Re: help needed: LSM acronym
On Fri, 05 Jan 2018, Adam Borowski wrote: > Thus, could someone suggest something betterer? It doesn't need to > spell "kitteh", nor even anything cat themed, although obviously > references to nasty things like dogs, Hitler or emacs (in decreasing > order of badness) are unpreferred. Makes Evil Orthography Wrong or MEOWS: Evil Orthography Was Silenced Oooo. A bikeshed appears! -- Don Armstrong https://www.donarmstrong.com I would like to be the air that inhabits you for a moment only. I would like to be that unnoticed & that necessary. -- Margaret Atwood "Poetry in Motion" p140
Re: Call for volunteers: FTP Team
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 14767 March 1977, Jonathan Carter wrote: > > If someone hypothetically joins, are they allowed to rename the FTP > > team to something that doesn't include "FTP"? > > GopherTeam? UUCP Team? Go Team RFC1149! -- Don Armstrong https://www.donarmstrong.com Have you ever noticed: the most vocal superpatriots are the old men who send young men out to die. -- Harlan Ellison "Basilisk" (_Deathbird Stories_ p73)
Re: The furniture dilemma [Was: Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution]
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016, Francesca Ciceri wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 04:02:26PM +0200, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > > At any rate, we all know what an organization ruled by furniture is > > called: a bureaucracy :P > > And of course the staff will ensure everything runs smoothly. While keeping the speakers plugged in. -- Don Armstrong https://www.donarmstrong.com It was a very familiar voice. [...] It was a voice you could have used to open a bottle of whine. -- Terry Pratchett _The Last Continent_ p270
Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Please check if I forgot something obvious or if there is some big error > > in it. Patches/git trees to merge from/... are welcome. > > Please don't call this feature "Bikesheds" and don't hardcode this naming > in the suggested API. It was funny during one Debconf talk... but it won't > be funny in the long term. > > I don't want to suggest bikeshedding on the name but stick to something > simple like "XXX Package (Repository|Archive)" with a XXX that makes sense > to you (Special, Developer, Custom, ...). Let the bikeshedding of Bikesheds commence! -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance. -- William's Law
Re: Crypto export
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Alberto Fuentes wrote: On 04/11/2013 08:27 AM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: https://ftp-master.debian.org/crypto-in-main/ Plus one mail for *every* NEW accepted package. Each and every time. Send to them.[1] See the dak git repo for the bxa stuff. [1] Nowadays only stored in a mailbox from us, at request from them, but available if requested. Okay. *that* is crazy. Crazy as in insane. Crazy as in coocoo For so many reasons Welcome to the wonders of bureaucracy. Don Armstrong -- I cannot find rest Because I am powerless To amend a broken world. -- Guy Gavriel Kay _Under Heaven_ p295 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-curiosa-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130411160454.gz15...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
Re: [to all candidates] using debian funds for Debian's hardware infrastructure
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Moray Allan wrote: On 2013-03-12 02:47, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: @moray: can you tell DSA the lottery numbers of next week please? 3, 11, 14, 24, 34, 35. But I won't tell you *which* lottery those are for. Congratulations! You've won the Lint From My Pockets lottery! Suitable for gumming up sensitive equipment such as fans, motors, delicate bearing races, and the ever popular lint trap. As a bonus, it's also a fire hazard! Please sent a SASE, and I'll get your prize right to you! Don Armstrong -- Show me your flowcharts and conceal your tables, and I shall continue to be mystified. Show me your tables, and I won't usually need your flowcharts; they'll be obvious. -- Fredrick P. Brooks Jr., The Mythical Man Month http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-curiosa-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130314154841.gb5...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
Debconf Cheese and Wine Party in Mortal Danger! [Re: Bug#687693: ca-certificates: Cacert License is missing]
On Sun, 04 Nov 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: I hereby grant you a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to eat cheese with salami, subject to the following conditions: - You do not use the name of debian-legal while talking with food in your mouth. - You do not eat cheese with wine. No! - Neither the name of the University of California nor the name of the Tillamook County Creamery Association may be used to endorse or promote products derived from your consumption of cheese and salami without specific prior written permission. In the event that any provision of this license is held to be invalid or unenforceable, the remaining provisions of this license remain in full force and effect. Don Armstrong -- I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own. I resign. -- Patrick McGoohan as Number 6 in The Prisoner http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-curiosa-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121105213453.gg11...@rzlab.ucr.edu
Re: Private conversation
