Re: Bug#544539: RFP: Linux Unified Kernel
On 2009-09-01 05:29, Ivan Borzenkov wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: Linux Unified Kernel Version: 0.2.4-1 Upstream Author: Insigma li...@insigma.com.cn URL: http://www.longene.org/en/ License: GPL Description: wine and windows drive model in kernel From the upstream website: The Linux Unified Kernel is a free, open-source computer operating system kernel project intended to expand the Linux Kernel to be binary-compatible with application software and device drivers not only made for Microsoft Windows but also made for Linux OS. Windows has so many viruses, worms and trojans, is it really wise to open the Linux kernel to infection by Windows malware? (Running under Wine is different, since it runs in userland, where everything else is protected from Windows stupidity.) -- Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bug#544539: RFP: Linux Unified Kernel
Ivan Borzenkov schrieb: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: Linux Unified Kernel Version: 0.2.4-1 Upstream Author: Insigma li...@insigma.com.cn URL: http://www.longene.org/en/ License: GPL Description: wine and windows drive model in kernel quote The LUK project aims to add all Windows kernel mechanisms into the Linux kernel, including Process management, Thread management, Object management, virtual memory management, Synchronization, System calls (Syscall), Windows Registry, WDM (Device driver framework), Windows DPC mechanism, etc., to form a new kernel. Thus, the new kernel allows both Linux and Windows applications and device drivers to work directly without virtualization or emulation. /quote Weee, a registry on Linux? WTH? I was so happy that Linux operating systems do not have such a crap. Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bug#544539: RFP: Linux Unified Kernel
Quoting Patrick Matthäi pmatth...@debian.org: Ivan Borzenkov schrieb: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: Linux Unified Kernel Version: 0.2.4-1 Upstream Author: Insigma li...@insigma.com.cn URL: http://www.longene.org/en/ License: GPL Description: wine and windows drive model in kernel quote The LUK project aims to add all Windows kernel mechanisms into the Linux kernel, including Process management, Thread management, Object management, virtual memory management, Synchronization, System calls (Syscall), Windows Registry, WDM (Device driver framework), Windows DPC mechanism, etc., to form a new kernel. Thus, the new kernel allows both Linux and Windows applications and device drivers to work directly without virtualization or emulation. /quote Weee, a registry on Linux? WTH? I was so happy that Linux operating systems do not have such a crap. It really does not make any big difference whether you store user, host or name databases in LDAP, Registry (binary files), text files in /etc or whatever, it is just a storage, though being realized by different means; if you put stuff in there, you will certainly need some ways to clean it. AIX for instance uses LDAP-based Registry if I remember correctly. What really matters is what you put to run in kernel space. Having that said, I don't think I will run such a full-featured kernel ever ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bug#544539: RFP: Linux Unified Kernel
1 сентября 2009 16:09:02 Ron Johnson писали: Windows has so many viruses, worms and trojans, is it really wise to open the Linux kernel to infection by Windows malware? But also indows has many very good programs, and many drivers (LUK also support Windows driver model), now worms and trojans works on wine, and linux access system protect linux from viruses in wine, also no autorun and many bugs in system - is plus for protect. (Running under Wine is different, since it runs in userland, where everything else is protected from Windows stupidity.) LUK runs in userland to. --- Иван Борзенков ivan1...@list.ru I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Bug#544539: RFP: Linux Unified Kernel
Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 17:28 +0400, Ivan Borzenkov a écrit : But also indows has many very good programs, and many drivers (LUK also support Windows driver model), now worms and trojans works on wine, and linux access system protect linux from viruses in wine, also no autorun and many bugs in system - is plus for protect. If you support Windows drivers, you will support kernel-mode Windows trojans as well. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' “I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in `- future understand things” -- Jörg Schilling signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: Bug#544539: RFP: Linux Unified Kernel
1 сентября 2009 18:45:52 Josselin Mouette писали: Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 17:28 +0400, Ivan Borzenkov a écrit : But also indows has many very good programs, and many drivers (LUK also support Windows driver model), now worms and trojans works on wine, and linux access system protect linux from viruses in wine, also no autorun and many bugs in system - is plus for protect. If you support Windows drivers, you will support kernel-mode Windows trojans as well. trojans also need root access to system - in windows it's standart, in linux not --- Иван Борзенков ivan1...@list.ru I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Bug#544539: RFP: Linux Unified Kernel
Ivan Borzenkov wrote: If you support Windows drivers, you will support kernel-mode Windows trojans as well. trojans also need root access to system - in windows it's standart, in linux not I'm not familiar with LUK, but by the description it seems you might be missing the point: it doesn't matter if the _user_ has root access per default or not, if the driver is running in kernel-mode - which seems to be the case for LUK - you're opening up to the same security problems. Unless you have something like ndiswrapper, which has its own set of problems and limitations. Cheers -- Leo costela Antunes [insert a witty retort here] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bug#544539: RFP: Linux Unified Kernel
1 сентября 2009 19:11:06 Leo costela Antunes писали: Ivan Borzenkov wrote: If you support Windows drivers, you will support kernel-mode Windows trojans as well. trojans also need root access to system - in windows it's standart, in linux not I'm not familiar with LUK, but by the description it seems you might be missing the point: it doesn't matter if the _user_ has root access per default or not, if the driver is running in kernel-mode - which seems to be the case for LUK - you're opening up to the same security problems. Unless you have something like ndiswrapper, which has its own set of problems and limitations. Cheers As I understood from the description on the site they use the kernel NDISWrapper for drivers, ie security, such as. --- Иван Борзенков ivan1...@list.ru I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
