Re: Amarok, KMix: how to set sound volume for external audio adapter?

2010-03-17 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, Kenny Fairweather wrote:
 On 15/03/10 17:16, Michael Schuerig wrote:
  After quite some time I've looked at Amarok again now that 2.3 has
  made it into unstable. Somehow, I'm missing a way to set the sound
  volume. I didn't find a volume slider in Amarok itself and KMix,
  too, doesn't show any controls for my external Edirol UA-1EX sound
  adapter.
 
 Click on the speaker, top right, to get the slider. Or scroll wheel
 over the icon.

Consistency may be for small minds, like mine, but is this a bit non-
obvious? I had noticed the Mute functionality alright. I don't get a 
slider when I click on the speaker widget, rather, in order to set the 
volume, I have to drag along the widget's border in a circle. 
Thankfully, the scroll wheel does work too.

I'm not blaming you, of course. To the contrary, thanks for pointing out 
how this thing works. Still, I can't help but notice that this widget 
is, to my mind, exemplary of what has gone wrong in KDE 4 -- a 
preference for coolness over solid functionality. As a programmer myself 
I can easily understand how this comes about, especially in projects 
that are done for fun, not money. As a user, however, I don't have to 
like this.

Michael

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Re: Amarok, KMix: how to set sound volume for external audio adapter?

2010-03-17 Thread Carsten Pfeiffer
Am Mittwoch, 17. März 2010 schrieb Michael Schuerig:

Hi,

 I'm not blaming you, of course. To the contrary, thanks for pointing out
 how this thing works. Still, I can't help but notice that this widget
 is, to my mind, exemplary of what has gone wrong in KDE 4 -- a
 preference for coolness over solid functionality. As a programmer myself
 I can easily understand how this comes about, especially in projects
 that are done for fun, not money. As a user, however, I don't have to
 like this.

I agree that the volume widget is not quite obvious to find because it doesn't 
really look like a volume knob. Neither does the icon inside look like a 
loadspeaker to me. It looks more like a rotated waffle with a scoop of ice 
scream. Once recognized it's easy to use though. And combining it with a mute 
button is not a bad idea.

And to be fair, in all the announcements, the new toolbar is highlighted as 
experimental and user feedback is sought:

These include a new main toolbar and a rewritten and much simpler file 
browser. These parts are brand new and based on user feedback, and they will 
change and improve over the next few releases. The old slim toolbar is still 
available should you prefer that, but we encourage you to try out the new 
toolbar and tell us what you think.

Cheers,
Carsten (who always uses global shortcuts (Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Up/Down) to control 
the volume)


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Re: Amarok, KMix: how to set sound volume for external audio adapter?

2010-03-17 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, Carsten Pfeiffer wrote:
 Cheers,
 Carsten (who always uses global shortcuts (Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Up/Down) to
 control  the volume)

Me too, generally, but so far I didn't get it to work satisfactorily 
with two sound adapters, a built-in one and an external one. As I wrote, 
Phonon sees the external adapter and Amarok output is correctly routed 
there. However, KMix doesn't show the external adapter and that's why I 
asked about setting the volume to begin with.

Michael

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Re: Amarok, KMix: how to set sound volume for external audio adapter?

2010-03-16 Thread Kenny Fairweather

On 15/03/10 17:16, Michael Schuerig wrote:

After quite some time I've looked at Amarok again now that 2.3 has made
it into unstable. Somehow, I'm missing a way to set the sound volume. I
didn't find a volume slider in Amarok itself and KMix, too, doesn't show
any controls for my external Edirol UA-1EX sound adapter.

   
Click on the speaker, top right, to get the slider. Or scroll wheel over 
the icon.


Kenny


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Amarok, KMix: how to set sound volume for external audio adapter?

2010-03-15 Thread Michael Schuerig

After quite some time I've looked at Amarok again now that 2.3 has made 
it into unstable. Somehow, I'm missing a way to set the sound volume. I 
didn't find a volume slider in Amarok itself and KMix, too, doesn't show 
any controls for my external Edirol UA-1EX sound adapter.

Phonon does recognize the external adapter, it happily plays sound 
through it and it is displayed in the Multimedia System Settings. KMix 
does show tabs for the internal HDA Intel adapter and for my external 
webcam (Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000). However, the tab for the webcam 
contains no controls, older version of KMix/KDE did have controls there. 

I have already deleted ~/.kde/share/config/kmix*, but that didn't make a 
difference.

Michael

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