Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
Hi, On 2020-12-02 2:35 a.m., Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 13:45 -0500, Mark Pearson wrote: I've started chasing this directly myself, but last week was crazy busy. I have the owner of a number of S and Central America countries looking into it - I need to go chase some others. Sorry - really slow going :( Hi Mark, I hope a monthly ping is ok for you. Did you have a chance to talk to EU geos people? Regards, > I didand I have some good news on the Europe portal front coming really soon. They are setting it up and I'm just waiting for confirmation of it being done. I'm hoping I can confirm next week but it is busy season for the folks who work on this though so I can't make promises. I'm still having headaches actually getting Linux systems up in Europe, but I'm making (sadly slow) progress there. They tried to get the first systems up and hit same internal rule/configuration issues that have to be fixed first. That's a long process with getting approvals to change the rules (that was supposed to be fixed when we did the systems in the US but turns out was not done correctly...sigh). My hair is getting both pulled out and greyer.which is not a good combo. Still - there is forward progress there too :) Mark
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 13:45 -0500, Mark Pearson wrote: > I've started chasing this directly myself, but last week was crazy busy. > I have the owner of a number of S and Central America countries looking > into it - I need to go chase some others. > Sorry - really slow going :( Hi Mark, I hope a monthly ping is ok for you. Did you have a chance to talk to EU geos people? Regards, - -- Yves-Alexis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE8vi34Qgfo83x35gF3rYcyPpXRFsFAl/HQ7AACgkQ3rYcyPpX RFvvFAgA0TUoJRfJ7v+KlhCSOtXB0Kzp0b1Yr+dmEngejNjBR2wOF9ttEbAeAVpI 5nEYDKSs6KgoqABUNG8+CIxkSnH3o1O9lwApLJ5xTqUakso9JAQpW9Z3eMSeB9Hf K3kSSui+SJM3SAxEzFQS7vHPNKpa1ckbgi9u+xDO3C3ObOOiXFkapsYJdUtI4f6i wrBikX9GzMOskG/E5OSdI3fcUFih5/E5km74/lA8pLYtIJDXWVqsDqKFyHh8VCI3 DHPsFWfmbiELbqasFyhLdWA7F/g56tmdM/tqzWHDgOFQHkj+NVeQ/N1iFIf/Xgsr xXAdwRoPZjQ8cqqBHJJfVxlYms7VRw== =eT6s -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 13:45 -0500, Mark Pearson wrote: > I've started chasing this directly myself, but last week was crazy busy. > I have the owner of a number of S and Central America countries looking > into it - I need to go chase some others. > Sorry - really slow going :( Thanks! I'm personnaly more interested in EU/FR geo, but thanks anyway :) Regards, - -- Yves-Alexis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE8vi34Qgfo83x35gF3rYcyPpXRFsFAl+i+JQACgkQ3rYcyPpX RFtGYAf/ZN2b6nZcM+Sb11Vm0VbdPtmbK9hdW2wBI7a1aFagDJyejCDNhUe0TGol Uoxdmu4jD8EAbpyULJerKr0Mwhayr1ekJB9suP9ZMIak2HuNkmkp6klvjPU255pz AEnbxBA4QGTT/FYWbgkTQaEzQcNBW7kRzGwoVQJzRtDr95yG6eun4MndES5tfcJ9 PK48Ha9vi2CEXUPwAgZNf1nyWzeYMJap3fdsWf/uSkvaEB0HN31MtgSeityqL7rf zEYgcNqyJoqr5i0OXArOEKCQqVIFLgVAshzKGK7SUjrAyuSDA26bN7yQ0LM5oKmS pnEhEd3qCv2s+Lt2TBu4708Mi9Oplw== =kcm/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
Hi, On 04/11/2020 13:00, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 11:12 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos? Hi Mark, I might have missed it, but did your daily poking of your collegues gave results on the others geos? Thanks! > I've started chasing this directly myself, but last week was crazy busy. I have the owner of a number of S and Central America countries looking into it - I need to go chase some others. Sorry - really slow going :( Mark
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 11:12 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos? Hi Mark, I might have missed it, but did your daily poking of your collegues gave results on the others geos? Thanks! - -- Yves-Alexis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE8vi34Qgfo83x35gF3rYcyPpXRFsFAl+i7C8ACgkQ3rYcyPpX RFtgZAgAoEEfTPawnMK7u16I8h7SXODl/496tmCtjeUSgtMZdON0c5YNYNPsbV0O JX5oFuEM6CFu6BX5mTRIXm6cXzqlu9my5Mu338aGbMi8lRpEnDeO9d0a6CPjiE6P 12DXqhkHU/x3EZdmn+McXmVNUR6R10bplqU9s+SkeRLiowlN4pauOWOe4IT5who7 jaXc2Ugty9EVPopsHTcu6tA4ZllNFqlAFc3YIf1BTZm/AT/DZ8BbYBIiBc/ddC3e Uuf78WpiekToE5kpvGUtaAuuudjabOovUflYIdTvCQ9RiEr41Snx7VrcgbRVYMJD LIUpZbTktyUsvJ/622CvdyzPFnJsJA== =ls85 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 19/10/2020 01:56, Mike Gabriel wrote: Hi Mark, On Fr 18 Sep 2020 15:06:00 CEST, Mark Pearson wrote: On 9/17/2020 5:12 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not available yet I'm afraid. Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more? Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the geo teams to some extent. The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing the others down so I'll check with him what the status is. Hi Mark, did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos? Regards, - -- Yves-Alexis Sorry - no update yet. I'll keep pushing Mark Gentle/monthly reminder to poke the colleague(s) again(?). Thanks+Greets, Mike He is getting (almost) daily nags on this one :) Mark
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
