Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-11-14 Thread Jude DaShiell
The super key is the windows start key.



Jude 
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2022, Jason White wrote:

>
> On 30/10/22 05:03, Egon wrote:
> > I installed the Mate desktop environment.
> > Orca did not start automatically but the console-based speaking software
> > did.
> >
> > How can I install the system to avoid these problems?
> In a properly installed system, pressing Alt-Super-S at the log-in dialogue
> should start Orca.
>
>



Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-11-14 Thread Egon
Hi All,
Thank you.

What can I do when the kernel in Debian stable (even with non-free
firmware-supported net-install image) not support the integrated Wi-Fi
card of my notebook?
How can be easy to create net-install media with pached-kernel to support it?
The Wi-Fi card name is: MediaTek MT7921

Best regards: Egon



installing debian with speech, debian testing can not get passed scanning installation media

2022-11-14 Thread Jordan Livesey
hello fellow debian fans, is it just my computer or is anyone
experiencing the same thing. due to how new my system is I have to use
testing as stable does not work with my hardware regardless of if I use non
free. heres the problem, I download the latest snapshot,  the last I tested
was october, and the testing snapshots get updated once a week, basically
what happens is you select a language and keyboard then wait for the
network dialogue, when it says scanning installation media, it gets stuck
and speech stops working, not sure if this has been fixed, but this doesn't
happen when installing the bookworm alpha images, but I would still like to
be tracking testing once bookworm becomes stable


Re: [BRLTTY] brltty failing to load in initramfs started before systemd-udev-settle.service

2022-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 14 nov. 2022 09:13:28 +0100, a ecrit:
> 2. As suggested by Samuel privately, it may be suitable to have the
> support for embedding BRLTTY in initramfs upstreamed so that this
> feature becomes available in all distributions, especially in the
> context of being able to encrypt ones hard drive.

The scripts used in Debian are here:
https://salsa.debian.org/a11y-team/brltty/-/tree/master/debian/initramfs

some bits are debian-specific (e.g. multiarch path), but most of it
should be generic enough.

Samuel



Re: Debian and Orca installation Question

2022-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Egon, le sam. 29 oct. 2022 20:46:21 +0200, a ecrit:
> 2022-10-29 20:07 GMT+02:00, Jordan Livesey :
> > just use the netinstall iso files, they give you a minimal mate desktop
> > with gimp and libreoffice but everything else you are free to use and
> > customise in turms of what else you want, plus, orca comes as standard, if
> > your pc requires non free firmware, go grab one of those images
> >
> It is a notebook PC without RJ45 port and I have fear that I unable to
> set Wi-Fi connection...
> So, to use the netinstall image is not possible in this situation I think.

You can use the firmware-enabled netinst image:

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso

Samuel



Re: brltty failing to load in initramfs started before systemd-udev-settle.service

2022-11-14 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Hello,

Below the response to a message from Samuel which didn't reach the list
because it had been posted to an older address.

Samuel Thibault (2022/11/13 21:52 +0100):
> Hello,
> 
> Digging back this old mail.
> 
> Sebastian Humenda, le mar. 13 déc. 2016 09:03:14 +0100, a ecrit:
> > The proposed change possibly breaks the initramfs-option of BRLTTY, but that
> > never worked for me so far.
> 
> In the Debian packaging there was a bug, we fixed it with Sébastien this
> week-end, uploaded as version 6.5-5.

Special thanks to Samuel for his help in this. Two remarks:

1. Practically, the ability to embed BRLTTY in initramfs means that one
becomes able to have an encrypted hard drive and to have braille support
for entering the passphrase to access it.

2. As suggested by Samuel privately, it may be suitable to have the
support for embedding BRLTTY in initramfs upstreamed so that this
feature becomes available in all distributions, especially in the
context of being able to encrypt ones hard drive.

Sébastien.



Re: brltty failing to load in initramfs started before systemd-udev-settle.service

2022-11-14 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Samuel Thibault (2022/11/13 21:52 +0100):
> Hello,
> 
> Digging back this old mail.
> 
> Sebastian Humenda, le mar. 13 déc. 2016 09:03:14 +0100, a ecrit:
> > The proposed change possibly breaks the initramfs-option of BRLTTY, but that
> > never worked for me so far.
> 
> In the Debian packaging there was a bug, we fixed it with Sébastien this
> week-end, uploaded as version 6.5-5.

Special thanks to Samuel for his help in this. Two remarks:

1. Practically, the ability to embed BRLTTY in initramfs means that one
becomes able to have an encrypted hard drive and to have braille support
for entering the passphrase to access it.

2. As suggested by Samuel privately, it may be suitable to have the
support for embedding BRLTTY in initramfs upstreamed so that this
feature becomes available in all distributions, especially in the
context of being able to encrypt ones hard drive.

Sébastien.