Re: Problems with pr06 of Sarge-based debian-edu

2005-12-13 Thread Finn-Arne Johansen
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Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
 Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
 
A lot of time has passed since last prerelease, and some bug changes
have been done

The biggest change is that we use new ltsp-packages, which is built by
debian packages. Since this is more or less the same tools that is used
with lessdisks, lessdisks is no longer on the CD. 
 
 
 This is an advisory to not use this preRelease for production, and a
 call for help.
 
 While we have tested the new LTSP a lot on different thin clients, there
 was one important test that we had not done yet. And that one was
 big-scale testing. What we found out yesterday, is that there is some
 kind of locking problem, that we dont see when we test with one client
 at the time, but that hits us hard when using more than one client.
 What happens is when you boot more than 1 client at once, all but 1
 clients are experiencing NFS-timouts

I found what package is causing this, and maybe then someone can tell
what is wrong with the package.

It looks like initrd-netboot-tools from etch has some problems. If I use
initrd-netboot-tools from sarge, my little test-network here which
consists of an old workstation as server, and 2 thin clients booting
PXE, behaves much better.

so here is my preliminary advise for those who want to use pr06 and the
new ltsp:
 echo deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib  \
/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list
 mount -t proc proc /opt/ltsp/i386/proc
 chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get update
 chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get install \
initrd-netboot-tools=0.5.3cvs.20040906-16
 chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386
 ln -sf /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/vmlinuz /opt/ltsp/boot/initrd.img \
/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp


Please test this, and if you have a larger network to test on, please
give feedback at http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=991

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Re: Problems with pr06 of Sarge-based debian-edu

2005-12-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:31:13 +0100
Finn-Arne Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I found what package is causing this, and maybe then someone can tell
 what is wrong with the package.
 
 It looks like initrd-netboot-tools from etch has some problems. If I
 use initrd-netboot-tools from sarge, my little test-network here which
 consists of an old workstation as server, and 2 thin clients booting
 PXE, behaves much better.

Please file a bugreport against initrd-netboot-tools.

I am the maintainer of that package, but discussing the details makes
better sense through the BTS than here due to other clever folks
subscribing there too.


 - Jonas

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Re: Problems with pr06 of Sarge-based debian-edu

2005-12-13 Thread Knut Yrvin
tirsdag 13 desember 2005, 14:53, skrev Jonas Smedegaard:
 Please file a bugreport against initrd-netboot-tools.

 I am the maintainer of that package, but discussing the details makes
 better sense through the BTS than here due to other clever folks
 subscribing there too.

I worte this bug-report after reading the «How to report a bug in Debian». I 
believe Finn-Arne should submit this: 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Finn-Arne Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New LTSP don't accept more than on client 

Package: initrd-netboot-tools from etch
Version: 0.7.0b-2:

Finn-Arne Johansen reports (2005-12-13): 

While we have tested the new LTSP a lot on different thin clients,
there was one important test that we had not done yet. And that one
was big-scale testing. What we found out yesterday, is that there is
some kind of locking problem. What happens is when you boot more than
1 client at once, all but 1 clients are experiencing NFS-timeouts.

Also, if you have some clients already booted, and ready to use, log
in on one ore more of them, then boot a new clients, you will
experience that your clients are locked while the last client is
booting.

It looks like initrd-netboot-tools from etch has some problems. If I use
initrd-netboot-tools from sarge, my little test-network here which
consists of an old workstation as server, and 2 thin clients booting
PXE, behaves much better.

so here is my preliminary advise for those who want to use pr06 and the
new ltsp:

 echo deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib  \
/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list
 mount -t proc proc /opt/ltsp/i386/proc
 chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get update
 chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get install \
initrd-netboot-tools=0.5.3cvs.20040906-16
 chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386
 ln -sf /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/vmlinuz /opt/ltsp/boot/initrd.img \
/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp

We were testing Skolelinux pr06 based on Debian sarge with
initrd-netboot-tools from etch

http://d.skolelinux.no/info/cdbygging/news.html



Re: Problems with pr06 of Sarge-based debian-edu

2005-12-13 Thread Finn-Arne Johansen
Knut Yrvin wrote:
 tirsdag 13 desember 2005, 14:53, skrev Jonas Smedegaard:
 
Please file a bugreport against initrd-netboot-tools.

I am the maintainer of that package, but discussing the details makes
better sense through the BTS than here due to other clever folks
subscribing there too.
 
 
 I worte this bug-report after reading the «How to report a bug in Debian». I 
 believe Finn-Arne should submit this: 

It's nice that people tell others what to do.

And to teach the rest of us how to do things.

I'm not even sure who is teaching who.
Maybe people could help finding the bug instead ?
Or, if bugs.debian.org was responding, you could search either by
package name, or by submitters email address to see if something happens.

Why do I even bother ..

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Re: Problems with pr06 of Sarge-based debian-edu

2005-12-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:07:55 +0100
Finn-Arne Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's nice that people tell others what to do.
 
 And to teach the rest of us how to do things.

Sorry - I did not mean to be rude.

The reason I suggest you file the bugreport is that it seemed to me
that you are hit by the bug, so valuable in resolving the bug.

By no means I wanted to push extra workload your way. This is all
voluntary[1].


 - Jonas

[1] Debian is _not_ a do-o-cracy ;-)

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