Hi Mark, On Fr 18 Sep 2020 15:06:00 CEST, Mark Pearson wrote: On 9/17/2020 5:12 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not available yet I'm afraid. Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more? Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the geo teams to some extent. The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing the others down so I'll check with him what the status is. Hi Mark, did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos? Regards, - -- Yves-Alexis Sorry - no update yet. I'll keep pushing Mark Gentle/monthly reminder to poke the colleague(s) again(?). Thanks+Greets, Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM c\o Technik- und Ökologiezentrum Eckernförde Mike Gabriel, Marienthaler Str. 17, 24340 Eckernförde mobile: +49 (1520) 1976 148 landline: +49 (4351) 850 8940 GnuPG Fingerprint: 9BFB AEE8 6C0A A5FF BF22 0782 9AF4 6B30 2577 1B31 mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de pgp62GRgkye_s.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 9/17/2020 5:12 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not available yet I'm afraid. Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more? Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the geo teams to some extent. The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing the others down so I'll check with him what the status is. Hi Mark, did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos? Regards, - -- Yves-Alexis Sorry - no update yet. I'll keep pushing Mark
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
Hi all El 3/9/20 a las 3:18, Paul Wise escribió: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:22 PM Mark Pearson wrote: > >> Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) >> the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: > > Thanks for your generosity here! > > This announcement seems suitable for inclusion on these wiki pages. > You will need to register an account in order to edit them, if you > don't have one already. Inclusion on the latter means the announcement > will eventually go out to the debian-devel-announce mailing list. > > https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits > https://wiki.debian.org/DeveloperNews > I have updated the 2 wiki pages above, including the info and links about the current discount (for US and Canada). I'll keep an eye on this thread to know if/when it applies to more regions, updating the wiki pages, if needed. Kind regards, -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: > On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > > We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not > > > available yet I'm afraid. > > > > Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more? > Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the > geo teams to some extent. > The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first > oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing > the others down so I'll check with him what the status is. Hi Mark, did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos? Regards, - -- Yves-Alexis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE8vi34Qgfo83x35gF3rYcyPpXRFsFAl9jKHMACgkQ3rYcyPpX RFtopAf+KUt38VYwcbNjZ2dY3QB0r8emGSjxFqMwkxmf3f7YwQajrzxGB7wRvhOd C69WQAdppNhiyovlBSU950p1XFQRUjfyg68zRo6X1BSUnjvNKQmAVd8ZaKnmZNp/ ZEV8Vc1+bV6tvVowArdv24E19CMwbIa2Wtabgg9btu/pwNLal4dahNNIZEWo7SgS qSHNlIZaykgaHtXs8tyBUfQbTY3pBjH4NW4P49feXbHOoFS179igDkFXbo7ot9eB 1clOtkJOMlgEUztleJS5u7rFt9AASFbhhfc42BSkPVY2iBKxGpXl0iu83Qy/r6t7 58Y+wWo0RtzNXeDGkZYrnys6rxXfTQ== =au9y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:40:25AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 11, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > A DD should be able to enable the mail account and configure procmail > > (or $preferred_other_way) to reject all mails but those from lenovo. > This would be bad for the server, since it would create backscatter. Indeed. Please accept and drop. -- Luca Filipozzi signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On Sep 11, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > I think its a bit harsh to ask for other ways of authentication. Maybe it is. > A DD should be able to enable the mail account and configure procmail > (or $preferred_other_way) to reject all mails but those from lenovo. This would be bad for the server, since it would create backscatter. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 2020-09-03 00:11, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Sep 02, Mark Pearson wrote: You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address to get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any problems. This is great news, even if I do not live in the USA so this is not relevant for me at this time. But you should be aware that not all developers choose to enable their debian.org email address, so given time it would be useful to have an alternative authorization method. I think its a bit harsh to ask for other ways of authentication. A DD should be able to enable the mail account and configure procmail (or $preferred_other_way) to reject all mails but those from lenovo. -- Bernd ZeimetzDebian GNU/Linux Developer http://bzed.dehttp://www.debian.org GPG Fingerprint: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 2020/09/04 11:23, Philip Rinn wrote: >> Why do we need to make this 100% accurate in the first place? Everyone >> who got access to a debian.org email address has been an OSS contributor >> of sorts. Which leaves those who opted out of the email address entirely >> (rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It >> feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO. > > Well, DMs don't have debian.org email addresses. The benefit is currently just for DDs. Maybe that could change in the future, but that is how it is now. For people who don't usually use their debian.org addresses, it seems like a small issue? All they need to do is temporarily enable the forwarder to their usual address in db.debian.org, so no big deal? -Jonathan -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org ⠈⠳⣄ Debian, the universal operating system.
