Re: DEP-5 copyright with different licenses for two parts of the same file

2023-08-29 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 06:31:52PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> in daemon(1), I have a file with has two contradicting licenses in the
> same file. See
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/daemon/-/blob/master/libslack/getopt.c

lovely. <3

thanks for sharing! :)


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Re: Debian part of a version number when epoch is bumped

2018-02-06 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 03:34:50PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> That would completely ruin my plan to only ever release version 1.0 of
> all of my future projects, but increase the epoch instead.

you are very evil indeed.


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Re: ftp master uploads disappearing?

2017-09-26 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 07:21:51PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > > > I now use dupload which does not have that kind of issues.
> > > Indeed, dupload worked right ahead. Thanks.
> > How odd.  Is there a bug filed against dput ?
> Also note there's also dput-ng.

Look! Squirrels!


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Re: Bug#857986: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#857986: npm: This pakcage is 3 years old? (consider removal)

2017-05-22 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 03:11:56PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > 78 new modules to package. If one person were to work full time, I 
> > think about 10-15 days time.
> ...for the _initial_ packaging work.
> We are package *maintainers*.

we are all volunteers here, please don't tell others what to do! 

;-)



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Re: SPAM SPAM SPAM

2016-09-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 12:00:58PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> Spam is never on-topic here or anywhere else.

+1

I could probably post a "funny" spam mail here every week or more often, yet I
don't think anyone wants to read it. 

Analysing ones poo is probably as funny *and* more healthy.


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Re: Debian conspiracy theories?

2016-08-18 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 02:02:27PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * There's apparently some kind of Swedish conspiracy:
> http://meetings-archive.debian.net/conspiracy/

I hate to disappoint, but this one is probably an artifact of
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/conspiracy/


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howto move threads away from -private@ (was: CLASSIFIED)

2016-08-10 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 12:52:33PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Nothing I've written here is private.  You may quote me on a public mailing
> list, but not on debian-private ;)

LOL

that's a really good one, to be repeated many times.

thanks! :) (originally intended to send privately to just Steve, but
then realized I should cc:s some lists :-D


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Re: Package naming rant

2016-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 01:42:53AM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On a more general way, I'm really disappointed by this thread.

same here. "passive aggressive disguised as funny" is a bit too harsh as
summary, but not much, IMO.

> Guys, I don't appreciate this joke at all. Probably I should stop caring
> for all of this, just let upstream do all sorts of nasty things, package
> and upload that to Debian. Why should I care, if anyway, I get this type
> of thread in return?

understood.

Thomas, I applaud your impressive work on openstack, even though I'm not
even using it! :-) (and if there are bugs, be it unclear descriptions or
whatever, they should be filed as actionable bugs.)


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Re: removing ftp:// from mirrors lists

2016-04-19 Thread Holger Levsen
this should straight to -curiosa :-)

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 02:42:39PM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> That's good, the more strongly FTP is discouraged, the better.
> 
> Please just go ahead and remove it, I don't think this discussion has any
> purpose any more.
> 
> /Mattias Wadenstein - for the ftp.acc.umu.se team
> 

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Re: [Sorry Neil] Wording modification of the The ???no GR, please??? amendement.

2014-10-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Felipe,

On Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2014, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 02:22:25 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
  I like this changed version indeed much more, thanks a lot for your work
  on this! Writing short texts well is almost an art ;-)
 “The present letter is a very long one, simply because I had no leisure
 to make it shorter.”

Yeah, I had that quote in mind when writing the above, but I wasn't aware 
Pascal said that, I fairly sure I learned in school it was Goethe... not sure 
if in the yard or classroom though :-)
 
 Blaise Pascal, 1656
 [1] http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/pascal/letters-c.html

thanks! It's great to learn via -curiosa@l.d.o! :)


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Re: Mass do not use bash bug filing

2014-09-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Freitag, 26. September 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote:
 I was once accused of doing an unannounced MBF after filing a single
 bug. : It's not necessarily the bug volume that triggers anti-MBF
 defence mechanisms in developers.

lol / wow! 

