Looking for Advocate/Sponsor

2002-01-09 Thread Pete Ryland

Hello all,

I am looking for an Advocate/Sponsor.  I have been developing free software
for some time and wish to increase my user base (and developer base too!) by
releasing debian packages for my work (it would also give me a warm and
furry feeling to be assisting with Debian).  I have been able to create
lint-free debian binary packages for my xmldb library (xmldb.sf.net) and
will shortly get around to working out making a source package as well.  My
other major projects include a Java Decompiler (written in C) and a mod
music tracker called KegTracker, both of which I rarely work on these days,
but it would be a pity if they were not made more available.

I've recently moved to London and if I can get someone here to sign my key,
it's possible that I can get one of the debian developers I know back in
Sydney to sponsor my package.  But it would probably be easier to get
someone here to do that too.

Any takers?

Best regards,
Pete Ryland



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Looking for Advocate/Sponsor

2002-01-09 Thread Pete Ryland
Hello all,

I am looking for an Advocate/Sponsor.  I have been developing free software
for some time and wish to increase my user base (and developer base too!) by
releasing debian packages for my work (it would also give me a warm and
furry feeling to be assisting with Debian).  I have been able to create
lint-free debian binary packages for my xmldb library (xmldb.sf.net) and
will shortly get around to working out making a source package as well.  My
other major projects include a Java Decompiler (written in C) and a mod
music tracker called KegTracker, both of which I rarely work on these days,
but it would be a pity if they were not made more available.

I've recently moved to London and if I can get someone here to sign my key,
it's possible that I can get one of the debian developers I know back in
Sydney to sponsor my package.  But it would probably be easier to get
someone here to do that too.

Any takers?

Best regards,
Pete Ryland


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Need an advocate/sponsor

2001-07-30 Thread OHASHI Akira

Hi,

I'm looking for an Advocate and a Sponsor for my Debian
NM application. I debianized Elserv. Elserv is an HTTP
server which runs on Emacs. This is distributed under
the GPL. Official web site is follows:

http://www.gohome.org/elserv/

My debian pacakges is follow:

http://www.koka-in.org/~bg66/debian/

I want someone to inspect my package and please become
my advocate and sponsor.

My status page for applicant is follow:

http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=bg66%40koka-in.org

Regards,

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Need an advocate/sponsor

2001-07-30 Thread OHASHI Akira
Hi,

I'm looking for an Advocate and a Sponsor for my Debian
NM application. I debianized Elserv. Elserv is an HTTP
server which runs on Emacs. This is distributed under
the GPL. Official web site is follows:

http://www.gohome.org/elserv/

My debian pacakges is follow:

http://www.koka-in.org/~bg66/debian/

I want someone to inspect my package and please become
my advocate and sponsor.

My status page for applicant is follow:

http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=bg66%40koka-in.org

Regards,

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Need an Advocate/Sponsor

2001-07-24 Thread Baruch Even

Hello,

I'm looking for an Advocate and a Sponsor for my Debian NM application.

My qualifications include being a programmer with hands in the LyX
project (http://www.lyx.org/), being the developer of xmms-volnorm
(http://volnorm.sourceforge.net/) this is packaged by Adrian Bunk.

I've recently did the final stage of switching completely to Debian (it
was installed alongside RedHat for 6 months now), and started to package
programs that I needed in my transition.

I already have a finished package of xmmsctrl (admittedly a trivial
package), and in the works of packaging new.

xmmsctrl is a command line tool to control XMMS, usefull to bind keys of
multimedia keyboards to control XMMS (I use it with sawfish).

new is a templating system, basically you hold a bunch of templates for
various files and just 'new filename' to get the new file from a
template, very convenient to include the GPL at the top and various
other trivia like name and date.

Thanks for you time,
 Baruch

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Re: GPG Key Signing (Was: Advocate/Sponsor)

2001-07-01 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 10:27:54AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
  
  we should also require them to demonstrate a clear understanding of
  PKI as part of the NM process.
 
 manoj came up with a pretty good protocol to sign a key. i have it
 available in HTML at
 
 http://people.debian.org/~jaqque/keysign.html
 
 it does have some weaknesses, but it is a lot stronger than the ``oh,
 i've met you, i have checked your ID, and off we go''
 
 comments welcome.


Nice to see you called it 'Manoj's Singing-Protocol' ;)

 
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Need an advocate/sponsor

2001-07-01 Thread Mikael Andersson
Hi!

