Re: XNAT license terms... any chance for main?

2011-06-03 Thread PJ Weisberg
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote:
 On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

   4. The software has been designed for research purposes only and has not
   been approved for clinical use. It has not been reviewed or approved by
 the
   Food and Drug Administration or by any other agency. You acknowledge and
 agree
   that clinical applications are neither recommended nor advised.

 Since it seems to be just an advisory, I think it should be ok

   5. You are responsible for purchasing any external software that may be
   required for the proper running of this software. You also agree that
 you are
   solely responsible for informing your sublicensees, including without
   limitation your end-users, of their obligations to secure any such
 required
   permissions. You further agree that you are solely responsible for
 determining
   and divulging the viral nature of any code included in the software.

 ok

 It seems like a lot of people disagree with me on this subject, but this
 type of clause looks funny to me.  What if someone doesn't want to
 acknowledge #4 or agree with #5 but still wants to use the software?
  Wouldn't
 that prohibit him from doing so?

 This sounds like it's asking for payment to use the software with the
 payment being you must acknowledge and agree to things that would make it
 harder for you to sue us.  Certainly a direct statement you can use the
 software as long as you never sue us wouldn't fit the DFSG; why would
 an indirect you can only sue us at a disadvantage fit them?

I've seen plenty of software in Debian with a clause similar to #4,
usually phrased something like $foo is distributed in the hope that
it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied
warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  I
don't see how it could make a difference that this license names one
particular purpose that the authors don't guarantee that the software
is fit for.

What does the hypothetical person who doesn't want to agree to #5
want?  He wants to use the software, and he also wants the software's
original author to purchase for him any other software that it
requires, and inform his sub-licensees of the need for such software
(by some other method than letting them read the license)?

I don't know what the software does or anything about the viral
nature that you're supposed to determine and divulge, but the rest of
what you quoted seems like a more verbose version of some pretty
standard disclaimers.

-PJ


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Re: The Evil Cookie Producer case

2011-03-07 Thread PJ Weisberg
On 3/7/11, Andrew Ross ubu...@rossfamily.co.uk wrote:

 The AGPL and the extra term ensure the consumer's RIGHT to know
 that the PDF was produced by iText. Denying this right is IMO
 exactly the abuse of Free Software the AGPL wants to avoid.

Exaggerating a bit with the cookie metaphore, I see.  ;-)  Sure,
maybe the consumer has a RIGHT to know that the PDF was created with
iText, but he almost certainly doesn't care.

In the interest of full disclosure, I think I should mention that the
message you're reading now was sent through Gmail, which I accessed on
a TMobile-locked BlackBerry Bold 9780 (connected over WiFi to a
Linksys router), running v6.0.0.285 of the BlackBerry OS.  Portions of
the browser are copyright 4thpass.

If you want to discuss the opinions I've expressed here, please do so
in a way that respects people's right to know which technologies I
used to express them.

;-)

-PJ


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Re: trademark infringement FreeFOAM

2010-11-23 Thread PJ Weisberg
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gerber van der Graaf 
gerber.vdgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is Pepsi Cola is a trademark infringement of Coca Cola?


Cola is a common word that describes the product, so no.  If the word
FOAM were a word frequently used to describe things of this type with no
connection to OpenCFD then you'd be in the clear.


Re: How to determine all licenses involved?

2010-10-24 Thread PJ Weisberg
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Stefan Baur
newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a system where the output of vrms claims that there are no non-free
 packages installed.
 Does that mean all software on this system falls under one or more of the
 licenses that are stored under /usr/share/common-licenses?
 If not, how can I find out which licenses are involved, other than manually
 checking every text file in every package for a licensing note?

 Kind Regards,
 Stefan


Every package should have a file at
/usr/share/doc/packagename/copyright, which will either contain the
license or a reference to one of those common licenses.

All packages in main should have licenses that conform to the
guidelines at http://debian.org/social_contract#guidelines

-PJ


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