Re: Nanoplot - ORCA -> kaleido

2021-05-24 Thread Steffen Möller
Hi Étienne,

Am 24.05.21 um 19:39 schrieb Étienne Mollier:
> Steffen Möller, on 2021-05-24:
>> Nanoplot was blocked by the tricky-to-package orca extension of plotly.
>> Orca seems to be substituted by kaleido, which is also tricky to package.
>>
>> The idea is to use some magic of chromium that is made available via
>> docker to craft an executable that can transform SVGs in web outputs.  I
>> am tempted to think that this of general interest. They say that pypi
>> and conda can just install this as a one-liner, well, so can Debian once
>> it is packaged, but I have no clue how to get there.
> Having filed the RFP for plotly-orca, I consider your finding
> interesting.  Is that the kaleido hosted on the following
> location?
>
>   https://github.com/plotly/Kaleido
>
> (I would guess so, just confirming.)

That is what I thought - the error message was just that there is a
"kaleido" module missing and pypi points the URL you found on
https://pypi.org/project/kaleido/.

Many thanks for having a look at this.

Best,
Steffen



Nanoplot - ORCA -> kaleido

2021-05-23 Thread Steffen Möller
Nanoplot was blocked by the tricky-to-package orca extension of plotly.
Orca seems to be substitute by kaleido, which is also tricky to package.

The idea is to use some magic of chromium that is made available via
docker to craft an executable that can transform SVGs in web outputs.  I
am tempted to think that this of general interest. They say that pypi
and conda can just install this a a one-liner, well, so can Debian once
it is packaged, but I have no clue how to get there.

Steffen




Re: ORCA

2020-11-04 Thread Steffen Möller


On 03.11.20 08:06, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi Steffen,
>
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 01:36:00AM +0100, Steffen Möller wrote:
>> I had a second look. Impressive. Seems like linuxbrew has evolved
>> enormously.
> If you had a look could you please give a short summary?  For me it
> sounds like another packaging system (like Conda).

Yes. homebrew (https://brew.sh/) is some bread and butter for all MacOS
users (like me). Linuxbrew uses the same technology to spread across Linux.

> Would you mind doing
> some comparison?

Hm. We kind of did:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41019-017-0050-4

The list of packages they provide for Bioinformatics has much improved
since I last looked at it. I added the brew packages referenced by the
ORCA dockerfiles in the "Others" tab. But that seems wrong. Instead
these should become a column "brew" next to Conda. The other column we
are missing is for Guix ... but with limited hours per day, we can
either add references or package something. Missing anyway.

> Would anybody consider contacting ORCA developers and
> invite them to join our list?  I'm wondering whether a docker container
> featuring Debian Med packages might have advantages or disadvantages and
> I'm keen on learning what those disadvantages might be.

You can install the latest that brew/conda/guix is offering on Debian
stable and Debian unstable alike. And have different versions of the
same tool. And changes are as quick as a pull request.

Best,

Steffen

>
>> On 02.11.20 17:07, Steffen Möller wrote:
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> On 01.11.20 22:25, Tony Travis wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone looked at ORCA?
>>>>
>>>>> https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/35/21/4448/5475597
>>>> It has recently been promoted on Cyverse-UK:
>>>>
>>>>> https://cyverseuk.org/
>>>> Came to my attention because of the reference to Bio-Linux, which I've
>>>> used a lot on the University of Arizona iPlant/Cyverse training cluster.
>>> I added a column for ORCA on
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tApLhVqxRZ2VOuMH_aPUgFENQJfbLlB_PFH_Ah_q7hM/edit#gid=853602383
>>>
>>> with the packages it installs via brew in their dockerfile.
>>>
>>> Hail to all the whale-lovers out there
>>>
>>> Steffen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>



Re: ORCA

2020-11-03 Thread Tony Travis

On 03/11/2020 07:06, Andreas Tille wrote:

Hi Steffen,

On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 01:36:00AM +0100, Steffen Möller wrote:

I had a second look. Impressive. Seems like linuxbrew has evolved
enormously.