I'm searching for a Sponsor/Advocate 

I have packaged: 
The Flink mailchecker is a small panelapplet for 
the GNOME panel. 
It features support for multiple accounts, so that you will not 
need to have several applets for checking different accounts, 
Flink is capable to have (almost) an infinite amount of 
accounts configured. 
Flink supports POP3, IMAPv4 and mbox right now. 
Flink homepage: http://flink.leyman.nu/ 

My debian packages: 
deb http://www.mikan.net/~mikan/debian/ ./ 
deb-src http://www.mikan.net/~mikan/debian/ ./ 

Flink was mostly a learning project, how to create a package etc. But I
will continue to support it and help the upstream to include sasl
support in it's IMAP mode. 

I have begun work on a new version of arla (orphaned by [EMAIL PROTECTED])
but I'm not done yet. I have gotten it to build, but I need to figure out
how it should create an source package for building kernel modules. 

I haven't filled an ITP yet, because I want to get an advocate/sponsor
first, so I feel that I'm on the right track.

CU
Mikael Andersson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS Sorry for my bad(?) english, it's not my primary language, and it's late in
sweden :-)
DS



Re: GPG Key Signing (Was: Advocate/Sponsor)

2001-06-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Samuel == Samuel Tardieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Samuel Well, then why not talk about id signing instead of key
 Samuel signing which exists but designates a completely different
 Samuel thing that also exists in GPG? 

Because these procedures have been known as key signings since
 the beginning of time?  That anyone who works with PGP/GPG already
 knows what it means? Because most people use language to sommunicate,
 and communication implies a basis set of accepted semantics and
 language, and the accepted nomenclature is key signing?  Because I am
 more interested in conveying my ideas than nit picking irrelevant
 details? 

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Re: GPG Key Signing (Was: Advocate/Sponsor)

2001-06-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava

Samuel == Samuel Tardieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Samuel It has an enormous flaw: you do not sign a key, you sign an
 Samuel id. That means that checking for one e-mail address for being
 Samuel valid and signing all the ids is just bogus. You may use this
 Samuel protocol, but you have to repeat each for  every email
 Samuel address you are going to sign. 

Actually, the real flaw seems to be that my email assumed that
 the protocol was going to be used by people who had a modicum of
 inductive reasoning.  The outline mentions just one ID in the key
 being verified and signed, and I assumed that anyone this concerned
 about security would realize that the same needed to be done for evey
 ID one needed to verify.  Quite obviously I was mistaken in my
 assumption.

John, could you please add the iteration over email ID's to
 the protocol? 
==
To Have Your Key Signed
 
4 ...

 You may receive separate emails for each email ID in your key

To Sign Another Key

put 6, 7, and 8 in a loop:
For each address on the key; do:
  6 ...
  7 ...
  8 ...
done

Double Key-Signing
 Same as above, except 6,7,8, and 9 should be in the loop. 

10. You may wish to independenty send email to each email ID on the
other persons key before signing that identity.
==

manoj
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Re: GPG Key Signing (Was: Advocate/Sponsor)

2001-06-29 Thread Samuel Tardieu

On 29/06, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

|   Actually, the real flaw seems to be that my email assumed that
|  the protocol was going to be used by people who had a modicum of
|  inductive reasoning.  The outline mentions just one ID in the key
|  being verified and signed, and I assumed that anyone this concerned
|  about security would realize that the same needed to be done for evey
|  ID one needed to verify.  Quite obviously I was mistaken in my
|  assumption.

Well, then why not talk about id signing instead of key signing which
exists but designates a completely different thing that also exists in GPG?


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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-29 Thread Danie Roux
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 10:48:53AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
 Danie,
 
 On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Danie Roux wrote:
 
  I would love to have an advocate. Being in Pretoria, South Africa that's not
  going to be easy though.
 
 A developer does not have to be physically proximate to you to be your
 advocate; in fact, it doesn't have to be your advocate who signs your key,
 either.  The advocate merely ... advocates for you to the NM committee, he is
 someone who will speak on your behalf in recommending you for maintainership.
 So in many cases, it may be better to seek a debian developer who knows your
 work and can evaluate your packages -- often your sponsor is best suited to
 be your advocate.