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 04.09.20 11:23, Philip Rinn wrote: >> Why do we need to make this 100% accurate in the first place? Everyone >> who got access to a debian.org email address has been an OSS contributor >> of sorts. Which leaves those who opted out of the email address entirely >> (rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It >> feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO. > > Well, DMs don't have debian.org email addresses. Sure, but I'd expect that state to be temporary, no? Kind regards Philipp Kern
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
> Why do we need to make this 100% accurate in the first place? Everyone > who got access to a debian.org email address has been an OSS contributor > of sorts. Which leaves those who opted out of the email address entirely > (rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It > feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO. Well, DMs don't have debian.org email addresses. Best Philip
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 04.09.20 03:39, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, 2020-09-03 at 15:18 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: > >> For DSA - I'm assuming all role addresses have members behind it with >> debian addresses? "Please don't register on the portal with role >> addresses" would seem a sensible guideline to me. > > I just took a look at the aliases repo and most of them are solely > Debian members but some have folks who are not yet Debian members and > at least one has no Debian members on it. > >> If there is a group missing that it makes sense to add we can look at >> that - let me know. Using the debian.org email as a filter seemed like a >> neat and simple solution when I discussed it with Jonathan originally. >> I'd rather avoid having to manage lists of individual email addresses. >> That's a real pain and IMO will only break in the long term. >> Open to other suggestions if what we have implemented doesn't work but >> it has to be balanced with the amount of effort involved. > > If you are able to regularly automatically load and process a file, > there is one containing a list of Debian Maintainers, including an > email address that they use in their Debian work. IIRC this list is > regularly pruned by Debian when folks stop contributing. Probably > updating your copy of it daily would be regular enough. Why do we need to make this 100% accurate in the first place? Everyone who got access to a debian.org email address has been an OSS contributor of sorts. Which leaves those who opted out of the email address entirely (rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO. Kind regards Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On Thu, 2020-09-03 at 15:18 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: > For DSA - I'm assuming all role addresses have members behind it with > debian addresses? "Please don't register on the portal with role > addresses" would seem a sensible guideline to me. I just took a look at the aliases repo and most of them are solely Debian members but some have folks who are not yet Debian members and at least one has no Debian members on it. > If there is a group missing that it makes sense to add we can look at > that - let me know. Using the debian.org email as a filter seemed like a > neat and simple solution when I discussed it with Jonathan originally. > I'd rather avoid having to manage lists of individual email addresses. > That's a real pain and IMO will only break in the long term. > Open to other suggestions if what we have implemented doesn't work but > it has to be balanced with the amount of effort involved. If you are able to regularly automatically load and process a file, there is one containing a list of Debian Maintainers, including an email address that they use in their Debian work. IIRC this list is regularly pruned by Debian when folks stop contributing. Probably updating your copy of it daily would be regular enough. https://ftp-master.debian.org/#debianmaintainers https://ftp-master.debian.org/dm.txt -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 03:18:21PM -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: > On 9/2/2020 9:18 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > Many of the Debian membership benefits (link above) also apply to > > Debian Maintainers (folks who are not members but can do unsupervised > > uploads of particular packages) and Debian contributors in general, > > has Lenovo considered including one or both of these groups in the > > discount program? > > If there is a group missing that it makes sense to add we can look at that - > let me know. Using the debian.org email as a filter seemed like a neat and > simple solution when I discussed it with Jonathan originally. > I'd rather avoid having to manage lists of individual email addresses. > That's a real pain and IMO will only break in the long term. > Open to other suggestions if what we have implemented doesn't work but it > has to be balanced with the amount of effort involved. Oooh, as one of the 246 Debian Maintainers without a debian.org address, I would obviously appreciate it if we could be included in the offer. Some of the MemberBenefits offers accept a GPG-signed email to a special address, which can be checked against keyring.debian.org. On the other hand, I believe that would exclude Contributors such as translators, perhaps the FrontDesk team would have an idea of how a third-party could verify project status by email validity? https://nm.debian.org/public/stats/ https://nm.debian.org/public/findperson/?status=dm (uses /api/people/) https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/FrontDesk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
