NIS is broken in Debian 1.3!

1997-06-02 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
Hello,

I asked this once and I got no answers. I know there's at least one
more person in this list with the same problem but we've been unable to
solve it.

The problem: With the lattest versions (unstable) of everything, the NIS
clients are unable to read the maps from the NIS server. No errors are
reported, the ypbind daemon seems to run well, even ypcat -x returns the
proper answer, but the fact is, the client can't see the server's user
accounts, groups or aliases files.

NOTE: In my configuration, the NIS server is Debian 1.3 with two
clients, one Debian 1.2 and one Debian 1.3. The lattest has never worked
but the former was just running ok ... until I installed Debian 1.3.

I don't believe I have any problem with my configuration (all the +
entries in the passwd, group and aliases files) and the ypbind daemon
connects just fine to the server. So,

Does anybody have a NIS installation running ok with Debian 1.3? I would
appreciate if any one can help me figure out what's going on.

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postgres can't find libbsd.so.1.0.0 - where / how

1997-06-02 Thread sasharma
Hello,
postgres and postmaster both can't find libbsd.so.1.0.0, and I can't 
find this in Contents.

I'm using debian  1.2 , postgres 1.01-1

(the cheapbytes distrib, files dated Jan 26 and 27)


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Re: Help: Problem in setting up network

1997-06-02 Thread J.P.D. Kooij


On Sun, 1 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to connect my compute to a LAN in the lab.
 The network card (NE2000 IRQ 03 0x300) works fine and is detecked by the
 kernel. After setting up all the stuff (/etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf,
 /etc/sysconf/network, ...), it still cann't recognize other 
 computer when I use 'ping'.   However, I noticed that when
 setting up, there is a message saying there is something wrong with
 'SIOCADDRT'.  And in file /proc/net/arp, all  the hosts (gateways, 
 nameserver) all have hw-address to be 00 00 00 00 . So, what is the 
 problem? 

If you can't ping any hosts, your network interface probably doesn't work 
properly. If your kernel detects the presence of a network card, that 
doesn't necessarily mean that the kernel can make the card work. The error 
message with SIOCADDRT is a clear sign of such a problem.

 Also, by setting the ether card, the mouse doesn't work anymore. Is
 this because of the ether card (IRQ 3)? is there any utility to 
 detech this problem?

You have a interrupt conflict between your ne2000 and serial port. They
both try to own irq 3. 

Since it is generally very hard to reassign the serial port irq, you'll
have to try to reassign the ne2000 irq. 

This might be as easy as changing a jumper or running a setup program on
the driver diskette that is included by the manufacturer (unfortunately,
these often require you to be able to boot into dos.) Sometimes you need
to remove the interrupt conflict before you can reprogram the ne2000. In
that case, you have to temporarily disable the serial port in your bios
setup (or move the ne2000 to a machine that will allow you to do so if
this one doesn't.)

Maybe the card is plug-'n-pray. In that case check out the isaplugnplay
package. 

Good luck,


Joost


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Re: Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 1, Randy Edwards wrote
 
I read a fragment of one message somewhere that 1.3 is actually in the
 frozen subdirectory; is that true?  If I were to make my dselect point at
 stable, non-free, contrib, and frozen would that cause the upgrade?  Or
 should I wait until it's moved from frozen to stable (anyone know if/when
 that'll be?)?

Yes, the 1.3 release candidate is held under the 'frozen' directory. But
since Debian 1.3 should be released during the coming week, I'd say wait
until frozen gets moved to stable.

Because of the way dpkg/dselect is currently built, you will probably need
to cycle a few times between Install (for the 'unpacking' phase) and
Configure (for the 'configure' phase) to get everything installed. Anything
that isn't fixed by running install/configure again is very probably a bug
and should be reported as such, or at least discussed on the Debian mailing
lists. (We can't fix it if we don't know about it.) But Debian 1.3 has seen
quite a bit more testing than 1.2, so the upgrade should go fairly smoothly
(if not very smoothly).

  Christian



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Re: Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 1, stephen farrell wrote
 
 Hm... I've found (so far...) on rather important flaw.  Perhaps I'm
 missing it, but it appears that xlockmore doesn't know about shadow
 passwords?  

Are you sure you're running the latest version from frozen? (i.e. 4.02-1)
It's got not problem with my shadow passwords. 

Or maybe this is a permission problem... /etc/shadow should be readable by
group shadow, and xlockmore should be setgid shadow.

  Christian


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Re: Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread stephen farrell


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On Jun 1, stephen farrell wrote
 
 Hm... I've found (so far...) on rather important flaw.  Perhaps I'm
 missing it, but it appears that xlockmore doesn't know about shadow
 passwords?  

Are you sure you're running the latest version from frozen? (i.e. 4.02-1)
It's got not problem with my shadow passwords. 


That's what I've got.

Or maybe this is a permission problem... /etc/shadow should be readable by
group shadow, and xlockmore should be setgid shadow.

Yep... that did it.  

Perhaps I didn't set up shadow stuff correctly?  I kind of stumbled
upon it: I noticed references to it, and I typed pwconv (which I
recognized from my solaris systems) and things seemed to work pretty
happily (except xlock), so I figured that this was it.  Is there a
convert me to shadow jobber I might not have noticed?

thanks (and sorry for the newbieness--I've just been running debian
for like a week now).

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Re: NIS is broken in Debian 1.3!

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick

 Does anybody have a NIS installation running ok with Debian 1.3? I would
 appreciate if any one can help me figure out what's going on.

It works here.

I'm not sure what your problem is.  What version of libc5 are you using?

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 1, stephen farrell wrote
 
 Perhaps I didn't set up shadow stuff correctly?  I kind of stumbled
 upon it: I noticed references to it, and I typed pwconv (which I
 recognized from my solaris systems) and things seemed to work pretty
 happily (except xlock), so I figured that this was it.  Is there a
 convert me to shadow jobber I might not have noticed?

Oh. That's the reason. You're supposed to turn on shadow passwords using
the shadowconfig command. Maybe that should be better documented. You
probably want to do a shadowconfig on since it does a few more things
than just running pwconv. (Take a look at it if you want, it's just a
simple shell script.) For more details, read /usr/doc/passwd/README.debian.gz

 thanks (and sorry for the newbieness--I've just been running debian
 for like a week now).

No problem! And newbieness is fully allowed on debian-user, no need to
excuse yourself.

  Christiain



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Re: gethostby* different in libc6

1997-06-02 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 1, Carey Evans wrote
 
 I would prefer not to be told that www.debian.org, for example, is
 authoritatively known not to exist, especially if there was just a
 temporary problem with the name servers.  Should I report this as a
 bug against libc6?

Looks like a bug to me. Better to report it to our bug tracking system and
have the Debian libc6 maintainer close it (providing an explanation) if it
isn't a bug than to let a potential bug like that pass by.

  Christian


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Re: Why not swap to files?

1997-06-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
It's my understanding that the overhead of the filesystem (ext2, or
whatever you have) as opposed to writing to a raw partition, is the
advantage of dedicating a partition for swap.

I usually just find a smaller drive that's laying around not doing
anything and make it the swap drive ... this machine uses a 250 MB
Quantum SCSI that was laying around after a friend upgraded his Mac.

I also had the impression that putting the swap aprtition at the
beginning of a drive resulted in better performance.

Btw, one of the latest README-s (sorry, I don't remember which one) said
that using a RAID0 device for swap was no longer a performance gain due
to changes in the swapon code.
 
Comments?

