Re: Perl 6 and DBI

2015-02-06 Thread Tim Bunce
On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 12:23:40AM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
 
 As you may have heard, Larry Wall gave a speech recently declaring 
 the goal of releasing Perl 6 this year, 2015. Honestly, there 
 is little chance of me using Perl 6 until it has a good, working 
 DBI. Anyone know the state of things with DBI and Perl6? Is the 
 goal still to implement what is basically DBI v2, or perhaps 
 someone is working on a simple port of the existing DBI? Is 
 a working DBI even on their list of blocker features for a release?

On MoarVM the perl5 DBI can be accessed via the Inline::Perl5 module.
That probably counts as a reasonable working DBI :)

Back in 2007 I said this:
http://www.slideshare.net/Tim.Bunce/dbi-for-parrot-and-perl-6-lightning-talk-2007

Then in 2010 I said this:
http://www.slideshare.net/Tim.Bunce/perl6-dbdi-yapceu-201008

I still think that's the right way to go, for all the reasons expressed
in the slides.

What's missing is a team of people with the right skill willing to work
on it.  I've had little time to do more than the tinkering I've already
done and I'm severely hampered by knowing ~zero perl6 or Java.

Volunteers are most welcome to express interest on the dbi-dev mailing list.

Tim.


Re: Perl 6 and DBI

2015-02-06 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane

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Tim Bunce said:
 On MoarVM the perl5 DBI can be accessed via the Inline::Perl5 module.
 That probably counts as a reasonable working DBI :)

Meh. More like working in a pinch via a hack but also 
says completely unsupported :(

 What's missing is a team of people with the right skill willing to work
 on it.  I've had little time to do more than the tinkering I've already
 done and I'm severely hampered by knowing ~zero perl6 or Java.

Thanks for the answer. Sadly, what I am reading between the lines here 
is that DBI is not even on the radar for anyone working on Perl 6, much 
less being a blocker. FWIW, I'm also in the zero perl6 boat.

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Re: Perl 6 and DBI

2015-02-06 Thread David Nicol
Perl 6 may need its own Tim Bunce, rather than somehow pressing the
original into service.



On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Greg Sabino Mullane g...@turnstep.com
wrote:


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 Tim Bunce said:
  On MoarVM the perl5 DBI can be accessed via the Inline::Perl5 module.
  That probably counts as a reasonable working DBI :)

 Meh. More like working in a pinch via a hack but also
 says completely unsupported :(

  What's missing is a team of people with the right skill willing to work
  on it.  I've had little time to do more than the tinkering I've already
  done and I'm severely hampered by knowing ~zero perl6 or Java.

 Thanks for the answer. Sadly, what I am reading between the lines here
 is that DBI is not even on the radar for anyone working on Perl 6, much
 less being a blocker. FWIW, I'm also in the zero perl6 boat.

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