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THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Rosh Hashanah 026: Comment on Insights Tuvyah asked: Regarding your comments on the daf (insights 26b, on Bitachon) - there are other examples of Avraham's behaviour which support the hishtadlus/bitachon combination - after all, he did "chofer be'erot" for his flocks; and even in the maaseh the gemara brings, Rabah bar bar Chana started out carrying his pack - that certainly seems like hishtadlus, he took the first steps, and HKBH did the rest - but he had to take those first steps... ------------------------------------ The Kollel replies: That's a good point. Perhaps the Gaon is only saying that it is permitted to leave everything to Hashem, not that it is required. (Since it is permitted to do so, it is obviously a Midas Chasidus to choose that path.) In addition, he may only be proscribing Hishtadlus that involves soliciting the help of other people (such as the Arab traveler). When it came to such matters, Avraham indeed said, "Im mi'Chut Ad Sroch Na'al (Bereishis 14:23). Be well, Mordecai Kornfeld >>><><><>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><<< The *D*AFYOMI *A*DVANCEMENT *F*ORUM, brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf Write to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit us at http://www.dafyomi.co.il Fax(US):(206) 202-0323; Fax(Isr): (02) 591-6024; Tel(Isr): (02) 651-5004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 1/2/2007 _______________________________________________ Daf-discuss mailing list Daf-discuss@shemayisrael.co.il http://mailman.shemayisrael.com/mailman/listinfo/daf-discuss_shemayisrael.co.il