If you had a look could you please give a short summary?  For me it
sounds like another packaging system (like Conda).  Would you mind doing
some comparison?  Would anybody consider contacting ORCA developers and
invite them to join our list?  I'm wondering whether a docker container
featuring Debian Med packages might have advantages or disadvantages and
I'm keen on learning what those disadvantages might be.


Hi, Andreas.

OK, I'm willing to volunteer to contact them!

I've been using Docker a lot recently to run virus scanning pipelines 
and I have very mixed feelings about it. It's good if you understand how 
to use it, but presents huge opportunities to get it wrong and can be 
quite impenetrable if you don't know or have to motivation to use it 
properly. On balance, I think it is better to use Bioconda instead.


Bye,

  Tony.

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Re: ORCA

2020-11-02 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steffen,

On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 01:36:00AM +0100, Steffen Möller wrote:
> I had a second look. Impressive. Seems like linuxbrew has evolved
> enormously.

If you had a look could you please give a short summary?  For me it
sounds like another packaging system (like Conda).  Would you mind doing
some comparison?  Would anybody consider contacting ORCA developers and
invite them to join our list?  I'm wondering whether a docker container
featuring Debian Med packages might have advantages or disadvantages and
I'm keen on learning what those disadvantages might be.

Kind regards

   Andreas.

> On 02.11.20 17:07, Steffen Möller wrote:
> > Hi Tony,
> >
> > On 01.11.20 22:25, Tony Travis wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Has anyone looked at ORCA?
> >>
> >>> https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/35/21/4448/5475597
> >> It has recently been promoted on Cyverse-UK:
> >>
> >>> https://cyverseuk.org/
> >> Came to my attention because of the reference to Bio-Linux, which I've
> >> used a lot on the University of Arizona iPlant/Cyverse training cluster.
> > I added a column for ORCA on
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tApLhVqxRZ2VOuMH_aPUgFENQJfbLlB_PFH_Ah_q7hM/edit#gid=853602383
> >
> > with the packages it installs via brew in their dockerfile.
> >
> > Hail to all the whale-lovers out there
> >
> > Steffen
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: ORCA

2020-11-02 Thread Steffen Möller
I had a second look. Impressive. Seems like linuxbrew has evolved
enormously.

On 02.11.20 17:07, Steffen Möller wrote:
> Hi Tony,
>
> On 01.11.20 22:25, Tony Travis wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone looked at ORCA?
>>
>>> https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/35/21/4448/5475597
>> It has recently been promoted on Cyverse-UK:
>>
>>> https://cyverseuk.org/
>> Came to my attention because of the reference to Bio-Linux, which I've
>> used a lot on the University of Arizona iPlant/Cyverse training cluster.
> I added a column for ORCA on
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tApLhVqxRZ2VOuMH_aPUgFENQJfbLlB_PFH_Ah_q7hM/edit#gid=853602383
>
> with the packages it installs via brew in their dockerfile.
>
> Hail to all the whale-lovers out there
>
> Steffen
>
>
>



Re: ORCA

2020-11-02 Thread Steffen Möller
Hi Tony,

On 01.11.20 22:25, Tony Travis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone looked at ORCA?
>
>> https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/35/21/4448/5475597
>
> It has recently been promoted on Cyverse-UK:
>
>> https://cyverseuk.org/
>
> Came to my attention because of the reference to Bio-Linux, which I've
> used a lot on the University of Arizona iPlant/Cyverse training cluster.
I added a column for ORCA on

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tApLhVqxRZ2VOuMH_aPUgFENQJfbLlB_PFH_Ah_q7hM/edit#gid=853602383

with the packages it installs via brew in their dockerfile.

Hail to all the whale-lovers out there

Steffen





ORCA

2020-11-01 Thread Tony Travis

Hi,

Has anyone looked at ORCA?


https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/35/21/4448/5475597


It has recently been promoted on Cyverse-UK:


https://cyverseuk.org/


Came to my attention because of the reference to Bio-Linux, which I've 
used a lot on the University of Arizona iPlant/Cyverse training cluster.


Bye,

  Tony.

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