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On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Robert de Forest wrote:

:This isn't really a debian-specific question, but this is my favorite
:linux list by far.
:
:By default most linux distributions request and almost require that the
:user setup a swap partition. What is the advantage of swapping to a
:partition rather than swapping to a file? In my machine I have a /swap
:directory. As needed I can create files in this directory using dd as
:per the mkswap manpage and then swap on that.
:
:This is obviously more flexible, and since it's the same drive either
:way, the only possible performance hit would be if the kernel made a
:distinction.
:
:I've been thinking of setting up a background task to watch `free` to
:see if I need more or less swapspace and automatically add or remove it
:as necessary. Since I have 64M of ram this hasn't been a big priority,
:just something I thought would be fun.
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:Thoughts?
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Re: fdos

1997-06-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:

:On Sat, 31 May 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:
:
: Ok, perhaps I'm dreaming, but I thought fdos was in frozen at one time.
: Now it's not ... I see that it's in unstable though ... this isn't a big
: deal as I'm just setting up a machine to play around with.  Can I
: install the unstable fdos into a frozen system?
:
:Dosemu now includes it's own fdos image and no longer needs fdos.  As long
:as dependencys work out though, installing versions from different
:sections is usually okay.

I'll admit to being guilty of not reading all the docs (gasp) ... and
dosemu seems to work.  So, with that and what you say in mind, why does
dosemu still suggest fdos??  Am I missing something?

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Re: Debian FTP Installation through Internet (fwd)

1997-06-02 Thread W Paul Mills
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Boris D. Beletsky wrote:

Support is normally a module. The module must be loaded to work.


 Can somebody help this guy. Problem is that pppd tells him that
 kernel lacks PPP support - I told him that he should recompile the
 kernel but seems like it didn't work. I think I remember that there
 was some other reason that pppd would act that way.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:35:47 -0600
 From: Dustin Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Debian FTP Installation through Internet
 
 Boris D. Beletsky wrote:
  
  Download the package 'gcc' and 'cpp' from the devel section. Install
  them ( first cpp then gcc ) and compile the kernel.
  
  borik
  
 
 Sorry to bother you again, but I recompiled my kernel and enabled ppp
 support, and also made my kernel alot smaller by ommiting the extra scsi
 drivers that were not needed but still even when I run pon now it still
 tells me:
 
   Sorry - This system lacks PPP kernel support
 
 If you have any other thoughts about this odd problem please tell me.  I
 did have a Slackware Linux box working with the internet before but I
 was using dip and not pppd.
 
 
 
 
 thks
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Re: Help setting up a daemon

1997-06-02 Thread W Paul Mills
On Sat, 31 May 1997, Randy Edwards wrote:

I've been using fetchpop to grab my mail from my ISP.  I recently got
 diald up and working and now I want to run fetchpop as a daemon process.
 I've set up a script (using apmd as a guide) in /etc/init.d called
 fetchpop and it contains the following:
 
 #! /bin/sh
 #
 # Start or stop fetchpop as a daemon.
 #
 
 test -s /usr/bin/fetchpop || exit 0
 
 case $1 in
   start)
 echo Starting fetchpop as a mail daemon
 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /bin/su -- redwards -l -c 
 /usr/bin/fetchpop -d -r -l ~/fetchpop.log
 ;;
   stop)
 echo Stopping the fetchpop daemon process
 start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/bin/fetchpop -- -q
 rm /home/redwards/.lockfetch-golgotha
 ;;
   *)
 echo Usage: /etc/init.d/fetchpop {start|stop}
 exit 1
 esac
 
 exit 0
 
Then I went into each of the rc0.d through rc6.d subdirectories and
 created a symbolic link called K40fetchpop.  This link simply points to
 ^^^S40fetchpop

S for start, K for kill, your are telling it to shutdown on startup!



 ../init.d/fetchpop.
 
If boot the system and log in as root, go into /etc/init.d and type
 fetchpop start the program works perfectly.  Likewise, a similar
 fetchpop stop works fine too.  But for some reason, the program isn't
 getting started automatically at bootup.  Can anyone see an error and/or
 tell me why/what I'm doing wrong?  If so, I'd greatly appreciate it along 
 with any suggestions you might have.
 


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Re: ATI video card

1997-06-02 Thread W. Paul Mills
On Sat, 31 May 1997, John Maheu wrote:

 
 I recently upgraded my video card to a ATI 3D Xpression (PCI MACH64 GT)
 
 On bootup I notice:
 
 May 30 20:05:23 macrae1 kernel: Probing PCI hardware.
 May 30 20:05:23 macrae1 kernel: Warning : Unknown PCI device (1002:4754).
 Please read include/linux/pci.h
 
 include/linux/pci.h has the entries:
 
 #define PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI   0x1002
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_ATI_68800 0x4158
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_ATI_215CT222  0x4354
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_ATI_210888CX  0x4358
 #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_ATI_210888GX  0x4758 
 
 And cat /proc/pci:
 
 PCI devices found:
   Bus  0, device   9, function  0:
 VGA compatible controller: ATI Unknown device (rev 72).
   Vendor id=1002. Device id=4754.
   Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 255.
   Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe000.
   I/O at 0x6100.
   Bus  0, device   7, function  1:
 IDE interface: Intel 82371SB Natoma/Triton II PIIX3 (rev 0).
   Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.
 Latency=32.
   I/O at 0xf000.
   Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
 ISA bridge: Intel 82371SB Natoma/Triton II PIIX3 (rev 1).
   Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  No
 bursts.
   Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
 Host bridge: Intel 82437VX Triton II (rev 2).
   Medium devsel.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.
 
 I'm running Deb1.2 stable and the Mach64 server with no problems. Is there
 anything to be concerned about?

No. The PCI detect does not know exactly which hardware you have,
but it does know the vender, that it has an id that has not been 
included in pci.h and pci.c. This will NOT keep the card from working
properly. If it really bothers you, you can add one line in pci.h and
probably one line in pci.c to replace the message. I did that for my
ethernet card.

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Re: Debian FTP Installation through Internet (fwd)

1997-06-02 Thread Bruce Perens
I think he needs to load the serial driver. This was a problem in some
1.2 systems.

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Re: NIS is broken in Debian 1.3!

1997-06-02 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 05:14 PM 1/06/97 -0700, Jim Pick wrote:
It works here.

I'm not sure what your problem is.  What version of libc5 are you using?

I think he's right Jim - I did a fresh install, made sure I was using the
latest versions of libc and the like and I can't setup a _slave NIS
server_.  I can however set up an NIS client.

What makes it even more perculiar is that I have a Debian 1.1 system that's
the master NIS server, which I upgraded to 1.2 and now, to 1.3 - that
works.  I also had an NIS slave server that was Debian 1.2, which I
upgraded to 1.3 and that works fine too.  However, as I said, a 'fresh'
install of 1.3 (and making sure there's nothing later in bo) I can't setup
a slave server.

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Re: fdos

1997-06-02 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
 
 :On Sat, 31 May 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 :
 : Ok, perhaps I'm dreaming, but I thought fdos was in frozen at one time.
 : Now it's not ... I see that it's in unstable though ... this isn't a big
 : deal as I'm just setting up a machine to play around with.  Can I
 : install the unstable fdos into a frozen system?
 :
 :Dosemu now includes it's own fdos image and no longer needs fdos.  As long
 :as dependencys work out though, installing versions from different
 :sections is usually okay.
 
 I'll admit to being guilty of not reading all the docs (gasp) ... and
 dosemu seems to work.  So, with that and what you say in mind, why does
 dosemu still suggest fdos??  Am I missing something?

Yes, the latest dosemu.  Version 0.66.3-1 in frozen doesn't that I can
tell.

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Re: Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread System Account
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Jim Pick wrote:

 Just set dselect to point at: frozen non-free contrib

Wait!! Hold this upgrade!! Hehe sorry all but i was about to try
the upgrade tomorrow but i was going to use bo. What am i suppossed to
use Bo or Frozen??? 
Also i am going to setup a mirror on my machine but i really don't
want to mirror the whole site. I do want to mirror the 1.3 distribution
only. I will be using ftp.debian.org (i believe this is ok), so do i
mirror ftp.debian.org:/pub/debian/bo/ or /pub/debian/frozen/ ?

