Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 08:22 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Anibal Avelar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.0805 +0100]: http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Penguin_Fat.gif http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Jhas.png http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/little_pinguin.jpg http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/calimero.jpg http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/Akubuntu.png I will vehemently oppose to anything penguin-related for Debian. Debian != Linux. What about a bug... Bugs are our pets : we take care of them. Pixar's A Bug's life : http://www.pixar.com/featurefilms/abl/tale.html http://imdb.com/media/rm1614715136/tt0114709 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
also sprach Franklin PIAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.0936 +0100]: What about a bug... Bugs are our pets : we take care of them. I guess I just repeat myself when I question why we need to join the free software zoo. Is it hip? Are we hip? What's the gain? Why bother? A fluffy pillow with a swirl on it sounds like a good idea, for when you're feeling down and need some FOSS lovin'. A fluff animal, on the other hand, is for kids. Debian is not. -- .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems n3tg0d has /usr/bin/emacs been put into /etc/shells yet? :P digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:56 PM, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A fluff animal, on the other hand, is for kids. Debian is not. Debian is for everyone, kids included! -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
also sprach Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.1007 +0100]: A fluff animal, on the other hand, is for kids. Debian is not. Debian is for everyone, kids included! Yes. What I meant to say was: a stuffed animal might belittle Debian. The Swirl is way more mature, albeit perceived less cool. -- .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems the condition of perfection is idleness. the aim of perfection is youth. -- oscar wilde digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On ti, 2008-02-26 at 10:15 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.1007 +0100]: A fluff animal, on the other hand, is for kids. Debian is not. Debian is for everyone, kids included! Yes. What I meant to say was: a stuffed animal might belittle Debian. The Swirl is way more mature, albeit perceived less cool. I don't think a stuff Tux belittles Linux. I don't think a stuffed animal would belittle Debian. (A stuffed rubber chicken as a Debian mascot might be wholly inappropriate, though.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
also sprach Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.1018 +0100]: I don't think a stuff Tux belittles Linux. I don't think a stuffed animal would belittle Debian. Fine. I have other arguments: it would make it yet another FOSS project with an animal mascot. -- .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems i'd rather be riding a high speed tractor with a beer on my lap, and a six pack of girls next to me. digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On ti, 2008-02-26 at 10:20 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.1018 +0100]: I don't think a stuff Tux belittles Linux. I don't think a stuffed animal would belittle Debian. Fine. I have other arguments: it would make it yet another FOSS project with an animal mascot. I'm not advocating stuffed animals for Debian mascots. I'm fine with a pillow, a tie, and a tutu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: also sprach Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.1018 +0100]: I don't think a stuff Tux belittles Linux. I don't think a stuffed animal would belittle Debian. Fine. I have other arguments: it would make it yet another FOSS project with an animal mascot. I hope that there are still a few other things about Debian that distinguish us from other FOSS projects. FWIW, I think the swirl is wonderful as logo. It can be read as sign for everlasting expansion, or, in the other direction, converging to one common goal [1]. On the other hand, I like the idea of a fluffy stuffed animal [2], simply because Debian is not only a machine running with german efficiency, but a community of like-minded people. I don't think a stuffed animal paying tribute to this more social side of Debian would belittle the project. Marc Footnotes: [1] ... albeit people might argue that Debian is running in circles around that common goal #-) [2] That would make it easier for me to find something nice for Pia [3] [3] http://blog.zobel.ftbfs.de/debian/assimilated -- BOFH #448: vi needs to be upgraded to vii pgpQGM0bzmSDI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
Hi, * martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-26 12:26]: also sprach Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.1018 +0100]: I don't think a stuff Tux belittles Linux. I don't think a stuffed animal would belittle Debian. Fine. I have other arguments: it would make it yet another FOSS project with an animal mascot. I strongly agree, also because we already have a logo it would be nice if the new fancy logo would be related to the existing ones. I really like the genie in http://www.openpuppets.com/fondos/8c.png :) Cheers Nico -- Nico Golde - http://www.ngolde.de - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG: 0x73647CFF For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. pgpNQWEBHc4XP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