Hi Paul, On 9/2/2020 9:18 PM, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:22 PM Mark Pearson wrote: Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: Thanks for your generosity here! This announcement seems suitable for inclusion on these wiki pages. You will need to register an account in order to edit them, if you don't have one already. Inclusion on the latter means the announcement will eventually go out to the debian-devel-announce mailing list. https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits https://wiki.debian.org/DeveloperNews You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address to get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any problems. I note that some debian.org email addresses are guest accounts for contributors who are not Debian members (although we do ask that they don't use these addresses) and some are role addresses (for example d...@debian.org corresponds to the Debian sysadmin team (DSA)) and some of those teams may have recipients who are not yet Debian members. I suspect we can blacklist email addresses if the need arises and if we see something being abused that will likely be what happens. My recommendation is consider your community when using the portal... For DSA - I'm assuming all role addresses have members behind it with debian addresses? "Please don't register on the portal with role addresses" would seem a sensible guideline to me. Does the acceptance of role addresses mean for example that DSA could buy discounted servers from Lenovo? We have received very favourable quotes for servers from the local Austrian and Greek Lenovo offices and turning that into a standard discount that does not require country-by-country conversations with the local Lenovo offices would be very helpful. I'm not sure to be honest - check and see how it compares and choose whichever saves you the most money? I don't get any say in what the discounts are I'm afraid. If you're talking to sales staff maybe they can get you a better deal as they'll have more tools at their disposal? Many of the Debian membership benefits (link above) also apply to Debian Maintainers (folks who are not members but can do unsupervised uploads of particular packages) and Debian contributors in general, has Lenovo considered including one or both of these groups in the discount program? If there is a group missing that it makes sense to add we can look at that - let me know. Using the debian.org email as a filter seemed like a neat and simple solution when I discussed it with Jonathan originally. I'd rather avoid having to manage lists of individual email addresses. That's a real pain and IMO will only break in the long term. Open to other suggestions if what we have implemented doesn't work but it has to be balanced with the amount of effort involved. Mark
Re: Lenovo and forced labor [was: Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)]
Hi, Quoting Tomas Pospisek (2020-09-03 10:47:06) > I think before jumping on this offer, one should consider this: > https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale I think this is an important aspect to consider. Thanks a lot for bringing it up! Just as when we buy clothing or food, we often do not consider the circumstances in which our consumer electronics were produced. Quoting jathan (2020-09-03 16:45:56) > If you need a laptop and do not want to buy a new one from Lenovo, I suggest > to you to buy a Librem 14 or 15 of Purism: > https://puri.sm/products/librem-14/ Purism has this on their homepage: https://puri.sm/about/manufacturing-and-sourcing/ > And as another option you could buy a used Lenovo ThinkPad laptop in good > conditions from someone in Internet, That's what I have been doing. My last Lenovo Laptops have costed me 150 EUR off ebay and I see no reason anymore to buy my personal hardware new instead of used or refurbished. As we are now talking about alternatives, there is also the MNT Reform Laptop which might be especially interesting for people who are into libre hard- and software: https://mntre.com/reform/ Thanks! cheers, josch signature.asc Description: signature
Re: Lenovo and forced labor [was: Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)]
On 03/09/2020 03:47, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > On 02.09.20 15:08, Mark Pearson wrote: >> Hi Debian developers, >> >> Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) >> the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: >> >> US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux >> Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca > > I think before jumping on this offer, one should consider this: > https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale > > Lenovo is by far not the only company producing laptops with forced > labor involved, however they have not - as of today - as far as I can > see - cared to comment on those report at all: > > * they have neither denied nor ack'ed it > * and they haven't said either that they'd no longer use forced labor to > produce their wares > > I'd conclude from that, that Lenovo still is, will be, and is not > planing to stop using forced labor to produce those laptops. > > I'm not sure there are alternatives: I have not researched them > intensively yet - I am currently in need of a new laptop too, so I'll > have to look around whether there are other brands that do not rely on > companies that employ forced labor. Pointers welcome. > *t > Hi Tomas, If you need a laptop and do not want to buy a new one from Lenovo, I suggest to you to buy a Librem 14 or 15 of Purism: https://puri.sm/products/librem-14/ And as another option you could buy a used Lenovo ThinkPad laptop in good conditions from someone in Internet, Best regards Jathan -- Por favor evita enviarme adjuntos en formato de word o powerpoint, si quieres saber porque lee esto: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html ¡Cámbiate a GNU/Linux! http://getgnulinux.org/es signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Lenovo and forced labor [was: Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)]
