Re: FYI: Creative Commons 4.0 process starts

2011-12-13 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:26:09AM +0100]:
  I hope Debian folks (especially ftpmasters) will be willing to
  subscribe to the cc-licenses list and help ensure that the CC 4.0
  licenses will be suitable for Debian.
 (...)
 So, to turn this into something even more useful: is there anyone
 willing to keep an eye on the CC process on behalf of Debian?
 
 The ideal candidate should be a license geek in agreement with the
 current position of the Debian Project on which licenses are DFSG-free
 and which are not.  We would all love if such a person will take care of
 reporting what is going on in the CC process, looking from a Debian
 angle, on a regular basis.

I am interested and willing to follow up on the discussion. I'll
subscribe to the list - Although I'm currently on a soft-vacation and
won't be able to pay too much attention until the beginning of January.


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Re: conflict between name and text of a license

2011-12-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:28:05PM +0100, Cédric Boutillier a écrit :
 
 I am packaging a software containing files with the COPYING file here
 attached. They have a double BSD and DR, but the text below BSD
 License is in fact that of the MIT/Expat license.

Dear Cédric,

since the Expat license is already a renamed MIT license, I think that you can
go ahead and call the syck's files license MIT or Expat.  If it is for a
copyright file in the DEP 5 format, it is preferred to call it Expat.

You can anyway add a comment reminding that the files' author wrongly called
the license BSD, if you would like.

If you think that we can not exclude that the author, when writing BSD,
really meant that he wants his software to be licensed under the same terms as
a BSD license, and not under the terms that he wrote, then maybe the safest
would be to help the upstream author who uses these files in unit tests to
replace them.  That would also have the advantage of getting rid of the DR,
which some (me for instance) may find bad taste.  One of the problems of saying
BSD is that it does not indicate the terms clearly, as for instance the first
version of the BSD license had a GPL-incompatible advertisemnt clause…

Have a nice day,

-- 
Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan


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Re: a Free Platform License?

2011-12-13 Thread Alexey Eromenko
Clark:
You should speak to FSF, and possibly to Richard Stallman himself
about this idea.

How to enforce such a license against porting software to Wine ?
I do not know...

Anyway: originally Free Software was very permissive (MIT-style), non-copyleft.
Then came in the GPL. Now came the AGPL to enforce Free Software for
Web / Cloud.

Will Free Platform License be the next step ? It *is* clearly a
stronger copyleft than both GPL and AGPL.
And yes, I agree it will open a new window of dual-license companies.

GPL-compatibility:
It *is* possible to make it GPL-compatible, if Stallman releases GPLv4
with such forward-compatibility, like he did with GPLv3-AGPLv3
license bridge. GPLv4 (or v3.1?) can be a small revision against GPLv3
only adding ability to migrate to this new license.
If you can convince Stallman, GPL-compatibility can be done.

About Debian's DFSG:
I'm not sure if such a license will violate DFSG5:
No discrimination against persons or groups., but it might. and DFSG9 also.

BETA-testing of software:
Today, much of cross-platform Open Source Software is tested by
Windows crowd. VirtualBox, LibreOffice, and more are examples of
this...
Linux-only versions (KVM and KOffice) enjoy from less testers.

Speak to Free Software Foundation or to Software Freedom Law Center.
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