After I have a sponsor, and I've shown that I can be a developer/maintainer,
I'll apply. 'Till then I need to get my package into Debian :-)

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Re: GPG Key Signing (Was: Advocate/Sponsor)

2001-06-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Samuel == Samuel Tardieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Samuel It has an enormous flaw: you do not sign a key, you sign an
 Samuel id. That means that checking for one e-mail address for being
 Samuel valid and signing all the ids is just bogus. You may use this
 Samuel protocol, but you have to repeat each for  every email
 Samuel address you are going to sign. 

Actually, the real flaw seems to be that my email assumed that
 the protocol was going to be used by people who had a modicum of
 inductive reasoning.  The outline mentions just one ID in the key
 being verified and signed, and I assumed that anyone this concerned
 about security would realize that the same needed to be done for evey
 ID one needed to verify.  Quite obviously I was mistaken in my
 assumption.

John, could you please add the iteration over email ID's to
 the protocol? 
==
To Have Your Key Signed
 
4 ...

 You may receive separate emails for each email ID in your key

To Sign Another Key

put 6, 7, and 8 in a loop:
For each address on the key; do:
  6 ...
  7 ...
  8 ...
done

Double Key-Signing
 Same as above, except 6,7,8, and 9 should be in the loop. 

10. You may wish to independenty send email to each email ID on the
other persons key before signing that identity.
==

manoj
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Re: GPG Key Signing (Was: Advocate/Sponsor)

2001-06-29 Thread Samuel Tardieu
On 29/06, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

|   Actually, the real flaw seems to be that my email assumed that
|  the protocol was going to be used by people who had a modicum of
|  inductive reasoning.  The outline mentions just one ID in the key
|  being verified and signed, and I assumed that anyone this concerned
|  about security would realize that the same needed to be done for evey
|  ID one needed to verify.  Quite obviously I was mistaken in my
|  assumption.

Well, then why not talk about id signing instead of key signing which
exists but designates a completely different thing that also exists in GPG?



Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Danie Roux

I would love to have an advocate. Being in Pretoria, South Africa that's not
going to be easy though.

For now I want a sponsor to get garchiver in to Debian.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:38:36PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
 
 Do you mean an advocate? When you submit your appliance to join debian, an advocate 
geographically near will contact you for meeting. You need to meet him/her to prove 
your identity so debian allows you to join the community. see http://nm.debian.org/ 
for more info.
 
 
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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Mikael Andersson

Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Do you mean an advocate? When you submit your appliance to join debian,
 an advocate geographically near will contact you for meeting. You need to
 meet him/her to prove your identity so debian allows you to join the
 community. see http://nm.debian.org/ for more info.

I have a question about that. I filled in the webform on
http://nm.debian.org/newnm.php last week, checked every botton except the gpg key and 
if I have an advocate. 

The webform warned about that I haven't got my key signed etc. 

Shouldn't I see my name on http://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php under No
Advocate? 

I have sent mail to two dd in sweden, and trying to get my key signed. 

Is it required to have an advocate and signed gpg key before you fill in
the webform or not? 

Cheers
Mikael 
PS
Sorry for my English, it's not my Native language 
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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Martin Michlmayr

* Mikael Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010628 14:29]:
 I have a question about that. I filled in the webform on
 http://nm.debian.org/newnm.php last week, checked every botton except
 the gpg key and if I have an advocate.
 The webform warned about that I haven't got my key signed etc.

 Shouldn't I see my name on http://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php under No
 Advocate?

No.

 Is it required to have an advocate and signed gpg key before you fill in
 the webform or not?

You need a signed gpg key, but not an advocate when you apply -- the
message currently printed is not clear, though.  I have fixed that
now.  (It should have said that you needed a GPG signd key.)

 I have sent mail to two dd in sweden, and trying to get my key signed.

If they don't respond, contact me in private mail and I will try
to help you.


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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Steve Langasek

Danie,

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Danie Roux wrote:

 I would love to have an advocate. Being in Pretoria, South Africa that's not
 going to be easy though.

A developer does not have to be physically proximate to you to be your
advocate; in fact, it doesn't have to be your advocate who signs your key,
either.  The advocate merely ... advocates for you to the NM committee, he is
someone who will speak on your behalf in recommending you for maintainership.
So in many cases, it may be better to seek a debian developer who knows your
work and can evaluate your packages -- often your sponsor is best suited to
be your advocate.

