Re: a.s.r manpages
On May 28, 12:55pm, Joey Hess wrote: Buddha Buck: Personally, I question placing them in the main distribution at all (including non-free and contrib). I have nothing wrong with the contents (if available, it would be installed on my system rather quickly), but rather the unwanted publicity it could cause. I packaged up some of the ASR man pages as a red hat package back 9 or 10 months ago when I was using red hat, and uploaded it to ftp.dehat.com. This was before dead chickens appeared on ASR. :-) I don't think that package generated unwanted publicity, in fact, I never heard from anyone who ever installed it. I think so too... But will _try_ to ask people at a.s.r their opinion. Look at it this way: I don't think any of the man pages mention ASR at all. So the only person who is going to connect ASR with the package is someone who looks at the package description. Who's most likly to do that? The sysadmin who installs it [1]. Seems appropriate... :^) Oh, to the packager: be sure to include the c(1) manpage that appeared on ASR yesterday. Probably in release 1.1-1 or something :^) I'd like to see n(1) and k(5) first, so this part would be complete :^) [1] Or at least a user clueful enough to know about dpkg -s [2] [2] Sorry about [1] and [2]. ASR-mode, you know.. :^) -- see shy jo Paul -- (___) | Pawel Wiecek - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | o o | http://www.ists.pwr.wroc.pl/~coven/| \ ^ / | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key | () | * * * To err is human, to moo bovine * * * | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a.s.r manpages
I am about to create a package (in fact it's ready) with alt.sysadmin.recovery man pages (things like lart, sysadmin, etc.) So, first of all I'd like to check if there are no other people working on it and if the others think this should be put into Debian. And another question - I'm not sure if my choice of games section is proper... Yes, I know it will be distribution maintainer who'll put it in some correct place, but I'd like to have a good section put in the package... Personally, I question placing them in the main distribution at all (including non-free and contrib). I have nothing wrong with the contents (if available, it would be installed on my system rather quickly), but rather the unwanted publicity it could cause. A.s.r is a rather selective place. Whilst those who read and post to it like it the way it is, and don't want lusers (read the other postings in this thread fora one-line description of lusers) there, there is little they can do about it. Already, one must wave a dead chicken to successfully post to the group, and one of the entries in the groups FAQ is that reposting ASR material to alt.best.of.internet or similar groups (like rec.humor or rec.humor.funny) is highly frowned upon. So far, it's worked. The S/N is rather high, even with the traffic it gets. (Granted, the group has a relatively odd definition of signal, bit there are worse groups -- what counts as noise on alt.religion.kibology, anyway?) But there is a noticable dip in S/N when the group gets publicity. I would prefer keeping the package -out- of the distribution, and mentioning on a.s.r that it is available, even if that would be considered useful information. Paul -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacaphony of the unfettered speech the First Amendment protects. -- A.L.A. v. U.S. Dept. of Justice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a.s.r manpages
Buddha Buck: Personally, I question placing them in the main distribution at all (including non-free and contrib). I have nothing wrong with the contents (if available, it would be installed on my system rather quickly), but rather the unwanted publicity it could cause. I packaged up some of the ASR man pages as a red hat package back 9 or 10 months ago when I was using red hat, and uploaded it to ftp.dehat.com. This was before dead chickens appeared on ASR. :-) I don't think that package generated unwanted publicity, in fact, I never heard from anyone who ever installed it. Look at it this way: I don't think any of the man pages mention ASR at all. So the only person who is going to connect ASR with the package is someone who looks at the package description. Who's most likly to do that? The sysadmin who installs it [1]. Seems appropriate... Oh, to the packager: be sure to include the c(1) manpage that appeared on ASR yesterday. [1] Or at least a user clueful enough to know about dpkg -s [2] [2] Sorry about [1] and [2]. ASR-mode, you know.. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a.s.r manpages
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at it this way: I don't think any of the man pages mention ASR at all. So the only person who is going to connect ASR with the package is someone who looks at the package description. Who's most likly to do that? The sysadmin who installs it [1]. Seems appropriate... But with linux you get lusers playing at being sysadmins. Could we just have a description as Joke manpages; a package name of asrman should be enough for existing a.s.r readers to know what it is, while others will just be slightly puzzled by the name, if they notice it at all. (Not that I care, I don't read a.s.r, though I do read bofh.* occasionally)
