Re: [datameet] story plug - How many athletics medals will India win at the Asian Games?

2018-08-30 Thread Shijith Kunhitty
Ha ha, no I definitely got my forecast of athletics medals wrong! But have 
a feeling all these athletics medals have come about less because of Indian 
athletes overperforming and more because of other Asian athletes 
underperforming (Neeraj Chopra being an exception). Will see if I can do a 
follow-story in the Hindustan Times on this. And thanks for all the 
feedback! :) -shijith

On Friday, 31 August 2018 08:47:49 UTC+5:30, Nikhil VJ wrote:
>
> Hi Shijith,
>
> Good analysis of the historical trend. It gives a valuable benchmark of 
> what the status quo is and where the country as a collective needs to 
> compete with its former self.
>
> After the games conclude it would be great to update the dataset and run 
> the same analysis again and see where the biggest changes in trend have 
> happened, plus a scorecard of how India fared this year as measured against 
> herself. 
>
> Later it would also be good to trace back to the causes behind sudden 
> trend changes : have there been any significant changes in the coaching 
> style? Recruiting mechanism? Renumerations? Management changes? This goes 
> for both positive as well as negative differences.
>
> Quick google search on current medals tally says:
> 13 Gold
> 21 Silver
> 25 Bronze
> One suggestion in terms of choice of words: instead of calling it as 
> prediction for coming year, call it as current benchmark/trend. They are 
> technically the same things, but impression in readers mind is different. 
> One leaves the agency for change in the stakeholder's hand whereas the 
> other makes it sound more like fate. Data is valuable both in predicting 
> the future and in changing it. Also, one of the approaches won't attract 
> rude comments in the comments stream (supposing this was being published by 
> a news platform where readers can post comments) later on, in the off 
> chance that the forecast got beat :D
>
>
> Cheers,
> Nikhil VJ
> Pune
>
> On Saturday, August 25, 2018, Shijith Kunhitty  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Akash, appreciate the kind words! :) 
>>
>> On Saturday, 25 August 2018 01:44:34 UTC+5:30, AKASH MALIK wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Shijith,
>>> This is a very interesting study, really loved it.
>>> *Dr. Akash Malik*
>>> National Manager- Health System Strengthening
>>> United Nations Development Programme
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 9:14 AM Shijith Kunhitty  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone, just sending a link to a data story I did on the Asian 
 Games.

 The athletics events at this year's Asian Games are starting this 
 Saturday. In the story I try to guess how many athletics medals India 
 could 
 win at the Asian Games using past data. Chances are we could win fewer 
 than 
 we did in 2014.

 Here's the link to the story: 
 https://shijithpk.github.io/asian_games_athletics/index.html .

 Parts of the story were earlier published in the Hindustan Times, just 
 putting it all in one place so it's easier to read.

 Used data from IAAF.org for the story as well as IAAF's scoring tables 
 .

 The python code used to scrape and analyse the data is available in the 
 github repo here: https://github.com/shijithpk/asian_games_athletics .

 If anyone has any questions or feedback, do let me know! -thanks, 
 shijith

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Re: [datameet] story plug - How many athletics medals will India win at the Asian Games?

2018-08-30 Thread Nikhil VJ
Hi Shijith,

Good analysis of the historical trend. It gives a valuable benchmark of
what the status quo is and where the country as a collective needs to
compete with its former self.

After the games conclude it would be great to update the dataset and run
the same analysis again and see where the biggest changes in trend have
happened, plus a scorecard of how India fared this year as measured against
herself.

Later it would also be good to trace back to the causes behind sudden trend
changes : have there been any significant changes in the coaching style?
Recruiting mechanism? Renumerations? Management changes? This goes for both
positive as well as negative differences.

Quick google search on current medals tally says:
13 Gold
21 Silver
25 Bronze
One suggestion in terms of choice of words: instead of calling it as
prediction for coming year, call it as current benchmark/trend. They are
technically the same things, but impression in readers mind is different.
One leaves the agency for change in the stakeholder's hand whereas the
other makes it sound more like fate. Data is valuable both in predicting
the future and in changing it. Also, one of the approaches won't attract
rude comments in the comments stream (supposing this was being published by
a news platform where readers can post comments) later on, in the off
chance that the forecast got beat :D


Cheers,
Nikhil VJ
Pune

On Saturday, August 25, 2018, Shijith Kunhitty  wrote:

