Bug#556173: Bug#564874: Bug#556173: libc-bin: introduces custom manual pages / manpages package
Hi,
Do you have a position regarding this ?
TL;DR: better manpages may be provided by manpages pkg:
http://people.debian.org/~spaillard/libc-or-manpages/
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:48:51PM +0200, Simon Paillard wrote:
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:34:55AM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote:
Package: libc-bin
Version: 2.10.1-5
Severity: wishlist
The Debian glibc package introduces a number of custom manual pages
which are not in any kind of upstream and thus cannot be shared with
the rest of Linux community, which is quite unfortunate, since it
reduces usability of other Linux distributions but also reduces quality
of the documentation since less people see it and work on it.
While upstream glibc does not maintain any manual pages, the
linux-man-pages projects collects all kind of Linux-related manual
pages, including glibc-specific manual pages not only on the API, but
also on tools (like ldd). It would be great if the Debian-specific
manual pages could be submitted there for review and inclusion.
For some manual pages that _are_ upstream, e.g. ldd.1, the upstream
version is more up-to-date than the version currently included; this
should also demonstrate the value of taking these manpages from
upstream. :)
On this subject, manpages-linux provides some manpages which are installed by
manpages packages today:
libc-bin: ldd.1|ldconfig.8|ld.so.8|gai.conf.5
You can find libc-bin and manpages copy of these manpages at:
http://people.debian.org/~spaillard/libc-or-manpages/
Except ldconfig.8 which are better in libc-bin IMO, all other
could be installed by manpages.
Some per-page bugs were reported earlier:
#564874 ld.so.8 an old request arrived too late for Wheezy, and ld.so
by
manpages-linux provides way more details.
#665303 getent.1 has been fixed some month ago
If you agree with this, the next manpages{,dev} upload will replace libc-bin
with appropriate version, then you can drop them.
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Bug#556173: libc-bin: introduces custom manual pages / manpages package
Simon Paillard wrote:
Do you have a position regarding this ?
[...]
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:48:51PM +0200, Simon Paillard wrote:
If you agree with this, the next manpages{,dev} upload will replace libc-bin
with appropriate version, then you can drop them.
Please go ahead. (I'm not an eglibc maintainer, but it seems so
obviously the right thing to do that I don't mind saying that
anyway.)
If you'd like, I think it even makes sense to replace the ldconfig.8
manpage, just taking the content from the eglibc package for now.
That would avoid having to keep juggling which package has which
manpage in the future.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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Bug#556173: libc-bin: introduces custom manual pages / manpages package
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 01:27:06PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
If you agree with this, the next manpages{,dev} upload will replace
libc-bin
with appropriate version, then you can drop them.
Please go ahead. (I'm not an eglibc maintainer, but it seems so
obviously the right thing to do that I don't mind saying that
anyway.)
Except that since he'll want to do a versioned Replaces, we can't
tell him to just go ahead until we've committed to a version where
we intend to drop them.
I'll look at this for either the next 2.17 upload or the 2.18 that
I need to start staging in experimental soon, but please don't go
uploading manpages with the replaces until we have a solid idea of
the version that needs to be replacing. :P
... Adam
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Bug#556173: libc-bin: introduces custom manual pages / manpages package
Hi,
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:34:55AM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote:
Package: libc-bin
Version: 2.10.1-5
Severity: wishlist
The Debian glibc package introduces a number of custom manual pages
which are not in any kind of upstream and thus cannot be shared with
the rest of Linux community, which is quite unfortunate, since it
reduces usability of other Linux distributions but also reduces quality
of the documentation since less people see it and work on it.
While upstream glibc does not maintain any manual pages, the
linux-man-pages projects collects all kind of Linux-related manual
pages, including glibc-specific manual pages not only on the API, but
also on tools (like ldd). It would be great if the Debian-specific
manual pages could be submitted there for review and inclusion.
For some manual pages that _are_ upstream, e.g. ldd.1, the upstream
version is more up-to-date than the version currently included; this
should also demonstrate the value of taking these manpages from
upstream. :)
On this subject, manpages-linux provides some manpages which are installed by
manpages packages today:
libc-bin: ldd.1|ldconfig.8|ld.so.8|gai.conf.5
You can find libc-bin and manpages copy of these manpages at:
http://people.debian.org/~spaillard/libc-or-manpages/
Except ldconfig.8 which are better in libc-bin IMO, all other
could be installed by manpages.
Some per-page bugs were reported earlier:
#564874 ld.so.8 an old request arrived too late for Wheezy, and ld.so
by
manpages-linux provides way more details.
#665303 getent.1 has been fixed some month ago
If you agree with this, the next manpages{,dev} upload will replace libc-bin
with appropriate version, then you can drop them.
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Simon Paillard
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