Re: a.s.r manpages
On May 26, 10:15am, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Alexander Such pearls of wisdom need to be what they're done Alexander for... Showing up with man... Alexander Nobody will die because of that... Hopefully. Fine, as long as the desciption field is clear that these ``manual pages'' are meant to be humor and should be taken with a grain of salt ... OK. I'll add few words about it. Paul -- (___) | Pawel Wiecek - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | o o | http://www.ists.pwr.wroc.pl/~coven/| \ ^ / | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key | () | * * * To err is human, to moo bovine * * * | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a.s.r manpages
Hi, Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games? manoj confused -- Civilisation is the art of living in towns of such size that everyone does not know everyone else. Julian Jaynes Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a.s.r manpages
On May 26, Manoj Srivastava wrote Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games? Check out the manpages at http://www.bofh.net/man/: lart - Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool - use a lart to adjust lusers' attitudes sysadmin - responsible for everything imaginable that may or may not have to do with the system you're using. Contraction of system and administrator think - you don't have to think, the computer can think for you bosskill - send a signal to your boss, or terminate your boss knife - tools to improve network performance via SNIP luser - process to control the clueless induhviduals who (mis)use computer systems, peripheral devices and system administrators. Word play on loser and user nuke - launch nuclear weapons at mapped USENET sites pmsd - Periodically Manic System Daemon. Manages the bizzare and sometimes unexplainable behavior exhibited by computers etc...; games looks like a better qualification. Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a.s.r manpages
Hi, Oh, I see. Well, this stuff is then like a joke book, in manual page format, and I think that humor should still fit in under the doc category (If I remember correctly, that is where the consensus was to place books like the bible or older books whose copyrights have expired) manoj -- Better late than before anybody has invited you. Ambrose Bierce Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a.s.r manpages
On 26 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Oh, I see. Well, this stuff is then like a joke book, in manual page format, and I think that humor should still fit in under the doc category (If I remember correctly, that is where the consensus was to place books like the bible or older books whose copyrights have expired) But doesn't it belong to /usr/man, if it's in groff format? Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin The fish doesn't think, because the fish knows... everything. -- Arizona Dream -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a.s.r manpages
On May 26, 1:36pm, Alexander Koch wrote: But doesn't it belong to /usr/man, if it's in groff format? Such pearls of wisdom need to be what they're done for... Showing up with man... I wrote it once, but it apparently went into wrong place :^) We're not talking about the location in filesystem hierarchy - this must be /usr/man - but about the package section to put it into. I've changed the section to doc and will upload the package soon (that is around the time I'll get the maintainer account). Paul -- (___) | Pawel Wiecek - | o o | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \ ^ / | WWW:http://www.ists.pwr.wroc.pl/~coven/| () | * * * To err is human, to moo bovine * * * | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: a.s.r manpages
Hi, Alexander == Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alexander Such pearls of wisdom need to be what they're done Alexander for... Showing up with man... Alexander Nobody will die because of that... Hopefully. Fine, as long as the desciption field is clear that these ``manual pages'' are meant to be humor and should be taken with a grain of salt ... manoj -- FIELD TESTED: manufacturer lacks test equipment. Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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'J.H.M.Dassen wrote:' On May 26, Manoj Srivastava wrote Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games? Check out the manpages at http://www.bofh.net/man/: lart - Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool - use a lart to adjust lusers' attitudes sysadmin - responsible for everything imaginable that may or may not have to do with the system you're using. Contraction of system and administrator Clearly these belong in section admin, priority important ;) -- Christopher J. Fearnley | Linux/Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Design Science Revolutionary http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf | Explorer in Universe ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf | Dare to be Naive -- Bucky Fuller -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
