Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
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From: *Rudresh Kalyani* rudreshkaly...@gmail.com
Date: 6 March 2014 05:52
Subject: {blrtreeproject} Tree Documentation-Bannerughatta road
To: bangaloretreeproj...@googlegroups.com
Hi All,
WCG(Wildlife Conservation Group) is organizing Tree documentation work on
coming weekend. Please find the further details below
Agenda:
Documenting the trees of Bannerughatta road from Bannerughatta to Anekal
Programme description:
Avenue trees have provided unconditional shade and shelter not only to
fauna and avi-fauna but even human beings from time immemorial. We have
depended on these old pillars of our Nature who've existed for centuries.
Today we might not need them because we have air-conditioned environments
inside cities, but they continue to give so much to the living world around.
This is a unique invitation to members of our Natural society to
voluntarily contribute in understanding of the population and species of
these beautiful avenue trees in our neighborhood, in an area under-looked
by passing traffic and pollution; the trees need to be documented to make
ourselves realize that we indeed love and value them, and their presence
will not be forgotten.
How do we document:
GPS point with species name and detail
photographs
birds and insect diversity
planning to do short film on Trees.
Who can participate:
Students
Photographers
Tree Lovers
Environment enthusiasts conservationists
Taxonomy experts
Birders
Why we are documenting:
Its good to know our trees – they are our lifeline
Documentation will help to spread the love and value of trees to younger
generation.
Documentation will certainly help to preserve the existing trees
Who we are:
Wildlife Conservation Group [WCG]
A small group of people interested in environmental conservation.
When:
8th and 9th of March 2014 . Documentation begins from Bannerugatta Circle .
Time :8AM to 12 PM
Material you can bring:
Hat and water bottle
Meter tape 10-mt
Books on avenue trees
Bird book
Binocular
Camera
Registration is free
Contacts:
Subbu Badal https://www.facebook.com/subbu.badal : +91 9742786628
Shankara Kp https://www.facebook.com/shankara.kp :+91 7760517769
Ashwatha Kn https://www.facebook.com/ashwatha.kn: +91 9740919832
Mail :wcg@gmail.com
Thansk,
Rudresh
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On 14 January 2014 19:00, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Check if this open-source project from open-plans will help in data
collection
http://treekit.org/map/
https://github.com/openplans/treekit
Regards,
Srinivas
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote:
Hi,
Sorry for top-posting, but on my phone. I agree that ODK makes sense for
this. As mentioned earlier, we already have a platform, Fieldata, with a
web interface, where the data collection part is built on top of ODK. We
can offer this both free of cost as well as without restrictions on
extracting the data. Also would be glad to help out in setting up the
forms. Please let me know.
Regards,
Gora
On Jan 10, 2014 4:12 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote:
I have set up ODK at
https://openbangalore.appspot.com
Will try to map some tress on my street this weekend, I will keep you
guys updated.
Note: ODK seemed like the most easy and practical way to do it.
Thej
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote:
On 5 January 2014 13:34, rajesh sha...@gmail.com wrote:
I think its a great idea to map each tree, actually each sapling, but
go
beyond a simple count.
What is important when we hear stories like 50,000 trees were
planted is
to be able to followup and see if the survival rate was 1% or 0.01% or
0.0001%
If we map every tree we should see how long each tree lives, so we
can map
how many are being cut. If not, what is the growth and condition
(leaves
covered with dust). Is it concretized at the base or is there soil
and air.
Possibly a very depressing picture.
Lets not worry about productizing or revenue.
We have a mobile-based data collection platform, Fieldata
( http://www.fieldata.org ) that can be used for this, free of
cost at the basic tier which should suffice here. One builds
a form for the data collection, using our GUI form builder,
which contains all details necessary. The data can include
GPS locations, photos, etc. The form is downloaded to an
application on an Android phone, based on OpenDataKit,
and anyone with access can submit data. We would also be
glad to help in
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
Thanks a lot Shree. I will get in touch with them.
