Re: Fwd: Do others see install failures on DNS-323 to ext2 FS from Debian 7.0 netboot.img?

2013-11-13 Thread Tai Viinikka
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com wrote:

 I finally had time to look into this issue.  I summarized what I found
 in a bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/729445

What a clear and simple report -- thanks, Martin!

 (Ext2 seems to be the only linux-native FS available in the installer.)

 I wonder why you say that.

 That's something I never understood about the several reports I
 received from other users about this problem.  Why do they use ext2
 for the root partition?  By default, the installer should use ext3,
 but for some reason it must be ext2 on the DNS-323.  I'm not sure why
 and I'm not around my ARM devices at the moment to check.  But this is
 definitely another issue since ext2 should *not* be the default for
 the root partition (only for /boot).

Yes. I can only speak for my colleague and myself; we saw only ext2
and several FAT-related choices when we ran d-i and chose to use its
partitioning UI. I don't know why ext3 et al. were not on the menu.

Of course, d-i is running in 64 MB of RAM in this case. Two
possibilities occur to me: 1) the installer is ignoring more
memory-intensive partitioning options right away 2) the installer
looks at disk size and estimates how much RAM it will need, and then
offers partitioning options it can support.

A google for Memory allocation failed while setting up superblock
shows (with only RAM 192 MB, no swap) some examples of the kind of
problem d-i might be seeking to avoid by offering ext2 only. I
apologize for speculating without reading the source.

The disk I was installing on was 2 TB. When I have time, I shall try
the same install on a 250 GB disk and report.

I am very grateful for the help, Martin, and for any opinions from the list.

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Re: Fwd: Do others see install failures on DNS-323 to ext2 FS from Debian 7.0 netboot.img?

2013-11-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Tai Viinikka t...@eastpole.ca [2013-11-13 10:24]:
 Yes. I can only speak for my colleague and myself; we saw only ext2
 and several FAT-related choices when we ran d-i and chose to use its
 partitioning UI. I don't know why ext3 et al. were not on the menu.
 
 Of course, d-i is running in 64 MB of RAM in this case. Two

Thanks for pointing this out.  This explains the behaviour you're
seeing.  Debian installer has a low memory mode (lowmem).  In this
mode, additional modules are not loaded automatically; this includes
the ext3 module.

I'll change the instructions to tell users to choose the ext3
manually.

Martin, wondering when 64 MB of RAM became low memory...
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Re: Fwd: Do others see install failures on DNS-323 to ext2 FS from Debian 7.0 netboot.img?

2013-11-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
Hi Tai,

* Tai Viinikka t...@eastpole.ca [2013-10-13 08:46]:
 Summary: the current installer for the DNS-323, using ext2
 filesystem, cannot make the system bootable because necessary links
 are not created in /dev/disk/by-uuid/

I finally had time to look into this issue.  I summarized what I found
in a bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/729445

I hope someone who is more knowledgeable about this part of the
installer will take a look soon.

 (Ext2 seems to be the only linux-native FS available in the installer.)

I wonder why you say that.

That's something I never understood about the several reports I
received from other users about this problem.  Why do they use ext2
for the root partition?  By default, the installer should use ext3,
but for some reason it must be ext2 on the DNS-323.  I'm not sure why
and I'm not around my ARM devices at the moment to check.  But this is
definitely another issue since ext2 should *not* be the default for
the root partition (only for /boot).

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Re: Fwd: Do others see install failures on DNS-323 to ext2 FS from Debian 7.0 netboot.img?

2013-10-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Tai Viinikka t...@eastpole.ca [2013-10-13 08:46]:
 Are we alone in seeing this? Should I file a bug or re-open an existing bug?

No, you're not the only one.  I received a number of similar bug
reports recently.

I'll try to investigate soon.
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