 Also, know what you are doing when dpkg asks if you want to replace
 configuration files.

Dpkg does (should) make a backup copy of the original conf file
before it replaces it correct? Is this a standard that all packages
include or just a few?
 
 For people running an old Debian system (1.1) - you are supposed to do
 the following before using dselect to upgrade:
 
 dpkg --clear-avail
 dpkg -i ldso_*.deb
 dpkg -i libc5_*.deb
 dpkg -i dpkg_*.deb dpkg-ftp_*.deb
 dpkg --purge --force-depends texbin

So this needs to be done before i start the upgrade (via dselect)?
Will this be so even when it is released this week sometime?
 
 I'm extremely happy with the way Debian 1.3, it's a huge improvement
 over 1.2.  I'm sure you'll like it too.  :-)

I'm running 1.2 now and find it great :) I know 1.3 will be
good aswell. I'd also like to thanx all the developers, maintainers, and
everyone else for this great OS
  
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Re: Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 
   Wait!! Hold this upgrade!! Hehe sorry all but i was about to try
 the upgrade tomorrow but i was going to use bo. What am i suppossed to
 use Bo or Frozen??? 

frozen is actually a symlink currently pointing to bo/
In a couple of days a symlynk stable will point to the same directory
(bo/) and frozen will be gone. So to mirror bo/ is a safer bet now.


   Also i am going to setup a mirror on my machine but i really don't
 want to mirror the whole site. I do want to mirror the 1.3 distribution
 only. I will be using ftp.debian.org (i believe this is ok), so do i
 mirror ftp.debian.org:/pub/debian/bo/ or /pub/debian/frozen/ ?
 
   Dpkg does (should) make a backup copy of the original conf file
 before it replaces it correct? Is this a standard that all packages
 include or just a few?

If they don't --it's a bug :(...

  
  For people running an old Debian system (1.1) - you are supposed to do
  the following before using dselect to upgrade:
  
  dpkg --clear-avail
  dpkg -i ldso_*.deb
  dpkg -i libc5_*.deb
  dpkg -i dpkg_*.deb dpkg-ftp_*.deb
  dpkg --purge --force-depends texbin
 
   So this needs to be done before i start the upgrade (via dselect)?
 Will this be so even when it is released this week sometime?

Yes, it still be needed to perform.


Alex Y.


  I'm extremely happy with the way Debian 1.3, it's a huge improvement
  over 1.2.  I'm sure you'll like it too.  :-)
 
   I'm running 1.2 now and find it great :) I know 1.3 will be
 good aswell. I'd also like to thanx all the developers, maintainers, and
 everyone else for this great OS
   
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undefined reference errors when compiling tcl-7.6p2

1997-06-02 Thread Jonathan Hankins
Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, but I have been fooling
with it for several days and can't seem to work it out. I have
checked all the applicable entries in the bug archives, and RTFM'd
where appropriate.

For some reason, the references to the inet_ntoa and 'inet_addr get
__ appended to them in the object files (and assembler input, if it
matters). They seem to be the only libc functions to have this
behavior. Is this a FAQ? I have tried the same compile on a system
based on the frozen tree, and the unstable with no luck. It works
fine on a non-debian (non glibc) Linux system. Unfortunately, I don't
have a system with pre-glibc debian on it anymore to try it out. I
have included output from the failed make and the versions info for
(I think) the relevant packages. I'll be glad to provide anymore
specific info if it would help.

Thanks,

-Jonathan

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---make  output

cc -rdynamic tclAppInit.o /home/jhankins/Temp/tcl-7.6p2/unix/libtcl7.6.a -ldl  
-lm -lc \
 -o tclsh
/home/jhankins/Temp/tcl-7.6p2/unix/libtcl7.6.a(tclUnixChan.o): In function 
`TcpGetOptionProc':
tclUnixChan.o(.text+0xfdc): undefined reference to `__inet_ntoa'
tclUnixChan.o(.text+0x1015): undefined reference to `__inet_ntoa'
tclUnixChan.o(.text+0x10cb): undefined reference to `__inet_ntoa'
tclUnixChan.o(.text+0x1105): undefined reference to `__inet_ntoa'
/home/jhankins/Temp/tcl-7.6p2/unix/libtcl7.6.a(tclUnixChan.o): In function 
`CreateSocketAddress':
tclUnixChan.o(.text+0x1432): undefined reference to `__inet_addr'
/home/jhankins/Temp/tcl-7.6p2/unix/libtcl7.6.a(tclUnixChan.o): In function 
`TcpAccept':
tclUnixChan.o(.text+0x176f): undefined reference to `__inet_ntoa'
make: *** [tclsh] Error 1

---

Version info:

gcc 2.7.2.2-4
binutils2.8-1
libc5   5.4.23-6
libc5-dev   5.4.23-6
libc6   2.0.3-4


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Re: making 16bpp the default in X

1997-06-02 Thread John Goerzen
Douglas L Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What do I need to do to make 16 bpp the default in X?

You can edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config and remove all the other modes.
If you are running xdm, you can edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and add
-bpp 16 to the command line.  If you are using startx or xinit, you
can set up an alias.

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What happened to seyon and xoj?

1997-06-02 Thread Matt Bartley
Because I keep a (very) partial mirror of Debian on a machine at work
(which is not Net connected), particularly the Packages files, I track
changes to the Packages files closely.  Recently I've noticed at least
2 packages have disappeared from the pre-hamm distribution.  They've
stayed that way for days so it's not just a mirror sync problem.

The seyon package no longer exists in the non-free section, and
grepping through bo's Contents file doesn't find it either.  It is in
hamm/non-free/comms/seyon_2.14c-4.deb, and according to the package
information depends on libc5 and not libc6.  Why does it no longer
exist in the stable/frozen version of non-free?

The xoj package also no longer exists in bo/binary/games, though the
Contents file for bo still shows it.  There is a version of xoj in
unstable/binary/games/xoj_1.01-2.deb, but it depends on libc6 so it
can only be used on an hamm system.  Why did the libc5 dependent
version disappear from bo?


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Re: making 16bpp the default in X

1997-06-02 Thread Douglas L Stewart
On 1 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote:

 Douglas L Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  What do I need to do to make 16 bpp the default in X?
 
 You can edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config and remove all the other modes.

Actually, this is what I tried originally and it doesn't work.

 If you are running xdm, you can edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and add
 -bpp 16 to the command line.  If you are using startx or xinit, you
 can set up an alias.

I don't run xdm because the X server (3.2A, 3.2 is just plain unusable) is
really flaky with a CT65550 and it's like there's a random chance every
time I start X that it's just going to hang and not let me out of it (a
hard reboot is the only way).

The alias sounds like it might be the only way to go in my current
situation.  Seems kind of lame though. :)

-douglas


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Re: Apache server-side includes questions

1997-06-02 Thread Pawel Wiecek
On May 29,  3:26pm, Pete Templin wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
   Somewhere along the line, my tricks (hacks?) for doing server-side
 inclusion of standardized (and separately changeable) headers and footers
 on web pages broke.  I admit to not knowing the _right_ way to do it,
 having stolen lots of bits and pieces along the way and learning
 originally on the ncsa server on my school's DEC box.
 
   Here's what I'm currently doing:
 
 !--#exec cmd=./header--
 
 is in the page.
 
 I had an .htaccess file that looked like this:
 
 AddType text/x-server-parsed-html .html
 Options All

And Apache version is? I guess 1.1 or higher... So you should rewrite
your .htaccess to look like this:

AddHandler server-parsed .html
Options All

 
 I've basically NOT touched the srm.conf file of my frozen version of
 apache.  I have uncommented two lines, but recommented them for testing
 purposes.
 
 If I attempt to view the page on Netscape under Debian, I am prompted to
 save the file to my home directory.

Sure, cause it doesn't know what to do with text/x-server-parsed-html...

 What's the Right Way(tm) to include the output of a perl script into a web
 page?