Just to update the group. I did a small POC recently to see if
its achievable. I think its quite possible even-though a little difficult.
I posted the results on my blog a few minutes back.
http://thejeshgn.com/2014/03/06/bangalore-tree-survey-poc-results/ I am
pasting the content here for easy access. Please do reply, specially
regarding the questions
http://thejeshgn.com/?author=1Bangalore Tree Survey – POC
Resultshttp://thejeshgn.com/2014/03/06/bangalore-tree-survey-poc-results/
by Thejesh GN http://thejeshgn.com/?author=1
Bangalore, once upon a time called Garden city, still has quite a bit of
green cover. Almost every week we read a story about cutting down trees for
some reason. But nobody knows the details, including the people who write
those articles. I thought it would be great if you had a baseline survey of
trees, which can be used for comparing, or many other stories and studies.
But imagine mapping every public tree (tress in public areas like road,
parks etc) in Bangalore. It will probably take years if I start doing it
alone. But then there wa no way to find out other than trying it out.
So I asked
DataMeethttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/datameet/Yi75C8sTZps
as
usual. I figured that a PoC by me would be a great place to begin. Hence I
installed ODK on my phone and ODK
aggregatorhttps://openbangalore.appspot.com/ on
server to collect the survey data. That was easier than I thought. Then this
monday I walked around for 15
minuteshttp://runkeeper.com/user/thej/activity/312721051?tripIdBase36=566p3v
to
survey the trees, in an area which has lots of trees. I mapped around 18
tress in 15 minutes by walking half a kilometer. Some screen shots from the
apps
[image:
treesurvey_poc1]https://thejeshgn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/treesurvey_poc1.png
[image:
treesurvey_poc3]https://thejeshgn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/treesurvey_poc3.png
[image:
treesurvey_poc4]https://thejeshgn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/treesurvey_poc4.png
[image:
treesurvey_poc2]https://thejeshgn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/treesurvey_poc2.png
Some issues that I faced
1. GPS logging is not very accurate. It has 4 to 8 meters of error, how do
we fix it?
2. Roughly every tree takes 2 minutes, take a picture of tree, take a
picture of leaves/fruits/flowers, geo tag. How long will it take for whole
Bangalore. It has to be done by foot right?
3. Quality of pictures, depends on the time of day, camera quality, how big
the tree is and patience
Some ideas, learning and questions
1. ODC is easy to use, works really well, even offline
2. Crowd source: Can we crowd source this project? We can have mapping
parties. People just need mobile (no internet) and time. Once they finish
the survey, they can either come to the camp or go home to sync the data
3. We can use maps (gis) to assign the roads, areas to groups. Check the
progress and coverage. This will help in organizing
4. Can we finish this in years time? What about delta after that?
5. What else can we do?
6. What kind of data do we collect live? For example Tree name can be
figure later.
Thej
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Shree D N shre...@oorvani.in wrote:
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From: *Rudresh Kalyani* rudreshkaly...@gmail.com
Date: 6 March 2014 05:52
Subject: {blrtreeproject} Tree Documentation-Bannerughatta road
To: bangaloretreeproj...@googlegroups.com
Hi All,
WCG(Wildlife Conservation Group) is organizing Tree documentation work on
coming weekend. Please find the further details below
Agenda:
Documenting the trees of Bannerughatta road from Bannerughatta to Anekal
Programme description:
Avenue trees have provided unconditional shade and shelter not only to
fauna and avi-fauna but even human beings from time immemorial. We have
depended on these old pillars of our Nature who've existed for centuries.
Today we might not need them because we have air-conditioned environments
inside cities, but they continue to give so much to the living world around.
This is a unique invitation to members of our Natural society to
voluntarily contribute in understanding of the population and species of
these beautiful avenue trees in our neighborhood, in an area under-looked
by passing traffic and pollution; the trees need to be documented to make
ourselves realize that we indeed love and value them, and their presence
will not be forgotten.