You still need to have your key signed before you can become a d-d, and this
usually requires a physical meeting.  IIRC, there are some d-d's living in
South Africa, though I don't remember what city; and if a physical meeting
doesn't seem possible, there are other ways that have been used in the past to
handle the identification requirement.  In the meantime, sponsored uploads are
a great way to get started with Debian.

Regards,
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

 For now I want a sponsor to get garchiver in to Debian.

 On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:38:36PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:

 Do you mean an advocate? When you submit your appliance to join debian, an
 advocate geographically near will contact you for meeting. You need to meet
 him/her to prove your identity so debian allows you to join the community.
 see http://nm.debian.org/ for more info.

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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Mark Brown

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:31:54AM -0500, Martin Michlmayr wrote:

 You need a signed gpg key, but not an advocate when you apply -- the
 message currently printed is not clear, though.  I have fixed that
 now.  (It should have said that you needed a GPG signd key.)

Does the GPG key need to be signed or does it just need to exist?  I had
been under the impression that other forms of identification were still
possible, though severely discouraged.


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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Steve Langasek

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Duncan Findlay wrote:

 I think that now an advocate is needed to simply say that they agree with
 your application, and be a mentor of sorts.

 After an advocate is found, an application manager is assigned.

 I don't think that there is any requirement for an actual physical meeting.
 Photo ID appears to be acceptible.

Certainly not.  Photo IDs can not only be faked, they can also be stolen.
Without physically meeting you and seeing you, how do we know that you're
really the person in the picture?

There are other methods of ascertaining identity without the benefit of a
physical meeting, but they usually don't involve photo IDs -- and even if
they're used for satisfying the identification requirement of the NM process,
they probably shouldn't be used as justification for signing a GPG key.

It's my personal opinion that, if we are going to empower all Debian
developers to sign other people into the Debian keyring (and consequently into
the global Web of Trust), we should also require them to demonstrate a clear
understanding of PKI as part of the NM process.  I think there are a lot of
NMs who, if they don't already know a lot about PKI before they become DD's,
never learn more than the mechanics of signing a key -- and that's ok, until
we start encouraging them to go out and sign other people's keys. :)

Steve Langasek
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Re: GPG Key Signing (Was: Advocate/Sponsor)

2001-06-28 Thread Samuel Tardieu

On 28/06, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:

| http://people.debian.org/~jaqque/keysign.html
| 
| it does have some weaknesses, but it is a lot stronger than the ``oh,
| i've met you, i have checked your ID, and off we go''
| 
| comments welcome.

It has an enormous flaw: you do not sign a key, you sign an id. That means
that checking for one e-mail address for being valid and signing all the ids
is just bogus. You may use this protocol, but you have to repeat each for
every email address you are going to sign.


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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Samuel Tardieu

On 28/06, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
| * Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010628 16:53]:
|  Does the GPG key need to be signed or does it just need to exist?  I
|  had been under the impression that other forms of identification
|  were still possible, though severely discouraged.
| 
| Yeah, those forms still exist.  The web site even says
| 
| Do you yet have a GPG key signed by a current developer or some
| other photo ID scanned in and signed with your GPG key?
| 
| But I usually talk of 'signed keys' because that's the preferred
| method and because it is usually possible to get a signature these
| days.

I also think that Debian should accept scanned IDs signed with a trusted
X509 key (as the one issued for free by Thawte (http://www.thawte.com/)). This
would allow people who went through the heavy Thawte id checking to have
their identity trusted by the Debian project.


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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Steve Langasek

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Samuel Tardieu wrote:

 On 28/06, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 | * Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010628 16:53]:
 |  Does the GPG key need to be signed or does it just need to exist?  I
 |  had been under the impression that other forms of identification
 |  were still possible, though severely discouraged.

 | Yeah, those forms still exist.  The web site even says

 | Do you yet have a GPG key signed by a current developer or some
 | other photo ID scanned in and signed with your GPG key?

 | But I usually talk of 'signed keys' because that's the preferred
 | method and because it is usually possible to get a signature these
 | days.

 I also think that Debian should accept scanned IDs signed with a trusted
 X509 key (as the one issued for free by Thawte (http://www.thawte.com/)). This
 would allow people who went through the heavy Thawte id checking to have
 their identity trusted by the Debian project.

No.  Signing the scanned ID adds *nothing* over accepting the x509 key by
itself.  If faking a physical photo ID is easy, faking a scanned photo ID is
ridiculously simple.