See above.

 It happens to work fine at http://www.bucknell.edu/~templin (the DEC box).

Old server... NSCA'a and old Apaches used pseudo MIME types, but it
changed...

 
 
 Thanks in advance for any/all help!
 
 
 Pete

   Paul

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Re: shadow-login - shadow: how?

1997-06-02 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On Jun 1, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote
I installed the shadow stuff from experimental a while back, and now I'd
like to move to the newer shadow suite with 1.3.  When I `dpkg -i` it
though, `dpkg` tells me that shadow-login is essential, and won't let the
upgrade happen.

I had this to, but I don't recall precisely how I solved it.  From dpkg's
--help and --force-helps, I gather that it would be something like
dpkg --force-remove-essential --auto-deconfigure -i newloginpackage.deb
should work; if not, you'd have to break this up in two steps (first
--force-remove-essential --remove shadowlogin, then _in the same session_ -i
the new login package).

HTH,
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Re: ps, pdf viewer

1997-06-02 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Rich Morin
 
 Personally to read .pdf files from the screen I really like the acroread
 package.  Unfortunately I couldn't get it to print, but gv worked like a
 charm.  I can't say exactly why, but the fonts are much cleaner, and
 readable in acroread, for me anyways.  

Just a wild guess: have you ever checked the Antialias option in the
File-Options menu in gv?  This can greatly enhance readability.  It
however also screwed up some files I made with xfig, not showing the
proper thickness of certain lines.

On a side track,  I really like xfig's functionality for making simple
drawings, or putting multiple eps files together with some additional
text.  However, every version I have seen seems to behave flakey in a
different way, e.g., the version I have now cannot properly display eps
files produced by itself!  Any other xfig userss out there with hints
and tricks?

Eric Meijer

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CAD package for Debian?

1997-06-02 Thread Lu Jimmy Chenji
Are there any CAD packages similar to AutoCad for Debian/Linux?
Please let me know.
Thanks in advance.
Jimmy Lu



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OMT and interaction diagrams with debian

1997-06-02 Thread Markus Diesmann
Hi,

I need to construct OMT and interaction diagrams.
Does anybody know of a tool available under debian
for doing this?

Maybe a simple flow chart software combined with a class browser,
which allows me to save the class tree in an editable format
is currently good enough for me.

Thanks,

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Re: Networking Win95, Debian Linux and Cable Modem

1997-06-02 Thread Paul Wade

1) If you don't have the IP masquerading howto, I mirror the Linux
Documentation Project at http://www.wtop.com/LDP/

2) I use the following setup to get around the above:

a) I run apache on the Linux box that is connected to the Internet with
cached proxy service enabled. This allows the other machines to be booted
to Linux or win and access web documents with a common cache. Netscape
seems to run better with a local cache, but now I can delete it at will
since the reload is at ethernet(not internet) speed. This even works with
secure(https) documents.

b) For other services, I telnet to the connected box and run from there.
If you need to get files for dos/win, run samba on the linux box and put
the files into the 'shared' directory. If you do this with a local login,
you can be transferring files to/from your 'X:' drive even while that
crappy Microsoft OS is crashing and rebooting. I have set up a few
commercial networks this way. The users typically run 95 workstations and
it allows me to telnet into the Linux server from my home and install
files without bothering them.

On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Ross D. Gardler wrote:

 I have two machines, one is a Win95 machine, one is a Linux machine.
 
 The Linux machine has a cable modem connection to the Internet.
 
 I would like to get the Win95 machine talking to the Linux Machine and to the 
 Internet via the cable modem. How do I do this?
 
 The Linux machine has two Ethernet cards and I have managed to get it to 
 recognise both but I can't seem to get it to talk to the Win95 machine. I 
 only have one IP address for the two machines, so do not know what to do with 
 the second.
 
 Any pointers?

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Re: What happened to seyon and xoj?

1997-06-02 Thread joost witteveen
don't know about seyon, but
 The xoj package also no longer exists in bo/binary/games, though the
 Contents file for bo still shows it.  There is a version of xoj in
 unstable/binary/games/xoj_1.01-2.deb, but it depends on libc6 so it
 can only be used on an hamm system.  Why did the libc5 dependent
 version disappear from bo?

xoj_1.01-1.deb, the one that depended on libc5, was miscompiled
by the debian maintainer (about 3 bugs filed against that package,
over a 6 month perioud, I think), and finaly he decided to recompile
it. As the libc5 version simply doesn't work, I guess the powers
that be decided (wisely) to remove it from bo.

In short, there hasn't been a working xoj package for the last
6 or so months (except maybe if you had _very_ old libc5 stuff), and the
xoj-..-2 one is the first working one.


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Re: keymapping, consolefont and mc

1997-06-02 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Markus Schneider wrote:

   I am also using bash-2.0, kbd-0.94 and de-latin1.map. I didn't set a
   special font. The only thing I had to do for mc to display german
   umlauts was to selecet Full 8 bits in the options menu under Display
   bits If this doesn't do what You want perhaphs selecting ISO
   8859-1 under the same menu will be.

Hmm, 'Full 8 bits' lets me enter some special chars, but not the correct ones.
'ISO 8859-1' doesn't help at all.

 try putting the following into your ~/.inputrc file (this file is read
 when bash is started)

[--- cut --- ]

I already had these entries in ~/.inputrc, without any effect for the
keyboard mapping and the console font.

 Look at
 /usr/doc/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.gz
 and
 /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Key-Setup.gz
 
 In general /usr/doc/HOWTO/German-HOWTO.gz is useful for dealing with
 german umlauts.

In the keyboard-HowTo I learned about 'unicode' charsets. Though I didn't
fully understand what this means (yet ;-), I tried to load some other
fonts.

After all, 'loadkeys de-latin1' and 'setfont lat1u-16' did what I wanted
(german umlauts and correct box borders for mc). I really can't understand
why you don't have to do this or something equivalent (or why I have to do
it).

Where do I have to insert the setfont command in the startup scripts?
Immediately following the loadkeys statement?

Thank you for your help,

  Ulf

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Re: making 16bpp the default in X

1997-06-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jun 01, 1997 at 10:56:02PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
 Douglas L Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  What do I need to do to make 16 bpp the default in X?
 
 You can edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config and remove all the other modes.
 If you are running xdm, you can edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and add
 -bpp 16 to the command line.  If you are using startx or xinit, you
 can set up an alias.

Much easier to set your DefaultColorDepth in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
I use startx with this, to run 16bpp by default.


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Re: Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread Vadim Vygonets
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, System Account (what a cute name!:) wrote:

   Wait!! Hold this upgrade!! Hehe sorry all but i was about to try
 the upgrade tomorrow but i was going to use bo. What am i suppossed to
 use Bo or Frozen???

Frozen, I think.  BTW I always use unstable for this purpose.

   Also i am going to setup a mirror on my machine but i really don't
 want to mirror the whole site. I do want to mirror the 1.3 distribution
 only. I will be using ftp.debian.org (i believe this is ok), so do i
 mirror ftp.debian.org:/pub/debian/bo/ or /pub/debian/frozen/ ?

Bo.  And hamm, if you want the Latest, Gratest and Unstabliest
versions of all.  Contrib and non-free will also be good to mirror
(they are bo's).  Hamm includes its own contrib and non-free; mirror
hamm/hamm if you don't want them.  BTW that's what I'm doing right
now, a mirror for three people (two of which are Debian maintainers).
I'm mirroring bo, hamm, contrib, non-free, dists, doc and indices for
2 days already, and only 21% is finished ;)

   Dpkg does (should) make a backup copy of the original conf file
 before it replaces it correct? Is this a standard that all packages
 include or just a few?

It's a feature of dpkg, so it always makes a backup copy.