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Zombie Upstreams [Re: caudium package up for discussion removal or adoption]
On Tue, 18 May 2010, Henrik Andreasson wrote: also because upstream is not very active but not all dead (whats the definition of dead upstream?). They may have gone Zombie on you. I suggest chainsaws, cricket bats, pianos, and in a pinch, you could probably get by with some choice LPs. Don Armstrong -- He was wrong. Nature abhors dimensional abnormalities, and seals them neatly away so that they don't upset people. Nature, in fact, abhors a lot of things, including vacuums, ships called the Marie Celeste, and the chuck keys for electric drills. -- Terry Pratchet _Pyramids_ p166 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-curiosa-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100518210159.gc5...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
Re: Bug#548335: marked as done (base-files: include CC-BY-3.0 licenses in common-licenses)
On Mon, 05 Oct 2009, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: ps: I have a head cold, and this mail was crafted under the effect of cough medicine under the influence of which I am not supposed to be driving heavy machinery. I always supected that policy was heavy machinery, and that driving it may be contraindicated under some circumstances. Don Armstrong -- Grimble left his mother in the food store and went to the launderette and watched the clothes go round. It was a bit like color television only with less plot. -- Clement Freud _Grimble_ http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-curiosa-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
A panoply of errors [Re: xcdroast: Who to blame? Joerg!]
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: As I mentioned before, the attacks have been initated by Eduard Bloch Likely incorrect. who is no longer active in Debian. Completely incorrect. It would be a nice gesture if Debian would through him out. Morally incorrect. As he is currently already in a suspended status, Totally incorrect. this would be something that is not hard to do by Debian Naively incorrect. but it would show a sign of will. Gramatically incorrect. Don Armstrong -- Only one creature could have duplicated the expressions on their faces, and that would be a pigeon who has heard not only that Lord Nelson has got down off his column but has also been seen buying a 12-bore repeater and a box of cartridges. -- Terry Pratchet _Mort_ http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-curiosa-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:10:38AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: 1.618: Yes, for some reason I've adopted irrational footnote numbering. Don't ask why.[2.718] Actually, no. Heh. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to tell me that. ;-) Don Armstrong -- In all matters of government, the correct answer is usually: Do nothing -- Robert Heinlein _Time Enough For Love_ p428 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-curiosa-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Vomitus on laptops [Re: Xen support in Lenny?]
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Michael Banck wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:50:47AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: We wont hide problems, so people can see, investigate and fix them?! It's a slipperly slope - should we send pics of DDs vomiting over their laptop to debian-announce just because of the social contract? If it results in shiny new laptops, I'm all for it. ;-) Don Armstrong -- I'd sign up in a hot second for any cellular company whose motto was: We're less horrible than a root canal with a cold chisel. -- Cory Doctorow http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proposal - Logo Red is our color! [Re: Proposal - Project infrastructure team procedures]
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote: What's next, a GR determining the favourite color of the Debian collective? Clearly since our logo is red, it must be red! Don Armstrong -- UF: What's your favourite coffee blend? PD: Dark Crude with heavy water. You are understandink? If geiger counter does not click, the coffee, she is just not thick. http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vote
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008, Frank S. Thomas wrote: On A Day Ending in Y, Some Date, Someone wrote: - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- d81e16a2-03b6-4340-84f2-51de89b8185e [ 1 ] Choice 1: Ari [ 1 ] Choice 2: Ari can has Zeke [ 1 ] Choice 3: Zeke [ 1 ] Choice 4: Zeke can has Ari - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- And BTW: I don't think that DDs are so simple-minded and easily influenced by public ballots. I beg to differ! Don Armstrong -- Sentenced to two years hard labor (for sodomy), Oscar Wilde stood handcuffed in driving rain waiting for transport to prison. If this is the way Queen Victoria treats her prisoners, he remarked, she doesn't deserve to have any. http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get vs Aptitude
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Baz wrote: Why not put it on Debian User? Aptitude and Emacs are mainstream applications. I don't know if Debian User actually wants aptitude or emacs spread on them. Kind of a niche kink, that. Don Armstrong -- Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. -- Robert Heinlein http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dopewars do we need such a game in debian distribution?
