Re: snapshot.d.o has been in a bad state for several months

2023-08-11 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2023-08-02 13:33, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote:
> snapshot.debian.org is getting worse again. There is not a single snapshot for
> August yet and the last days of July are spotty:
[...]
> I'd argue that snapshot.d.o is part of the central services Debian provides 
> and
> it should work better than it does right now.

I second this, snapshot.d.o pas proven to be an invaluable tool for
reproducing issues.

Is there any way we can help resolve the open issues?

Best,
Christian



Re: snapshot.d.o has been in a bad state for several months

2023-08-09 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 08:31:09AM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> "Theodore Ts'o"  writes:
> 
> > I was curious about this, since I rely on snapshots.debian.org in
> > order to create repeatable builds for a file system test appliance, so
> > I started digging a bit.  Looking at the debian-bugs pseudo-package
> > "snapshot.debian.org":
> >
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=snapshot.debian.org
> >
> > the maintainer is listed as:
> >
> > "snapshot.debian.org Team "
> >
> > But according to lists.debian.org, "debian-shaphots" is a dead list,
> 
> "debian-shaphots" != "debian-shapshot" :-)
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshot/

Ah, I see.  I was looking for the mailing list under:

https://lists.debian.org/devel.html

and that seems to where the old debian-snapshots list.  I guess at
some point ten years ago that list was killed, and debian-snapshot was
created under:

   https://lists.debian.org/misc.html


BTW, it also looks like not only are some snapshots not being taken,
some of the snapshots are missing packages.   For example:

   https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20230806T091912Z/

is missing the package libc-dev-bin, and:

   https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20230807T150823Z/

is missing the package dbus.  Which is something that I'm finding when
I try building an kvm-xfstests VM using:

https://github.com/tytso/xfstests-bld/blob/master/test-appliance/gen-image

Ah, well, I guess I'll try the snapshot for 20230805T151946Z next

   - Ted



Re: snapshot.d.o has been in a bad state for several months

2023-08-09 Thread Bjørn Mork
"Theodore Ts'o"  writes:

> I was curious about this, since I rely on snapshots.debian.org in
> order to create repeatable builds for a file system test appliance, so
> I started digging a bit.  Looking at the debian-bugs pseudo-package
> "snapshot.debian.org":
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=snapshot.debian.org
>
> the maintainer is listed as:
>
>   "snapshot.debian.org Team "
>
> But according to lists.debian.org, "debian-shaphots" is a dead list,

"debian-shaphots" != "debian-shapshot" :-)

https://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshot/


Bjørn



Re: snapshot.d.o has been in a bad state for several months

2023-08-09 Thread Jochen Sprickerhof

Hi Ted,

* Theodore Ts'o  [2023-08-08 20:28]:

I was curious about this, since I rely on snapshots.debian.org in


   ^ snapshot ;)


order to create repeatable builds for a file system test appliance, so
I started digging a bit.  Looking at the debian-bugs pseudo-package
"snapshot.debian.org":

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=snapshot.debian.org

the maintainer is listed as:

"snapshot.debian.org Team "

But according to lists.debian.org, "debian-shaphots" is a dead list,
and apparently the last archived message to the list is from September
2001:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshots/

  ^ snapshot ;)

The list is here and seems active:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshot/

@josch: maybe ask on that list as well.

Cheers Jochen


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Re: snapshot.d.o has been in a bad state for several months

2023-08-08 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 01:33:11PM +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> snapshot.debian.org is getting worse again. There is not a single snapshot for
> August yet and the last days of July are spotty:
> 
> http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/?year=2023=7
> 
> None for the 29. and only a single timestamp for the 26., 27., 28. and 30.
> There should be four per day. The situation is even worse for other archives.
> For debian-ports, for the month of July, there are only 22 snapshots overall:
> 
> http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/?year=2023=7
> 
> This problem has been known for half a year already:
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1031628
> 
> But that bug got closed in favor of #1029744 which was filed because
> debian-ports had no snapshots at all for January and only three for February
> this year but there is no reply to that bug.
> 
> In #1031628 Julien said that there is "not much we can do about it at the
> moment".
> 
> What is the status of this problem? What is needed to fix it? Is this just a
> problem of computational and/or storage resources which an be fixed by the
> funds available to Debian?

I was curious about this, since I rely on snapshots.debian.org in
order to create repeatable builds for a file system test appliance, so
I started digging a bit.  Looking at the debian-bugs pseudo-package
"snapshot.debian.org":

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=snapshot.debian.org

the maintainer is listed as:

"snapshot.debian.org Team "

But according to lists.debian.org, "debian-shaphots" is a dead list,
and apparently the last archived message to the list is from September
2001:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshots/

That seems unfortunate.

- Ted