Re: [datameet] Pincode boundary of NCR

[Suvajit Sengupta]

Hi Devdatta,

Thanks. No, not tried.
I got hold of a CSV file from our group thread.
Let me try this repo.
Thanks.

Regards,
Suvajit

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 9:54 AM Devdatta Tengshe 
wrote:

> Have you looked Justin's Repo:
> https://github.com/justinelliotmeyers/INDIA_PINCODES
>
>
> Regards,
> Devdatta
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 at 19:13, Suvajit Sengupta 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Group,
>>
>> I am looking for the pincode boundaries of Delhi & NCR region.
>> Do you have any reference for it ?
>>
>> I thought it will be in our datameet repo
>> https://github.com/datameet/PincodeBoundary , but Delhi is missing from
>> the list.
>>
>> Even the NIC POrtal link on http://postoffice.umd.nic.in:8080/nicutility/
>> is not working now.
>>
>> Any cue on this ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Suvajit
>>
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Re: [datameet] Pincode boundary of NCR

[Devdatta Tengshe]

Have you looked Justin's Repo:
https://github.com/justinelliotmeyers/INDIA_PINCODES


Regards,
Devdatta


On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 at 19:13, Suvajit Sengupta 
wrote:

> Hi Group,
>
> I am looking for the pincode boundaries of Delhi & NCR region.
> Do you have any reference for it ?
>
> I thought it will be in our datameet repo
> https://github.com/datameet/PincodeBoundary , but Delhi is missing from
> the list.
>
> Even the NIC POrtal link on http://postoffice.umd.nic.in:8080/nicutility/
> is not working now.
>
> Any cue on this ?
>
> Regards,
> Suvajit
>
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Re: [datameet] Are all public funded datasets open by default under GODL license?

[Nikhil VJ]

Hi, just for clarification, can anyone who knows abt it pls elaborate on
what is meant by "negative list" ?

I'm assuming right now that it means certain datasets that have to be
exempted from disclosure due to national security purposes. But if it's
different pls tell.

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On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 11:54 AM sreeram kandimalla <
kandimalla.sree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> NSDI/DST did say in the second RTI that the negative list they published
> as part of the new spatial guidelines is their negative list for NDSAP( if
> that helps ).
>
>
>
> On Sat, 29 Oct, 2022, 8:24 am Arun Ganesh,  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Sreeram for taking the effort to clarify this using RTI.
>>
>> Small props to the information officer for constructing new sentences for
>> each response instead of copy pasting the same one.
>>
>> My takeaway is that NDSAP implementation has stalled because there does
>> not seem to be a deadline for departments to create a negative list of
>> datasets. Which further means that one cannot assume GODL.
>>
>> With spatial data the new geospatial data regulations at least clarifies
>> the negative list. Knowing if we can use the SoI village boundaries
>> under GODL since its unrestricted might be a start and could set a
>> precedent for other SoI datasets. Would asking this through RTI be
>> effective?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:27 AM sreeram kandimalla <
>> kandimalla.sree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Also another RTI filed asking for the negative lists available with DST
>>> for NDSAP got me this response. I thought people here would be interested
>>> in knowing.
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-10-25 at 4.05.02 PM.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 6:44 PM sreeram kandimalla <
>>> kandimalla.sree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 So, I filed an RTI( my first ) regarding this with DST, which after
 being kicked around between DST and MeitY was rejected saying the questions
 weren't clear enough. So, I went around looking for more clear questions
 from people who actually had some clue of how to interpret these things and
 found this interesting discussion about the same question.  -
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:GODL-India#Can_the_user_site_assume_GODL%3F


 The discussion seemed dead without having ever reached a conclusion.
 But, there was some information there about what to ask for in an RTI and I
 filed another RTI with those questions, this time I sent it to both the
 departments and they promptly forwarded it to Ministry of Railways, which
 then pushed it back to DST. In the end I got a response from the 
 "e-Governance
 Group under MeitY"

 Here is the response I got -

 ---

 1) Is GODL valid if originally used outside of data.gov.in?

 Reply:GODL is a Gazette Notified document (
 https://data.gov.in/sites/default/files/Gazette_Notification_OGDL.pdf)
 and it does apply on the data sets published under NDSAP and through the
 OGD Platform.

 2) Is GODL valid for data formats outside Section 3.2 of Implementation
 Guidelines?

 Reply:Section 3.2 of NDSAP recommends that data has to publish on OGD
 platform in data formats prevalent in Government. The data formats outside
 the above said section are not allowed to be publish on OGD platform. The
 Government Open Data License (GODL) does apply on the data sets published
 under NDSAP and through the OGD Platform.

 3) Is section 3.2 of Implementation Guidelines actually being bypassed?

 Reply:Section 3.2 of NDSAP recommends that data has to publish on OGD
 platform in data formats prevalent in Government.

 4) Is Implementation Guidelines mandatory or best practice?

 Reply:The Implementation Guidelines for National Data Sharing and
 Accessibility Policy (NDSAP) details out recommendations and operational
 procedures for the purpose of implementation of NDSAP by government
 agencies.

 5) Is GODL assumable by re-users for any Govt work found outside the
 OGD platform?

 Reply: The Government Open Data License (GODL) does regulate the re-use
 of data sets published under NDSAP and through the OGD Platform.

 6) Are works found in Lok Sabha and other legislative/judicial sites
 assumable under GODL?

 Reply: The Government Open Data License (GODL) does apply on the data
 sets published under NDSAP and through the OGD Platform.

 


 I would like some opinion on the response to question no: 5.

 My interpretation is that the response means yes, you can assume GODL,
 if the work falls under NDSAP.  But, I feel like I am being stonewalled
 with grammar and someone parroting the GODL gazette.

 So, can someone with a better grasp of the English language and
 Officialese interpret this