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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Montag, 7. April 2014, Gergely Nagy wrote:
 Can we have ratpoison + selected things as default DE for Debian Zurg?
 Please? Pretty please? With sugar on top?

please make up your mind, which DE do you want? ratpoison or sugar?


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Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Freitag, 4. April 2014, Russ Allbery wrote:
 We should change the default desktop environment with each release so that
 each maintenance team gets to share in the fun!  It's like a giant hazing
 ritual.  :)

wow, the quality of debian-devel has really degraded. Russ starts trolling... 
at least it's still funny :-)


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Re: Bug#717785: ITP: python-termcolor -- ANSII Color formatting for output in terminal

2013-08-01 Thread Holger Levsen
On Donnerstag, 1. August 2013, Darren Salt wrote:
Description : ANSII Color formatting for output in terminal
  So, ANSI or ASCII? :)
 ASCI, of course.

ah, so UTF-7!




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Re: systemd^wfoo on linux, bar on bsd,so what (Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
 FSF on the other hand:
[...]

You forgot their failure with this gnu unix system they were trying to 
build! This also didnt take off - what a bunch of loosers!


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Re: Bug#455769: same problem on wheezy + Thinkpad X220T

2013-03-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Donnerstag, 28. März 2013, Daniel Pocock wrote:
 The severity guidelines don't say whether the definition of `system'
 includes hardware.
 
 A broad definition of system could include the backpack carrying the
 laptop, and the bottle of wine that heats up because it is in there with
 the laptop.
 
 Some organisations have multiple metrics for each bug, e.g. an impact
 metric to measure how many users suffer.  Non-technical users are likely
 to suffer and have a bad impression of Debian when their laptop heats up
 in their backpack.

I'd think non-technical users are more concerned about the wine heating up. 
Hot wine tastes really aweful!


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Re: webmail administrador

2012-11-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Dienstag, 20. November 2012, Adrià wrote:
 JFYI, remember you can also report it to Google, by following the link
 located into footer's form.

right, instead of running Debian, you can also run Windows. And Microsoft 
Word!


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Re: A common configuration format, anyone?

2012-11-14 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 14. November 2012, Игорь Пашев wrote:
 XML is not human-readable :-)

either, 
you have not seen good XML, or
you are not human, or
you cannot read.



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Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update

2012-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Donnerstag, 8. November 2012, Benjamin Drung wrote:
 Hm, I filed two unblock requests after that deadline, but before reading
 the announce mail about it.

get a lawyer, quick! 


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Re: List threads mentioning /tmp to be deleted at boot time

2012-06-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Samstag, 23. Juni 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
 to save disk space I'm suggesting to delete all threads which mention
 '/tmp' in the Subject within the debian-devel and debian-curiosa archives
 at boot time. So this will happen with the next point release which ships
 a new kernel image or with the next security update of the kernel in
 Squeeze.

I think this is such a good idea that I'm writing this mail to spread the 
message widely! If you reply, consider cc:ing debian-de...@lists.debian.org!


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Re: smaller than 0 but not negative (Re: question about Conflicts:

2012-05-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Donnerstag, 3. Mai 2012, Guillem Jover wrote:
 RPM has now support for ~ in latest git. http://rpm.org/ticket/56

oh shiny! thanks for that pointer! anybody know by chance whether gentoo is 
jumping on this too?


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smaller than 0 but not negative (Re: question about Conflicts:

2012-05-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Montag, 30. April 2012, Ralf Treinen wrote:
 Conflicts: foo (= 0), foo ( 0)
 to be exact, since versions smaller than 0 are possible.

*grin*

btw, is the concept of numbers smaller than zero but not negative known/used 
anywhere outside of debian/dpkg?


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Re: smaller than 0 but not negative (Re: question about Conflicts:

2012-05-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hey Cyril,

On Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2012, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Something like that?
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signed_zero

interesting, thanks. but as I understand it, -0 is smaller than zero?! (see 
Scientific uses on that page). I wondered if anything else was using smaller 
than zero _but not negative_ (and making sense ;) (as/similar to 0~foo)

Else this smells like a true original new idea! :-D


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Re: [Debconf-team] Magazine Ad is ready!