If we want to accept Thawte's id checking as sufficiently rigorous for our
purposes, if we want to trust Thawte[1], then there's no point in asking for
a scan signed with the ID.  But I don't think we should accept Thawte IDs as
sufficient; the needs and goals of a PKI that uses CAs (such as Thawte) are
not entirely compatible with those of a peer-to-peer system (such as PGP).

Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

[1] And is Thawte really so impervious to corruption that there's not even a
*remote* possibility of falsification?  Remember that they're now owned by
Network Solutions.  Anything is possible...


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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Robert Millan

Do you mean an advocate? When you submit your appliance to join debian, an 
advocate geographically near will contact you for meeting. You need to meet 
him/her to prove your identity so debian allows you to join the community. see 
http://nm.debian.org/ for more info.


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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Danie Roux
I would love to have an advocate. Being in Pretoria, South Africa that's not
going to be easy though.

For now I want a sponsor to get garchiver in to Debian.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:38:36PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
 
 Do you mean an advocate? When you submit your appliance to join debian, an 
 advocate geographically near will contact you for meeting. You need to meet 
 him/her to prove your identity so debian allows you to join the community. 
 see http://nm.debian.org/ for more info.
 
 
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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:31:54AM -0500, Martin Michlmayr wrote:

 You need a signed gpg key, but not an advocate when you apply -- the
 message currently printed is not clear, though.  I have fixed that
 now.  (It should have said that you needed a GPG signd key.)

Does the GPG key need to be signed or does it just need to exist?  I had
been under the impression that other forms of identification were still
possible, though severely discouraged.



Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Duncan Findlay
I think that now an advocate is needed to simply say that they agree with
your application, and be a mentor of sorts.

After an advocate is found, an application manager is assigned.

I don't think that there is any requirement for an actual physical meeting.
Photo ID appears to be acceptible.


 Do you mean an advocate? When you submit your appliance to join debian, an
advocate geographically near will contact you for meeting. You need to meet
him/her to prove your identity so debian allows you to join the community.
see http://nm.debian.org/ for more info.


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Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Duncan Findlay wrote:

 I think that now an advocate is needed to simply say that they agree with
 your application, and be a mentor of sorts.

 After an advocate is found, an application manager is assigned.

 I don't think that there is any requirement for an actual physical meeting.
 Photo ID appears to be acceptible.

Certainly not.  Photo IDs can not only be faked, they can also be stolen.
Without physically meeting you and seeing you, how do we know that you're
really the person in the picture?

There are other methods of ascertaining identity without the benefit of a
physical meeting, but they usually don't involve photo IDs -- and even if
they're used for satisfying the identification requirement of the NM process,
they probably shouldn't be used as justification for signing a GPG key.

It's my personal opinion that, if we are going to empower all Debian
developers to sign other people into the Debian keyring (and consequently into
the global Web of Trust), we should also require them to demonstrate a clear
understanding of PKI as part of the NM process.  I think there are a lot of
NMs who, if they don't already know a lot about PKI before they become DD's,
never learn more than the mechanics of signing a key -- and that's ok, until
we start encouraging them to go out and sign other people's keys. :)

Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer



Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010628 16:53]:
 Does the GPG key need to be signed or does it just need to exist?  I
 had been under the impression that other forms of identification
 were still possible, though severely discouraged.

Yeah, those forms still exist.  The web site even says

Do you yet have a GPG key signed by a current developer or some
other photo ID scanned in and signed with your GPG key?

But I usually talk of 'signed keys' because that's the preferred
method and because it is usually possible to get a signature these
days.



GPG Key Signing (Was: Advocate/Sponsor)

2001-06-28 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
 
 we should also require them to demonstrate a clear understanding of
 PKI as part of the NM process.

manoj came up with a pretty good protocol to sign a key. i have it
available in HTML at

http://people.debian.org/~jaqque/keysign.html

it does have some weaknesses, but it is a lot stronger than the ``oh,
i've met you, i have checked your ID, and off we go''

comments welcome.

-john



Re: GPG Key Signing (Was: Advocate/Sponsor)

2001-06-28 Thread Samuel Tardieu
On 28/06, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:

| http://people.debian.org/~jaqque/keysign.html
| 
| it does have some weaknesses, but it is a lot stronger than the ``oh,
| i've met you, i have checked your ID, and off we go''
| 
| comments welcome.

