Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread christophe barbe
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:32:10PM -0400, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 Source: gdesklets-data
 Binary: gdesklets-data
 Architecture: source all
 Version: 0.13.1
 Distribution: unstable
 Urgency: low
 Maintainer: Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Changed-By: Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Description: 
  gdesklets-data - displays and sensors for gdesklets
 Closes: 207088
 Changes: 
  gdesklets-data (0.13.1) unstable; urgency=low
  .
* Fixed the wrong directory in README.Debian (Closes: #207088).
 Files: 
  85b18c208186cbe6a86b48c23e78b9d3 526 x11 optional gdesklets-data_0.13.1.dsc
  5b5c46862fbb651b34ef1c090cbcd776 344185 x11 optional 
 gdesklets-data_0.13.1.tar.gz
  c18e378be01cbdb68d8121b464eada4b 319230 x11 optional 
 gdesklets-data_0.13.1_all.deb

Is it a common practice to use this kind of numbering (without a second part 
after 
a dash) for what I presume is a debian-made tarball (multiple upstream tarballs
put together).

   gdesklets-data_0.13.1_all.deb

Also (related) why not use a orig.tar.gz file?
My understanding is that the difference between 0.13.1 and 0.13, because
only the README.Debian has changed, it would have been a good thing to
base it on the previous tarball.

Christophe

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Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread Sebastien Bacher
christophe barbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is it a common practice to use this kind of numbering (without a second part 
 after 
 a dash) for what I presume is a debian-made tarball (multiple upstream 
 tarballs
 put together).

gdesklets-data_0.13.1_all.deb

 Also (related) why not use a orig.tar.gz file?
 My understanding is that the difference between 0.13.1 and 0.13, because
 only the README.Debian has changed, it would have been a good thing to
 base it on the previous tarball.

Yes, gdesklets-data is a debian native package (ie: there is no upstream
tarball corresponding to this archive).

-n version are revision on a same upstream tarball, but in this case we
 don't have any .orig.tar.gz 


Cheers,

Sebastien Bacher




Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread christophe barbe
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 Yes, gdesklets-data is a debian native package (ie: there is no upstream
 tarball corresponding to this archive).

Thanks for the explaination.

 -n version are revision on a same upstream tarball, but in this case we
  don't have any .orig.tar.gz 

Is there something preventing the use of a .orig.tar.gz tarball. It
would be nice to see a .orig.tar.gz containing only upstream bits and
the debian stuff in the diff, for review purpose and for bandwith
saving.

Christophe

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Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:08:51AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
  Yes, gdesklets-data is a debian native package (ie: there is no upstream
  tarball corresponding to this archive).
 
 Thanks for the explaination.
 
  -n version are revision on a same upstream tarball, but in this case we
   don't have any .orig.tar.gz 
 
 Is there something preventing the use of a .orig.tar.gz tarball. It
 would be nice to see a .orig.tar.gz containing only upstream bits and
 the debian stuff in the diff, for review purpose and for bandwith
 saving.

Again. It's a debian _native_ package, there is no such thing as upstream 
in native packages.

Regards

Javi




Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 04:38:51PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:08:51AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
   Yes, gdesklets-data is a debian native package (ie: there is no upstream
   tarball corresponding to this archive).
  
  Thanks for the explaination.
  
   -n version are revision on a same upstream tarball, but in this case we
don't have any .orig.tar.gz 
  
  Is there something preventing the use of a .orig.tar.gz tarball. It
  would be nice to see a .orig.tar.gz containing only upstream bits and
  the debian stuff in the diff, for review purpose and for bandwith
  saving.
 
 Again. It's a debian _native_ package, there is no such thing as
 upstream in native packages.

That's an obviously circular argument. Why is it native if it wasn't
written especially for Debian (policy 3.2.1)?

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Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread christophe barbe
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 04:38:51PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
  Is there something preventing the use of a .orig.tar.gz tarball. It
  would be nice to see a .orig.tar.gz containing only upstream bits and
  the debian stuff in the diff, for review purpose and for bandwith
  saving.
 
 Again. It's a debian _native_ package, there is no such thing as upstream 
 in native packages.

What makes it a native package? Or if you prefer, what prevent it of not
being a native package?

One of the inconvenient of the 'native' format used for a package made
of upstream tarballs is that it makes it difficult to review (and also
waste some bandwith). 
In this particular case, the diff.gz could certainly contains only the
debian directory. But I agree that the tarball will be custom made for
debian.

Christophe

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