Re: Debian testing - uninstallable packages

2001-09-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Andrew M. Bishop wrote:
 [ I sent this to debian-testing a month ago, but the mailing list   ]
 [ doesn't exist anymore - it is not archived at http://list.debian.org/ ]
 [ If there is a more appropriate list for this discussion let me know.  ]

The list does exist.  For some reason it wasn't archived anymore, which
I had changed recently.  Check out 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing-0109/.

Regards,

Joey

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Debian testing - uninstallable packages

2001-09-16 Thread Andrew M. Bishop
[ I sent this to debian-testing a month ago, but the mailing list   ]
[ doesn't exist anymore - it is not archived at http://list.debian.org/ ]
[ If there is a more appropriate list for this discussion let me know.  ]

The debian FAQ (/usr/share/debian/FAQ) says the following:

: Packages are installed into the `testing' directory after they have undergone
: some degree of testing in unstable.  They must be in sync on all architectures
: where they have been built and mustn't have dependencies that make them
: uninstallable; they also have to have fewer release-critical bugs than the
: versions currently in testing.  This way, we hope that `testing' is always
: close to being a release candidate.

I have seen a problem with two packages that I wanted to install from
testing not being installable.  These were gnumeric and gnucash, so I
raised bug reports about them - currently unanswered.

I realise that there may be other packages that are also
uninstallable, so I wrote a script that parses /var/lib/dpkg/available
and lists those packages that have unmet dependencies, recommendations
or suggestions for packages that are not available.  The script only
checks the package names, not the version numbers, so they may be more
problems.

The list below was compiled from the current status of debian testing
as found in the following sources.list today.

 sources.list 
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody main
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody contrib
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody non-free
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody non-US/main
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody non-US/contrib
deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian woody non-US/non-free
 sources.list 


Package  RelationDependency (not available)
---  --

glcpudepends on  libcommonc++1

gnucash  depends on  libguile9
gnucash  depends on  guile1.4
gnucash  depends on  guile1.4-slib
gnucash  depends on  libgwrapguile0

gnumeric depends on  libgal4

mozilla  depends on  mozilla-browser
mozilla  depends on  mozilla-mailnews

roxen-ssldepends on  pike-crypto

sphinx2-bin  depends on  sphinx2-hmm-6k


Package  RelationRecommendation (not available)
---  --

alamin-serverrecommends  gnokii

bibletimerecommends  sword-dict
bibletimerecommends  sword-comm

cdrecord recommends  mkisofs

cjk-latexrecommends  freetype1-tools

guile1.4-doc recommends  guile1.4

ibcs-source-2.0  recommends  kernel-source-2.0.36 | 
kernel-source-2.0.38

kernel-patch-2.4.0-ia64  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.0

kernel-patch-2.4.1-ia64  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.1

kernel-patch-2.4.3-arm   recommends  kernel-source-2.4.3

kernel-patch-2.4.4-ia64  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.4

kernel-patch-2.4.5-ia64  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.5

kernel-patch-2.4.5-s390  recommends  kernel-source-2.4.5

mozilla  recommends  mozilla-psm

pipsecd  recommends  userlink

quickppp recommends  pppd

tpctlrecommends  tpctl-modules

unp  recommends  unace

webmin-ssl   recommends  webmin-core

zope-pagetemplates   recommends  zope-parsedxml


Package  RelationSuggestion (not available)
---  --

alsa-basesuggestsalsadriver

alsa-utils   suggestsalsadriver

alsa-utils-0.4   suggestsalsadriver

alsa-utils-0.5   suggestsalsadriver

ant  suggestsjmf

aolserversuggestsaolserver-postgres
aolserversuggestsopenacs

atoolsuggestsbzip

cbedic   suggestskbedic

cdrtoaster   suggestsmkisofs

cpuburn  suggestskernel-patch-badram

crafty   suggestscraftywatcher

cupsys-clientsuggestskdelibs3-cups

cvsbook  suggestscvs-doc

cxterm-gbsuggestsintlfonts-chinese

cxterm-jis   suggestsintlfonts-japanese

dhelp   

Re: Debian testing - uninstallable packages

2001-09-16 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:15:45PM +0100, Andrew M. Bishop wrote:
 [ I sent this to debian-testing a month ago, but the mailing list   ]
 [ doesn't exist anymore - it is not archived at http://list.debian.org/ ]

Actually, the list still exists, and is available at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/. Not sure why it doesn't seem to be
listed amongst all the other mailing lists.

 I have seen a problem with two packages that I wanted to install from
 testing not being installable.  These were gnumeric and gnucash, so I
 raised bug reports about them - currently unanswered.

Right. There're a few packages that aren't installable in woody. There're
also a number that're out of sync, or that have RC bugs, or whatever. It's
not perfect, and it shouldn't really be expected to be.

FWIW, there're accurate lists of uninstallable packages (which does take into
account versions and conflicts, but ignores recommends and suggests) at
http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/.

Cheers,
aj

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