  For people running an old Debian system (1.1) - you are supposed to do
  the following before using dselect to upgrade:
  
  dpkg --clear-avail
  dpkg -i ldso_*.deb
  dpkg -i libc5_*.deb
  dpkg -i dpkg_*.deb dpkg-ftp_*.deb
  dpkg --purge --force-depends texbin
 
   So this needs to be done before i start the upgrade (via dselect)?
 Will this be so even when it is released this week sometime?

Yes, and yes.  But it's only for the oldies who haven't upgraded their
system for many many months.

   I'm running 1.2 now and find it great :) I know 1.3 will be
 good aswell. I'd also like to thanx all the developers, maintainers, and
 everyone else for this great OS

Thank you.

Vadik.

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Re: What happened to seyon and xoj?

1997-06-02 Thread Vadim Vygonets
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Matt Bartley wrote:

 The xoj package also no longer exists in bo/binary/games, though the
 Contents file for bo still shows it.  There is a version of xoj in
 unstable/binary/games/xoj_1.01-2.deb, but it depends on libc6 so it
 can only be used on an hamm system.  Why did the libc5 dependent
 version disappear from bo?

1.01-1 was buggy.  1.01-2 was uploaded to bo, but maybe was taken off
because of libc6 dependence.

Vadik, xoj maintainer.

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Leafnode permissions

1997-06-02 Thread Brian Skreeg

Hi,

I`m using leafnode from 1.2.8 Iconnect CD. A damn good prog for dial-up
stuff and much easier to use than the heavier cnews and INN. My problem
comes from the permissions. I want to be able to fetch news using
my personal account oz but no matter how I setuid the /usr/sbin/fetch
program it always says the following;

/usr/sbin/fetch: must be run as news or root

I`m not too hot at the setuid business but I`ve tried various configurations
and can`t get it to accept being run from anything other than news.

Help?


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Re: Help: Problem in setting up network

1997-06-02 Thread W Paul Mills
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to connect my compute to a LAN in the lab.
 The network card (NE2000 IRQ 03 0x300) works fine and is detecked by the
 kernel. After setting up all the stuff (/etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf,
 /etc/sysconf/network, ...), it still cann't recognize other 
 computer when I use 'ping'.   However, I noticed that when
 setting up, there is a message saying there is something wrong with
 'SIOCADDRT'.  And in file /proc/net/arp, all  the hosts (gateways, 
 nameserver) all have hw-address to be 00 00 00 00 . So, what is the 
 problem? 
 
 Also, by setting the ether card, the mouse doesn't work anymore. Is
 this because of the ether card (IRQ 3)? is there any utility to 
 detech this problem?

Normally the first serial port is IRQ 4 and the second is IRQ 3. 
I would say that you need to move the ether card to another IRQ.
It is difficult to accurately determine by software what IRQ is
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Re: Leafnode permissions

1997-06-02 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Brian Skreeg wrote:

 I`m using leafnode from 1.2.8 Iconnect CD. A damn good prog for dial-up
 stuff and much easier to use than the heavier cnews and INN. My problem
 comes from the permissions. I want to be able to fetch news using
 my personal account oz but no matter how I setuid the /usr/sbin/fetch
 program it always says the following;
 
 /usr/sbin/fetch: must be run as news or root
 
 I`m not too hot at the setuid business but I`ve tried various configurations
 and can`t get it to accept being run from anything other than news.

try setting up sudo to allow oz to run /usr/sbin/fetch as root.

then (as oz), you can run sudo /usr/sbin/fetch.

If you put oz in group sudo (edit /etc/groups), then oz wont even need to
enter the root password to run it.

You can also do the same thing with 'super', which is another package which
allows certain users to run certain commands as root (or as another uid)

See the documentation for sudo and/or super for more details.  

Also, there are security concerns with any setuid programs, and you
shouldn't just blindly follow random advice from the net - the only way
to trust your system's security setup is to understand it.




Another (uglier) method would be to have a cron job running as news which
checks for the existence of a file called '/tmp/fetchnews/fetch.news.now'.
if it exists, then 'rm -f /tmp/fetchnews/fetch.news.now' and run
/usr/sbin/fetch.

You'll have to experiment with the permissions to allow oz to create the
file and news delete ite.g. /tmp/fetchnews could be a subdirectory
owned by oz, group news, setgid and writable by owner  group

mkdir /tmp/fetchnews
chown oz.news /tmp/fetchnews
chmod 4775 /tmp/fetchnews

should do it.

Get cron to run this every minute while you're testing the setup and
when it's working properly, change it to something more reasonable (like
every 5 or 10 minutes).

Then, all oz needs to do is 'touch /tmp/fetchnews/fetch.news.now' (which
could be put into a shell script or bash alias), and the news will be
fetched the next time the cron job runs.


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Re: NIS is broken in Debian 1.3!

1997-06-02 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
Both the server and the client machines have libc5 version 5.4.23-4 and 
libc6 version 2.0.3-4. Let me give you an example of what's happening on
the client machine:

~ ypmatch rover passwd
rover:V/8DB9sycYRnM:1017:1017::/home/rover:/bin/bash
~ su rover
su: user rover does not exist  

However, the /etc/passwd file in the client machine ends with the line
+:: Shouldn't this work?

So, the NIS binding process is ok, but all system utilities (like su,
ls, passwd, etc.) in the client machine are unable to see the NIS maps.

Jim Pick wrote:
 
  Does anybody have a NIS installation running ok with Debian 1.3? I would
  appreciate if any one can help me figure out what's going on.
 
 It works here.
 
 I'm not sure what your problem is.  What version of libc5 are you using?
 
 Cheers,
 
  - Jim
 
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problem with afterstep

1997-06-02 Thread Magic

Hi!

I have a problem with afterstep. I love this window-maneger but...
I haven't an icon on my Wharf :-( For example...

Part of .steprc
---
# Paths...
IconPath /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/
PixmapPath /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/

# and main Folder (dafault!)

*Wharf AfterStep AFstep.xpm Folder

*Wharf Shutdown  shutdown.xpm  Quit
*Wharf xlock KeysOnChain.xpm Exec - xlock -modelist braid flame grav pyro 
qix rock spiral spline swarm worm -mode random -duration 0 -allowroot 
-usefirst 

*Wharf ~Folder
---

and of course...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -al /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/AFstep.xpm
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 8716 May 18 15:42 
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/AFstep.xpm

Hehhh... xpm is in right directory, in my .steprc i think it's good written...
Can somebody help me? Thx!

Magic
ps. and version...

ii  afterstep   1.0-3  A window manager with the NEXTSTEP look and

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Re: alien, xfree86, and other bugs

1997-06-02 Thread Brian White
  If only bug fixes could be allowed in, this would be a good idea.
  Unfortunately, this isn't a practical possibility.  Every time a new
  package is uploaded to fix a bug, there is the possibility of introducing
  new bugs either in the patch code, other code that got added for some
  reason, or even in the packaging itself.
 
  At some point, there just isn't time for the testing group to validate
  new package before release.  At least twice I've had to remove simple
  major bug fixes because they were compiled against libc6 from hamm.
 
 
 I see your point. But could there be another solution (at least
 for a periods of major distribution changes like a.out-elf and
 libc5-libc6)?
 
 I thouhgt of having in addition of stable, unstable, and frozen
 distributions the one called, say, unsupported. This distribution
 could be used for uploading all the bugfixes in stable, including
 even new upstream bugfix releases. They will surely be tested after
 the upload and, after sufficient time could become the part of
 debian 1.3.9 or something like that.

One of the major problems with this is who is going to test it.  If
the vast majority of the developers (which includes the testing group)
have already moved over to the new (libc6) system, then who is going to
do the rigorous testing on the unsupported packages?

Also, ideally all new release-ready packages should be built and tested
on a system that only uses released packages.  Since developers will be
tracking the unstable tree, such systems are difficult to come by.  This
makes bug-fixing more complicated as well.


