Re: supporting navigation mouse buttons in Debian

2006-03-12 Thread David Nusinow
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 10:21:46PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I was recently browsing the web on a windows box and realized that
 over the last 4 years, I had forgotten how nice it is to be able
 browse back/forward with a single button click.  So I set about
 enabling this functionality on my Debian box.  I found this gentoo doc
 (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons) very helpful.
 
 Now, my question is, would it be possible to work toward supporting
 nav buttons out of the box in Debian?  I know that there are
 probably a lot of issues because there is no hardware standard for the
 nav buttons, but maybe there would be a way to store configuration for
 all the hardware.  The gentoo doc is geared toward enabling
 back/forward nav in mozilla only, so there may need to be some thought
 put into a way to generalize this.
 
 Is anyone else interested in making nav buttons work out of the box,
 and would it be worthwhile to work on?  This would likely involve
 (hopefully minor) changes to a lot of parts of the distribution.
 
 I think this capability is important because I remember when I first
 switched that I was disappointed that the nav buttons didn't work.  I
 stuck with it, but it could be enough to turn away a significant
 number of new users who are stuck in the windows mud.  One of the
 gnome HIG is along the lines of provide an interface that the user
 expects and don't suprise them.  I look forward to any thoughts on
 this matter.

Looking at the doc it seems like the vast majority of the configuration
issues are for the X server. Please feel free to file patches against the
xserver-xorg package's scripts for generating config files, or against the
xserver itself for properly detecting and supporting these buttons. Note
that upstream is currently rewriting the evdev driver to better take
advantage of more advanced setups (and I plan to ship this driver in Debian
as soon as I get a chance) so you should take that in to account. I don't
own a mouse that can take advantage of such a configuration, so I don't
have the ability, let alone the desire, to write such patches myself for
the package, but I'd be happy to look over and potentially apply worthwhile
patches on the issue. Please note that the usual way to do this is by
filing a wishlist bug against the package, and I'd appreciate it if you use
this mechanism so I can keep track of it easily.

 - David Nusinow


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Re: supporting navigation mouse buttons in Debian

2006-03-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On 3/12/06, David Nusinow wrote:
 Please note that the usual way to do this is by
 filing a wishlist bug against the package, and I'd appreciate it if you use
 this mechanism so I can keep track of it easily.

ok, will do.  i didn't think that this discussion fit nicely under a
single package.  i will file as an xserver-xorg wishlist item.  i'll
see what i can do in terms of making contributions as well.

mike



Re: supporting navigation mouse buttons in Debian

2006-03-11 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h
* Michael Gilbert [Sat, Mar 11 2006, 10:21:46PM]:
 Hello,
 
 I was recently browsing the web on a windows box and realized that
 over the last 4 years, I had forgotten how nice it is to be able
 browse back/forward with a single button click.  So I set about
 enabling this functionality on my Debian box.  I found this gentoo doc
 (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons) very helpful.

First, this Howto is not completely correct (modprobe evdev to run
xev? wtf).

Second, I assume that the evdev X module is going to replace all that
ugly workarounds with mouse button counting for ZAxisMapping and
guessing the correct driver etc.

The only thing I am missing in the evdev driver is the ability to pick
up the correct device by itself. X in /dev/input/eventX may change all
the time, the thing would not as smooth as /dev/input/mice for the old
drivers untill somebody implements autodetection of the supported
devices.

Cc'ed to correct list.

Eduard.


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