Quoting Domenico Andreoli (2020-09-03 15:31:32) > On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 10:47:06AM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > > On 02.09.20 15:08, Mark Pearson wrote: > > > Hi Debian developers, > > > > > > Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) > > > the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: > > > > > > US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux > > > Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca > > > > I think before jumping on this offer, one should consider this: > > https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale > > > > Lenovo is by far not the only company producing laptops with forced > > labor involved, however they have not - as of today - as far as I can > > see - cared to comment on those report at all: > > > > * they have neither denied nor ack'ed it > > * and they haven't said either that they'd no longer use forced labor to > > produce their wares > > > > I'd conclude from that, that Lenovo still is, will be, and is not > > planing to stop using forced labor to produce those laptops. > > > > I'm not sure there are alternatives: I have not researched them > > intensively yet - I am currently in need of a new laptop too, so I'll > > have to look around whether there are other brands that do not rely on > > companies that employ forced labor. Pointers welcome. > > You may want to consider System76 [0] and Purism [1]. > > They are not in the force labor lists pointed in this thread, maybe > they are ethically better than the others. > > Dom > > [0] https://system76.com > [1] https://puri.sm I agree¹ that those are great options to consider, but beware that companies *not* appearing in such lists might simply be too small for investigative journalists to scrutinize their full supply chain. - Jonas ¹ full disclosure: I am paid by Purism for some of my Debian work -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature
Re: Lenovo and forced labor [was: Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)]
On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 10:47:06AM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > On 02.09.20 15:08, Mark Pearson wrote: > > Hi Debian developers, > > > > Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) > > the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: > > > > US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux > > Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca > > I think before jumping on this offer, one should consider this: > https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale > > Lenovo is by far not the only company producing laptops with forced > labor involved, however they have not - as of today - as far as I can > see - cared to comment on those report at all: > > * they have neither denied nor ack'ed it > * and they haven't said either that they'd no longer use forced labor to > produce their wares > > I'd conclude from that, that Lenovo still is, will be, and is not > planing to stop using forced labor to produce those laptops. > > I'm not sure there are alternatives: I have not researched them > intensively yet - I am currently in need of a new laptop too, so I'll > have to look around whether there are other brands that do not rely on > companies that employ forced labor. Pointers welcome. You may want to consider System76 [0] and Purism [1]. They are not in the force labor lists pointed in this thread, maybe they are ethically better than the others. Dom [0] https://system76.com [1] https://puri.sm -- rsa4096: 3B10 0CA1 8674 ACBA B4FE FCD2 CE5B CF17 9960 DE13 ed25519: FFB4 0CC3 7F2E 091D F7DA 356E CC79 2832 ED38 CB05 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Lenovo and forced labor [was: Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)]
On 03.09.20 11:05, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 10:47:06AM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote: >> I think before jumping on this offer, one should consider this: >> https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale > The list of brands from the article: Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, > Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, > Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter’s, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, > CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, > Geely Auto, General Motors, Google, Goertek, H, Haier, Hart Schaffner > Marx, Hisense, Hitachi, HP, HTC, Huawei, iFlyTek, Jack & Jones, Jaguar, > Japan Display Inc., L.L.Bean, Lacoste, Land Rover, Lenovo, LG, Li-Ning, > Mayor, Meizu, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Mitsumi, Nike, > Nintendo, Nokia, Oculus, Oppo, Panasonic, Polo Ralph Lauren, Puma, Roewe, > SAIC Motor, Samsung, SGMW, Sharp, Siemens, Skechers, Sony, TDK, Tommy > Hilfiger, Toshiba, Tsinghua Tongfang, Uniqlo, Victoria’s Secret, Vivo, > Volkswagen, Xiaomi, Zara, Zegna, ZTE. > > So it looks like this is not specific to Lenovo or laptops (just like the > "I'm not sure there are alternatives" part). A bit more (although not a lot more) info specific to Lenovo: https://theintercept.com/2020/08/21/school-laptops-lenovo-chromebooks-china-uyghur/
Re: Lenovo and forced labor [was: Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)]
On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 10:47:06AM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > I think before jumping on this offer, one should consider this: > https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale The list of brands from the article: Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter’s, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, Geely Auto, General Motors, Google, Goertek, H, Haier, Hart Schaffner Marx, Hisense, Hitachi, HP, HTC, Huawei, iFlyTek, Jack & Jones, Jaguar, Japan Display Inc., L.L.Bean, Lacoste, Land Rover, Lenovo, LG, Li-Ning, Mayor, Meizu, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Mitsumi, Nike, Nintendo, Nokia, Oculus, Oppo, Panasonic, Polo Ralph Lauren, Puma, Roewe, SAIC Motor, Samsung, SGMW, Sharp, Siemens, Skechers, Sony, TDK, Tommy Hilfiger, Toshiba, Tsinghua Tongfang, Uniqlo, Victoria’s Secret, Vivo, Volkswagen, Xiaomi, Zara, Zegna, ZTE. So it looks like this is not specific to Lenovo or laptops (just like the "I'm not sure there are alternatives" part). -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Lenovo and forced labor [was: Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)]