 It would be also a big deal to me (and I think I am not alone) to have a
 libc5 version of the coming Xfree86 3.3 release there. This would allow
 the users with previously unsupported videocards to have the X istalled
 along with much more stable the rest of the distribution.

X is so big and has so many bugs that I don't think this is possible.  To
do this would involve putting a large amount of effort that, in my opinion,
would be better spent towards improving the version in Hamm.

I agree that it would be nice to support the extra video cards, but there
is nothing stopping users from upgrading to the X packages in Hamm.  Libc5
and libc6 coexist quite nicely from a user's point of view, so having an
X server from Hamm based on libc6 and everything else from Bo should not
be a problem.

Having a user track X from Hamm will also probably mean better support and
faster response than tracking a parallel version in Bo.

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Possible bug in libc6...

1997-06-02 Thread Dale Martin

Hello.  I recently upgraded to libc6 (dev,dbg, pic, etc) using the
package from the hamm directory.  (I realize this is VERY unstable
stuff - I'm just glutton for punishment :-)  Everything appears to be
working well, although I have hit two minor snags.

The first is that the new version of amd (am-utils-6.0a5) won't
compile with libc6, but it will with libc5.  No big deal - just
thought I'd mention it.

The other is that I noticed in the large system I'm developing, test
runs where I would generally get core dumps, I'm getting infinite
hangs.  Looking into this a little further, I developed the following
test case:

[ begin included source ]

#include signal.h
#include stdlib.h

int flag;

void catch_core_dumps( int ){
  if( flag == 1){
exit(-1);
  }
  else if ( flag == 2 ){
signal( SIGSEGV, SIG_DFL );  
  }
}

int 
main( int argc, char *argv[] ){
  
  flag = argc;

  signal( SIGSEGV, catch_core_dumps );
  
  int *foo = (int *)0;
  *foo = 1;
}

[ end included source ]

Basically, when you run this program, depending on the number of
arguments you get it, it does different things.

No arguments, it calls exit.  Good enough.  

One argument, it resets the signal handler, and a core dump is
generated.  Again, good enough.

More than one argument, under libc5 and solaris, a core dump is
generated.  Under libc6, I get an infinite hang.  Is this because
doing nothing is undefined, or is it a bug.  Anyone running
glibc-2.0.4 - if so, does it still do this?  I.e. is this worth
submitting as a bug report?

Thanks,
Dale

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Weird Pine/Slang/Terminal interaction?

1997-06-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
Here's the scenario ... I'm forced to use Win95 by my employer.  To get
to my Linux boxes I use either CRT, a shareware telnet client which I
really like, and F-Secure's SSH, which I also like.

About the time I upgraded to 1.3, I noticed that after running Pine (in
other words, not until I got to the shell prompt) there would be weird
characters on the screen; usually just two vertical bars on the far left
of the screen.  Sometimes I get underscores here and there ...

Now, here's the wierd part.  This almost never happens with CRT.  It
does happen with F-Secure's SSH, almost every time.  That makes me
hesitant to blame Pine, or Slang, or the Linux box at all ... after all,
we've seen a few other Windows programs that didn't do exactly what they
ought to do.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this, or am I once again
being punished by this OS on my desktop?

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Re: problem with afterstep

1997-06-02 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
On Jun 2, Magic wrote
 I have a problem with afterstep. I love this window-maneger but...
 I haven't an icon on my Wharf :-( For example...

Are your running in 8bpp mode (256 colours) perhaps?

From /usr/doc/afterstep/FAQ.gz:
  3.3.  Icons disappear from Wharf. What's wrong?
 
  You are most likely running out of colors. Either upgrade your
  hardware, switch to a higher color depth (i.e. 16 bpp or higher), or
  use icons that contain fewer colors. See question ``''.

(question 3.2 contains some hints to reduce colour use).

HTH,
Ray
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Re: postgres can't find libbsd.so.1.0.0 - where / how

1997-06-02 Thread sasharma
OK, 
I went and searched each of the archives for the last 9 months, 
starting last Nov. and in the May (april? - near the end of the search,
 anyway - natch)archives I found the answer, I need
to download 6.0 from the postgres site  and compile.

Is there a cleaner way? should I place the entire build in /usr/local
so I can blow it away when the debian postgres becomes usable and I
can manage upgrades easily?

 Hello,
 postgres and postmaster both can't find libbsd.so.1.0.0, and I can't 
 find this in Contents.
 
 I'm using debian  1.2 , postgres 1.01-1
 
 (the cheapbytes distrib, files dated Jan 26 and 27)
 


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Re: problem with afterstep

1997-06-02 Thread Magic
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, J.H.M.Dassen wrote:

 On Jun 2, Magic wrote

  I have a problem with afterstep. I love this window-maneger but...
  I haven't an icon on my Wharf :-( For example...
 Are your running in 8bpp mode (256 colours) perhaps?

Hehhh... I forgot... It was in 16bpp

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ startx -- -bpp 16

 From /usr/doc/afterstep/FAQ.gz:
   3.3.  Icons disappear from Wharf. What's wrong?
[snip...]

So... it isn't this problem Any other ideas?
Thx!
  Magic
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Problems with X

1997-06-02 Thread Lamar Folsom
Howdy, y'all.

Before I explain the problem, let me provide a little background.  A
couple of weeks ago, I decided to upgrade my system from 1.2 to 1.3.
Rather than just switching to the frozen directory and upgrading
packages, I did a full install to see if I could help test the new
distribution.  Things went well until I got to X.  Unfortunately for
me, I had forgotten to save off my working XF86Config file, so I went
ahead and generated a new on using the nice vga16 method.  The newly
generated config file didn't work.  X would start with no errors, but
tty7 was blank.  I thought that maybe I had specified the wrong
parameters for my monitor, so I verified those in /usr/doc/X11/Monitors
and made some minor adjustments in XF86Config.  I got the same result;
tty7 was blank.  I then decided to try the old tty version of
xf86config and regenerated the XF86Config file.  Once again, the same
result.  I now must admit to being stumped.  I would appreciate any
and all help.  I'm including the output from startx, and the Device,
Monitor, and Screen sections from /etc/XF86Config.

Thanks in advance,
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Output from startx:
---
XFree86 Version 3.2 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6100)
Release Date: Oct 26 1996
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  ET4000W32: accelerated server for ET4000W32 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0):
  et4000w32, et4000w32i, et4000w32p_rev_a, et4000w32i_rev_b,
  et4000w32i_rev_c, et4000w32p_rev_b, et4000w32p_rev_c,
  et4000w32p_rev_d, et6000
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psaux, baudrate: 1200
(**) ET4000W32: Graphics device ID: ET4000/W32
(**) ET4000W32: Monitor ID: NEC MultiSync 4FGe
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(--) ET4000W32: ET4000: Initial hibit state: high
(--) ET4000W32: Ramdac: att20c490
(--) ET4000W32: chipset:  et4000w32
(**) ET4000W32: videoram: 1023k
(--) ET4000W32: clocks:  25.16  28.32  32.64  36.11  40.12  45.07  31.53  37.74
(--) ET4000W32: clocks:  50.32  56.65  65.28  72.22  80.25  90.15  63.07  75.49
(--) ET4000W32: clocks:  12.58  14.16  15.79  18.05  20.06  22.53  25.16  32.64
(--) ET4000W32: clocks:  25.16  28.32  31.59  36.11  40.12  45.07  50.32  65.28
(--) ET4000W32: Ramdac speed: 86
(--) ET4000W32: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 86.000 MHz
(**) ET4000W32: Mode 1024x768: mode clock =  81.000, clock used =  80.250
(**) ET4000W32: Mode 800x600: mode clock =  50.000, clock used =  50.320
(**) ET4000W32: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  31.000, clock used =  31.530
(**) ET4000W32: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
PEX extension module not loaded
XIE extension module not loaded
-