> Thanks Akash, appreciate the kind words! :)
>
> On Saturday, 25 August 2018 01:44:34 UTC+5:30, AKASH MALIK wrote:
>>
>> Dear Shijith,
>> This is a very interesting study, really loved it.
>> *Dr. Akash Malik*
>> National Manager- Health System Strengthening
>> United Nations Development Programme
>> 55,Lodhi Estate
>> New Delhi-110003
>> Mob: 91-9599088267/+91-9953419276
>>
>> *The three great essentials to achieve anything worth while are: Hard
>> work, Stick-to-itiveness, and Common sense.**Please consider the
>> environment before printing this email.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 9:14 AM Shijith Kunhitty 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone, just sending a link to a data story I did on the Asian
>>> Games.
>>>
>>> The athletics events at this year's Asian Games are starting this
>>> Saturday. In the story I try to guess how many athletics medals India could
>>> win at the Asian Games using past data. Chances are we could win fewer than
>>> we did in 2014.
>>>
>>> Here's the link to the story: https://shijithpk.github.io/as
>>> ian_games_athletics/index.html .
>>>
>>> Parts of the story were earlier published in the Hindustan Times, just
>>> putting it all in one place so it's easier to read.
>>>
>>> Used data from IAAF.org for the story as well as IAAF's scoring tables
>>> .
>>>
>>> The python code used to scrape and analyse the data is available in the
>>> github repo here: https://github.com/shijithpk/asian_games_athletics .
>>>
>>> If anyone has any questions or feedback, do let me know! -thanks, shijith
>>>
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Re: [datameet] story plug - How many athletics medals will India win at the Asian Games?

2018-08-25 Thread Shijith Kunhitty
Thanks Akash, appreciate the kind words! :) 

On Saturday, 25 August 2018 01:44:34 UTC+5:30, AKASH MALIK wrote:
>
> Dear Shijith,
> This is a very interesting study, really loved it.
> *Dr. Akash Malik*
> National Manager- Health System Strengthening
> United Nations Development Programme
> 55,Lodhi Estate
> New Delhi-110003
> Mob: 91-9599088267/+91-9953419276
>
> *The three great essentials to achieve anything worth while are: Hard 
> work, Stick-to-itiveness, and Common sense.**Please consider the 
> environment before printing this email.*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 9:14 AM Shijith Kunhitty  > wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, just sending a link to a data story I did on the Asian Games.
>>
>> The athletics events at this year's Asian Games are starting this 
>> Saturday. In the story I try to guess how many athletics medals India could 
>> win at the Asian Games using past data. Chances are we could win fewer than 
>> we did in 2014.
>>
>> Here's the link to the story: 
>> https://shijithpk.github.io/asian_games_athletics/index.html .
>>
>> Parts of the story were earlier published in the Hindustan Times, just 
>> putting it all in one place so it's easier to read.
>>
>> Used data from IAAF.org for the story as well as IAAF's scoring tables 
>> .
>>
>> The python code used to scrape and analyse the data is available in the 
>> github repo here: https://github.com/shijithpk/asian_games_athletics .
>>
>> If anyone has any questions or feedback, do let me know! -thanks, shijith
>>
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Re: [datameet] story plug - How many athletics medals will India win at the Asian Games?

2018-08-24 Thread AKASH MALIK
Dear Shijith,
This is a very interesting study, really loved it.
*Dr. Akash Malik*
National Manager- Health System Strengthening
United Nations Development Programme
55,Lodhi Estate
New Delhi-110003
Mob: 91-9599088267/+91-9953419276

*The three great essentials to achieve anything worth while are: Hard work,
Stick-to-itiveness, and Common sense.**Please consider the environment
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 9:14 AM Shijith Kunhitty 
wrote:

> Hi everyone, just sending a link to a data story I did on the Asian Games.
>
> The athletics events at this year's Asian Games are starting this
> Saturday. In the story I try to guess how many athletics medals India could
> win at the Asian Games using past data. Chances are we could win fewer than
> we did in 2014.
>
> Here's the link to the story:
> https://shijithpk.github.io/asian_games_athletics/index.html .
>
> Parts of the story were earlier published in the Hindustan Times, just
> putting it all in one place so it's easier to read.
>
> Used data from IAAF.org for the story as well as IAAF's scoring tables
> .
>
> The python code used to scrape and analyse the data is available in the
> github repo here: https://github.com/shijithpk/asian_games_athletics .
>
> If anyone has any questions or feedback, do let me know! -thanks, shijith
>
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