On 02.09.20 15:08, Mark Pearson wrote: > Hi Debian developers, > > Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) > the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: > > US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux > Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca I think before jumping on this offer, one should consider this: https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale Lenovo is by far not the only company producing laptops with forced labor involved, however they have not - as of today - as far as I can see - cared to comment on those report at all: * they have neither denied nor ack'ed it * and they haven't said either that they'd no longer use forced labor to produce their wares I'd conclude from that, that Lenovo still is, will be, and is not planing to stop using forced labor to produce those laptops. I'm not sure there are alternatives: I have not researched them intensively yet - I am currently in need of a new laptop too, so I'll have to look around whether there are other brands that do not rely on companies that employ forced labor. Pointers welcome. *t
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 12:11:02AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 02, Mark Pearson wrote: > > > You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address to > > get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any problems. > This is great news, even if I do not live in the USA so this is not > relevant for me at this time. > But you should be aware that not all developers choose to enable their > debian.org email address, so given time it would be useful to have an > alternative authorization method. Such as? Regards Geert Stappers P.S. Nice to see another reward to @debian.org people -- Silence is hard to parse
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:22 PM Mark Pearson wrote: > Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) > the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: Thanks for your generosity here! This announcement seems suitable for inclusion on these wiki pages. You will need to register an account in order to edit them, if you don't have one already. Inclusion on the latter means the announcement will eventually go out to the debian-devel-announce mailing list. https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits https://wiki.debian.org/DeveloperNews > You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address > to get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any > problems. I note that some debian.org email addresses are guest accounts for contributors who are not Debian members (although we do ask that they don't use these addresses) and some are role addresses (for example d...@debian.org corresponds to the Debian sysadmin team (DSA)) and some of those teams may have recipients who are not yet Debian members. Does the acceptance of role addresses mean for example that DSA could buy discounted servers from Lenovo? We have received very favourable quotes for servers from the local Austrian and Greek Lenovo offices and turning that into a standard discount that does not require country-by-country conversations with the local Lenovo offices would be very helpful. Many of the Debian membership benefits (link above) also apply to Debian Maintainers (folks who are not members but can do unsupervised uploads of particular packages) and Debian contributors in general, has Lenovo considered including one or both of these groups in the discount program? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On Sep 02, Mark Pearson wrote: > You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address to > get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any problems. This is great news, even if I do not live in the USA so this is not relevant for me at this time. But you should be aware that not all developers choose to enable their debian.org email address, so given time it would be useful to have an alternative authorization method. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: > Hi > > On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > > US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux > > > Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca > > > > I've tried registering on the US website and it seems to work fine here. > > I'm > > not completely sure how explicit the “rebate” is (and with the LABORDAY > > coupon > > currently on the “standard” website it's not easy to compare). Anyway I > > didn't > > investigate further because I'm from Europe so I'll wait a bit. > > > I'm just curious - it doesn't let you double up on the discounts? (I > have no idea if it would or notbut worth a go :P) To be fair, I did try to add that, but the /Linux website told me the coupon was expired :) > > > > We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not > > > available yet I'm afraid. > > > > Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more? > Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the > geo teams to some extent. > The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first > oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing > the others down so I'll check with him what the status is. Ack, thanks! > > On the X1C configuration I tried, the “Absolute” stuff is there but one > > can't > > change it. For the HAP the snippet is not there at all (although I think I > > remember seeing it once) > > > I've not played with that but I can find out about it. I've got a T14 > AMD in front of me right now and it I could configure the Absolute > Persistence Module (enable/disable/permanently disable). Yeah I know the end-user / administrator can disable it in the BIOS settings, but there's apparently a way to do it on the website and I was curious about it. > For the ME HAP...I don't see that either. I'll see if I can find out > about it. Obviously that's only on Intel platforms (AMD has the PSP processor but I'm unsure if there's an equivalent HAP stuff). This one actually *needs* to be set by the OEM before end of manufacturing (flashing would work on older Intel platforms but not the more recent ones). Some details can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine#%22High_Assurance_Platform%22_mode Regards, - -- Yves-Alexis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE8vi34Qgfo83x35gF3rYcyPpXRFsFAl9P9HsACgkQ3rYcyPpX RFtQdggAqqLcNKfzR8wWePE3tKc9i8jd3m/ey53GCOY/SvcF9j88ajDBqJlgkFm8 tcr6tlNPWsqqBDEYceslXrzEE94c2I9Ddrh0g1nn4/bpVMLgKWUgqq2fculhfhMt et3gDr+M8ERCWHBHTHNK0adVxGfidC8JlXamgNFaMOpg9YJ8rMcZhwKAA1aS1Jgq Oj9Bf2Ec7T2lj4PZNG1RrOoOzV16xx6DAkGv1ZUAXXd2+mLpbnRWWfnhPfD0GEKH iz3Ehrdn1Kxkt2qNNirQA8SkdTbJA+hXb89RxDFrSWuQGDWiuxZJiey5zjDbPHMm eUZHn5mBsIpyF70a4dMSY5u4Mdr/7A== =U/iR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
