Re: Call for projects for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-03 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 03/03/2011 03:03 AM, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
If folks want to implement something similar for other
operating systems, the preferred mode of cooperation is
probably that we help you identify which interfaces can be
shared with your system, to make life easier for daemon
writers to support both systemd and your systemd counterpart.
Probably, the focus should be to share interfaces, not code.

Then it might be worth to have a project to identify these interfaces
and write some code to support systemd-aware daemons on (k)freebsd. For
systemd it definitely makes sense to use all the fancy linux APIs - but
it should still be possible to write a proper replacement for freebsd.

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Re: Call for projects for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 10.43:44 Ana Guerrero wrote:

 Debian is applying as mentoring organization to the Google Summer of Code
 (GSoC) this year

Dealing with the init scripts / service enable / disable mess. See current 
d-devel discussion.

As much a discussion / social skills project as a coding project, so I'm not 
sure if GSoC is the right place.

Or do it as a pure coding project, implement a proper set of tools, but then 
it's a question if it will be adopted into Debian in the end, which would 
mean wasted effort.

(And please don't start discussion of the actual problem here, there's the 
other thread for this...)

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Re: Call for projects for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 03/02/2011 01:57 PM, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
 On Wednesday 02 March 2011 10.43:44 Ana Guerrero wrote:
 
 Debian is applying as mentoring organization to the Google Summer of Code
 (GSoC) this year
 
 Dealing with the init scripts / service enable / disable mess. See current 
 d-devel discussion.

What about a project which prepares a migration to
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd ?



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Re: Call for projects for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de (02/03/2011):
 What about a project which prepares a migration to
 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd ?

yay for portability.

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Re: Call for projects for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 02 mars 2011 à 14:19 +0100, Cyril Brulebois a écrit : 
 Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de (02/03/2011):
  What about a project which prepares a migration to
  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd ?
 
 yay for portability.

What about a project to port systemd to kfreebsd ? :)

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Re: Call for projects for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:

 What about a project to port systemd to kfreebsd ? :)

That is unlikely to be useful, upstream has explicitly said they are
targeting Linux only.

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Re: Call for projects for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Paul Wise wrote:

 That is unlikely to be useful, upstream has explicitly said they are
 targeting Linux only.

More precisely[1]:

Will this run on [insert non-Linux OS here]?

 Unlikely. As pointed out, systemd uses many Linux specific
 APIs […] That said, git supports branches and rebasing quite
 well, in case people really want to do a port.

 […]

 If folks want to implement something similar for other
 operating systems, the preferred mode of cooperation is
 probably that we help you identify which interfaces can be
 shared with your system, to make life easier for daemon
 writers to support both systemd and your systemd counterpart.
 Probably, the focus should be to share interfaces, not code.

So upstream does seem to be interested in cooperating with developers
for other platforms, though not in maintaining the resulting code.

For what it's worth.
Jonathan

[1] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html


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