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Matthew K Poer wrote: That said, I can't say I have much respect for those who wrote, ported, package, or play this game. It's just dumb. Yeay. Even more people who don't have much respect for me! Seriously, has anyone expressing outrage about this game actually played it? It's one of those silly games that you played on a calculator in junior high or high school because it could be written in under a thousand lines of code. I mean, nethack is *way* more violent and traumatizing. Don Armstrong -- Quite the contrary; they *love* collateral damage. If they can make you miserable enough, maybe you'll stop using email entirely. Once enough people do that, then there'll be no legitimate reason left for anyone to run an SMTP server, and the spam problem will be solved. -- Craig Dickson in [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#457318: ITP: qmail -- a secure, reliable, efficient, simple message transfer agent
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Joerg Jaspert wrote: There are *way* better MTAs [than qmail] out there that dont need tons of patches applied just to fulfill basic requirements for a MTA. No, there are not. Yes, there are. No, there are not. Yes, there are. No, there are not. Yes, there are. No, there are not. Yes, there are. No, there are not. Yes, there are. No, there are not. Yes, there are. No, there are not. Yes, there are. Next? ;-) Don Armstrong -- My spelling ability, or rather the lack thereof, is one of the wonders of the modern world. http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: download
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I JUST NEED TO OPEN A RAR FILE. THANKS less foo.rar; ... Don Armstrong -- The beauty of the DRUNKENNESS subprogram was that you could move your intoxication level up and down at will, instead of being caught on a relentless down escalator to bargain basement philosophy and the parking garage. -- Rudy von Bitter _Software_ p124 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: (Happily I generally use a language where we have two different words for these different concepts.) It's not like english hasn't stolen the words gratis and libre already. [Having no equivalent of the Académie française, picking up other language's words isn't a big deal.] Don Armstrong -- Fate and Temperament are two words for one and the same concept. -- Novalis [Hermann Hesse _Demian_] http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu
Re: bugs in packages not frequently used
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Russ Allbery wrote: We all appreciate good bug reports, Speak for yourself! Don Armstrong -- Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all other possibilities. -- W. Churchill http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Constitutional amendment: reduce the length of DPL election process
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On su, 2007-08-05 at 01:07 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 11:54:15AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: GRs do not unite, they divide. They divide the DDs in two: the one the losers and the winners. Just because your argument doesn't win the day doesn't mean you're a loser, or divided off from the rest of the project. FULL AGREEMENT STOP GRACEFULLY ACCEPTING LOSS VITAL STOP COME TO BLANDINGS NEXT WEEKEND STOP ANATOLE IN TOP FORM STOP .-. ..- .-.. .-.. .- --. .-. . . -- . -. - ... - --- .--. --. .-. .- -.-. . ..-. ..- .-.. .-.. -.-- .- -.-. -.-. . .--. - .. -. --. .-.. --- ... ... ...- .. - .- .-.. ... - --- .--. -.-. --- -- . - --- -... .-.. .- -. -.. .. -. --. ... -. . -..- - .-- . . -.- . -. -.. ... - --- .--. .- -. .- - --- .-.. . .. -. - --- .--. ..-. --- .-. -- ... - --- .--. ...--. -.. --- -. .- .-. -- ... - .-. --- -. --. ...-.- -- ... .. --. . .-. . ...-.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fight between the BTS and someone's vacation message
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: This is pretty funny, if sad: http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2007/07/msg00207.html through http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2007/07/msg00216.html Apparently some spammer has been joe-jobbing 99324 (at) bugs (dot) debian (dot) org. And one copy of the spam went to some guy with a vacation message set up. Now the BTS your info received message and the guy's vacation message are playing ping-pong... I don't envy the listmasters and BTS maintainers. Yeah, it's alread been fixed. Whoever is joe-jobbing 99324 keeps finding people with spectacularly broken auto responders. Don Armstrong -- PowerPoint is symptomatic of a certain type of bureaucratic environment: one typified by interminable presentations with lots of fussy little bullet-points and flashy dissolves and soundtracks masked into the background, to try to convince the audience that the goon behind the computer has something significant to say. -- Charles Stross _The Jennifer Morgue_ p33 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: your mail
