Re: Sound/aRTS/OSS

2002-09-12 Thread Charles Logan
 If you don't want to have to kickstart artsd like this, have it startup 
 when you log in, and set the timeout value in kcontrol-Sound-Sound 
 Server to  something very low (mine is 3 seconds).  Wine et. al. should 
 still work and your system sounds will work from the get-go.  

Thanks for the reply, David!  I think you're right on there.  In 
experimenting a bit, here's what I discovered.  In sound preferences, I have 
'start arts server at startup' unchecked.  As such, there is no system 
sounds, but I can use Windows media player under Wine and video/audio
works great in it.  If I go ahead and play a wav with noatun, xmms... any 
program, at that point artsd is off and running, and stays running.  If I 
then try using Wine/Mplayer, it errors out as the driver Wine is using is for 
OSS.  If I kill artsd, I'm back to the beginning, no system sounds, but Wine 
is fat, dumb and happy again.  There is an arts driver for Wine that I've 
tried, but the version I had was a bit buggy and caused more problems than it 
solved.  So, unless there's an option to use artsd only when needed, and have 
it unload when not, it a matter of utilizing whichever sound setup is needed 
for the program wanting to be used, ie: killing artsd manually if it's 
running and I'm going to use a Windows app.   Definitly not the end of the 
world... at least it's making a bit of sense to me now.  Thanks again!




Re: Sound/aRTS/OSS

2002-09-12 Thread David Bishop
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On Thursday 12 September 2002 07:00 pm, Charles Logan wrote:
  If you don't want to have to kickstart artsd like this, have it startup
  when you log in, and set the timeout value in kcontrol-Sound-Sound
  Server to  something very low (mine is 3 seconds).  Wine et. al. should
  still work and your system sounds will work from the get-go.

 Thanks for the reply, David!  I think you're right on there.  In
 experimenting a bit, here's what I discovered.  In sound preferences, I
 have 'start arts server at startup' unchecked.  As such, there is no system
 sounds, but I can use Windows media player under Wine and video/audio works
 great in it.  If I go ahead and play a wav with noatun, xmms... any
 program, at that point artsd is off and running, and stays running.  If I
 then try using Wine/Mplayer, it errors out as the driver Wine is using is
 for OSS.  If I kill artsd, I'm back to the beginning, no system sounds, but
 Wine is fat, dumb and happy again.  There is an arts driver for Wine that
 I've tried, but the version I had was a bit buggy and caused more problems
 than it solved.  So, unless there's an option to use artsd only when
 needed, and have it unload when not, it a matter of utilizing whichever
 sound setup is needed for the program wanting to be used, ie: killing artsd
 manually if it's running and I'm going to use a Windows app.   Definitly
 not the end of the world... at least it's making a bit of sense to me now. 
 Thanks again!

Um, that's *exactly* what I was saying with regards to the timeout: after 3 
seconds, artsd gives up the soundcard, and other apps can use it.  Though, 
it may only work if you don't have system sounds on, as whatever process 
plays the system sounds could be constantly polling artsd, keeping it active.  
As I said, I don't use them, so I don't know :-)  To test that, goto 
KControl-Sound-System Notifications-Disable All Sounds (at the bottom). 
Then set your timeout to something small (it's the Autosuspend if idle for x 
seconds option in the Sound Server module, use 10 or less).  Then, wait the 
ten seconds after playing something in noatun, and see if your wine apps 
works, using the OSS driver.

HTH!

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Re: Sound/aRTS/OSS

2002-09-12 Thread Charles Logan
 Um, that's *exactly* what I was saying with regards to the timeout: after 
 3 seconds, artsd gives up

Doh!  Well, daddy always said I was dumber than a box of rocks.  :)
I now see the light and it's bright!  That seems to be just what was
needed.  Wine/KDE/sys sounds... it's all humming (no pun intended)
along perfectly.  I really appreciate your help... sorry I was a bit slow on 
the uptake there.  :)   And you know, now that you mention it, those system 
sounds _are_ a bit annoying.   :)