Re: openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?
Steven Chamberlain writes (openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?): This is an odd statement for GPLv2 code: http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk8/ : International Use Restrictions Due to limited intellectual property protection and enforcement in certain countries, the JDK source code may only be distributed to an authorized list of countries. You will not be able to access the source code if you are downloading from a country that is not on this list. We are continuously reviewing this list for addition of other countries. I think this is a restriction which contradicts the GPL text. Therefore: The JDK8 licence is GPL-incompatible. If there is anyone else's GPL code in JDK8 Oracle are violating the copyright of the other contributors. While the software is free for people in the named list of countries, the licence is not suitable for Debian because we distribute software worldwide and want our users and downstreams to be able to do so. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21511.5602.856188.211...@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Re: openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?
On 03/09/14 14:21, Ian Jackson wrote: The JDK8 licence is GPL-incompatible. The same statement doesn't seem to be present in the LICENSE file inside the tarball. So, someone who already has a JDK8 source tarball should be licensed to redistribute it freely, but that statement on their website, the JDK source code may only be distributed to an authorized list of countries, is very confusing. If there is anyone else's GPL code in JDK8 Oracle are violating the copyright of the other contributors. That seems true either way. They can't ignore their GPL obligations due to limited intellectual property protection and enforcement in certain countries. Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540718e9.70...@pyro.eu.org
Re: openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?
On 2014-09-03, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: I think this is a restriction which contradicts the GPL text. Therefore: The JDK8 licence is GPL-incompatible. If there is anyone else's GPL code in JDK8 Oracle are violating the copyright of the other contributors. While the software is free for people in the named list of countries, the licence is not suitable for Debian because we distribute software worldwide and want our users and downstreams to be able to do so. My non-english, non-laywer reading of it is that you are not allowed to get the sources from *oracle* if you are in the wrong countries. but if you can get it from any other person, it is fine. Isn't it mostly US-corporate-cover-my-behind speak? /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lu78go$b6k$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?
Steven Chamberlain writes (Re: openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?): On 03/09/14 14:21, Ian Jackson wrote: The JDK8 licence is GPL-incompatible. The same statement doesn't seem to be present in the LICENSE file inside the tarball. So, someone who already has a JDK8 source tarball should be licensed to redistribute it freely, but that statement on their website, the JDK source code may only be distributed to an authorized list of countries, is very confusing. Oh, that's fine then. It's not a licence restriction - it's simply a restriction on permission to use Oracle's servers to obtain the code. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21511.12504.824202.890...@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Re: openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?
On Mon, 1 Sep 2014, Walter Landry wrote: Due to limited intellectual property protection and enforcement in certain countries, the JDK source code may only be distributed to an authorized list of countries. You will not be able to access the source code if you are downloading from a country that is not on this list. We are continuously reviewing this list for addition of other countries. This is just Oracle saying that they will not offer downloads to people in embargoed countries (e.g. Cuba). Debian does a similar thing. This does not prevent anyone from taking that download and giving it to a Cuban. Oracle saying that they won't offer downloads to people in embargoed nations would be we will only distribute the source code to..., not the source code may only be distributed to... The way it's actually worded, that limit applies to everyone, not just Oracle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.lrh.2.00.1409020935100.5...@oxygen.rahul.net
openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?
Hi, This is an odd statement for GPLv2 code: http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk8/ : International Use Restrictions Due to limited intellectual property protection and enforcement in certain countries, the JDK source code may only be distributed to an authorized list of countries. You will not be able to access the source code if you are downloading from a country that is not on this list. We are continuously reviewing this list for addition of other countries. Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540469a0.9010...@pyro.eu.org
Re: openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?
This is an odd statement for GPLv2 code: http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk8/ : International Use Restrictions Due to limited intellectual property protection and enforcement in certain countries, the JDK source code may only be distributed to an authorized list of countries. You will not be able to access the source code if you are downloading from a country that is not on this list. We are continuously reviewing this list for addition of other countries. Hmm... this seems like it would contradict the GPL. Fedora recently discussed a similar issue, if you're interested. https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/157 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5404e408.6050...@bitmessage.ch
Re: openjdk-8 upstream limits source distribution?
Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org wrote: Hi, This is an odd statement for GPLv2 code: http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk8/ : International Use Restrictions Due to limited intellectual property protection and enforcement in certain countries, the JDK source code may only be distributed to an authorized list of countries. You will not be able to access the source code if you are downloading from a country that is not on this list. We are continuously reviewing this list for addition of other countries. This is just Oracle saying that they will not offer downloads to people in embargoed countries (e.g. Cuba). Debian does a similar thing. This does not prevent anyone from taking that download and giving it to a Cuban. Cheers, Walter Landry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140901.164029.770625889527809981.wlan...@caltech.edu
