Re: [datameet] Shape file of Ladakh (India)

[Devdatta Tengshe]

In that case, you can use the boundary as it exists in OSM.

One way to get it from OSM, is by using overpass turbo, while another
option would be to use   https://osm-boundaries.com/


Regards,
Devdatta Tengshe

On Wed, 6 Dec, 2023, 05:39 Dr Mahesh Gaur,  wrote:

> Thank you very much for your response.
> Yes, I have seen that one.
> It is complete Ladakh (including Pak & China occupied) whereas I am
> looking for that boundary (shp file) of Ladakh which is currently or
> actually held by India.
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>> Have you looked at this:  maps/States at master · datameet/maps
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>> Regards,
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Re: [datameet] Shape file of Ladakh (India)

[Dr Mahesh Gaur]

Thank you very much for your response.
Yes, I have seen that one.
It is complete Ladakh (including Pak & China occupied) whereas I am looking
for that boundary (shp file) of Ladakh which is currently or actually held
by India.
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On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 11:13 AM Devdatta Tengshe 
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> Have you looked at this:  maps/States at master · datameet/maps
> (github.com) 
>
>
> Regards,
> Devdatta
>
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> On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 at 20:13, Dr Mahesh Gaur 
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>> excludes China & Pak -occupied parts of Kashmir.
>> Thanks is advance for your cooperation.
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Re: [External Email] [datameet] Seeking Towns and Villages lat-long

[Dipendra Karn]

Anybody Kindly provide Bihar panchayat .shp file (after delimitation)

On Mon, 4 Dec 2023, 10:47 'Shiv Hastawala' via datameet, <
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> Hi Devdatta
>
> Thanks for stressing the license. Yes, please don't use SHRUG
> commercially. My assumption was that people's needs on this group would be
> non-commercial, but it never hurts to stress it. Thanks once again.
>
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 at 11:30 pm, Devdatta Tengshe 
> wrote:
>
>> Before using the dataset from SHRUG, please check out the license of the
>> data. AFAIK, you cannot use this dataset for Commercial use.
>>
>>
>> You could also look at this dataset from SOI: Survey Of India Open
>> Series Map Toponyms (kaggle.com)
>> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Devdatta
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 at 02:51, 'Shiv Hastawala' via datameet <
>> datameet@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ravi
>>>
>>> What you are looking for should be available in the folder titled *"13.
>>> OPEN POLYGONS AND SPATIAL STATISTICS"* from SHRUG 2.0 here:
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/it0dk1znotiap9w2zjz7l/h?rlkey=qjsueenrj7xrg2v9wsob5iyt5=0
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>>> Don't forget to match the Shrid IDs from the folder titled *"1. CORE
>>> KEYS"*.
>>>
>>> This data set was prepared by DevDataLab after years of work, and their
>>> work has been quite reliable (at least for economists) over the past few
>>> years. You can read more about them here: https://www.devdatalab.org/
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yours sincerely
>>>
>>> *Shiv Hastawala*
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 3:06 AM rc  wrote:
>>>
 Greetings everyone, I am in search of lat-long data or a point
 shapefile for towns and villages in India, preferably from a reliable or
 verified source.

 Ravi

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Re: [datameet] Creating variable names in Devanagari

[शरच्चंद्र लेले]

Ok, thanks, Nikhil. Let me see what works at our backend.

Sharad


On 05-Dec-23 16:51, Nikhil VJ wrote:

Hi Sharad,

If you have to import the data into a web-based backend, then your 
programmers will be most comfortable with: GeoJSON format.
Because : It's a simple text/json format which can even be opened as 
raw text, and so there are many different ways to load it in a program 
and use data from it.
And this will also support Devnagri columns (which become property 
keys here) same as geopackage.


Another thing to look out for: Ensure that the database being used by 
the backend has the same UTF-8 encoding set.


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Cheers,
Nikhil VJ
https://nikhilvj.co.in


On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 3:56 PM Sharad Lele > wrote:


Thanks, Ujaval. Yes saving as .geopkg works (saves the field names
in full and displays properly upon reopening). This is the only
solution that has worked so far.

But I am not sure this is going to work for us in this particular
situation where we are then using the file in postGIS to display
in a webGIS. Let me ask our webGIS person.

Sharad

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:10:18 PM UTC+5:30 Ujaval Gandhi
wrote:

Use the geopackage format. It's a much better modern format
without the limitations of shapefiles. The default encoding
would be UTF-8 and it should work. Tested with a new
geopackage layer and it is able to create column names and
values in Devanagri script https://i.imgur.com/2prELf6.png


---
Ujaval Gandhi
Spatial Thoughts
www.spatialthoughts.com





On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 2:36 PM Sharad Lele
 wrote:

The shapefile encoding is set to UTF-8.  But any edits to
variable names only last as long as I don't save the file.
Save and reopening results in going back to the same
truncated/funny display as above Screenshot Layer
properties.jpeg

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 2:17:41 PM UTC+5:30 Dilawar
Singh wrote:

I found this

https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/381308/how-to-change-qgis-3-default-encoding.


The file you are loading may have a different encoding
that QGIS3. You have to verify this manually and make
sure that QGIS3 and file encoding is the same.

I am guessing the while QGIS3 is using utf-8, the file
that you are loading may be utf-16 encoded. Not sure
if there are automated tools that can convert UTF-16
files to UTF8 file while preserving unicode

(https://superuser.com/questions/1786434/convert-utf-16-le-to-utf-8-in-windows-via-command-line).

best,
   Dilawar



 On Mon, 04 Dec 2023 14:05:01 +0530 *Sharad Lele
* wrote ---

Just to clarify/muddy the situation: I am able to
enter long Devanagari text in the District/Jila
column without any problems. It is the
column/field name itself that I run into problems,
which may have to do with the 8 characteri limit?

Screenshot QGIS devanagari field names.jpeg


On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:57:04 PM UTC+5:30
Sharad Lele wrote:

Thanks, Dilawar. The article was very
interesting/useful. But for a simpleton like
me, the question then is: How do I ensure that
QGIS3 in particular is using UTF-8 encoding
every time?

Sharad

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:31:28 PM
UTC+5:30 Dilawar Singh wrote:

The answer is not going to be simple.

Make sure that every time you save or open
the file, the application uses encoding
utf-8. Microsoft uses another weird
encoding called utf-16
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-16).
Stay away from utf-16 it if you want to
copy-paste anything from the web or
web-based tools.

Long answer:

Re: [datameet] Creating variable names in Devanagari

[Nikhil VJ]

Hi Sharad,

If you have to import the data into a web-based backend, then your
programmers will be most comfortable with: GeoJSON format.
Because : It's a simple text/json format which can even be opened as raw
text, and so there are many different ways to load it in a program and use
data from it.
And this will also support Devnagri columns (which become property keys
here) same as geopackage.

Another thing to look out for: Ensure that the database being used by the
backend has the same UTF-8 encoding set.

--
Cheers,
Nikhil VJ
https://nikhilvj.co.in


On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 3:56 PM Sharad Lele  wrote:

> Thanks, Ujaval. Yes saving as .geopkg works (saves the field names in full
> and displays properly upon reopening). This is the only solution that has
> worked so far.
>
> But I am not sure this is going to work for us in this particular
> situation where we are then using the file in postGIS to display in a
> webGIS. Let me ask our webGIS person.
>
> Sharad
>
> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:10:18 PM UTC+5:30 Ujaval Gandhi wrote:
>
>> Use the geopackage format. It's a much better modern format without the
>> limitations of shapefiles. The default encoding would be UTF-8 and it
>> should work. Tested with a new geopackage layer and it is able to create
>> column names and values in Devanagri script
>> https://i.imgur.com/2prELf6.png
>> 
>> ---
>> Ujaval Gandhi
>> Spatial Thoughts
>> www.spatialthoughts.com
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 2:36 PM Sharad Lele  wrote:
>>
>>> The shapefile encoding is set to UTF-8.  But any edits to variable names
>>> only last as long as I don't save the file. Save and reopening results in
>>> going back to the same truncated/funny display as above [image:
>>> Screenshot Layer properties.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 2:17:41 PM UTC+5:30 Dilawar Singh wrote:
>>>
 I found this
 https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/381308/how-to-change-qgis-3-default-encoding.


 The file you are loading may have a different encoding that QGIS3. You
 have to verify this manually and make sure that QGIS3 and file encoding is
 the same.

 I am guessing the while QGIS3 is using utf-8, the file that you are
 loading may be utf-16 encoded. Not sure if there are automated tools that
 can convert UTF-16 files to UTF8 file while preserving unicode (
 https://superuser.com/questions/1786434/convert-utf-16-le-to-utf-8-in-windows-via-command-line
 ).

 best,
Dilawar



  On Mon, 04 Dec 2023 14:05:01 +0530 *Sharad Lele
 * wrote ---

 Just to clarify/muddy the situation: I am able to enter long Devanagari
 text in the District/Jila column without any problems. It is the
 column/field name itself that I run into problems, which may have to do
 with the 8 characteri limit?

 [image: Screenshot QGIS devanagari field names.jpeg]


 On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:57:04 PM UTC+5:30 Sharad Lele wrote:

 Thanks, Dilawar. The article was very interesting/useful. But for a
 simpleton like me, the question then is: How do I ensure that QGIS3 in
 particular is using UTF-8 encoding every time?

 Sharad

 On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:31:28 PM UTC+5:30 Dilawar Singh wrote:

 The answer is not going to be simple.

 Make sure that every time you save or open the file, the application
 uses encoding utf-8. Microsoft uses another weird encoding called utf-16 (
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-16).  Stay away from utf-16 it if
 you want to copy-paste anything from the web or web-based tools.

 Long answer:
 https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2003/10/08/the-absolute-minimum-every-software-developer-absolutely-positively-must-know-about-unicode-and-character-sets-no-excuses/

 best,
Dilawar



  On Mon, 04 Dec 2023 13:24:28 +0530 *Sharad Lele
 * wrote ---


 Hi folks, I am using QGIS and I want to create variable names in
 Devanagari (for instance जिला instead of District). If I create a new
 column in the attribute table and enter the column name in Devanagari using
 Microsoft Indic Language Tool on my computer, it seems to work (जिला is
 shown as the column name). But the moment I save the edits and reopen the
 attribute table, this gets truncated into something like जिल?. The last
 character is not really a question mark, something more complex.

 Any suggestions for making the column names appear and save properly in
 Devanagari? (The same would be true for Kannada or other scripts, I am
 sure).

 Sharad


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