Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-12 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 04:49:52PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
 Neil McGovern dijo [Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:31:35PM +]:
   I have a half-written series to make it cope with lettered, rather
   than numbered, options.  Would it be worth my while finishing that off
   (in my CFT) ?
   
  
  I think that would probably be helpful, yes! Not only in the case where
  we get more than 9 options on the ballot, but I also think it would help
  clarify some of the voting options when you're ranking options.
 
 If we get a GR with more than 9 options, we need to change the
 *process*, not Devotee.
 

Or, see https://www.debian.org/vote/2007/vote_001 :)

Neil


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Re: The proper place to announce GRs (was Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?))

2014-10-14 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:14:59PM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
 On 13 October 2014 22:51, Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org wrote:
  On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 08:46:48PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
  On lun., 2014-10-13 at 19:30 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
   Unless I'm mistaken, a change to Constitution (to include a reference to 
   where
   GRs should be posted) would need to be achieved via GR.
  And where should that GR be announced?
 
  Good point. We can have a GR to decide where we announce GRs that decide
  where GRs are announced.
 
 
 I'd like to propose a GR to decide that.
 
 Option A. Main project discussion mailing list.
 Option B. Further discussion.
 

I'm proposing an amendment:
  Option C. No further discussion.

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Re: Forthcoming acceptance of a Cuban DD

2010-06-08 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 01:04:47AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
 Actually, the US is the only country in the world with such a
 ridiculous requirement. Prevent someone from becoming president if
 they happen not to hold US citizenship, sure. But because you weren't
 _born_ there? Come on!
 

Moving on to debian-curiosa@lists.debian.org;

Actually, it seems you may not need to be born in US territories;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States

*I* interperate the situation as being: As long as you are, at the
quanta of your birth, a citizen, you're a natural born citizen.

Mind you, I would say that :)

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Re: Switching /bin/sh to dash without dash essential

2009-07-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:34:01AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de (24/07/2009):
  Give me the freedom to choose.
 
 It looks like we just reached the “Linux is about choice” Goswin point.
 

Goswin's law:
As the length of a debian discussion increases, the chance of Goswin
mentioning that Linux is about choice tends towards 1.

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Re: Debian release versioning

2008-07-18 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 05:24:05AM +0200, Martin Bähr wrote:
 the effect on the user should also be taken into account.
 consider the recent ssl incident. may be the biggest quake[*] in debians
 history.
 

Hrm. I'd say the 'debian servers hacked' is possibly larger.

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Re: But mcgovern it quilt

2007-02-15 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 04:47:42PM +0800, Lilly Holloway wrote:
[originally to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 BULLISH REPORT..
 
 Lookup: UTEVCurrent: $0.012 Expected: Steadily climb for the top.
 
 SOMEBODY KNOWS SOMETHING (ENERGY PROGRESSIVE COMPANY!)!
 
 About the company:
 
 The nature of UTEV's main business is to commercialize
 environmentally-friendly technologies.UTEV's activities are oriented
 towards sustainable development which is highly appropriateconsidering
 that we have entered an era where clean energy and environment will
 most likely remain major issues.  Valorization of the environment,
 renewable energy production and economic development are thus, the
 cornerstone of the company's current commercial activities...
 
 See the hottest news of the UTEV, debian-security.
 

I resent the implication I make quilts! Kilts, possibly, but not quilts.

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Re: testing d-i Release Candidate 1 and more release adjustments

2006-11-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:57:52PM +1100, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 10:46:32PM +, Pigeon wrote:
  2) The term meat used to refer to food in general as opposed to
  specifically animal flesh, a usage which survives in the name
  mincemeat for the entirely vegetable-based filling in mince pies. So
  you can eat any old stuff, and then have some pudding. Or just eat
  some mince pies and do both in one.
 
 And here I thought the mince in mince pies was minced fruit rather
 than fruited mince.
 

Erm, not quite.

Mincemeat traditionally is meat, and is still made that way in the dark
'here be dragons' parts of the North of England (and I think in .au or
.nz too)

Recently, it's more likely made with suet, or even more common,
vegetarian suet.