2011-05-30 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 30. Mai 2011, Christian PERRIER wrote:
 Quoting Holger Levsen (hol...@layer-acht.org):
  Remember, the The People's Liberation Front of Judea is something very
  different to the Judean People's Liberation Front!
 You Heretic! This is the People's Front of Judea (not to be confused
 with Judean People's Front). There has never been any mention of
 Liberation whatsoever. WTH are you thinking about?

Liberation. (ttf)


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Re: Bug#584207: ITP: howm -- note-taking tool on Emacs

2010-06-02 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010, Youhei SASAKI wrote:
   Description : Note-taking tool on Emacs

somehow I won't be surprised to see an editing tool for emacs...


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Re: Revisited: The Big Swirl Umbrella

2009-10-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Adrian,

On Freitag, 2. Oktober 2009, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
 Revisiting this age-old idea of an Umbrella with the swirl on the whole
 umbrella (and not just on one segment.)

hehe, cool! Even though I dont like umbrellas, but/because sometimes they are 
useful indeed ;-)

 I'd need to make 240 umbrellas at least.
 Still  I'm thinking about getting this started if I see a realistic
 chance that they'd sell.

Make them just in time for DebConf10?


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Holger


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Re: [Pkg-scicomp-devel] Uploading lapack 3.2.0 to unstable

2009-02-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Montag, 16. Februar 2009, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
 At first, I thought it was OK but in fact, they made some interface changes
 in the routines ZCGESV DLASQ3 DLASQ4 SLASQ3 SLASQ4 and removed the routines
 DLAZQ3 DLAZQ4 SLAZQ3 SLAZQ4. I don't know if they are used or not ...

eh, what? 

:-)


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Re: Release update: deep freeze, planned dates, and remaining bugs

2009-02-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Montag, 2. Februar 2009, Enrico Zini wrote:
 $ perl -e 'print(gmtime(1234567890).\n);'
 Fri Feb 13 23:31:30 2009

Oh noes, friday the 13th!!! The Y1234567890 bug will make the world explode!!1


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Re: Call for opinions: slogan for the Lenny release ?

2008-10-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Sunday 12 October 2008 09:17, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
 I believe that the phrase The Universal Operating System doesn't fit
 anymore for Debian, because it's simply not universal (=for all archs)
 anymore.

Huh? The universal OS was never only ment to mean all archs...

(Also we never supported all archs in the world :-)


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Re: Debian Maintainer application for Samuel Thibault

2008-09-25 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Artur,

On Thursday 25 September 2008 11:21, Artur R. Czechowski wrote:
  I also met him several times over the years in real life, and it was
  always a pleasure.  Debian also needs more trombone players.
 So, where and when people can see Debian team giving performance?

http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2007/debconf7/high/243_Jam_session.ogg

 Count me and my conga in :)

Modifications are allowed ;-)


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the internet is for censorship! (Re: Debian and non-free)

2008-09-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Friday 19 September 2008 15:21, cobaco wrote:
 Censorship is nothing more or less then banning/prohibiting certain speach
 in a certain forum

So if you go to a party, drink all the booze, puke in the kitchen on the food 
and then get kicked out by the hosts, because they cant stand you wanting to 
discuss that you deserve more booze, this is censorship?

Interesting.


regards,
Holger

P.S.: s/you/someone/


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Re: Renaming New Maintainer to New Developer?

2008-06-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Wednesday 11 June 2008 17:12, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
  Since there now is the concept of Debian Maintainers (DM), New
  Maintainer (NM) should be renamed to New Developer [ND?]. This could
  prevent confusion about the state of Debian Developers and Debian
  Maintainers.
 And while we're at it, NM are not new so maybe PD for prospective
 developers or FD for future developers. But FD is already front desk.

Maybe FUD is a better acronym then?


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Re: Updated Debian Developers Keyring

2008-04-18 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Friday 18 April 2008 09:39, Marc Haber wrote:
 A German would be inclined to say Das hat ein Geschmäckle.

