Re: Applicant w/ package
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 11:04:19PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 16:26:20 Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20011104 16:08]: Maybe it would be worth listing it on the can't be packaged page at URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package? you must be confused. the patent problems are only affecting the opendivx codec. I spoke with the maintainer about this problem, the opendivx codec is just not going into the mplayer package. the program itself is GPL regarding the technical issues, the main problem was that mplayer uses higher CPU optimizations on compilation. This can be solved by including a part of the sources in the binary package and building them in postinst or even by building many mplayer-* packages. Building in postinst is horrible. You would have to Pre-Depend on gcc and whatnot. Also you have a silently CPU-specific installation. IMHO it is *very* bad when software stops working just because you boot your installation on a different machine, without the user being at fault. If the user compiled a kernel for a P4 or installed e.g. mplayer-p4 and it doesn't work on Athlon, then it's the user to blame (for compiling for a specific type and for choosing a specific package that is _obviously_ CPU-specific). The optimal solution, should mplayer make it into Debian, would IMHO be to have multiple versions of it compiled for specific CPUs and that they can be installed at the same time (therefore the binaries would have to have names such as mplayer-p4, mplayer-k7, ...). Under mplayer itself there should be a script which determines the CPU type and then execs the correct binary (telling the user what package to install if no matching binary can be found). Voilà, CPU independent installation. -- Andreas Bombe [EMAIL PROTECTED]DSA key 0x04880A44
Re: Applicant w/ package
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 11:04:19PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 16:26:20 Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20011104 16:08]: Maybe it would be worth listing it on the can't be packaged page at URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package? you must be confused. the patent problems are only affecting the opendivx codec. I spoke with the maintainer about this problem, the opendivx codec is just not going into the mplayer package. the program itself is GPL regarding the technical issues, the main problem was that mplayer uses higher CPU optimizations on compilation. This can be solved by including a part of the sources in the binary package and building them in postinst or even by building many mplayer-* packages. Actually, the better approach is to include say a loadable module for each CPU type and load it on demand. Include all of them with the package. Don't do recompilation after install. -- .--===-=-==-=---==-=-. / Ben Collins--Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: Applicant w/ package
Andrew Suffield (2001-11-04 01:03:40 +) : On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:30:57PM -0300, ReivaX wrote: Hi ppl in this nice list :) Im looking to be an applicant to debian developer. It seems i need an advocate... I want more info on how to get someone know about me.. I have packaged mplayer (the video player for X) with gui support and a default skin, ready to be used. You have got to be kidding. Read any one of the half a dozen prior threads about this and how it cannot be packaged, due to license, patent, and upstream arsehole issues. Maybe it would be worth listing it on the can't be packaged page at URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package? Roland. -- Roland Mas S'agirait pas d'atteindre la sublime transcendance du supramental sans se bouger le fion un minimum... -- in Sri Raoul le petit yogi (Gaudelette) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applicant w/ package
* Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20011104 16:08]: Maybe it would be worth listing it on the can't be packaged page at URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package? Done. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applicant w/ package
On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 16:26:20 Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20011104 16:08]: Maybe it would be worth listing it on the can't be packaged page at URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package? you must be confused. the patent problems are only affecting the opendivx codec. I spoke with the maintainer about this problem, the opendivx codec is just not going into the mplayer package. the program itself is GPL regarding the technical issues, the main problem was that mplayer uses higher CPU optimizations on compilation. This can be solved by including a part of the sources in the binary package and building them in postinst or even by building many mplayer-* packages. this is a hard package, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] has done a great job making it work. please don't trash it and reassign that entry to ITP. thanks, -- -- Robert Millan Debian GNU/Hurd user zeratul2 wanadoo eshttp://getyouriso.dyndns.org/ -- GPG ID C8D6942C 237F 8688 C2E5 BC64 E152 97B4 FB28 D41B C8D6 942C -- Some words for my friends Carnivore and Echelon -- FBI CIA NSA Assault Bomb Terrorism Jihad Allah Ossama Bin Laden Saddam Hussein Handgun Assault Plane Crash Pentagon World Trade Center Whitehouse President Bush Putin Twin Towers Air Force One USA America DeCCS RIAA BSA piracy illegal drugs heroin Big Brother is watching you defcon nuclear holocaust world war arabian afghanistan cryptography PGP GPG crack RSA algorithm Chechnya OMON Spetsnaz T-72 Merkava M1A1 Abrams Chieftain Challenger Turret Apache Missiles Skinheads troopers Kazakhstan Muhhamed Atta --- Put this in your signature and join us in confusing the Big Brother -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applicant w/ package