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Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.

2006-06-29 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:49:46PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.28.1946 +0200]:
  [1] Meaning Enrico. Martin is not a DD and not even an NM, so
  obviously his opinion doesn't count.
 
 I am a DD, and you are so unhip I wonder why you bum hasn't fallen
 ^ ITYM your
 off yet, you clodhopping klunkerhead.
 

HTH, HAND etc,

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Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.

2006-06-29 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 10:50:45AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 09:14:48AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:49:46PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
   also sprach Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.28.1946 +0200]:
[1] Meaning Enrico. Martin is not a DD and not even an NM, so
obviously his opinion doesn't count.
   
   I am a DD, and you are so unhip I wonder why you bum hasn't fallen
   ^ ITYM your
 
 Hey man, this is rapper-english. Grammer don't count no.
 
  HTH, HAND etc,
 
 Dito.
 

You CC-ed me even though it's explicitly against list policy! I should
start an expultions proceedure against you!

Hyper-uber-Friendily,
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Re: Let's not drag this into another flame war please.

2006-06-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:21:31PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 11:50:06AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
  ...just to see what happens...
 
 NOTHING is happening! This is all UNREAL!
 
 And I am NOT going to follow UP!
 

Good, that Enrico bloke is a well known troll. He tries to prevent
anyone from doing any real work by introducing them to time-rootkits,
such as 'polygen' and 'atc'.

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Re: etch before vista

2006-03-26 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 12:43:59PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
 On Friday 24 March 2006 22:35, Sylvain Sauvage wrote:
  Vendredi 24 mars 2006, 12:43:46 CET, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit :
   A Mennucc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I hope we do manage to release in Dec 2005 (and I thank people who
 work hard to this end).
  
   Yes, that would be really cool.  Do we have any temporal engineers in
   Debian who can get to work on this right away?
  
   Actually, now that I think of it, we don't need to get to work on it
   right away.  We can just wait for the necessary technology, and then
   go back and release.
 
  If it would, etch should have been released by now. As it isn't the case,
  that means, either:
  1. we won't have the technology (sad);
  2. or noboby will use it to go back in time to release Etch earlier.
 
 3. we will have the technology, but time travel backwards branches of 
 parallel universes, and we just happen to still live in the original one 
 where the time tourists didn't arrive yet.
 

Different branches the universe? That's gonna create a nightmare for
backporting secuirty fixes.

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Re: undelivered discs

2006-02-21 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 05:00:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 i have not as yet received any discs and you have billed me 19.00.
  
 i want my money back and you can keep your videos
  
 this was supposed to be a free trial, not only am i completely dissatisfied
 wiyh your company but i want to cancel any agreement involved here and again i
 expect a full refund ASAP.
  
 i have never gotten any merchandise from you and don't want any in the future.
  
 please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello George,

I'm afraid I'm at a disadvantage here, as I don't know what disks you
are referring to. We certanily don't charge for any of our products,
they are distributed for free.

Debian is a free operating system (OS) for your computer. An operating
system is the set of basic programs and utilities that make your
computer run.

Could you provide any forther information as to your order, for example,
exactly what was ordered, and who it was ordered from?

Many thanks,
Neil McGovern
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Re: undelivered discs

2006-02-21 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 12:07:49AM +0100, Martin Bähr wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 05:00:40PM -0500, George Barquin wrote:
  i have not as yet received any discs and you have billed me 19.00.
  i want my money back and you can keep your videos
 
 all right, 
 who promised this chap a set of debian videos and didn't deliver?
 this is not really helping debians reputation.
 

Quite possibly no one, it could simply be that they fell for a scam.
BTW: accusing people of not delivering items which they promised isn't
very nice, especially if you don't have any evidence.

 btw: are those videos from the conference or is that intro material?
 if it is the latter i'd like to see them too.
 

Not suprisingly, I have no idea, as I don't know what the origianl
poster is talking about.

I've replied to them privately.

Regards,
Neil
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