Hi On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca I've tried registering on the US website and it seems to work fine here. I'm not completely sure how explicit the “rebate” is (and with the LABORDAY coupon currently on the “standard” website it's not easy to compare). Anyway I didn't investigate further because I'm from Europe so I'll wait a bit. I'm just curious - it doesn't let you double up on the discounts? (I have no idea if it would or notbut worth a go :P) We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not available yet I'm afraid. Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more? Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the geo teams to some extent. The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing the others down so I'll check with him what the status is. We also have our first Linux platform up (X1 Carbon Gen 8 with Fedora). There should be a number of other platforms coming soon - we're working on those and I expect them to be out in the next few weeks. If you have any questions on our Linux platforms please let me know. Actually I do, although it's not entirely linked to Linux. When configuring an Intel platform there are two choices which are not always there but would be interesting I think: - - Disabling of Absolute bios agent - - Activation of the High Assurance Platform bit (HAP) in the Intel ME configuration On the X1C configuration I tried, the “Absolute” stuff is there but one can't change it. For the HAP the snippet is not there at all (although I think I remember seeing it once) I've not played with that but I can find out about it. I've got a T14 AMD in front of me right now and it I could configure the Absolute Persistence Module (enable/disable/permanently disable). For the ME HAP...I don't see that either. I'll see if I can find out about it. Mark
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 09:08 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: > Hi Debian developers, > > Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) > the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: Hi Mark, and many thanks! > > US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux > Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca I've tried registering on the US website and it seems to work fine here. I'm not completely sure how explicit the “rebate” is (and with the LABORDAY coupon currently on the “standard” website it's not easy to compare). Anyway I didn't investigate further because I'm from Europe so I'll wait a bit. > We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not > available yet I'm afraid. Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more? > You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address > to get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any > problems. Worked just fine for me at least. > > We also have our first Linux platform up (X1 Carbon Gen 8 with Fedora). > There should be a number of other platforms coming soon - we're working > on those and I expect them to be out in the next few weeks. If you have > any questions on our Linux platforms please let me know. Actually I do, although it's not entirely linked to Linux. When configuring an Intel platform there are two choices which are not always there but would be interesting I think: - - Disabling of Absolute bios agent - - Activation of the High Assurance Platform bit (HAP) in the Intel ME configuration On the X1C configuration I tried, the “Absolute” stuff is there but one can't change it. For the HAP the snippet is not there at all (although I think I remember seeing it once) Again thanks for the work enabling the portal. Regards, - -- Yves-Alexis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE8vi34Qgfo83x35gF3rYcyPpXRFsFAl9P4hUACgkQ3rYcyPpX RFvHLAf/dDnQwGKqdgV+7Pv621sn8ykpwvjIrA6jiKBOIodl3NXfnR+J4eeov2Do zHtx+p15gphk4rmC7cZG7SiCWpqSLmRyOAyouutqgreXwUROmJt/TNA37dVvjT2R O8dIvGyJlUO7lWYwBwMvpdZCPki5Q1eC4j+ZwhUXTq4iptYFyliePJkKbTOcUETP rOwVjCtN7Wrdj20v0xopREi2ZabbQuvnMng+pL+KyOVebE4Md6wKHXuwWgKNx8FR STqQsHmDQHOogGp8BkvZ0lQUZRgQgHAR7rvjl2LLHiWzanuqDomlSIGsXsyZUZcW lIaKUvr5xoceEtyVHTfJuI3sH61xKQ== =kHpq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 02/09/2020 10:25, Mark Pearson wrote: > On 9/2/2020 11:01 AM, jathan wrote: >> On 02/09/2020 08:08, Mark Pearson wrote: >>> Hi Debian developers, >>> >>> Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank >>> you!) the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: >>> >>> US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux Canada: >>> http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca >>> > >>> >> Hi Mark, >> >> Thanks a lot for the support of Lenovo to Linux and Debian! I have >> created my account with my debian Email address and when I try to >> login, I obtain the following message: >> >> Sorry! It's not you... it's us. Please send us an email to the >> address in the right column, and someone will get back with you >> shortly. >> >> Could you help me please? >> > I heard the same from someone else. In their case 45 mins later a > confirmation email from Lenovo showed up and everything worked > > I'll follow up with the portal maintainer and update when I get a proper > answer > > Mark I cant enter to my Lenovo account now. The discounts are great! If anyone open her/his Lenovo Debian account, as Mark says, we need to wait around 45 minutes and then everything works fine to login. Thank you very much Mark! It is fantastic to have Lenovo with us, Best regards Jathan -- Por favor evita