Device section of XF86Config:
-
Section Device
Identifier  ET4000/W32
VendorName  NEC
BoardName   Unknown
VideoRam1024
#Clocks  25.16  28.32  32.64  36.11  40.12  45.07  31.53  37.74
#Clocks  50.32  56.65  65.28  72.22  80.25  90.15  63.07  75.48
#Clocks  12.58  14.16  15.79  18.05  20.06  22.53  25.16  32.64
#Clocks  25.16  28.32  31.59  36.11  40.12  45.07  50.32  65.28
EndSection
--

Monitor section of XF86Config:
--
Section Monitor

Identifier  NEC MultiSync 4FGe
VendorName  NEC
ModelName   MultiSync 4FGe
BandWidth   80  # from /usr/doc/X11/Monitors

HorizSync   27-62   # from /usr/doc/X11/Monitors

VertRefresh 55-90   # from /usr/doc/X11/Monitors

# Modelines from /usr/doc/X11/Monitors
ModeLine 640x480  31  640  680  704  832 480 489 492 520
ModeLine 800x600  50  800  864  976 1040 600 637 643 666
ModeLine 1024x768 81 1024 1068 1204 1324 768 776 782 807

EndSection
---

Screen section of XF86Config:
-
Section Screen
Driver  accel
Device  ET4000/W32
Monitor NEC MultiSync 4FGe
Subsection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
ViewPort0 0
Virtual 1024 768
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth   16
Modes   800x600 640x480
ViewPort0 0
Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth   24
Modes   640x480
ViewPort0 0

Re: Problems with X

1997-06-02 Thread Paul McDermott
hi Lamar, I had something similar happen to me.  The problem is in your 
/etc/X11/Xserver file the last line should contain the following:
:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
The reason why you are not getting anything on tty7 is that you are not 
starting your xserver.  I hope this helps.  Just for grins do a ps-aux to 
see if xdm is running.
Paul 


On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Lamar Folsom wrote:

 Howdy, y'all.
 
 Before I explain the problem, let me provide a little background.  A
 couple of weeks ago, I decided to upgrade my system from 1.2 to 1.3.
 Rather than just switching to the frozen directory and upgrading
 packages, I did a full install to see if I could help test the new
 distribution.  Things went well until I got to X.  Unfortunately for
 me, I had forgotten to save off my working XF86Config file, so I went
 ahead and generated a new on using the nice vga16 method.  The newly
 generated config file didn't work.  X would start with no errors, but
 tty7 was blank.  I thought that maybe I had specified the wrong
 parameters for my monitor, so I verified those in /usr/doc/X11/Monitors
 and made some minor adjustments in XF86Config.  I got the same result;
 tty7 was blank.  I then decided to try the old tty version of
 xf86config and regenerated the XF86Config file.  Once again, the same
 result.  I now must admit to being stumped.  I would appreciate any
 and all help.  I'm including the output from startx, and the Device,
 Monitor, and Screen sections from /etc/XF86Config.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Lamar
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 Output from startx:
 ---
 XFree86 Version 3.2 / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6100)
 Release Date: Oct 26 1996
   If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
   than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
   problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
 Operating System: Linux [ELF] 
 Configured drivers:
   ET4000W32: accelerated server for ET4000W32 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 
 0):
   et4000w32, et4000w32i, et4000w32p_rev_a, et4000w32i_rev_b,
   et4000w32i_rev_c, et4000w32p_rev_b, et4000w32p_rev_c,
   et4000w32p_rev_d, et6000
 (using VT number 7)
 
 XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
 (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
 (**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings)
 (**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psaux, baudrate: 1200
 (**) ET4000W32: Graphics device ID: ET4000/W32
 (**) ET4000W32: Monitor ID: NEC MultiSync 4FGe
 (**) FontPath set to 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
 (--) ET4000W32: ET4000: Initial hibit state: high
 (--) ET4000W32: Ramdac: att20c490
 (--) ET4000W32: chipset:  et4000w32
 (**) ET4000W32: videoram: 1023k
 (--) ET4000W32: clocks:  25.16  28.32  32.64  36.11  40.12  45.07  31.53  
 37.74
 (--) ET4000W32: clocks:  50.32  56.65  65.28  72.22  80.25  90.15  63.07  
 75.49
 (--) ET4000W32: clocks:  12.58  14.16  15.79  18.05  20.06  22.53  25.16  
 32.64
 (--) ET4000W32: clocks:  25.16  28.32  31.59  36.11  40.12  45.07  50.32  
 65.28
 (--) ET4000W32: Ramdac speed: 86
 (--) ET4000W32: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 86.000 MHz
 (**) ET4000W32: Mode 1024x768: mode clock =  81.000, clock used =  80.250
 (**) ET4000W32: Mode 800x600: mode clock =  50.000, clock used =  50.320
 (**) ET4000W32: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  31.000, clock used =  31.530
 (**) ET4000W32: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
 PEX extension module not loaded
 XIE extension module not loaded
 -
 
 Device section of XF86Config:
 -
 Section Device
 Identifier  ET4000/W32
 VendorName  NEC
 BoardName   Unknown
 VideoRam1024
 #Clocks  25.16  28.32  32.64  36.11  40.12  45.07  31.53  37.74
 #Clocks  50.32  56.65  65.28  72.22  80.25  90.15  63.07  75.48
 #Clocks  12.58  14.16  15.79  18.05  20.06  22.53  25.16  32.64
 #Clocks  25.16  28.32  31.59  36.11  40.12  45.07  50.32  65.28
 EndSection
 --
 
 Monitor section of XF86Config:
 --
 Section Monitor
 
 Identifier  NEC MultiSync 4FGe
 VendorName  NEC
 ModelName   MultiSync 4FGe
 BandWidth 80  # from /usr/doc/X11/Monitors
 
 HorizSync   27-62 # from /usr/doc/X11/Monitors
 
 VertRefresh 55-90 # from /usr/doc/X11/Monitors
 
 # Modelines from /usr/doc/X11/Monitors
 ModeLine 640x480  31  640  680  704  832 480 489 492 520
 ModeLine 800x600  50  800  864  976 1040 600 637 643 666
 ModeLine 1024x768 81 1024 1068 1204 1324 768 776 782 807
 
 EndSection
 ---
 
 Screen section of XF86Config:
 -
 Section Screen
 Driver  

sparc port

1997-06-02 Thread stephen farrell

What's the status on the sparc port of debian?  Is there a
mostly-stable-but-not-yet-released version? I'd hate to have to go
back to redhat for that...

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How to upgrade to 1.3?

1997-06-02 Thread Adam Klein
I get my internet access through a freenet which doesn't provide any SLIP/PPP
services.  This means that I have to use minicom to download packages; Is it
possible to upgrade to Debian 1.3 using this method?  Also, there's a 45
minute time limit and I only have a 14.4 modem.  This means that it's 
impossible for me to download some of the big packages like Emacs.  Are there
versions of these big packages that are split up into smaller pieces?
Thanks.



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Laser printer

1997-06-02 Thread Alex Yukhimets
Hi folks.

Could anyone tell me which one of the currently available laser printers
would be linux-compatible (the correct formulation would probably be
gs - compatible?). I am interesting in B/W and on the lower price side.
I am very confused with those Windows compatible slogans in
advertisments.

Thank you.

Alex Y.


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Re: How to upgrade to 1.3?

1997-06-02 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 
 I get my internet access through a freenet which doesn't provide any SLIP/PPP
 services.  This means that I have to use minicom to download packages; Is it
 possible to upgrade to Debian 1.3 using this method?  Also, there's a 45
 minute time limit and I only have a 14.4 modem.  This means that it's 
 impossible for me to download some of the big packages like Emacs.  Are there
 versions of these big packages that are split up into smaller pieces?
 Thanks.

I have some vague recollection that Z-modem protocol might have the
feature to resume interrupted download...

Alex Y.

 
 
 
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ISP connect doc.