I'm not sure that I qualify, but I seriously doubt the above is german ;-)


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Holger


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Re: apt-get vs Aptitude

2008-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Thursday 20 March 2008 08:52, Don Armstrong wrote:
 Because aptitude is the recommended frontend, and resolves problems
 far better than apt-get is currently able to do. It also properly
 handles automatically installed packages, allows users to choose which
 problem resolution they use, has a more powerfull package selection
 method, can handle queuing actions, has an ncurses interface, can show
 changelogs, can report bugs, can slice, can dice, can use the kitchen
 sink...

Does it have an emacs mode?


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Holger


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please update game to 21st century (Fwd: Re: dopewars do we need such a game in debian distribution?

2008-03-02 Thread Holger Levsen
package: dopewars
severity: wishlist

Hi,

maybe this is silly, maybe it would indeed be funny to have modern drugs in 
the game as well... :)


regards,
Holger

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Subject: Re: dopewars do we need such a game in debian distribution?
Date: Saturday 01 March 2008 19:31
From: Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Criggie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-curiosa@lists.debian.org

On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 07:22:11PM +1300, Criggie wrote:
 Sam Couter wrote:
 The statistics are probably even worse here from that point of view; not
 because we're a bunch of drunk ex-convicts, but because we have fewer
 homocides than a bunch of violent puritans. :)

 My top score is $2.5 Million how about the rest of you?

One million something, I suck, I know...

OTOH, please find attached (filters permitting) a rot13 encoded patch
that brings the game into the 21st century, by adding Va to the list
of dxxxs you can deal.

This message has been somehow obfuscated otherwise it wouldn't reach the
list.


Ciao,

Enrico

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---
qvss -Anhe qbcrjnef-1.5.12/fep/qbcrjnef.p qbcrjnef-1.5.12.ivnten/fep/qbcrjnef.p
--- qbcrjnef-1.5.12/fep/qbcrjnef.p  2006-09-17 02:16:02.0 +0200
+++ qbcrjnef-1.5.12.ivnten/fep/qbcrjnef.p   2006-09-17 02:03:19.189136500 
+0200
@@ -742,6 +742,7 @@
   {A_(Crlbgr), 220, 700, SNYFR, SNYFR, },
   {A_(Fuebbzf), 630, 1300, SNYFR, SNYFR, },
   {A_(Fcrrq), 90, 250, SNYFR, GEHR, },
+  {A_(Ivnten), 30, 80, GEHR, SNYFR, },
   {A_(Jrrq), 315, 890, GEHR, SNYFR,
A_(Pbyhzovna servtugre qhfgrq gur Pbnfg Thneq! 
   Jrrq cevprf unir obggbzrq bhg!)}


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Re: ikiwiki running wiki.debian.org? (Re: RFC: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs))

2008-02-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Thursday 17 January 2008 10:08, Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Since when is wiki.d.o scheduled to be run by ikiwiki?

since the 25th of April 2006 ;)


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Holger


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Re: Use of our external site embedded into a Debian file

2007-09-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Friday 21 September 2007 07:41, Ben Finney wrote:
 [cc-ing John Nagle as context suggests he's not on this list. John, if
 you are subscribed, please say so and we'll stop cc-ing you.]

HAHA /nelson


regards,
Holger, who was tempted to cc: John on this one ;-)


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Re: bugs in packages not frequently used

2007-08-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Tuesday 28 August 2007 17:12, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
 You mean you prefer crappy bugreports?
 It's broken. Fix it!

At least those are easy to close. (cc: -done, it's not.)


regards,
Holger


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Re: Debian Packaging Handbook project

2007-08-15 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Wednesday 15 August 2007 13:00, martin f krafft wrote:
 ...though I can't really write much these days. But I am always
 up for a chat, live, on IRC, via Email, or on the phone.

No wonder you don't have time to write much ;-)


regards,
Holger


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Re: IPv6 in Debian

2007-07-31 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Tuesday 31 July 2007 00:57, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
   * Limited usefulnes of IPv6
  It is getting more and more common, and most of the world doesn't live
  in an ipv4 saturated country like those in Anglo North America and
  Europe.
 Ack. To put that into perspective - how big is that community in
 comparison?

I'd guess by the time lenny is released there will be 700 mio people living in 
north america and europe combined, while 7000 mio people in the rest of the 
world. And there will be even less ipv4 addresses to hand out.


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Holger


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Re: Archive signing key for 2007?

