Re: CC0 and authors' names in Copyright field

2013-10-02 Thread Gioele Barabucci

Il 02/10/2013 01:40, Charles Plessy ha scritto:

As for CC0, as Ben explained, it is a license, and the simplest is to list the
copyright holders as for other licenses.


Hi,

thanks for the suggestion. (BTW, is the fact that CC0 is a licence 
rather than a dedication an accepted POW? I thought it was still an 
open question.)


Could the copyright-format page [1] be changed to state more explicitly 
that the Copyright field should list the names of the authors even in 
the case of public domain works (or works licensed via CC0)? I would 
like to file a bug report but I do not see which package I should use 
for that.


Regards,

[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/

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Re: CC0 and authors' names in Copyright field

2013-10-02 Thread Gioele Barabucci

Il 02/10/2013 10:01, Ben Finney ha scritto:

Could the copyright-format page [1] be changed to state more
explicitly that the Copyright field should list the names of the
authors even in the case of public domain works (or works licensed via
CC0)?


I don't see that follows from what we've discussed. The document states
explicitly that in the case of a public domain work you *don't* need to
list copyright holders::

 Fields
 […]

 Copyright
 […]

 If a work has no copyright holder (i.e., it is in the public
 domain), that information should be recorded here.

You should specify the license as CC0, you should give the text of the
CC0 grant (the text which says the recipient has the rights described by
CC0) in the License field body.

If you've got documentation that the work has no copyright holder,
that's the documentary information to put in the “Copyright” field.


I'm sorry but I fear that my main message did not came across. I will 
try reformulating my question with a example.


We have the case of software foobar released by John Doe using the 
licence CC0. foobar is not in the public domain (John Doe is well 
alive) but something similar, given the use of CC0.


We want to package foobar. What should we write in debian/copyright?

Solution 1 (no names in the Copyright field:


Files: *
Copyright: Public domain (CC0)
License: CC0

License: CC0
 Creative Commons Legal Code
 [... rest of the CC0 text ...]


Solution 2 (names in the Copyright field):


Files: *
Copyright: Dedicated to the public domain (CC) by John Doe
License: CC0

License: CC0
 Creative Commons Legal Code
 [... rest of the CC0 text ...]


Or is there an even better third solution?

Bye,

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CC0 and authors' names in Copyright field

2013-10-01 Thread Gioele Barabucci

Hello,

in the review [1] of a ruby package licensed with CC0, the following 
question came up:


What should the Copyright field contain for packages dedicated to the 
public domain with CC0?


* Should Copyright contain just Public domain (CC0) to reflect the 
fact that it has been dedicted to the public domain;


* or should Copyright contain also the names of the authors?

As evidenced by Cédric Boutillier, a search in the existing Debian 
packages [2] shows a lot of variability in the format and the content of 
the Copyright field.


The copyright-format document states:

 If a work has no copyright holder (i.e., it is in the public domain),
 that information should be recorded here.

I read that passage as If a work is in PD, use the `Copyright` field to 
state this fact rather than stating the owner of the copyright, but it 
seems that this is not the only possible interpretation.


Are there guidelines for similar situations that can be applied to the 
CC0 case?


Regards,

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-ruby/2013/09/msg00041.html
[2] http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=License%3A+CC0

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