Processed: Re: Bug#435909: Kcheckgmail language bug

2007-08-05 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#435909: kcheckgmail is not in correct language.
Bug reassigned from package `kcheckgmail' to `kdelibs'.

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Processed: Re: Bug#435760: kcheckgmail bug: always request certificate

2007-08-05 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#435760: kcheckgmail request a Google certificate everyday.
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 reassign 435760 kdelibs 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-1
Bug#435760: kcheckgmail request a Google certificate everyday.
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New PAM in experimental needs testing

2007-08-05 Thread Roger Leigh
Hi folks,

A new version of PAM (0.99.7.1-1) has been packaged and uploaded to
experimental.  This is intended to replace 0.79-4.  However, because
there have been quite a number of upstream changes, and all the
Debian-specific patches against the old one were painstakingly
re-diffed and updated by hand, and because a broken PAM means a rather
broken system, this new version needs some wider testing before it is
suitable for unstable.

The work for this was done by myself and Jan Christoph Nordholz, who
rewrote the @include patch, fixing a memory leak in the current code,
as well as doing a lot of testing, building and general reviewing of
the PAM packaging.  It's thanks to Jan that it's ready for wider
review, since I did all the rediffing back in April, but lacked time
to squash the last few bugs.

If anyone could take the time to install it, test all the services
using PAM for authentication/authorisation still work as expected, and
report any defects, that would be much appreciated.  If you want to
avoid breaking your system, it is advisable to install into a chroot.
However, we have tested that basic functionality does work (su and
passwd in particular), so it should be safe to install for real (but
no guarantees are given).

Additionally, all of the packages which Build-Depend, Depend or
Recommend PAM packages should be tested against the new packages.  A
complete list is given below, and the maintainer's Bcc'd with this
message.


If you do hack on the PAM sources, note that the dpatch patch order is
important--later patches do rely on earlier patches being present.
Also, you need to run debian/rules patch|unpatch by hand, due to the
need to re-bootstrap the autotools.  To do that debian/rules
bootstrap will do everything consistently, providing the patches are
applied.


Some bits which need wider review and discussion:

Several of the Debian-specific patches should probably be removed.
For example, the @include (Debian-specific) syntax should be replaced
by the include mechanism added by upstream; we should make this a
release goal for Lenny IMO.  Maintaining Debian-specific hacks imposes
a real burden on the PAM maintainers--it took over 15 man hours to do
the main re-diffing, and the same again to get it working, which is
ridiculous and error-prone.  We could easily be introducing
Debian-specific security bugs by doing so.  Some checks such as the
obscure checks for pam_unix and chroot limits for pam_limits should be
dropped (who uses this functionality)?  The obsure checks appear to
predate PAM, but should cracklib not be the replacement?  This
non-standard stuff should really be deprecated, obsoleted, then
dropped.  What do other people think about this?

The remaining patches should then really be pushed upstream, which
possible now we are synched with their latest stable release.

One other note: upstream now default to enabling cracklib in pam_unix
(in addition to pam_cracklib), which causes passwd to do all the extra
checks cracklib does.  This has been disabled for now after discussion
with Jan, because it brings in quite a few dependencies into base, and
may not be generally wanted.  It also breaks passwd if you don't have
cracklib-runtime *and* a wordlist *and* run update-cracklib, so this
needs some fixing of dependencies and coordination to do properly.  It
might be worth re-adding, if there was consensus for that.  I'm not
yet sure how this differs from the pam_cracklib functionality,
however.


Regards,
Roger


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Bug#435867: kmail: Please only suggest instead of recommend procmail

2007-08-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Friday 03 August 2007, Wolf Wiegand wrote:
 Package: kmail
 Version: 4:3.5.7-2
 Severity: normal

 Hi,

 inspired by a recent mail to d-d-announce
 (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/08/msg0.html):
 Debian policy says that only those packages should be recommended by
 a package that 'would be found together with this one [the recommending
 package] in all but unusual installations'.

 I don't think that using kmail without procmail
 is unusual, so please consider only suggesting this package in
 kmails dependency fields. Thanks!

It is recommends because it is needed. Not for procmail, but for 
the 'lockfile' utility in the procmail package. I agree that the use of 
procmail would just be of a 'suggests'-nature if mentioned at all, but 
several of the account types needs the lockfile command.

/Sune
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How may I link the window?

First of all you neither have to get access over the menu, nor must open a 
graphic POP button for debugging the microkernel over a modem of the DLL 
prompt of a Fast desktop to the line.


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Re: Bug#435093: konqueror does not show the correct language on websites

2007-08-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Friday 02 March 2007, Hans wrote:
 Package: konqueror
 Version: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6
 Severity: normal

 When calling some websites with konqueror, it should display the website in
 the language of the environment (in may case it is German). This behaviour
 is seen on the multilingual website of Debian (http://www.debian.org).

