reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread Djalma Fadel Junior
Hi there,

I'm using debian with bind 9 and itsn't reverse resolving.

bind version: ii  bind9  9.2.4-1

The problem is that I cannot resolve IPs.

# host 200.247.36.2
Host 2.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)


# host helium.prodar.com.br
helium.prodar.com.br has address 200.247.36.2


---
my named.conf.local:
zone 0/25.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {
type master;
file /etc/bind/zones/200.247.36;
};
---
my 200.247.36 file:
$TTL 3D
@   IN SOA  helium.prodar.com.br. hostmaster.prodar.com.br (
200411193
604800
86400
2419200
604800 )

IN NS   helium.prodar.com.br.

1   IN PTR  hydrogenium.prodar.com.br.
2   IN PTR  helium.prodar.com.br.
---


can someone give me a light?

thanks in advance.

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Re: reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Djalma,

 my named.conf.local:
 zone 0/25.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {

i'd try making this read:
zone 36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {

for a start.. i.e. without the 0/25.

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Re: reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 18:02, Djalma Fadel Junior wrote:
 my named.conf.local:
 zone 0/25.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {
 25 (if this is a direct delegation -- your value otherwise)
 $TTL 3D
$ORIGIN 36.247.200.in-addr.arpa

You need your nameserver in your resolv.conf or a proper rDNS delegation
by your provider.

Regards,
Philipp Kern


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Re: reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread Jacob S
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:02:40 -0200
Djalma Fadel Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 I'm using debian with bind 9 and itsn't reverse resolving.
 
 bind version: ii  bind9  9.2.4-1
 
 The problem is that I cannot resolve IPs.
 
 # host 200.247.36.2
 Host 2.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
 
 
 # host helium.prodar.com.br
 helium.prodar.com.br has address 200.247.36.2

Are you sure that reverse dns has been delegated to you? Even the T1
provider we use at work won't give us a reverse delegation these days.
You have to talk to them and get them to setup reverse dns to look like
you want it to - even though name to ip resolution works normally.

HTH,
Jacob


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Re: reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread Nate Duehr
Kilian Krause wrote:
Hi Djalma,
 

my named.conf.local:
zone 0/25.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {
   

i'd try making this read:
zone 36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {
for a start.. i.e. without the 0/25.
 

Yes, this would be problematic unless for some odd reason you had a 
directory named 0. 

The other comments about having to have your upstream ISP delegate the 
reverses properly is important also - and they can't just do it and tell 
you it's done.  They have to provide you their naming convention for 
the delegated zones so you can line yours up with theirs.

(I guess they *could* just tell you it's done and then you'd have to 
use dig to figure out exactly how they did it, which is fine also...)

Nate
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Re: reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread Andrew Miehs
He can look at the problem later, at the moment
It seems that his name server isn't working correctly...
If he wants other people to see his reverse entries, he will
have to go talk to his provider
Andrew

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:53:16 +0100
andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shouldnt this just be
zone 36.247.200.in-addr.apra  
i tried, but doesn't work.
so I got the following error
Host 2.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa not found: 2(SERVFAIL)

what do you have in your /etc/resolv.conf?
dns server resolv.conf file:
search helium.prodar.com.br prodar.com.br
nameserver 127.0.0.1


On 23.11.2004, at 19:04, Jacob S wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:02:40 -0200
Djalma Fadel Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there,
I'm using debian with bind 9 and itsn't reverse resolving.
bind version: ii  bind9  9.2.4-1
The problem is that I cannot resolve IPs.
# host 200.247.36.2
Host 2.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
# host helium.prodar.com.br
helium.prodar.com.br has address 200.247.36.2
Are you sure that reverse dns has been delegated to you? Even the T1
provider we use at work won't give us a reverse delegation these days.
You have to talk to them and get them to setup reverse dns to look like
you want it to - even though name to ip resolution works normally.
HTH,
Jacob
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Re: reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread Djalma Fadel Junior
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:52:38 +0100
Kilian Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Djalma,
 
  my named.conf.local:
  zone 0/25.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {
 
 i'd try making this read:
 zone 36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {

you're right. Without 25/0 worked, but when I installed (some months ago), it 
was working by that way, that is the way I read in BIND tutorial.
the server was upgraded recently.

do you know if this was changed in later versions?

is there some problem to keep zone 36.247.200.in-addr.arpa since I have set a 
/25 mask from my ISP? (from 0 to 127).

thanks you all

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Re: reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread JB
You are on the right track.  Saying
zone 0/25.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa
has nothing to do with the file/directory.
The file property inside the section deals with that.
This is proper RFC2317 reverse delegation but Nate is right in that your ISP 
must be on the same page with you when they do the delegation.  A couple 
years ago, I was working with an ISP in southern cal that was big enough to 
hire a full time DNS administration staff and they were all incompetent.  I 
had to teach them how to do this so don't be surprised if you have to do the 
same.   Making it read like this:
zone 36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {...
is a dirty hack and should not be done.  It also breaks reverse lookups for 
the rest of the hosts in that class C for you.

vec
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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: reverse name resolution


Kilian Krause wrote:
Hi Djalma,

my named.conf.local:
zone 0/25.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {
i'd try making this read:
zone 36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {
for a start.. i.e. without the 0/25.

Yes, this would be problematic unless for some odd reason you had a 
directory named 0.
The other comments about having to have your upstream ISP delegate the 
reverses properly is important also - and they can't just do it and tell 
you it's done.  They have to provide you their naming convention for the 
delegated zones so you can line yours up with theirs.

(I guess they *could* just tell you it's done and then you'd have to use 
dig to figure out exactly how they did it, which is fine also...)

Nate
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Re: reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi JB,

Am Dienstag, den 23.11.2004, 14:39 -0700 schrieb JB:
 You are on the right track.  Saying
 zone 0/25.36.247.200.in-addr.arpa
 has nothing to do with the file/directory.
 The file property inside the section deals with that.
 This is proper RFC2317 reverse delegation but Nate is right in that your ISP 
 must be on the same page with you when they do the delegation.  A couple 
 years ago, I was working with an ISP in southern cal that was big enough to 
 hire a full time DNS administration staff and they were all incompetent.  I 
 had to teach them how to do this so don't be surprised if you have to do the 
 same.   Making it read like this:
 zone 36.247.200.in-addr.arpa {...
 is a dirty hack and should not be done.  It also breaks reverse lookups for 
 the rest of the hosts in that class C for you.

well yes (though there was no notion of the /25 in the given config, so
how should i have known).. ;)

Assuming it's the inverse of the DNS it should be a
7/0.37.247.200.in-addr.arpa for a /25, right? 
(as in 32-25=7)

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Re: reverse name resolution

2004-11-23 Thread Vector
I'm sorry I thought the given config had 0/25 in it.
It has been a while since I was current on RFC2317 but I think it actually 
uses the netmask not the remaining bits that the network is on.

So in the case of a /25 if you have the lower 128 addresses like the 
gentlemen who started the tread then it would like like:

0/25.37.247.200.in-addr.arpa
but if he had the upper 128 then it would be more like:
128/25.37.247.200.in-addr.arpa
vec
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Subject: Re: reverse name resolution

well yes (though there was no notion of the /25 in the given config, so
how should i have known).. ;)
Assuming it's the inverse of the DNS it should be a
7/0.37.247.200.in-addr.arpa for a /25, right?
(as in 32-25=7)
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