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Jorge Pérez Lara wrote: It's true Debian is going to dead It's most likely true; some time before the eventually heat death of the universe, Debian will die. It's impossible, if you dead, LINUX is going to dead I don't think linux will be able to escape heat death either. Don Armstrong -- Grimble left his mother in the food store and went to the launderette and watched the clothes go round. It was a bit like colour television only with less plot. -- Clement Freud _Grimble_ http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu
Re: PERSONAL LOAN - KTA
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 03:41 +, Pascal Hakim wrote: The spam email you're complaining about was sent by a subscriber. Does that mean it's not spam? No, it still is spam. It's not requested by any other list members. Hrm. I didn't request this mail either... what to do... what to do... I know! Let's not let anyone post at all! That'll end the spam problem! Don Armstrong -- Tell me something interesting about yourself. Lie if you have to. -- hugh macleod http://www.gapingvoid.com/archives/batch20.php http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, martin f krafft wrote: *plonk* *plink* Damn. I missed. *plink* Missed again. *BLMO* Hrm. Can't see downrange anymore. Don Armstrong -- Fate and Temperament are two words for one and the same concept. -- Novalis [Hermann Hesse _Demian_] http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I am still on the keyring. With my old key.
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Jaakko Niemi wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Andreas Schuldei wrote: Get to next debconf and see him actually work with people. No need for words. did i beat someone up when i was watched? did it get caught on film, even? (c: ... where did the evidence go? :) You think that was reindeer that was eaten? Don Armstrong -- Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed. -- Robert Heinlein _Time Enough For Love_ p250 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: most consistently geeky award?
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: http://www.extremetech.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l=s=200a=158083po=6,00.asp has a picture of Debian's recent LWCE booth, with a somewhat amusing caption. :-) BTW, anyone know who's in the picture? I'm pretty sure the guy standing up in the black T-shirt is Jeremy Bouse, but I can't identify the others. Yeah, that's jeremy bouse, I'm on the far left with a massively contorted face for some reason, and between Jeremy and myself (from left to right) is Scott Prader (Gnea on IRC) and William Morgan. [The person in the foreground I don't recognize, and the guy to the left of myself is a KDE developer in the adjacent booth.] Don Armstrong -- She was alot like starbucks. IE, generic and expensive. -- hugh macleod http://www.gapingvoid.com/batch3.htm http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release update: minor delay; no non-RC fixes; upgrade reports
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 04:29:31AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: So it is probably true that sarge will release with some RC bugs that could have easily been fixed had we known about them, but I don't think this number will be so great that we want to redirect resources or delay the release in order to try to catch them. Why is there now always such a hurry to get everything out within a week? This must be some newfangled definition of 'hurry' that I was not previously aware of. Don Armstrong -- I'd never hurt another living thing. But if I did... It would be you. -- Chris Bishop http://www.chrisbishop.com/her/archives/her69.html http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is your bible a program?
I've no clue what list this belongs on, but since it's marginally entertaining, even if it's at Thomas's and my expense, -curiosa gets to be subjected. [Something about Debian not being a lumber company sniped.] On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, David N. Welton wrote: So the Inquisition was a bug caused in the execution of the bible? I think some of the instruction set, like not wearing mixed fibers, is a bit odd, but then some people say that about x86 too. Well, we've been there before, albeit on a slightly different subject: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/08/msg01603.html On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: The KJV is not a program. But it is software. Software has a different extension than programs. An argument could even be made that the KJV is a program, only with a set of ruless governing people, rather than a set of rules governing a computer. And no, I didn't need to invoke a Namshub to get there. Don Armstrong -- If you have the slightest bit of intellectual integrity you cannot support the government. -- anonymous http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