How do we document:
GPS point with species name and detail
photographs
birds and insect diversity
planning to do short film on Trees.
Who can participate:
Students
Photographers
Tree Lovers
Environment enthusiasts conservationists
Taxonomy experts
Birders
Why we are documenting:
Its good to know our trees – they are our lifeline
Documentation will help to spread the love and value of trees to younger
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
On 6 March 2014 14:31, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Thanks a lot Shree. I will get in touch with them. Just to update the group. I did a small POC recently to see if its achievable. I think its quite possible even-though a little difficult. [...] Yes, ODK is great. Some issues that I faced 1. GPS logging is not very accurate. It has 4 to 8 meters of error, how do we fix it? 4-8m is optimistic, and assumes quite some time spent to get a proper GPS fix. Given the quality of the GPS in most phones, a RMS error of 20m is more realistic. The only way to improve that is to take a large number of readings, and average over these, but this cannot be done with ODK out of the box. As the error in the mean decreases as the square root of the number of observations, one needs 25 readings to get from 20m to 4m, and 400 to get to 1m. However, if the aim is to identify the general locality, the default GPS accuracy should be fine. Regards, Gora -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
what about paper mapping? On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On 6 March 2014 14:31, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Thanks a lot Shree. I will get in touch with them. Just to update the group. I did a small POC recently to see if its achievable. I think its quite possible even-though a little difficult. [...] Yes, ODK is great. Some issues that I faced 1. GPS logging is not very accurate. It has 4 to 8 meters of error, how do we fix it? 4-8m is optimistic, and assumes quite some time spent to get a proper GPS fix. Given the quality of the GPS in most phones, a RMS error of 20m is more realistic. The only way to improve that is to take a large number of readings, and average over these, but this cannot be done with ODK out of the box. As the error in the mean decreases as the square root of the number of observations, one needs 25 readings to get from 20m to 4m, and 400 to get to 1m. However, if the aim is to identify the general locality, the default GPS accuracy should be fine. Regards, Gora -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
Hi, Sorry for top-posting, but on my phone. I agree that ODK makes sense for this. As mentioned earlier, we already have a platform, Fieldata, with a web interface, where the data collection part is built on top of ODK. We can offer this both free of cost as well as without restrictions on extracting the data. Also would be glad to help out in setting up the forms. Please let me know. Regards, Gora On Jan 10, 2014 4:12 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: I have set up ODK at https://openbangalore.appspot.com Will try to map some tress on my street this weekend, I will keep you guys updated. Note: ODK seemed like the most easy and practical way to do it. Thej -- Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On 5 January 2014 13:34, rajesh sha...@gmail.com wrote: I think its a great idea to map each tree, actually each sapling, but go beyond a simple count. What is important when we hear stories like 50,000 trees were planted is to be able to followup and see if the survival rate was 1% or 0.01% or 0.0001% If we map every tree we should see how long each tree lives, so we can map how many are being cut. If not, what is the growth and condition (leaves covered with dust). Is it concretized at the base or is there soil and air. Possibly a very depressing picture. Lets not worry about productizing or revenue. We have a mobile-based data collection platform, Fieldata ( http://www.fieldata.org ) that can be used for this, free of cost at the basic tier which should suffice here. One builds a form for the data collection, using our GUI form builder, which contains all details necessary. The data can include GPS locations, photos, etc. The form is downloaded to an application on an Android phone, based on OpenDataKit, and anyone with access can submit data. We would also be glad to help in building the form. To get a quick picture of the facilities available on Fieldata, log in to a demo account from the top right of the home page: User/password = gora+fossdo...@mimirtech.com/foss.in123 On the dashboard that you arrive at, choose the Demo questionnaire, and you can have various views of the data from under the Reports Data drop-down towards the top. Data can be exported as CSV. Regards, Gora -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
Great idea. I think you should talk to CCF of BBMP Brijeshkumar with this idea. They wanted to do some survey, then I think they felt it's impossible with the 20 people they have. he might have some ideas and some data too. On 4 Jan 2014 20:33, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Do you know of any tree survey that has been done in bangalore? That which has geo tags etc. -- Thejesh GN | ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