enviarme adjuntos en formato de word o powerpoint, si quieres saber porque lee esto: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html ¡Cámbiate a GNU/Linux! http://getgnulinux.org/es signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 9/2/2020 11:01 AM, jathan wrote: On 02/09/2020 08:08, Mark Pearson wrote: Hi Debian developers, Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca Hi Mark, Thanks a lot for the support of Lenovo to Linux and Debian! I have created my account with my debian Email address and when I try to login, I obtain the following message: Sorry! It's not you... it's us. Please send us an email to the address in the right column, and someone will get back with you shortly. Could you help me please? I heard the same from someone else. In their case 45 mins later a confirmation email from Lenovo showed up and everything worked I'll follow up with the portal maintainer and update when I get a proper answer Mark
Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 02/09/2020 10:25, Mark Pearson wrote: > On 9/2/2020 11:01 AM, jathan wrote: >> On 02/09/2020 08:08, Mark Pearson wrote: >>> Hi Debian developers, >>> >>> Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank >>> you!) the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: >>> >>> US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux Canada: >>> http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca >>> > >>> >> Hi Mark, >> >> Thanks a lot for the support of Lenovo to Linux and Debian! I have >> created my account with my debian Email address and when I try to >> login, I obtain the following message: >> >> Sorry! It's not you... it's us. Please send us an email to the >> address in the right column, and someone will get back with you >> shortly. >> >> Could you help me please? >> > I heard the same from someone else. In their case 45 mins later a > confirmation email from Lenovo showed up and everything worked > > I'll follow up with the portal maintainer and update when I get a proper > answer > > Mark Thank you for your help Mark! Regards Jathan -- Por favor evita enviarme adjuntos en formato de word o powerpoint, si quieres saber porque lee esto: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html ¡Cámbiate a GNU/Linux! http://getgnulinux.org/es signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
On 02/09/2020 08:08, Mark Pearson wrote: > Hi Debian developers, > > Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) > the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: > > US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux > Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca > > We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not > available yet I'm afraid. > > You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address > to get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any > problems. > > We also have our first Linux platform up (X1 Carbon Gen 8 with Fedora). > There should be a number of other platforms coming soon - we're working > on those and I expect them to be out in the next few weeks. If you have > any questions on our Linux platforms please let me know. > > I did also try and get through the remaining questions that didn't get > answered during the Debconf talk - so if your question didn't get > answered at the time have a look at etherpad and check. > > Thanks > Mark > Hi Mark, Thanks a lot for the support of Lenovo to Linux and Debian! I have created my account with my debian Email address and when I try to login, I obtain the following message: Sorry! It's not you... it's us. Please send us an email to the address in the right column, and someone will get back with you shortly. Could you help me please? Regards! Jathan -- Por favor evita enviarme adjuntos en formato de word o powerpoint, si quieres saber porque lee esto: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html ¡Cámbiate a GNU/Linux! http://getgnulinux.org/es signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
Hi Mark On 2020/09/02 15:08, Mark Pearson wrote: > Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) > the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: > > US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux > Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca > > We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not > available yet I'm afraid. > > You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address > to get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any > problems. > > We also have our first Linux platform up (X1 Carbon Gen 8 with Fedora). > There should be a number of other platforms coming soon - we're working > on those and I expect them to be out in the next few weeks. If you have > any questions on our Linux platforms please let me know. > > I did also try and get through the remaining questions that didn't get > answered during the Debconf talk - so if your question didn't get > answered at the time have a look at etherpad and check. Thanks for the information! And congratulations on the successful launch of your Linux line-up, I hope it's the first of many success stories on this front! -Jonathan -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org ⠈⠳⣄ Debian, the universal operating system.
Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)
Hi Debian developers, Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!) the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available: US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not available yet I'm afraid. You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address to get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any problems. We also have our first Linux platform up (X1 Carbon Gen 8 with Fedora). There should be a number of other platforms coming soon - we're working on those and I expect them to be out in the next few weeks. If you have any questions on our Linux platforms please let me know. I did also try and get through the remaining questions that didn't get answered during the Debconf talk - so if your question didn't get answered at the time have a look at etherpad and check. Thanks Mark