2007-03-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Joey,

On Monday 05 March 2007 20:15, Joey Hess wrote:
 This key, which does not expire, is an offline signing key that can be used
 indefinitly for point releases of etch.

Thanks for clarifying this, even if only on -curiosa! OTOH, -curiosa is 
subscribed by quite some people I think ;)


regards,
Holger


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Re: Archive signing key for 2007?

2007-03-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Friday 16 February 2007 07:50, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I see the Etch key is valid only until 01 July 2009, so after that date
  this _will_ be a problem. By then Etch should hopefully be oldstable,
  but having a working installer for oldstable is still a good thing...
 Lets put a Good before 01 July 2009 sticker on the cover art. :)

Excellent idea :-D


regards,
Holger


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Re: Debian Etch Stable.

2006-12-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Thursday 07 December 2006 14:32, João Henrique Furtado wrote:
 Hi, would like to know which day of December will be launched and version
 of the Debian Etch Stable.

 Tank's.

Wow. What a typo :)


regards,
Holger


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Re: OT: (maybe) Debian history

2006-09-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Monday 11 September 2006 17:57, martin f krafft wrote:
  Playing soccer.
 and Frisbee.

Ouch!


regards,
Holger


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spammers are worse than terrorists!!!!11 (Re: No more bugreports from me.)

2006-08-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Tuesday 15 August 2006 20:01, Paul Johnson wrote:
 http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful

OMSM - quoting from there: 

Dealing With Terrorism 

  To understand the reasoning behind this document, it is useful to know 
something about how spamming is akin to terrorist activity. 


Why ``Terrorism'' is an Appropriate Term 

  Terrorism is the practice of using fear to accomplish an objective, probably 
one that is unpopular. In general, this is best done by breaking the rules of 
society in such a way--such as hijacking passenger airplanes and planting 
bombs in busy metropolitan areas--that people will be motivated to give into 
the demands of the terrorist. 

Spamming, as well as other practices which can be more abstractly called 
``Internet abuse'', are similar to terrorism in that during the course of 
accomplishing their objectives--often making a lot of money with 
comparatively little work, the rules of society are broken.


So breakin' the rules of society is terrorism? We've come a long way...


regards,
Holger


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Re: Completely OT: any chinese speakers here?

2006-07-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Thursday 20 July 2006 14:46, martin f krafft wrote:
 http://lists.madduck.net/mailman/listinfo/debian-wisdom
 ... but it never took off.

Oh. I thought it did, as planet.debian.org :)


regards,
Holger


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Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.

2006-06-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Thursday 29 June 2006 14:10, Martin Baehr wrote:
 right. mutt supports a Mail-FollowUp-To: header, which tells recipients

that microsoftism! Mail-FollowUp-To: might work in mutt or outlook, but is no 
standard. use reply-to:!!!1


without regards,
holger


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Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.

2006-06-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Thursday 29 June 2006 16:15, Martin Baehr wrote:
 ps: fortunately mutt can be told to ignore reply-to that points to lists.

So it was you who intentionally decided to ignore the code of conduct of this 
list and put me in CC: ?!! 


regards,
Holger




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if you spot a bug, why dont you fix it, if you can??

2006-06-18 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Sunday 18 June 2006 14:06, Remo Giermann wrote:
  The subject is worded in a way that s not just out of place, it has no
  place.  IMO !

 Full-ACK...
 Nothing more to say...

even on curiosa... :)


regards,
Holger


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Re: if you spot a bug, why dont you fix it, if you can??

2006-06-18 Thread Holger Levsen
Hey,

On Sunday 18 June 2006 20:11, Adam Borowski wrote:
 Still, it's the original topic what's wrong, not the subject.

Point taken.


regards,
Holger :)


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Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Sunday 19 February 2006 04:15, Hubert Chan wrote:
 cat is software: (though I don't know what DNA or kittens have to do with
 anything)

cat is obsolete. please use dog instead.

Description: Enhanced replacement for cat
 dog writes the contents of each given file, URL or standard
 input to standard output. It currently supports file, http
 and raw URLs. It is designed as a compatible, but enhanced
 replacement for cat.


regards,
Holger


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