It has an enormous flaw: you do not sign a key, you sign an id. That means
that checking for one e-mail address for being valid and signing all the ids
is just bogus. You may use this protocol, but you have to repeat each for
every email address you are going to sign.



Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Samuel Tardieu
On 28/06, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
| * Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010628 16:53]:
|  Does the GPG key need to be signed or does it just need to exist?  I
|  had been under the impression that other forms of identification
|  were still possible, though severely discouraged.
| 
| Yeah, those forms still exist.  The web site even says
| 
| Do you yet have a GPG key signed by a current developer or some
| other photo ID scanned in and signed with your GPG key?
| 
| But I usually talk of 'signed keys' because that's the preferred
| method and because it is usually possible to get a signature these
| days.

I also think that Debian should accept scanned IDs signed with a trusted
X509 key (as the one issued for free by Thawte (http://www.thawte.com/)). This
would allow people who went through the heavy Thawte id checking to have
their identity trusted by the Debian project.



Re: Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Samuel Tardieu wrote:

 On 28/06, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 | * Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010628 16:53]:
 |  Does the GPG key need to be signed or does it just need to exist?  I
 |  had been under the impression that other forms of identification
 |  were still possible, though severely discouraged.

 | Yeah, those forms still exist.  The web site even says

 | Do you yet have a GPG key signed by a current developer or some
 | other photo ID scanned in and signed with your GPG key?

 | But I usually talk of 'signed keys' because that's the preferred
 | method and because it is usually possible to get a signature these
 | days.

 I also think that Debian should accept scanned IDs signed with a trusted
 X509 key (as the one issued for free by Thawte (http://www.thawte.com/)). This
 would allow people who went through the heavy Thawte id checking to have
 their identity trusted by the Debian project.

No.  Signing the scanned ID adds *nothing* over accepting the x509 key by
itself.  If faking a physical photo ID is easy, faking a scanned photo ID is
ridiculously simple.

If we want to accept Thawte's id checking as sufficiently rigorous for our
purposes, if we want to trust Thawte[1], then there's no point in asking for
a scan signed with the ID.  But I don't think we should accept Thawte IDs as
sufficient; the needs and goals of a PKI that uses CAs (such as Thawte) are
not entirely compatible with those of a peer-to-peer system (such as PGP).

Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

[1] And is Thawte really so impervious to corruption that there's not even a
*remote* possibility of falsification?  Remember that they're now owned by
Network Solutions.  Anything is possible...



Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-27 Thread Duncan Findlay

I was wondering if anyone would be willing to sponsor my application to be a
new maintainer.  Currently, I've packaged alienwave, a simple curses-based
console game of the space invaders genre.  I've also packaged the latest
version of faqomatic, which was orphaned by Scott K. Ellis.

Both alienwave and faqomatic are available at
http://freecashonthewebnow.virtualave.net/debian  (un: debian, pw: debian)

Thanks.

Duncan Findlay
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Advocate/Sponsor

2001-06-27 Thread Duncan Findlay
I was wondering if anyone would be willing to sponsor my application to be a
new maintainer.  Currently, I've packaged alienwave, a simple curses-based
console game of the space invaders genre.  I've also packaged the latest
version of faqomatic, which was orphaned by Scott K. Ellis.

Both alienwave and faqomatic are available at
http://freecashonthewebnow.virtualave.net/debian  (un: debian, pw: debian)

Thanks.

Duncan Findlay
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Looking for Advocate, Sponsor

2001-06-07 Thread Mabe, David, M \(Dave\)
Debian Mentors:

I am looking for a sponsor/advocate for becoming a debian developer.  I am
packaging misterhouse, a home automation package written in perl.  I have
signed up at http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/.  The
misterhouse debian package can be found at
http://www.runningland.com/debian/.  Lintian gives some perl warnings that I
believe can be safely ignored after reading the Debian Perl Policy.

Any help or feedback would be appreciated.  Thanks!

Dave Mabe



Looking for Advocate, Sponsor

2001-06-05 Thread Mabe, David, M (Dave)

Debian Mentors:

I am looking for a sponsor/advocate for becoming a debian developer.  I am
packaging misterhouse, a home automation package written in perl.  I have
signed up at http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/.  The
misterhouse debian package can be found at
http://www.runningland.com/debian/.  Lintian gives some perl warnings that I
believe can be safely ignored after reading the Debian Perl Policy.

Any help or feedback would be appreciated.  Thanks!

Dave Mabe


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