Re: supposed Alembic studio 68 rehearsal with T.C.

2012-04-20 Thread John F. Whitehead
I was about to say that I thought it was Pigpen after all... Now I'm not quite 
sure, but there still are some interesting things here.

What evidence do we have that it's not Pigpen? Just that Jerry sings Lovelight? 
There could be other reasons for that (Pig's mic isn't set up yet, or he 
doesn't want to sing, or Jerry's just fooling around). (At the end of it, 
someone says with humor, Get the f*** off there! and someone else says Get 
offa there!)

I am not sure why you call it an electric piano, Jim -- sure sounds like an 
organ to me.

I sort of agree with Jim  Caleb that it doesn't sound like T.C I think 
even more that it sounds like Pigpen, or someone trying to imitate him closely. 
Listen to other 1968 recordings of Dark Star, Stephen, and yes, Lovelight.
- Dark Star has the same repeated 8 note riff Pigpen plays for the entire song. 
Would any other keyboardist do that?
- Lovelight sounds a bit like Pigpen's style and phrasing, but we don't really 
often get to hear him play at all since when he's the one singing he usually 
lays back on the organ.
- The first takes of Stephen on this tape have the organ playing very 
tentatively (like during the lady finger portion), but the last takes are 
quite similar to the way things ended up by the time they were performing 
Stephen at the Shrine in August.

I agree with Caleb it's not from May/June. At that point Stephen had a 
different structure and wasn't paired with the Eleven. By the time we got to 
the August shows at the Shrine, Stephen/Eleven was a more polished combination 
not dissimilar to the final versions on this recording. 

There is a long gap of (documented) performances between June and August. This 
would have been a good time for them to stay at home and rehearse new material. 
Perhaps this was a gap in touring created intentionally for this purpose, or 
maybe they were just opportunistic. But these were apparently fairly important 
rehearsals for them to go to the trouble of making a high quality recording mix 
(and preserving the results) instead of just throwing up a single ambient mic. 
And I think it's distinctive from the other '68 jams with guests: they are 
obviously working out the structure of the Stephen/Eleven transition and not 
just jamming.

So I think the evidence points to this tape in the July, possibly early August, 
time frame.

The first part of Lovelight is not on the recording. Apparently it was the 
first song (you can hear the engineers bringing the instruments up in the mix 
while the song is already pretty far along).

After Lovelight, Weir (?) says That's the basic concept... and someone 
(Lesh?) says ...faster and faster. After some unintelligible words, as Jerry 
continues to vamp Lovelight, someone yells Hey, did you record any of that? 
(someone responds off-mic) (some unintelligible stuff) then, How much of it? 
Did you start the [unintelligible-wish I could understand] ]. Soon after you 
hear them teaching the beginning of Dark Star (B minor seventh).

In one of the Stephen takes, just after what another man spills, Weir shouts 
out, you're invited to sing along on that one

Could they maybe teaching Pigpen?

I'm not 100% sure it is Pigpen, but it does seem a little odd to me that they'd 
be combining a new member rehearsal or audition with the musical composition 
they're doing in Stephen/Eleven.


-jfw


Re: supposed Alembic studio 68 rehearsal with T.C.

2012-04-20 Thread Corry Arnold
As  a footnote to this very interesting discussion, I should point out
that regardless of when in 1968 this rehearsal took place, there
wasn't really an Alembic Studios. Now, its possible that the band was
calling their rehearsal hall Alembic Studios, but the enterprise known
on the backs of albums as 'Alembic Studios' did not open until 1971.
Alembic took over Pacific High Recorders at 60 Brady St in San
Francisco and re-named it Alembic Studios. In 1968, I don't think
there was an 'Alembic' entity except perhaps in Owsley's mind.