Bug#429605: git-core: git 1.4.x is REALLY outdated (and has a proven bug in bisect)

2007-06-19 Thread Carlo Wood
On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 05:54:56PM +, Gerrit Pape wrote:
 Hi Carlo, we usually don't include new upstream versions into a Debian
 stable release.  For some packages this might seem bad, for some it's
 definitely good.  Overall it helps the quality of a Debian stable
 release during its lifetime.

Well, there is nothing you can do about etch anymore anyway,
my request was for 'testing'.

 The recent versions of git are included in the unstable distribution,
 and after some delay in the testing distribution too.

Does there have to be a fixed delay? How is this delay determined?

 For users of the
 stable release, there's the backports.org service that provides new
 upstream versions to be installed on the stable release, see also this
 thread
 
  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/50411

I participated in that thread, as you can see :p

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Bug#429605: git-core: git 1.4.x is REALLY outdated (and has a proven bug in bisect)

2007-06-19 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:33:40PM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 05:54:56PM +, Gerrit Pape wrote:
  Hi Carlo, we usually don't include new upstream versions into a Debian
  stable release.  For some packages this might seem bad, for some it's
  definitely good.  Overall it helps the quality of a Debian stable
  release during its lifetime.
 
 Well, there is nothing you can do about etch anymore anyway,
 my request was for 'testing'.
 
  The recent versions of git are included in the unstable distribution,
  and after some delay in the testing distribution too.
 
 Does there have to be a fixed delay? How is this delay determined?

The delay isn't fixed, but a minimum of 10, 5, or 2 days, depending on
the importance of the upgrade.  Sometimes it's longer though, in the
case of git currently, it's a libcurl transition, and a problem with the
parisc architecture, that keeps it out of testing.  This will sort out
eventually.  In the meantime you should be able to install the git
packages from unstable, or build suitable packages for your testing
system yourself, e.g.

 # apt-get build-dep gitcore
 # apt-get -b source git-core

  For users of the
  stable release, there's the backports.org service that provides new
  upstream versions to be installed on the stable release, see also this
  thread
  
   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/50411
 
 I participated in that thread, as you can see :p

Ups, sorry ;).

HTH, Gerrit.


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Bug#429605: git-core: git 1.4.x is REALLY outdated (and has a proven bug in bisect)

2007-06-18 Thread Carlo Wood
Package: git-core
Version: 1:1.4.4.4-2
Severity: normal

I am using Lenny, which still has git-core 1.4.4.4.
After I ran into a very weird behaviour of 'git bisect' on
the linux kernel, I had some correspondence with Linus Torvalds
and he urged me to upgrade to 1.5. I did this, and the problem
went away.

Linus writes:

  On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Carlo Wood wrote:
   Conclusion: the weird behaviour that you think was wrong is
   totally due to git 1.4.4.4.

  Ok. I'll bounce a note to Junio just due to curiosity in case he goes
  ahh, yeah, it was that known bug, but I'll otherwise ignore this.

  Git-1.5.x is such a radically better version (not because it fixes this
  bug, but because we fixed a number of other issues, notably some very
  basic usability things), that I think any git users should really
  upgrade to a newer version.

  IOW, there's simply no reason to stay on anything older (git has always
  been backwards compatible since very early on, so upgrading to a newer
  version of git won't break anything, although some of the new UI's might
  obviously cause you to do things differently).


As Linus is the author of git - I'd like, in turn, urge the debian
maintainers of git-core to upgrade to 1.5.x.  1.4.4.4 is REALLY too
outdated to have ANY benefit whatsoever. It is not more stable or
anything, it's just plain old, buggy and much worse to use. Nobody
should be using it.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-rc4-hikaru-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages git-core depends on:
ii  libc6 2.5-9  GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcurl3-gnutls   7.15.5-1   Multi-protocol file transfer libra
ii  libdigest-sha1-perl   2.11-2 NIST SHA-1 message digest algorith
ii  liberror-perl 0.15-8 Perl module for error/exception ha
ii  libexpat1 1.95.8-3.4 XML parsing C library - runtime li
ii  perl-modules  5.8.8-7Core Perl modules
ii  zlib1g1:1.2.3-15 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages git-core recommends:
pn  curl  none (no description available)
pn  git-doc   none (no description available)
ii  less  394-4  Pager program similar to more
ii  openssh-client [ssh-client]   1:4.3p2-9  Secure shell client, an rlogin/rsh
ii  patch 2.5.9-4Apply a diff file to an original
ii  rsync 2.6.9-3fast remote file copy program (lik

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