On 10/03/2012 01:23, Ben Finney wrote:
Jérémy Lal kapo...@melix.org writes:
On 09/03/2012 23:14, Ben Finney wrote:
On 06/03/2012 19:20, Isaac Schlueter wrote:
In other words, if the terms of this license keep npm out of
Debian Stable, or any particular distro, then that means it's
working. The fact that npm is not in the distro is worse for the
distro than it is for npm.
That's certainly not going to help in any discussions to work with
Debian. Maybe we would be best respecting the copyright holder's
clearly stated wishes to keep this work out of Debian.
What he implies is that he'd rather keep npm in debian unstable.
Jose Luis Rivas ghost...@debian.org writes:
As far as I'm concerned, and reading the answer from the copyright
holder, he just wishes not to be bug by any change from the
distro-side.
Jérémy and Jose, you are reading Isaac's words in a way I can't
understand.
We are just reading between the lines. I may be wrong, but i think
he's just saying it with bad faith. Here's the kind of guy we're dealing with :
https://github.com/isaacs/npm/issues/533
Isaac is clear about his intent for the effect of the license: “if the
terms of this license keep npm out of Debian Stable, or any particular
distro, then that means it's working.”
That's not “he'd rather keep npm in Debian unstable”, since he also
wants the work to remain out of “any particular distro”. Keeping the
work in Debian unstable does not meet that intent.
That's not “he just wishes not to be bugged” – yes, he wishes not to be
bugged, but he goes further: he states that it is an intent of the
license to keep the package out of “any particular distro”.
It would be nice to believe what you are both saying, but Isaac's words
contradict that belief. He is explicitly stating he does not want the
package in Debian “or any particular distro”. He is explicitly stating
that's an intent of the license terms.
I think we should honour that intent, since the upstream attitude is
surely an indicator that they will resist any requests to make the work
easier to package in Debian.
Should he take more obvious measures, i'd say yes.
My preference goes to sharing the npm packaging work to other debian users,
but i also can do that on a private repository - that's what he wants.
Anyway right now it's only at the discussion level.
His license terms are not against DFSG, are they ?
Jérémy.
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