Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: First we need to solve the IMHO broken Alternatives Settings of those Perl Packages. They messed up my System more than one. See the BTS, there are patches (#80143). Someone should NMU it, it's absurd it's been left so broken for so long. perl-5.6-base is removing all the old perl alternatives and replacing the files of older versions in thepostinst. IMHO a policy violation at least. No it's not, the alternatives system was broken, the maintainer of perl is free to realize this and correct it. Well I haven't seen any informed or valid objections to me filing the 80-some bugs; I guess it'll do it tomorrow. -- see shy jo, who is tempted to ask for policy chapter and verse
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules. I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6. Last I heard, they weren't playing well together. I'm just a lazy bum. It works fine; I got the main modperl packages out and got derailed by the perl 5.6 bug that was breaking apacheconfig. I'll try to do apache-perl when I get back to school in January (two weeks). Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobowitz|__|SCS Class of 2002 | | Debian GNU/Linux Developer__Carnegie Mellon University | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \/ \/
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
Le Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:24:34AM -0800, Joey Hess écrivait: liblocale-gettext-perl libmldbm-perl dpkg-ftp Those 3 are mine. I've just done it. No need to file a bug. perl-5.005-suid This one should not be updated :) Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/ Le bouche à oreille du Net : http://www.beetell.com Naviguez sans se fatiguer à chercher : http://www.deenoo.com Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:24:34AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: I'm planning a mass automated -quiet bug reporting spree against almost all packages that depend on perl 5.00{5,4}[-base]. All such packages should be updated to depend on perl-5.6 (possibly with 5.005 as an alternate). ITYM -maintonly. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
all packages that depend on perl 5.00{5,4}[-base]. All such packages should be updated to depend on perl-5.6 (possibly with 5.005 as an alternate). I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules. It's no use if I got hmm say Apache::DBI module, but perl5.6 can't find it because it's in 5.005 tree, and DBD::Pg hidden in 5.005 tree, that cannot be used by 5.6 due to some binary incompatibilities. Current situation - with perl5.00x handling old modules and perl5.6 newer ones seems the best for stability of a system. Of course it's a bit confusing to admin. Or did I got completely confused and misunderstood the case? reg. eyck.
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules. I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6. Last I heard, they weren't playing well together. Of course it's a bit confusing to admin. Life is complex.
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules. I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6. Last I heard, they weren't playing well together. I can verify that it works, we did a local recompile: Package: libapache-mod-perl Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: web Installed-Size: 1032 Maintainer: Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 1.24.01-2 Depends: apache-common (= 1.3.14-0), apache-common ( 1.3.15-0), perl-5.6, libwww-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libdevel-symdump-perl, data-dumper, liburi-perl, libc6 (= 2.1.97), libperl5.6 (= 5.6.0) It also seems to be working fine. -- The idea is that the first face shown to people is one they can readily accept - a more traditional logo. The lunacy element is only revealed subsequently, via the LunaDude. [excerpted from the Lunatech Identity Manual]
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:13PM +0100, I wrote: I can verify that it works, we did a local recompile: Maybe we did, but I can't read apt-cache output because this version comes simply from unstable. So no ifs and whens, it's already done and it works. -- The idea is that the first face shown to people is one they can readily accept - a more traditional logo. The lunacy element is only revealed subsequently, via the LunaDude. [excerpted from the Lunatech Identity Manual]
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
Dariush Pietrzak wrote: It's no use if I got hmm say Apache::DBI module, but perl5.6 can't find it because it's in 5.005 tree, and DBD::Pg hidden in 5.005 tree, that cannot be used by 5.6 due to some binary incompatibilities. Um, afaik perl 5.6 is fully binary compatable, and it certianly looks at the entire 5.005 tree. -- see shy jo
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:12:19PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote: Or did I got completely confused and misunderstood the case? First we need to solve the IMHO broken Alternatives Settings of those Perl Packages. They messed up my System more than one. perl-5.6-base is removing all the old perl alternatives and replacing the files of older versions in thepostinst. IMHO a policy violation at least. Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl!
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote: I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6. Last I heard, they weren't playing well together. Works for me with slash. I only need to fix the Perl alternatives. Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl!