Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-27 Thread Joey Hess
Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
 First we need to solve the IMHO broken Alternatives Settings of those Perl
 Packages. They messed up my System more than one.

See the BTS, there are patches (#80143). Someone should NMU it, it's absurd
it's been left so broken for so long.

 perl-5.6-base is removing
 all the old perl alternatives and replacing the files of older versions in
 thepostinst. IMHO a policy violation at least.

No it's not, the alternatives system was broken, the maintainer of perl
is free to realize this and correct it. 


Well I haven't seen any informed or valid objections to me filing the
80-some bugs; I guess it'll do it tomorrow.

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-27 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote:
 On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl
  recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules.
 
 I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6.
 Last I heard, they weren't playing well together.

I'm just a lazy bum.  It works fine; I got the main modperl packages
out and got derailed by the perl 5.6 bug that was breaking
apacheconfig.  I'll try to do apache-perl when I get back to school in
January (two weeks).

Dan

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:24:34AM -0800, Joey Hess écrivait:
 liblocale-gettext-perl
 libmldbm-perl
 dpkg-ftp

Those 3 are mine. I've just done it. No need to file a bug.

 perl-5.005-suid

This one should not be updated :)

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:24:34AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
 I'm planning a mass automated -quiet bug reporting spree against almost
 all packages that depend on perl 5.00{5,4}[-base]. All such packages 
 should be updated to depend on perl-5.6 (possibly with 5.005 as an
 alternate).

ITYM -maintonly.

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Dariush Pietrzak

  all packages that depend on perl 5.00{5,4}[-base]. All such packages 
  should be updated to depend on perl-5.6 (possibly with 5.005 as an
  alternate).
I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl
recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules.
It's no use if I got hmm say Apache::DBI module, but perl5.6 can't find it
because it's in 5.005 tree, and DBD::Pg hidden in 5.005 tree, that cannot
be used by 5.6 due to some binary incompatibilities.
Current situation - with perl5.00x handling old modules and perl5.6 newer
ones seems the best for stability of a system. Of course it's a bit
confusing to admin.
Or did I got completely confused and misunderstood the case?

reg. eyck.




Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl
 recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules.

I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6.
Last I heard, they weren't playing well together.

 Of course it's a bit confusing to admin.

Life is complex.




Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote:
 On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl
  recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules.
 
 I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6.
 Last I heard, they weren't playing well together.

I can verify that it works, we did a local recompile:

Package: libapache-mod-perl
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: web
Installed-Size: 1032
Maintainer: Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 1.24.01-2
Depends: apache-common (= 1.3.14-0), apache-common ( 1.3.15-0),
perl-5.6, libwww-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libdevel-symdump-perl,
data-dumper, liburi-perl, libc6 (= 2.1.97), libperl5.6 (= 5.6.0)

It also seems to be working fine.

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:13PM +0100, I wrote:
 I can verify that it works, we did a local recompile:

Maybe we did, but I can't read apt-cache output because this version
comes simply from unstable.

So no ifs and whens, it's already done and it works.

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Joey Hess
Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
 It's no use if I got hmm say Apache::DBI module, but perl5.6 can't find it
 because it's in 5.005 tree, and DBD::Pg hidden in 5.005 tree, that cannot
 be used by 5.6 due to some binary incompatibilities.

Um, afaik perl 5.6 is fully binary compatable, and it certianly looks at
the entire 5.005 tree.

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:12:19PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
 Or did I got completely confused and misunderstood the case?

First we need to solve the IMHO broken Alternatives Settings of those Perl
Packages. They messed up my System more than one. perl-5.6-base is removing
all the old perl alternatives and replacing the files of older versions in
thepostinst. IMHO a policy violation at least.

Greetings
Bernd
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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-26 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote:
 I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6.
 Last I heard, they weren't playing well together.

Works for me with slash. I only need to fix the Perl alternatives.

Greetings
Bernd
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