I do know that Harini Nagendra of ATREE has done some. Here are some of her publications: http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Harini_Nagendra/publications/ She might be willing to share the data. Cheers, On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Do you know of any tree survey that has been done in bangalore? That which has geo tags etc. -- Thejesh GN | ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
I had started www.mapatree.org 4 years back; but it died down slowly. It got traction mainly from some overseas guys. You can find a minimal app still running here with loads of enhancements in the TODO which never got done : http://mapatree.appspot.com/ -V @venkasub http://about.me/venkasub On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Do you know of any tree survey that has been done in bangalore? That which has geo tags etc. -- Thejesh GN | ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
Do you guys its too much to map every tree (trees on footpath, parks n other areas can be handled seaparately) in bangalore by crowd sourcing it. I am sure it will be a great source for all kinds of research. Do you think we can cover some significant area in an years time? We can probably do weekend mapathon in particular areas or roads. -- Thejesh GN | ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Jan 4, 2014 9:37 PM, Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com wrote: I had started www.mapatree.org 4 years back; but it died down slowly. It got traction mainly from some overseas guys. You can find a minimal app still running here with loads of enhancements in the TODO which never got done : http://mapatree.appspot.com/ -V @venkasub http://about.me/venkasub On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Do you know of any tree survey that has been done in bangalore? That which has geo tags etc. -- Thejesh GN | ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
- And what would be the end result? - Even if you were to ask for sponsorships, then what would be the rationale? - Assuming, and just assuming, you want to monetize this, so that the money could be used for surrounding activities, then how would you do productize this? These are some of the many questions that can be thought about - as almost anything could be mapped using OSM and many interesting hacks could be done on top of it. -V On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Do you guys its too much to map every tree (trees on footpath, parks n other areas can be handled seaparately) in bangalore by crowd sourcing it. I am sure it will be a great source for all kinds of research. Do you think we can cover some significant area in an years time? We can probably do weekend mapathon in particular areas or roads. -- Thejesh GN | ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Jan 4, 2014 9:37 PM, Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com wrote: I had started www.mapatree.org 4 years back; but it died down slowly. It got traction mainly from some overseas guys. You can find a minimal app still running here with loads of enhancements in the TODO which never got done : http://mapatree.appspot.com/ -V @venkasub http://about.me/venkasub On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Do you know of any tree survey that has been done in bangalore? That which has geo tags etc. -- Thejesh GN | ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
We had setup a prototype too to be used for Pune: Demo: http://treemapper.in/ Repo: https://github.com/webnotes/treemapper Was never used. best, Rushabh On Saturday, January 4, 2014 9:37:21 PM UTC+5:30, Venkatraman.S. wrote: I had started www.mapatree.org 4 years back; but it died down slowly. It got traction mainly from some overseas guys. You can find a minimal app still running here with loads of enhancements in the TODO which never got done : http://mapatree.appspot.com/ -V @venkasub http://about.me/venkasub -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Tree survey in bangalore
There is a Bangalore Tree Festival happening on Feb 8th and 9th (see neralu.in). If you'd like to do a mini-census around that, it may be a good idea. Let's discuss the feasibility offline. Regds, Meera *~ Oorvani Foundation http://oorvani.org.in: Community-funded media for the new India ~* On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:19 AM, rushabh rme...@gmail.com wrote: We had setup a prototype too to be used for Pune: Demo: http://treemapper.in/ Repo: https://github.com/webnotes/treemapper Was never used. best, Rushabh On Saturday, January 4, 2014 9:37:21 PM UTC+5:30, Venkatraman.S. wrote: I had started www.mapatree.org 4 years back; but it died down slowly. It got traction mainly from some overseas guys. You can find a minimal app still running here with loads of enhancements in the TODO which never got done : http://mapatree.appspot.com/ -V @venkasub http://about.me/venkasub -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
