The meaning of Subject (and Coverage)

2012-02-24 Thread Thomas Baker
Dear all,

Since 2006, the usage comment for the definition of dc:subject (and since
2008, dcterms:subject) has included the following sentence [1,2,3]:

To describe the spatial or temporal topic of the resource, use the Coverage
element.

The intent was to provide guidance on when to use Coverage:

The spatial or temporal topic of the resource... [5]

and when to use Subject, which had a clearly overlapping definition:

The topic of the resource. [6]

I recently had a chat about this with Gordon, who points out -- and I'll 
let him elaborate -- that current notions of subject (aboutness) do not
treat spatial or temporal topics separately from any other topics.

In my reading of meeting notes and decision documents from the time (see
Background below), the addition of the sentence quoted above to the Comment
for Subject was not intended as a clarification of the formal definition of
Subject, but rather as guidance about which element to use at a time when
people commonly wanted to use the fifteen elements in non-overlapping ways.

If this usage guideline is now unhelpful, should it be removed (after due
process of course)?

Tom


--
Background

The sentence from the Comment for Subject, quoted above, was added at the time
the definition of Coverage was changed from:
   
The extent or scope of the content of the resource. [4]

to:

The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability
of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is
relevant. [5]

as explained in [3].  This brought the definition of Coverage very close to the
definition of Subject:

The topic of the resource. [6]

At the time, it was widely felt that Dublin Core elements should not overlap in
meaning; indeed, it was not until 2008 that Creator was declared to be a
subproperty of Contributor [7].  As near as I can tell, then, the sentence
quoted above was added to the usage comment for Subject in an effort to provide
guidance to users about which element to use in a case where two definitions
clearly overlapped.

[1] http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#subject
[2] http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#terms-subject
[3] http://dublincore.org/usage/decisions/2006/2006-03.dcmes-changes.shtml
[4] http://dublincore.org/documents/2006/08/28/dcmi-terms/#coverage
[5] http://dublincore.org/documents/2006/12/18/dcmi-terms/#coverage
[6] http://dublincore.org/documents/2006/12/18/dcmi-terms/#subject
[7] http://dublincore.org/usage/decisions/2008/dcterms-changes/#sect-3

-- 
Tom Baker t...@tombaker.org


Re: The meaning of Subject (and Coverage)

2012-02-24 Thread Dan Brickley
On 24 February 2012 22:20, Thomas Baker t...@tombaker.org wrote:
 Dear all,

 Since 2006, the usage comment for the definition of dc:subject (and since
 2008, dcterms:subject) has included the following sentence [1,2,3]:

    To describe the spatial or temporal topic of the resource, use the Coverage
    element.

 The intent was to provide guidance on when to use Coverage:

    The spatial or temporal topic of the resource... [5]

 and when to use Subject, which had a clearly overlapping definition:

    The topic of the resource. [6]

 I recently had a chat about this with Gordon, who points out -- and I'll
 let him elaborate -- that current notions of subject (aboutness) do not
 treat spatial or temporal topics separately from any other topics.

 In my reading of meeting notes and decision documents from the time (see
 Background below), the addition of the sentence quoted above to the Comment
 for Subject was not intended as a clarification of the formal definition of
 Subject, but rather as guidance about which element to use at a time when
 people commonly wanted to use the fifteen elements in non-overlapping ways.

 If this usage guideline is now unhelpful, should it be removed (after due
 process of course)?

Is this a bit like the relationship between 'creator', 'publisher' and
the more general/vague 'contributor'?

Dan

 Tom


 --
 Background

 The sentence from the Comment for Subject, quoted above, was added at the time
 the definition of Coverage was changed from:

    The extent or scope of the content of the resource. [4]

 to:

    The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability
    of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is
    relevant. [5]

 as explained in [3].  This brought the definition of Coverage very close to 
 the
 definition of Subject:

    The topic of the resource. [6]

 At the time, it was widely felt that Dublin Core elements should not overlap 
 in
 meaning; indeed, it was not until 2008 that Creator was declared to be a
 subproperty of Contributor [7].  As near as I can tell, then, the sentence
 quoted above was added to the usage comment for Subject in an effort to 
 provide
 guidance to users about which element to use in a case where two definitions
 clearly overlapped.

 [1] http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#subject
 [2] http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#terms-subject
 [3] http://dublincore.org/usage/decisions/2006/2006-03.dcmes-changes.shtml
 [4] http://dublincore.org/documents/2006/08/28/dcmi-terms/#coverage
 [5] http://dublincore.org/documents/2006/12/18/dcmi-terms/#coverage
 [6] http://dublincore.org/documents/2006/12/18/dcmi-terms/#subject
 [7] http://dublincore.org/usage/decisions/2008/dcterms-changes/#sect-3

 --
 Tom Baker t...@tombaker.org


Re: The meaning of Subject (and Coverage)

2012-02-24 Thread Simon Spero
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Baker t...@tombaker.org wrote:

 I recently had a chat about this with Gordon, who points out -- and
I'll let him elaborate -- that current notions of subject (aboutness) do
not
 treat spatial or temporal topics separately from any other topics.

I am not sure that this is entirely correct, at least in the case of the
semantics of LCSH. It is possible for a concept intentionally referring to
a 4-space region to be the main subject of a work- for example a film about
France.

However, in other cases a topical or other concept may be sub-divided so as
to cover a narrower portion of the concept occurring within or relating to
a 4-space region. For example, a documentary  about 20th century french
films.

The full semantics are somewhat more complicated, due to the syntactic
structure of subdivided headings, which does not reduce to a eufaceted
structure.

Simon

[LCSH is strictly speaking 3d+1, but it's easier to think of it in 4d terms
if one wants to also address FAST]