What does your user agent string say?

try look in the configure browser identification part of the konqueror 
configuration.

/Sune

 Thwe language is falling automatically back to English, even, if I choose
 the German site manually. Outgoing links on this German website should be
 displayed in German, too. They are not. They are falling back to English,
 too.

 Thanks for help !

 Best regards

 Hans

 :wq!



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Bug#436164: kpdf: Should link against poppler

2007-08-05 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Package: kpdf
Version: 4:3.5.7-3
Severity: important

[I'm considering this RC, but filing as important nonetheless for now]

kpdf embeds a copy of xpdf, which causes a huge maintenance overhead
whenever a security problem in found in xpdf.

For Lenny kpdf should link against the library version of the xpdf
source, poppler.

Cheers,
Moritz

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Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-1-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages kpdf depends on:
ii  kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-3 core libraries and binaries for al
ii  libc6   2.6-5GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libfontconfig1  2.4.2-1.2generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype62.3.5-1+b1   FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgcc1 1:4.2.1-1GCC support library
ii  libjpeg62   6b-13The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libpaper1   1.1.21   Library for handling paper charact
ii  libqt3-mt   3:3.3.7-6Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii  libstdc++6  4.2.1-1  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-62:1.0.3-7X11 client-side library
ii  libxft2 2.1.12-2 FreeType-based font drawing librar
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-5 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages kpdf recommends:
pn  kghostviewnone (no description available)

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Bug#436163: koffice: Needs to use poppler for Lenny

2007-08-05 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Package: koffice
Severity: important

[I'm considering this RC, but filing as important nonetheless for now]

koffice embeds a copy of xpdf, which causes a huge maintenance overhead
whenever a security problem in found in xpdf.

For Lenny koffice should link against the library version of the xpdf
source, poppler.

Cheers,
Moritz

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  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-1-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15)
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Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....

2007-08-05 Thread Charlie

Dietz Proepper wrote:

Charlie:
  

Have just subscribed to this list and using Icedove to post.
Using Debian Etch/Lenny
Have just been connected to satellite internet provider Clearnet who
have some Linux capable techs on their staff, but have not been able to
resolve a problem with Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7] in Debian testing.



These techs should train themselves regarding smtp ;-).
  
Interesting, they sent me a message through kmail from their end, and I 
received it, but couldn't reply to it.
  

If I attempt to send an email to myself, the test of the satellite
provider [smtp], or anyone else using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7],
with the new email address after setting the accounts up, I get an error
message:-

Sending failed:
Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
the server:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: relaying mail to
clearmail.com.au is not allowed)



This indicates that you could connect to the mail server but he rejected 
your mail for some reason. Therefore you should check this out with your 
email provider.
  
The provider couldn't discover why this should happen from my end. They 
had no problem sending to me through kmail from their end? They did 
describe a different configuration window, so assume they were using 
something like Ubuntu rather than Debian. It sounded like a more up to 
date kmail.
  

I have no problem sending through the old dialup provider and have used
Kmail for years. This is a new twist.



I'd assume that your satellite provider is blacklisted somewhere.

Dietz
  
Interesting as well? Icedove isn't blacklisted through that provider? 
Kmail is?


You may well be right, but why kmail and not Icedove?

Thanks for your suggestions.
Charlie


  



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Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....

2007-08-05 Thread Nick Leverton
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 06:37:14PM +1000, Charlie wrote:
   
 If I attempt to send an email to myself, the test of the satellite
 provider [smtp], or anyone else using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7],
 with the new email address after setting the accounts up, I get an error
 message:-

 Sending failed:
 Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
 the server:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: relaying mail to
 clearmail.com.au is not allowed)

This is your own ISP, and you are sending mail to them rather than to
another ISP - have I read that right ?  There are two things to check:
have you got the right server, and can you authenticate to it OK.

They don't seem to have a proper setup page, and there are slightly
conflicting setups in the examples they give.  Their FAQ at
http://www.clearnetworks.com.au/faq.html says:
'... using mail.clearmail.com.au as both your SMTP and POP3 servers,
and you have selected Authenticated SMTP'

OK it's talking about access from outside, but it does say the settings
would be the same.

However the page on how to setup Outlook Depress at
http://www.clearnetworks.com.au/support/wireless_email_oe_setup.pdf says
that you need to use an outgoing server specific to your town.

I hope that mail.clearmail.com.au will function but you may need to
check that detail with them.

As for authentication, it's quite simple to set up.  In
Kmail/Configure/Accounts/Sending, just tick the box server requires
authentication and put the username and password they've given you.
Then go to the Security tab and press check what the server supports.
I would expect it to automatically select TLS and one of the other
options.

