Re: Debtags: understanding the heuristics of "Checks and hints" in the online editor

2024-01-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Paul Wise (2024-01-21 06:51:08)
> On Sat, 2024-01-20 at 09:40 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> 
> > I am (very) willing to act as service maintainer.
> 
> Please get in touch with the debtags team about this.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebTags
> https://salsa.debian.org/groups/debtags-team/-/group_members
> 
> > I have interest myself in continued use of debtags, but don't have C++
> > coding skills needed to work intimately on the programming parts of the
> > project.
> 
> It does not seem to use C++, just Python/Shell/HTML/CSS/JavaScript:
> 
> https://salsa.debian.org/debtags-team/debtagsd/-/graphs/master/charts
> https://salsa.debian.org/debtags-team/debtags-vocabulary/-/graphs/master/charts
> https://salsa.debian.org/debtags-team/debtags-tagdb/-/graphs/master/charts
> https://salsa.debian.org/debtags-team/debtags-tools/-/graphs/master/charts

Thanks - I am not comfortable with Python either, but that's certainly
less scary to me.


> You may be thinking of libept, which got adopted by the apt team.

It was a mixture of thinking of goplay (see bug#930676) and reducing
"languages I am not fluent in" to "C++".


> In case you want collaborators, 5 people forked debtags git repos:
> 
> https://salsa.debian.org/search?search=debtag
> 
> Additionally apt-xapian-index needs a maintainer and the debtags
> package needs to be updated from the debtags-tools git repository.
> 
> Some of the debtags related wiki pages may need to be updated:
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/?action=fullsearch=180=debtag=Titles

Thanks a lot!

 - Jonas

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Re: Debtags: understanding the heuristics of "Checks and hints" in the online editor

2024-01-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2024-01-20 at 09:40 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

> I am (very) willing to act as service maintainer.

Please get in touch with the debtags team about this.

https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebTags
https://salsa.debian.org/groups/debtags-team/-/group_members

> I have interest myself in continued use of debtags, but don't have C++
> coding skills needed to work intimately on the programming parts of the
> project.

It does not seem to use C++, just Python/Shell/HTML/CSS/JavaScript:

https://salsa.debian.org/debtags-team/debtagsd/-/graphs/master/charts
https://salsa.debian.org/debtags-team/debtags-vocabulary/-/graphs/master/charts
https://salsa.debian.org/debtags-team/debtags-tagdb/-/graphs/master/charts
https://salsa.debian.org/debtags-team/debtags-tools/-/graphs/master/charts

You may be thinking of libept, which got adopted by the apt team.

In case you want collaborators, 5 people forked debtags git repos:

https://salsa.debian.org/search?search=debtag

Additionally apt-xapian-index needs a maintainer and the debtags
package needs to be updated from the debtags-tools git repository.

Some of the debtags related wiki pages may need to be updated:

https://wiki.debian.org/?action=fullsearch=180=debtag=Titles

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pabs

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Re: Debtags: understanding the heuristics of "Checks and hints" in the online editor

2024-01-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Paul Wise (2024-01-20 07:32:14)
> On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 18:24 +0100, André Maroneze wrote:
> 
> > I want to use debtags metadata for a research project
> 
> The debtags service is planned to be shutdown and the data no longer
> published, as there is no-one in Debian who wants to maintain it.
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20231126160111.7nr56b7oje6uw...@enricozini.org
> 
> > I started contributing, by adding and removing some tags using the
> > online tag editor, but the "Checks and hints" part seems wrong to me
> > in several cases.
> 
> Sounds like there may be bugs that need fixing, but first there would
> need to be a new maintainer who could take over the project. If you
> were willing to be the primary code maintainer, perhaps you could find
> some Debian member willing to be the service maintainers and review and
> deploy all of the changes you could make, at least until you become a
> Debian member on the basis of your debtags and other contributions.

I am (very) willing to act as service maintainer.

I have interest myself in continued use of debtags, but don't have C++
coding skills needed to work intimately on the programming parts of the
project.


 - Jonas

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Re: Debtags: understanding the heuristics of "Checks and hints" in the online editor

2024-01-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 18:24 +0100, André Maroneze wrote:

> I want to use debtags metadata for a research project

The debtags service is planned to be shutdown and the data no longer
published, as there is no-one in Debian who wants to maintain it.

https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20231126160111.7nr56b7oje6uw...@enricozini.org

> I started contributing, by adding and removing some tags using the
> online tag editor, but the "Checks and hints" part seems wrong to me
> in several cases.

Sounds like there may be bugs that need fixing, but first there would
need to be a new maintainer who could take over the project. If you
were willing to be the primary code maintainer, perhaps you could find
some Debian member willing to be the service maintainers and review and
deploy all of the changes you could make, at least until you become a
Debian member on the basis of your debtags and other contributions.

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pabs

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Debtags: understanding the heuristics of "Checks and hints" in the online editor

2024-01-19 Thread André Maroneze

Hi,

I want to use debtags metadata for a research project, but I'll need to 
improve it to get good results (I'll use it for thousands of packages).


I started contributing, by adding and removing some tags using the 
online tag editor, but the "Checks and hints" part seems wrong to me in 
several cases.


For instance,with package alsamixergui: I downloaded the source code, 
and it contains exclusively C++ sources and headers. I don't see a 
single C source nor header.


However, the package has the tag "implemented-in::C". And if I replace 
it with "implemented-in::C++", the "Checks and hints" part of the tag 
editor still claims: "There is a 100% chance that the tag 
implemented-in::C is missing".


So, either I misunderstood its meaning, or there is an issue with the 
heuristics. Could someone please clarify it to me?



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