Andrew Suffield (2001-11-04 01:03:40 +) : On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:30:57PM -0300, ReivaX wrote: Hi ppl in this nice list :) Im looking to be an applicant to debian developer. It seems i need an advocate... I want more info on how to get someone know about me.. I have packaged mplayer (the video player for X) with gui support and a default skin, ready to be used. You have got to be kidding. Read any one of the half a dozen prior threads about this and how it cannot be packaged, due to license, patent, and upstream arsehole issues. Maybe it would be worth listing it on the can't be packaged page at URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package? Roland. -- Roland Mas S'agirait pas d'atteindre la sublime transcendance du supramental sans se bouger le fion un minimum... -- in Sri Raoul le petit yogi (Gaudelette)
Re: Applicant w/ package
* Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20011104 16:08]: Maybe it would be worth listing it on the can't be packaged page at URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package? Done. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applicant w/ package
On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 16:26:20 Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20011104 16:08]: Maybe it would be worth listing it on the can't be packaged page at URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package? you must be confused. the patent problems are only affecting the opendivx codec. I spoke with the maintainer about this problem, the opendivx codec is just not going into the mplayer package. the program itself is GPL regarding the technical issues, the main problem was that mplayer uses higher CPU optimizations on compilation. This can be solved by including a part of the sources in the binary package and building them in postinst or even by building many mplayer-* packages. this is a hard package, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] has done a great job making it work. please don't trash it and reassign that entry to ITP. thanks, -- -- Robert Millan Debian GNU/Hurd user zeratul2 wanadoo eshttp://getyouriso.dyndns.org/ -- GPG ID C8D6942C 237F 8688 C2E5 BC64 E152 97B4 FB28 D41B C8D6 942C -- Some words for my friends Carnivore and Echelon -- FBI CIA NSA Assault Bomb Terrorism Jihad Allah Ossama Bin Laden Saddam Hussein Handgun Assault Plane Crash Pentagon World Trade Center Whitehouse President Bush Putin Twin Towers Air Force One USA America DeCCS RIAA BSA piracy illegal drugs heroin Big Brother is watching you defcon nuclear holocaust world war arabian afghanistan cryptography PGP GPG crack RSA algorithm Chechnya OMON Spetsnaz T-72 Merkava M1A1 Abrams Chieftain Challenger Turret Apache Missiles Skinheads troopers Kazakhstan Muhhamed Atta --- Put this in your signature and join us in confusing the Big Brother
Re: Applicant w/ package
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:30:57PM -0300, ReivaX wrote: Hi ppl in this nice list :) Im looking to be an applicant to debian developer. It seems i need an advocate... I want more info on how to get someone know about me.. I have packaged mplayer (the video player for X) with gui support and a default skin, ready to be used. You have got to be kidding. Read any one of the half a dozen prior threads about this and how it cannot be packaged, due to license, patent, and upstream arsehole issues. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `-http://www.debian.org/ | London, UK PGP signature
Re: Applicant w/ package
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:30:57PM -0300, ReivaX wrote: Hi ppl in this nice list :) Im looking to be an applicant to debian developer. It seems i need an advocate... I want more info on how to get someone know about me.. I have packaged mplayer (the video player for X) with gui support and a default skin, ready to be used. You have got to be kidding. Read any one of the half a dozen prior threads about this and how it cannot be packaged, due to license, patent, and upstream arsehole issues. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : | Dept. of Computing, `. `' | Imperial College, `-http://www.debian.org/ | London, UK pgpMP2mLx3Jtp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Applicant w/ package
Em 31 Oct 2001 17:30:57 -0300 ReivaX [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Hi ppl in this nice list :) Im looking to be an applicant to debian developer. It seems i need an advocate... I want more info on how to get someone know about me.. I have packaged mplayer (the video player for X) with gui support and a there was a long discussion about mplayer not long ago... maybe you'll want to check them out... btw, it would be useful if you posted urls or apt lines from where we can get your packages and look at them =) []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.cipsga.org.br | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Applicant w/ package
Hi ppl in this nice list :) Im looking to be an applicant to debian developer. It seems i need an advocate... I want more info on how to get someone know about me.. I have packaged mplayer (the video player for X) with gui support and a default skin, ready to be used. The only thing left out are the win32 codecs because i'm not sure if i should be able to package em (license restrictions or something). Anyway im contacting the mplayer author rigth now to know if that can be packaged. Well hope to get some help from here, since #debian wasnt much help :( Have a nice day all, --ReivaX
Re: Applicant w/ package
Em 31 Oct 2001 17:30:57 -0300 ReivaX [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Hi ppl in this nice list :) Im looking to be an applicant to debian developer. It seems i need an advocate... I want more info on how to get someone know about me.. I have packaged mplayer (the video player for X) with gui support and a there was a long discussion about mplayer not long ago... maybe you'll want to check them out... btw, it would be useful if you posted urls or apt lines from where we can get your packages and look at them =) []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov ** | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org| | : :' : | Debian BR...: http://debian-br.cipsga.org.br | | `. `'` | Be Happy! Be FREE! | | `-| Think globally, act locally! | **