Le Tuesday 26 February 2008 14:41:41 Nico Golde, vous avez écrit : Fine. I have other arguments: it would make it yet another FOSS project with an animal mascot. I strongly agree, also because we already have a logo it would be nice if the new fancy logo would be related to the existing ones. I really like the genie in http://www.openpuppets.com/fondos/8c.png :) Well, you still can put a logo on the animal's belly.. Now that I think about it, I think that a care bear with a debian logo on it's belly would even be better than a marmot :-D We could say that we all identifies to it, couldn't we ? :-P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Care_Bears http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg Romain
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
also sprach Romain Beauxis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.1454 +0100]: Now that I think about it, I think that a care bear with a debian logo on it's belly would even be better than a marmot :-D Oh, then I vote for teletubbies. (NOT) -- .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems i wish i hadn't slept all day, it's really lowered my productivity -- robert mcqueen digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
[Sam Hocevar] Development news Last month Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) gave some news about his project of improving the init system [3]. This is almost as simple as adding LSB headers to your init scripts, and work is advancing towards this goal, though not as quickly as desirable. If your packages have init scripts, or if you wish to help, I urge you to have a look at the proposal so that we can have it in Lenny. For those wondering if their package is affected, here is the complete list of 200 packages missing the LSB headers, sorted by maintainer. All release goals can use 0-day NMUs, so anyone is welcome to help solve these issue. Several of them have BTS reports with patches to fix it already, but I have not managed to covered them all yet. Guenter Geiger (Debian/GNU) [EMAIL PROTECTED] realtime-lsm Stefan Hornburg (Racke) [EMAIL PROTECTED] courier-authlib interchange pure-ftpd sympa Cyril Lacoux (Yack) [EMAIL PROTECTED] digitools Marco Presi (Zufus) [EMAIL PROTECTED] linesrv Peter De Schrijver (p2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-atm Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] tpconfig Ben Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] xpilot-ng Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] spamass-milter SZALAY Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] zorp Alan Bain [EMAIL PROTECTED] rbootd Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mgetty Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ipmasq nfs-user-server Hilko Bengen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ulog-acctd Grzegorz Bizon [EMAIL PROTECTED] specter Blars Blarson [EMAIL PROTECTED] cnews Ed Boraas [EMAIL PROTECTED] tinyproxy Cyril Bouthors [EMAIL PROTECTED] bld drbdlinks Chris Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] reaim Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] dante Eric Van Buggenhaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] udhcp Bruno Barrera C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] portsentry Patrick Caulfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] mopd Dennis L. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] bnetd Jesus Climent [EMAIL PROTECTED] distmp3 Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] memlockd Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber Carlo Contavalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wipl Paul Cupis [EMAIL PROTECTED] guarddog guidedog Artur R. Czechowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] rrdcollect Julien Danjou [EMAIL PROTECTED] greylistd ledstats tetrinetx tleds Debian GNUstep maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnustep-base Debian Hamradio Maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] aprsd Debian Icecast team [EMAIL PROTECTED] icecast2 Debian Multimedia Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] das-watchdog Debian Nagios Maintainer Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] nsca Debian VoIP Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] rtpproxy siproxd Eric Delaunay [EMAIL PROTECTED] scsitools Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] net-acct transproxy Robert S. Edmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED] pcaputils Nick Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED] upsd Martín Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] vtun Duncan Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] spamassassin Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] roxen4 Jochen Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] isakmpd Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] xtide Radovan Garabik [EMAIL PROTECTED] serpento Radovan Garabík [EMAIL PROTECTED] karrigell xtell Hector Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] smail RISKO Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] shaperd David Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] pads Rudy Godoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] netapplet John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] pygopherd Celso González [EMAIL PROTECTED] cpudyn Daniel Gubser [EMAIL PROTECTED] psad Guido Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] smartmontools Aurélien GÉRÔME [EMAIL PROTECTED] dancer-ircd dancer-services Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ifupdown-scripts-zg2 Pascal Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED] anacron Chris Halls [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-proxy David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ipband Andres Seco Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] alamin Varun Hiremath [EMAIL PROTECTED] oss-preserve Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] fcron Simon Horman [EMAIL PROTECTED] heartbeat perdition Peter Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] zoneminder Qingning Huo [EMAIL PROTECTED] log2mail Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta [EMAIL PROTECTED] fwlogwatch netkit-bootparamd xmbmon Mario Iseli [EMAIL PROTECTED] irmp3 Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sauce Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] userv LENART Janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] jmon Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] muddleftpd LaMont Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] hpsockd Karl E. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] battery-stats Takuo KITAME [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtpguard Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] buildbot Steve Kowalik [EMAIL PROTECTED] xringd Antonin Kral [EMAIL PROTECTED] pimd Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] tspc Joshua Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] nethack Mario Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] filterproxy Thomas Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] fai Chris Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnome-lokkit John Lines [EMAIL PROTECTED] plptools smtpd Pablo Lorenzzoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] tcpspy Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [Sam Hocevar] Development news Last month Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) gave some news about his project of improving the init system [3]. This is almost as simple as adding LSB headers to your init scripts, and work is advancing towards this goal, though not as quickly as desirable. If your packages have init scripts, or if you wish to help, I urge you to have a look at the proposal so that we can have it in Lenny. For those wondering if their package is affected, here is the complete list of 200 packages missing the LSB headers, sorted by maintainer. All release goals can use 0-day NMUs, so anyone is welcome to help solve these issue. Several of them have BTS reports with patches to fix it already, but I have not managed to covered them all yet. I'm currently in the early process of the second l10n NMU campaign ever (the first happened before etch). As usual with the help of the i18n crowd. That campaign will last until the very final freeze of lenny. While doing so, I already spotted a few packages which are missing LSB headers. I *will* add these when NMUing such packages to add the pending l10n stuff. So, in case some people start a NMU campaign for LSB stuff and find packages with pending debconf l10n bug reports, please drop me a note. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
Quoting Lars Wirzenius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm not advocating stuffed animals for Debian mascots. I'm fine with a pillow, a tie, and a tutu. I proposed Lars Wirzenius wearing nothing but a tie and a tutu, and holding a pillow with a swirl on it, as the official Debian mascot. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:54:18PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: Le Tuesday 26 February 2008 14:41:41 Nico Golde, vous avez écrit : Fine. I have other arguments: it would make it yet another FOSS project with an animal mascot. I strongly agree, also because we already have a logo it would be nice if the new fancy logo would be related to the existing ones. I really like the genie in http://www.openpuppets.com/fondos/8c.png :) Well, you still can put a logo on the animal's belly.. Now that I think about it, I think that a care bear with a debian logo on it's belly would even be better than a marmot :-D We could say that we all identifies to it, couldn't we ? :-P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Care_Bears http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg It would be better to avoid copyright and trademark infringments. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:36:32AM +0100, Franklin PIAT wrote: What about a bug... Bugs are our pets : we take care of them. Oh god. No, please, everything but not a bug as mascot. You'll be unable to communicate to our users that we _care_ for bugs. It will bring the reputation to Debian, that it is the project that is proud of its bugs and thats really a negative reputation. just my 2 cents Regards, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:20:55AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: Fine. I have other arguments: it would make it yet another FOSS project with an animal mascot. What about a Foss project with a non-animal mascot? And for an non-animal mascot I'd like to suggest The perfect spiral [¹]. [¹] http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap071201.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
Hi, On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:56:40AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Franklin PIAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.0936 +0100]: What about a bug... Bugs are our pets : we take care of them. I guess I just repeat myself when I question why we need to join the free software zoo. Is it hip? Are we hip? What's the gain? Why bother? The question is: Why not? Okay, it doesn't have to be an animal (it could also be an insect, a fantasy creature, etc.) but consider that having something like that has a good haptic effect. From a marketing point of view its a really great idea, because it betters the recognition of Debian. Consider that people like it. I'm quiet sure, that if we'd ask the sellers of such floss animals they would tell us that these floss animals are popular demanded items. And hey, don't you have a penguin or something like that in the near of your computer or its peripherals? Well, I do. A fluffy pillow with a swirl on it sounds like a good idea, for when you're feeling down and need some FOSS lovin'. Oh.. okay.. a fluffy pillow ... for FOSS lovin'.. is okay, but - well don't let me think about this :-) A fluff animal, on the other hand, is for kids. Debian is not. No it is not. Or would you really say that the recognition of FreeBSD is the one of a kids toy? And btw. we _do_ target kids as well. For them a nice fluffy animal seriously highers their interest in Debian. BTW. just for the records: I do not advocate for a logo replacement. It is fine as it is. But certainly a mascot can be a good supplement to a good logo. Best Regards, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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also sprach Patrick Schoenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.26.2239 +0100]: From a marketing point of view its a really great idea, because it betters the recognition of Debian. From a marketing point of view, our swirl is already better than any other mascot, except maybe Tux. -- .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems all language designers are arrogant. goes with the territory... -- larry wall digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:56:40 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: What about a bug... Bugs are our pets : we take care of them. I guess I just repeat myself when I question why we need to join the free software zoo. Is it hip? Are we hip? What's the gain? Why bother? Ack. A fluffy pillow with a swirl on it sounds like a good idea, for when you're feeling down and need some FOSS lovin'. What I'd actually like to see, own and use is a sweat-shirt; wearing it in everday life would be a nice and easy way of promoting Debian. gre as long as it's black gor -- .''`. http://info.comodo.priv.at/ | gpg key ID: 0x00F3CFE4 : :' : debian: the universal operating system - http://www.debian.org/ `. `' member of https://www.vibe.at/ | how to reply: http://got.to/quote/ `-NP: Sigur Rós: Mílanó signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 22:02 +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:36:32AM +0100, Franklin PIAT wrote: What about a bug... Bugs are our pets : we take care of them. Oh god. No, please, everything but not a bug as mascot. You'll be unable to communicate to our users that we _care_ for bugs. It will bring the reputation to Debian, that it is the project that is proud of its bugs and thats really a negative reputation. It doesn't really have to be our best friend... we could have a stress ball looking like a bug, that we could bring at BSPs (Let's squash a bug). Those were just random ideas anyway, As I really like our Swirl (and its pink... that's really our color). Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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gregor herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'd actually like to see, own and use is a sweat-shirt; wearing it in everday life would be a nice and easy way of promoting Debian. URL:http://clusty.com/search?query=host%3Acafepress.com+debian+sweatshirt -- \ Dyslexia means never having to say that you're ysror. -- | `\ Anonymous | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I strongly agree, also because we already have a logo it would be nice if the new fancy logo would be related to the existing ones. I really like the genie in http://www.openpuppets.com/fondos/8c.png :) Hey, I like the genie, too. What it communicates to me is magic. In fact, when seeing the swirl logo, I usually imagine some wizard that makes it. :) Cheers, -- Theppitak Karoonboonyanan http://linux.thai.net/~thep/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:16:28 +0100 Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to set up a Debian Marketing Team, whose work would be to organise all the promotional stuff (logos, t-shirt designs, wallpapers, etc.) so that the project can officially endorse good designs, and to make the ultimate decision on visual stuff such as CD covers, splash screens, etc. This team would have official DPL delegation, but I hope that it can also work with non-Debian-developers, as many packaging teams already do, because the non-DDs know better than us how to draw people to Debian. So please let me know if you are interested, even if you are not a DD, and especially if you are not a programmer! I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian project (in a similar way to the Linux penguin or the GNU gnu) that we can use where the logo is not enough. More on this in a few days. hi together, my name is nico patzold. your mail sounds like a really attractive idea to me: to create a friendly mascot for the Debian project (in a similar way to the Linux penguin or the GNU gnu) I'm finally enthusiastic for debian since etch came out and would like to give something back to the project. I'm not into the technical stuff but trying to convince people (ms users), that debian or linux in general simply is a operating system ;) and it's a good idea to use it! to cut the longway short: I'm iterested, but don't know how it works or how I could contribute. my skills are in graphics, I like drawing and would be pleased to give some ideas for a debian mascott or advertising for debian in general. many greetings, nic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
Hi, On Monday 25 February 2008 08:15, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:07:20AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: We had a chicken[¹]. We spent years actively getting rid of it. [¹] Technically speaking it was a penguin. But it was a youthful penguin, rebelling against its genetic heritage. Oh why? I liked the chicken! When I read Sams mail I immediatly thought of it. Maybe it's good idea to renew the drawing (and keep the basic idea/look), but IMHO thats all. And we should definitly keep the swirl as _the_ logo. LCA2009 has a tasmanian devil pretending to be penguin [²]. [²] https://linux.conf.au/ HAHA. Wow, great! regards, Holger pgpVyvyRAI02r.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Am Montag, den 25.02.2008, 12:00 +0100 schrieb Holger Levsen: Hi, On Monday 25 February 2008 08:15, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:07:20AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: We had a chicken[¹]. We spent years actively getting rid of it. [¹] Technically speaking it was a penguin. But it was a youthful penguin, rebelling against its genetic heritage. Oh why? I liked the chicken! When I read Sams mail I immediatly thought of it. Maybe it's good idea to renew the drawing (and keep the basic idea/look), but IMHO thats all. Can anyone please give an URL for this picture? Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Am Montag, den 25.02.2008, 13:42 +0100 schrieb David Paleino: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:38:07 +0100, Thomas Weber wrote: Am Montag, den 25.02.2008, 12:00 +0100 schrieb Holger Levsen: Hi, On Monday 25 February 2008 08:15, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:07:20AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: We had a chicken[¹]. We spent years actively getting rid of it. [¹] Technically speaking it was a penguin. But it was a youthful penguin, rebelling against its genetic heritage. Oh why? I liked the chicken! When I read Sams mail I immediatly thought of it. Maybe it's good idea to renew the drawing (and keep the basic idea/look), but IMHO thats all. Can anyone please give an URL for this picture? I believe what they're talking about can be seen on http://lintian.debian.org/. (see the penguins on the background of the logo) Thanks. I finally found http://www.debian.org/vote/1999/debianlogo-3.jpg An image of a chicken, picking at 2+ grains and still not sated comes to my mind. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:38:07 +0100, Thomas Weber wrote: Am Montag, den 25.02.2008, 12:00 +0100 schrieb Holger Levsen: Hi, On Monday 25 February 2008 08:15, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:07:20AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: We had a chicken[¹]. We spent years actively getting rid of it. [¹] Technically speaking it was a penguin. But it was a youthful penguin, rebelling against its genetic heritage. Oh why? I liked the chicken! When I read Sams mail I immediatly thought of it. Maybe it's good idea to renew the drawing (and keep the basic idea/look), but IMHO thats all. Can anyone please give an URL for this picture? I believe what they're talking about can be seen on http://lintian.debian.org/. (see the penguins on the background of the logo) David -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 | http://snipr.com/qa_page `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:07:20 +0200, Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We had a chicken[1]. We spent years actively getting rid of it. I loved the chicken. I had a character. That would be the animal at: http://lintian.debian.org/ yes? :) -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 19:48 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.24.1316 +0100]: I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian project (in a similar way to the Linux penguin or the GNU gnu) that we can use where the logo is not enough. More on this in a few days. In the free software zoo, the Debian Swirl sticks out like no other logo. Do we have to get a mascot? The same way Geppetto is fixing Pinocchio, Debian is always fixing Sid (The boy that break it's toys) to turn it into stable. Of course, Geppetto isn't a mascott... I can think of a spider, which always makes a perfect web, even if you break it. Also, the Beaver comes to my mind. Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
also sprach Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.24.1316 +0100]: I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian project (in a similar way to the Linux penguin or the GNU gnu) that we can use where the logo is not enough. More on this in a few days. In the free software zoo, the Debian Swirl sticks out like no other logo. Do we have to get a mascot? -- .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/)
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On su, 2008-02-24 at 19:48 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.24.1316 +0100]: I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian project (in a similar way to the Linux penguin or the GNU gnu) that we can use where the logo is not enough. More on this in a few days. In the free software zoo, the Debian Swirl sticks out like no other logo. Do we have to get a mascot? We had a chicken[1]. We spent years actively getting rid of it. [1] Technically speaking it was a penguin. But it was a youthful penguin, rebelling against its genetic heritage. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:07:20AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: We had a chicken[¹]. We spent years actively getting rid of it. [¹] Technically speaking it was a penguin. But it was a youthful penguin, rebelling against its genetic heritage. LCA2009 has a tasmanian devil pretending to be penguin [²]. [²] https://linux.conf.au/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:07:20 +0200, Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On su, 2008-02-24 at 19:48 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.24.1316 +0100]: I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian project (in a similar way to the Linux penguin or the GNU gnu) that we can use where the logo is not enough. More on this in a few days. In the free software zoo, the Debian Swirl sticks out like no other logo. Do we have to get a mascot? We had a chicken[1]. We spent years actively getting rid of it. I loved the chicken. I had a character. [1] Technically speaking it was a penguin. But it was a youthful penguin, rebelling against its genetic heritage. Youthful, but with taste. I thought it gave us a better logo than the somewhat blah swirl. But I lost that vote manoj -- If only you knew she loved you, you could face the uncertainty of whether you love her. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
