Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....
Dietz Proepper wrote: Charlie: Have just subscribed to this list and using Icedove to post. Using Debian Etch/Lenny Have just been connected to satellite internet provider Clearnet who have some Linux capable techs on their staff, but have not been able to resolve a problem with Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7] in Debian testing. These techs should train themselves regarding smtp ;-). Interesting, they sent me a message through kmail from their end, and I received it, but couldn't reply to it. If I attempt to send an email to myself, the test of the satellite provider [smtp], or anyone else using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7], with the new email address after setting the accounts up, I get an error message:- Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: relaying mail to clearmail.com.au is not allowed) This indicates that you could connect to the mail server but he rejected your mail for some reason. Therefore you should check this out with your email provider. The provider couldn't discover why this should happen from my end. They had no problem sending to me through kmail from their end? They did describe a different configuration window, so assume they were using something like Ubuntu rather than Debian. It sounded like a more up to date kmail. I have no problem sending through the old dialup provider and have used Kmail for years. This is a new twist. I'd assume that your satellite provider is blacklisted somewhere. Dietz Interesting as well? Icedove isn't blacklisted through that provider? Kmail is? You may well be right, but why kmail and not Icedove? Thanks for your suggestions. Charlie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 06:37:14PM +1000, Charlie wrote: If I attempt to send an email to myself, the test of the satellite provider [smtp], or anyone else using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7], with the new email address after setting the accounts up, I get an error message:- Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: relaying mail to clearmail.com.au is not allowed) This is your own ISP, and you are sending mail to them rather than to another ISP - have I read that right ? There are two things to check: have you got the right server, and can you authenticate to it OK. They don't seem to have a proper setup page, and there are slightly conflicting setups in the examples they give. Their FAQ at http://www.clearnetworks.com.au/faq.html says: '... using mail.clearmail.com.au as both your SMTP and POP3 servers, and you have selected Authenticated SMTP' OK it's talking about access from outside, but it does say the settings would be the same. However the page on how to setup Outlook Depress at http://www.clearnetworks.com.au/support/wireless_email_oe_setup.pdf says that you need to use an outgoing server specific to your town. I hope that mail.clearmail.com.au will function but you may need to check that detail with them. As for authentication, it's quite simple to set up. In Kmail/Configure/Accounts/Sending, just tick the box server requires authentication and put the username and password they've given you. Then go to the Security tab and press check what the server supports. I would expect it to automatically select TLS and one of the other options. OK through all that, and then give it a whirl, and let us know. Unfortunately kmail isn't too hot at diagnostics but sometimes you can catch an error message if you watch the progress dialogue after pressing the blue up-arrow on the bottom right of the main window. Nick -- http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (now updated!) ... So express yourself -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....
Charlie: Dietz Proepper wrote: Charlie: Have just subscribed to this list and using Icedove to post. Using Debian Etch/Lenny Have just been connected to satellite internet provider Clearnet who have some Linux capable techs on their staff, but have not been able to resolve a problem with Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7] in Debian testing. These techs should train themselves regarding smtp ;-). Interesting, they sent me a message through kmail from their end, and I received it, but couldn't reply to it. Sending and receiving email can be two completely different beasts. BTW, how (by which protocols) do you receive and send your mail? Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: relaying mail to clearmail.com.au is not allowed) This indicates that you could connect to the mail server but he rejected your mail for some reason. Therefore you should check this out with your email provider. The provider couldn't discover why this should happen from my end. They The email provider (as opposed to the access (satellite) provider)? They should at least see something in their log files. I'd assume that your satellite provider is blacklisted somewhere. Dietz Interesting as well? Icedove isn't blacklisted through that provider? Kmail is? You may well be right, but why kmail and not Icedove? Eh, you mean, icedove works and kmail fails? I must have overead that in your first mail. If they are configured the same way, this might indicate some glitch on kmail's side. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....
Am Sonntag 05 August 2007 10:37 schrieb Charlie: Interesting as well? Icedove isn't blacklisted through that provider? Kmail is? So it's clear that your configuration may be wrong. Maybe IceDove uses a different port, does authentication (maybe even something sick like pop-before-smtp) or it's the message-id domain. Also look at the output of both mails to check for differences. A relay check in the smtp server can be configured to anything. Also check that you are actually sending to the right smtp smarthost (View menu in the kmail mail editor window). HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kmail won't work with satellite provider....
On Sunday 05 August 2007 19:14, Nick Leverton sent this for all our perusal: ---} On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 06:37:14PM +1000, Charlie wrote: ---} ---} If I attempt to send an email to myself, the test of the satellite ---} provider [smtp], or anyone else using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7], ---} with the new email address after setting the accounts up, I get an error ---} message:- ---} ---} Sending failed: ---} Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by ---} the server: ---} [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: relaying mail to ---} clearmail.com.au is not allowed) ---} ---} This is your own ISP, and you are sending mail to them rather than to ---} another ISP - have I read that right ? There are two things to check: ---} have you got the right server, and can you authenticate to it OK. ---} ---} They don't seem to have a proper setup page, and there are slightly ---} conflicting setups in the examples they give. Their FAQ at ---} http://www.clearnetworks.com.au/faq.html says: ---} '... using mail.clearmail.com.au as both your SMTP and POP3 servers, ---} and you have selected Authenticated SMTP' ---} ---} OK it's talking about access from outside, but it does say the settings ---} would be the same. ---} ---} However the page on how to setup Outlook Depress at ---} http://www.clearnetworks.com.au/support/wireless_email_oe_setup.pdf says ---} that you need to use an outgoing server specific to your town. ---} ---} I hope that mail.clearmail.com.au will function but you may need to ---} check that detail with them. ---} ---} As for authentication, it's quite simple to set up. In ---} Kmail/Configure/Accounts/Sending, just tick the box server requires ---} authentication and put the username and password they've given you. ---} Then go to the Security tab and press check what the server supports. ---} I would expect it to automatically select TLS and one of the other ---} options. ---} ---} OK through all that, and then give it a whirl, and let us know. ---} Unfortunately kmail isn't too hot at diagnostics but sometimes you can ---} catch an error message if you watch the progress dialogue after pressing ---} the blue up-arrow on the bottom right of the main window. ---} ---} Nick ---} -- ---} http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (now updated!) ... So express yourself ---} ---} Am at an Internet Kiosk, where I volunteer some time this morning, and using Kmail to send test emails through the clearmail address, without any problems, without any changes in configuration to my lappy's Kmail configuration files. So it would appear to be an error with the Clearnetworks server which is giving me the problem, which doesn't get picked up in Icedove? Or maybe they have fixed it? Will have to see when I get back home tonight. Thank you to all for your help in trying to get this to work. Be well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ 'Come to the edge', he said. They said..'We are afraid'. 'Come to the edge', he said. They came, he pushed them And they flew. __Guillaume Apollinaire *** Debian - an experience in magic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kmail won't work with satellite provider....
Have just subscribed to this list and using Icedove to post. Using Debian Etch/Lenny Have just been connected to satellite internet provider Clearnet who have some Linux capable techs on their staff, but have not been able to resolve a problem with Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7] in Debian testing. If I attempt to send an email to myself, the test of the satellite provider [smtp], or anyone else using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7], with the new email address after setting the accounts up, I get an error message:- Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The server responded: relaying mail to clearmail.com.au is not allowed) The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder. I have no problem sending through the old dialup provider and have used Kmail for years. This is a new twist. Am wondering if someone might point me in the direction of a fix? Thanks in advance, Charlie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