OK through all that, and then give it a whirl, and let us know.
Unfortunately kmail isn't too hot at diagnostics but sometimes you can
catch an error message if you watch the progress dialogue after pressing
the blue up-arrow on the bottom right of the main window.

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Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....

2007-08-05 Thread Dietz Proepper
Charlie:
 Dietz Proepper wrote:
  Charlie:
  Have just subscribed to this list and using Icedove to post.
  Using Debian Etch/Lenny
  Have just been connected to satellite internet provider Clearnet who
  have some Linux capable techs on their staff, but have not been able
  to resolve a problem with Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7] in Debian
  testing.
 
  These techs should train themselves regarding smtp ;-).

 Interesting, they sent me a message through kmail from their end, and I
 received it, but couldn't reply to it.

Sending and receiving email can be two completely different beasts.

BTW, how (by which protocols) do you receive and send your mail?

  Sending failed:
  Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected
  by the server:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: relaying mail to
  clearmail.com.au is not allowed)
 
  This indicates that you could connect to the mail server but he
  rejected your mail for some reason. Therefore you should check this
  out with your email provider.

 The provider couldn't discover why this should happen from my end. They

The email provider (as opposed to the access (satellite) provider)? They 
should at least see something in their log files.

  I'd assume that your satellite provider is blacklisted somewhere.
 
  Dietz

 Interesting as well? Icedove isn't blacklisted through that provider?
 Kmail is?

 You may well be right, but why kmail and not Icedove?

Eh, you mean, icedove works and kmail fails? I must have overead that in 
your first mail. If they are configured the same way, this might indicate 
some glitch on kmail's side.


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Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....

2007-08-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 05 August 2007 10:37 schrieb Charlie:
 Interesting as well? Icedove isn't blacklisted through that provider?
 Kmail is?

So it's clear that your configuration may be wrong. Maybe IceDove uses a 
different port, does authentication (maybe even something sick like 
pop-before-smtp) or it's the message-id domain.
Also look at the output of both mails to check for differences.

A relay check in the smtp server can be configured to anything.

Also check that you are actually sending to the right smtp smarthost (View 
menu in the kmail mail editor window).

HS


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Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....

2007-08-05 Thread CS
On Sunday 05 August 2007 19:14, Nick Leverton sent this for all our perusal:
---} On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 06:37:14PM +1000, Charlie wrote:
---} 
---}  If I attempt to send an email to myself, the test of the satellite
---}  provider [smtp], or anyone else using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE
 3.5.7], ---}  with the new email address after setting the accounts up,
 I get an error ---}  message:-
---} 
---}  Sending failed:
---}  Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected
 by ---}  the server:
---}  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: relaying mail
 to ---}  clearmail.com.au is not allowed)
---}
---} This is your own ISP, and you are sending mail to them rather than to
---} another ISP - have I read that right ?  There are two things to check:
---} have you got the right server, and can you authenticate to it OK.
---}
---} They don't seem to have a proper setup page, and there are slightly
---} conflicting setups in the examples they give.  Their FAQ at
---} http://www.clearnetworks.com.au/faq.html says:
---} '... using mail.clearmail.com.au as both your SMTP and POP3
 servers, ---} and you have selected Authenticated SMTP'
---}
---} OK it's talking about access from outside, but it does say the settings
---} would be the same.
---}
---} However the page on how to setup Outlook Depress at
---} http://www.clearnetworks.com.au/support/wireless_email_oe_setup.pdf
 says ---} that you need to use an outgoing server specific to your town.
 ---}
---} I hope that mail.clearmail.com.au will function but you may need to
---} check that detail with them.
---}
---} As for authentication, it's quite simple to set up.  In
---} Kmail/Configure/Accounts/Sending, just tick the box server requires
---} authentication and put the username and password they've given you.
---} Then go to the Security tab and press check what the server
 supports. ---} I would expect it to automatically select TLS and one of
 the other ---} options.
---}
---} OK through all that, and then give it a whirl, and let us know.
---} Unfortunately kmail isn't too hot at diagnostics but sometimes you can
---} catch an error message if you watch the progress dialogue after
 pressing ---} the blue up-arrow on the bottom right of the main window.
---}
---} Nick
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 yourself ---}
---}

Am at an Internet Kiosk, where I volunteer some time this morning, and using 
Kmail to send test emails through the clearmail address, without any 
problems, without any changes in configuration to my lappy's Kmail 
configuration files. So it would appear to be an error with the Clearnetworks 
server which is giving me the problem, which doesn't get picked up in 
Icedove? Or maybe they have fixed it?

Will have to see when I get back home tonight.

Thank you to all for your help in trying to get this to work.

Be well,
Charlie

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