Re: Installing non-free speech synths

2023-12-25 Thread Roberto Burceni

Hello,

You can find non free synthetizers here:

https://oralux.net/voice.php

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Il 16/12/23 16:59, Odd Martin Baanrud ha scritto:

Hello,

Where can I find info about installing non-free synthesizers, such as Eloquence 
and Vocalizer?
The wiki doesn’t say anything about it, and I can’t find any info in e.g. 
/usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-voxin.

Regards, Martin.




Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Roberto Burceni

Ok but at this point which is the exactly the main function of brltty-x11?


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Il 04/09/23 21:28, Samuel Thibault ha scritto:

Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:16:47 +0200, a ecrit:

Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200):

So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the
a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields

Well I am unsure about what you mean by text field here because, for the
little of GUI I am using (Firefox essentially), I have observed this
behaviour or not being able to use braille window navigation and routing
keys in a very constant way. Is any place in a web page really a
text-filed?

Yes. Or more precisely: they all expose a text interface, even if they
don't have a text role. Since apparently orca doesn't capture routing
key events, these events fall back to being exposed to the a2 driver,
which gives it to brltty, which uses a2 to read the widget content, and
perform the cursor routing.


Also, if the a2 screen driver "just" takes precedence, shouldn't things
still work when it's not there?

If Orca was capturing routing key events, yes. It appears that doesn't
happen.

In the test I made with Roberto's case, it really was brltty's way of
pressing arrows to simulate routing, that Orca doesn't implement anyway.


knows it brings better support in that case (the cursor routing you get
is achieved by the brltty core itself, not the a2 driver which is only
the "messenger").

But that is not what is supposed to happen when you click (use cursor
routing keys) on links in Firefox, right?

Ah, that part seems odd however, indeed.

But again, which version of brltty are you using?


So it's not really Orca that "depends" on brltty-x11, it's just that
brltty-x11 is an interesting complement to Orca, to improve screen
reading.

I don't think it's fair to put things this way frankly. Currently, you
simply can't read the screen in braille without brltty-x11...

If that is so, it's a bug that needs a fix in Orca, and not just make
people install brltty-x11 as a workaround that we don't even understand
how it happens to work.

Samuel
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Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Roberto Burceni
Ok I ask another thing about braille navigation that is strange but I 
did not find any solution:


When I am in a browser and navitate with pan key, when I encounter an 
unordered or ordered list, the braille display stay on the first item 
and do not go on te following.


To go to the next item I have to press down arrow key.

Have you an idea about this behaviour?

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Il 04/09/23 21:01, Samuel Thibault ha scritto:

Ok, I see.

So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the
a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields because it
knows it brings better support in that case (the cursor routing you get
is achieved by the brltty core itself, not the a2 driver which is only
the "messenger").

So it's not really Orca that "depends" on brltty-x11, it's just that
brltty-x11 is an interesting complement to Orca, to improve screen
reading.

That being said, perhaps the orca package should still recommend
brltty-x11, the same way it recommends xbrlapi which also improves it.

We however need to be very cautious because installing brltty-x11
installs brltty, which enables usb-serial drivers which hurt ftdi serial
adapters users. I'll see how to arrange that.

Samuel

Roberto Burceni, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 20:43:17 +0200, a ecrit:

I'm using brltty 6.5 which is in ubuntu 23.04. But I discovered this problem
also in debian buster and bullseye with brltty 6.3.


Roberto Burceni

Il 04/09/23 19:01, Samuel Thibault ha scritto:

Roberto Burceni, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 18:51:50 +0200, a ecrit:

I confirm that without brltty-x11 you can not navigate nor use cursor
routing.

Just to make sure: which version of brltty is this? There was a bug
concerning keys in brltty 6.6, and a2 running might have a side effect.

Samuel

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R: which desktop is more accessible in debian

2022-06-29 Thread Roberto Burceni
Hello Didier,
Thank you for your response. Which distribution are you using for xlqt?
Thanks I will try to view if there are backports for bullseye 

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-Messaggio originale-
Da: Didier Spaier  
Inviato: mercoledì 29 giugno 2022 15:08
A: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Oggetto: Re: which desktop is more accessible in debian

Hi,

Le 29/06/2022 à 14:25, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Roberto Burceni, le mer. 29 juin 2022 14:03:38 +0200, a ecrit:
>> Which is the more accessible desktop at this moment between mate xlqt and 
>> gnome?
> 
> We rather usually recommend mate.

I was about to recommend to also give a go to LXQt (mostly accessible and now 
my daily driver), but the version available as a meta-package in Debian is still
0.16.0 while the most recent one is 1.1.0, so probably better wait until and/or 
request that it be updated.

Cheers,
Didier




which desktop is more accessible in debian

2022-06-29 Thread Roberto Burceni
Hello, 

I’m an italian blind user that used, in the past, gnome desktop in linux. 

In these days I would like to reinstall graphical user interface and I
noticed that there are some desktop that can be used.

Which is the more accessible desktop at this momen between mate xlqt and
gnome?

I’m using debian bullseye! 

Thank you in advance 

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