Re: CECILL license status?

2005-08-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 05:32:37PM +0200, Achim Bohnet wrote:
 Hi,
 news about CECILL's DSFG status?

As far as i understood, CECILL can be transformed into the GPL, so it is DFSG
free by default. This seemed to be the concensus about this here last time it
was discussed.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: CECILL license status?

2005-08-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Sven Luther:

 On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 05:32:37PM +0200, Achim Bohnet wrote:
 Hi,
 news about CECILL's DSFG status?

 As far as i understood, CECILL can be transformed into the GPL, so it is DFSG
 free by default.

This is my interpretation as well.

 This seemed to be the concensus about this here last time it was
 discussed.

There was this follow-up Achim quoted, which might have confused him.
I don't understand it either.


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Re: CECILL license status?

2005-08-16 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Tuesday 16 August 2005 09:18, Florian Weimer wrote:
 * Sven Luther:
 
  On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 05:32:37PM +0200, Achim Bohnet wrote:
  Hi,
  news about CECILL's DSFG status?
 
  As far as i understood, CECILL can be transformed into the GPL, so it is 
  DFSG
  free by default.
 
 This is my interpretation as well.

Hi Sven, Florian,

Thx for the info!

Achim
 
  This seemed to be the concensus about this here last time it was
  discussed.
 
 There was this follow-up Achim quoted, which might have confused him.
 I don't understand it either.
 
 

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Bug#323533: DCC is non-free

2005-08-16 Thread Duncan Findlay
Package: dcc
Severity: serious

First (of course) IANAL. And I could be entirely wrong (I hope so).

It is my understanding that DCC (Distributed Checksum Clearinghouses)
is not free because of patent issues. According to the license at
http://www.dcc-servers.net/dcc/dcc-tree/LICENSE:

 * This agreement is not applicable to any entity which sells anti-spam
 * solutions to others or provides an anti-spam solution as part of a
 * security solution sold to other entities, or to a private network
 * which employs the DCC or uses data provided by operation of the DCC
 * but does not provide corresponding data to other users.

Furthermore:

 * Parties not eligible to receive a license under this agreement can
 * obtain a commercial license to use DCC and permission to use
 * U.S. Patent 6,330,590 by contacting Commtouch at http://www.commtouch.com/
 * or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I imagine past versions of DCC do not have this clause in their
license; however, they probably still infringe on the patent (which I
haven't read, not do I intend on reading), and still can not be
distributed in concordance with the DFSG.

Is this correct? Does DCC need to be removed from Debian?

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