Re: GR proposal: jessie+1 == zurg

2014-11-10 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Hubert Chathi said:
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 The Debian Project decides that the codename for Debian 9 shall be
 Debian X.
 
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Spot the off-by-one error.

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Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Goirand said:
 Truth is, in today's world, it is totally unrealistic to believe that
 just postfix is enough for setting up a mail system.

Of course not.  You want exim :).

SCNR,
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Re: Bug#523736: ITP: god -- Monitors various attributes of running processes and can start/restart/stop them under certain situations

2009-04-12 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Bernd Zeimetz said:
 
  * Package name: god
Description : Monitors various attributes of running processes and 
  can start/restart/stop them under certain situations
 
 Is that a fork of 'bible'?

Surely it's the parent process?
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Re: First call for Bananas for the Prevention of Releasees

2008-12-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Debian Secretary of the Project for Stupid Jokes 
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 B4na4na-nana-n4n4-7a7a-n4n4n4n4n4n4
 [ i ] Choice 1: I hate bananas
 [ ∞ ] Choice 2: You are bananas
 [ π ] Choice 3: Give More Bananas
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Re: Looking for co-maintainer for mercurial

2008-02-25 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Aaron M. Ucko said:
 [migrating to -curiosa]
 
 Julian Andres Klode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  BTW, I think that hg is now the only VCS package which is not maintained in 
  its
  own VCS format. (or are there other packages, too?)
 
 $ apt-cache showsrc rcs | grep Vcs
 Vcs-Browser: http://git.debian.org/?p=users/rfrancoise/rcs.git
 Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/git/users/rfrancoise/rcs.git

cvs is IIRC maintained in svn.
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Re: Bug#457318: ITP: qmail -- a secure, reliable, efficient, simple message transfer agent

2007-12-22 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Wouter Verhelst said:
 
 I'd agree that there are way better ones out there. But I'd also say
 that it doesn't really matter which is best, and that this type of
 behaviour is quite childish. As long as qmail is free, packaged
 properly, and integrates well with the rest of Debian, I don't see why
 anyone should oppose its packaging.
 
 Whether or not it's a good MTA, the fact is that it's a *popular* MTA.
 That alone should be a good reason to package it.

I don't agree with this, actually.  qmail is so poorly designed it can't
stay running without a supervisor, and in it's default state is a
giant producer of backscatter.  I believe Debian is about quality
software, not just popular software, and those two reasons alone are
sufficient for me to say qmail fails the quality test.

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Re: testing d-i Release Candidate 1 and more release adjustments

2006-11-16 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Amaya said:
 Steve Langasek wrote:
  You can't have pudding if you don't eat your meat
 
 What about us, vegetarians? 

You can't have your soy pudding unless you eat your wheat meat.
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Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-07 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Anthony DeRobertis said:
 Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
 
  For those keeping score at home, notice that doing the much larger
  task of upgrading GCC's version is apparently easier than python's.

 
 Of course, if you read a little further in the message to -announce,
 you'll see the part about oh, and maybe we broke 1600 packages, too.

Full ACK.

And it's also worth noting that the people interested in the transition
filed bugs with patches for all but a few of them, which involved a
massive amount of work.  I suppose it's possible people interested in
the python transition could do the same instead of complaining, but that
seems a bit much to ask, sadly.
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Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-07 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said:
 Actually, since the very same person sent the GCC 4.1 announcement,
 and is the maintainer of python-defaults...
 
 Since the python team have decided to leave the rest of us in the
 dark, all I can do is guess that the job of upgrading python is
 impossibly difficult, and the people involved are embarassed at that
 fact.

I don't remember seeing any posts from you about the progress of the
transition testing.  Have you gotten very far with it?  How much of the
python using archive have you rebuilt and/or tested?  I am sure python
people and the general devel readers would be interested in the results
of your efforts.

Thanks for your hard work on this.  After all, just rolling up your
sleeves and getting on with it instead of complaing is what makes the
free software community great, isn't it?
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Re: debian-gnome?

2003-02-12 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Rene Horn said:
 I was wondering why there isn't a debian-gnome mailing list.
 Occasionally, on the debian-kde mailing list, gnome user will send us
 a question and it seems a little out of place on that list.  Are there
 any plans or possibilities for such a list?  I can't see a reason that
 there isn't such a list already.  I would imagine that there are a lot
 of Debian-ites that use GNOME.

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Re: survival skills for teenage geeks

2003-01-25 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Vikki Roemer said:
 On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 02:21:47AM -0800, Alexander Hvostov wrote:
  on the console), and jEdit for longer, more involved editing (most
  notably, programming bigger than quick hacks).
 
 Hmm... Does that come as a Debian package?  I've looked for it and I
 can't find it.  I think it used to be one (IIRC), but I can't find it
 now. 

Is that Jed?  If so, yes.

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Re: debian-trivia

2003-01-17 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Julen Landa Alustiza said:
 Another question:
 
 Is there any version of nmap or another good port scanner that
 supports ipv6?

What's the matter with with nmap -6?

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Re: Report yourself to the BSA

2003-01-05 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Daniel Dent said:
  Just curious. I'm using 2.4.19 as well, due to several nasty bugs in
  .20.
 Pray tell, say more about these .20 bugs...
 .19 had bugs which made it unusable as an NFS server :(.

Data corruption with ext3 and a particular mode (not ordered, but I
can't remember which off the top of my head).

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