1997-06-02 Thread Timothy Phan
Hi,

  Would someone please suggest which doc to read for ISP connection
  for Debian/Linux?  Thanks!

  What are the software packages required for ISP connection setup?
  Thanks!

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Re: Problems with X

1997-06-02 Thread Lamar Folsom
 hi Lamar, I had something similar happen to me.  The problem is in your 
 /etc/X11/Xserver file the last line should contain the following:
 :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
 The reason why you are not getting anything on tty7 is that you are not 
 starting your xserver.  I hope this helps.  Just for grins do a ps-aux to 
 see if xdm is running.
 Paul 
 

Hi, Paul.

Thanks for the suggestion.  Unfortunately, it doesn't fix the problem.
I think that you meant to say that ':0 lamar /usr/X11R6/bin/X' should
go into /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.  At least this is the format of the
entries in that file.  When I put it into /etc/X11/Xserver, it seems
to have no effect, and even when I add it to xdm/Xservers and try
starting 'xdm -nodaemon' to test xdm, I still get a blank screen on
tty7.  (btw, xdm isn't running normally.  I changed /etc/X11/config to
skip starting xdm since X will run without errors but give me no
screen.)

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Re: Laser printer

1997-06-02 Thread Alexandre Lebrun

Well, for a complete discution you could switch to comp.os.linux.hardware

I bought a hp 5L recently and it's cool.
Any HP (or other) which understand PCL and has, say, at least 1Mb memory 
should do it.

I suppose the Postscript ones are too expensive for you.
The GDI (=windows) printers won't work. Some can pcl, but they often 
don't have enough memory (pcl files are bigger than ps, I believe).

for ghostscript, see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html

Alexandre

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote:

 Hi folks.
 
 Could anyone tell me which one of the currently available laser printers
 would be linux-compatible (the correct formulation would probably be
 gs - compatible?). I am interesting in B/W and on the lower price side.
 I am very confused with those Windows compatible slogans in
 advertisments.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Alex Y.


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Re: How to upgrade to 1.3?

1997-06-02 Thread Bruce Perens
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 I get my internet access through a freenet which doesn't provide any SLIP/PPP
 services.  This means that I have to use minicom to download packages; 
 Also, there's a 45 minute time limit and I only have a 14.4 modem.

Do you have a CD drive? Your best bet might be to wait for inexpensive
1.3 CDs to come out.

Thanks

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Problems with X, reprise

1997-06-02 Thread Lamar Folsom
Hi again, y'all.

Though Paul's suggestion didn't solve my problem, it _did_ remind me
that /etc/X11/Xserver should be pointing to /usr/X11R6/bin/X instead
of XF86_W32.  After I made this change, I now get a different response
from the X server:

(crystalcave:merlin)~$ startx

Unable to load interpreter
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
(crystalcave:merlin)~$

I also get this response if I try to run startx as root.

Help. :

Thanks,
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Re: Problems with X

1997-06-02 Thread Paul McDermott
sorry lamar, look in the file Xservers in /etc/X11/xdm that is where you 
change it. sorry for the miss information.


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Re: CAD package for Debian?

1997-06-02 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Lu Jimmy Chenji wrote:

 Are there any CAD packages similar to AutoCad for Debian/Linux?
 Please let me know.
 Thanks in advance.

Bentley has a student version of MicroStation for Linux.


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SU Problems

1997-06-02 Thread Paul McDermott
Hi folks, I just installed X version 3.2 on my system this past few 
weeks.  I am having problems do things as su. ie for the first error 
message is one that I receive whenever I try to run an X program as su.  
This error message is when I was trying to use xclock.  I have check 
xclocks permissions, ownership both seem to be in order. Ownership is 
root.root and the Permissions are 755.  This error happens when I try to 
run all x programs. 

Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
open display failed
InitXWindows failed, exiting

This error is when I try to run emacs as su.

Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0.
Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
connections from your machine.

I cam run things as user paul and if I login as root.  If you have any 
suggestions or need any more information please email me.
Paul


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Re: Apache server-side includes questions

1997-06-02 Thread Tom Lees
On Thu, 29 May 1997, Pete Templin wrote:

 Hello,
 
   Somewhere along the line, my tricks (hacks?) for doing server-side
 inclusion of standardized (and separately changeable) headers and footers
 on web pages broke.  I admit to not knowing the _right_ way to do it,
 having stolen lots of bits and pieces along the way and learning
 originally on the ncsa server on my school's DEC box.
 
   Here's what I'm currently doing:
 
 !--#exec cmd=./header--
 
 is in the page.
 
 I had an .htaccess file that looked like this:
 
 AddType text/x-server-parsed-html .html

Use AddHandler server-parser .html instead, this will fix everything.

 Options All
 
 I've basically NOT touched the srm.conf file of my frozen version of
 apache.  I have uncommented two lines, but recommented them for testing
 purposes.
 
 If I attempt to view the page on Netscape under Debian, I am prompted to
 save the file to my home directory.

Because netscape doesn't understand text/x-server-parsed-html - it should
be text/html.

 
 What's the Right Way(tm) to include the output of a perl script into a web
 page?

As you were doing it. Or, use a CGI, and point it at a target frame :)

PS. the perl script you had there can be done without using perl:
!--#include blah -- instead. Blah can !--#echo var=LAST_MODIFIED --.
Much quicker, less resource-hungry.

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Re: SU Problems

1997-06-02 Thread Roberto Magana
Use su -

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Re: Apache server-side includes questions

1997-06-02 Thread Pete Templin

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Tom Lees wrote:

  Somewhere along the line, my tricks (hacks?) for doing server-side
  inclusion of standardized (and separately changeable) headers and footers
  on web pages broke.  I admit to not knowing the _right_ way to do it,
  having stolen lots of bits and pieces along the way and learning
  originally on the ncsa server on my school's DEC box.
  
  Here's what I'm currently doing:
  
  !--#exec cmd=./header--
  
  is in the page.
  
  I had an .htaccess file that looked like this:
  
  AddType text/x-server-parsed-html .html
 
 Use AddHandler server-parser .html instead, this will fix everything.
 
  What's the Right Way(tm) to include the output of a perl script into a web
  page?
 
 As you were doing it. Or, use a CGI, and point it at a target frame :)
 
 PS. the perl script you had there can be done without using perl:
 !--#include blah -- instead. Blah can !--#echo var=LAST_MODIFIED --.
 Much quicker, less resource-hungry.

It's still showing the #includes as comments.  Any ideas?

http://templinux.bucknell.edu/~templin  

Pete

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Re: BIND 8.1??

1997-06-02 Thread Raja R Harinath
Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Wed, 14 May 1997, Remco van de Meent wrote:
 On Wed, 14 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote:
 I undestand that there is a BIND 8.1 now.  Why are we at 4.9.5 and
 there's an 8.1 out?

 Does naybody know?
 
 Maybe because the maintainer of the package (Robert Leslie [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED])
 needs some time to create the new packages... bind is only a few days out
 right now...
 
 I was wondering about the jump from 4.9.5 to 8.1?  A few versions missing
 in there.

I read somewhere that this was to make the major version sync w/
sendmail, since `isc.org' is also maintaining sendmail now.

- Hari
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Re: SU Problems

1997-06-02 Thread Paul McDermott
Hi Roberto, I did use su. I can't run any x programs as su, only as user 
paul.  Any other ideas.


On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Roberto Magana wrote:

 Use su -
 
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vim in a xterm, del key doesn't work.

1997-06-02 Thread Christopher Ray Martin

I'm running a 99% Debian 1.3 system. Using vim in an xterm window, the del
key doesn't work (it just beeps). However using vim on a console tty, the
del key works as expected.

How can I get the del key to work using an xterm??

I have vim 4.6-1 installed.

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Re: SU Problems

1997-06-02 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Paul McDermott wrote:
 
 Hi folks, I just installed X version 3.2 on my system this past few
 weeks.  I am having problems do things as su. ie for the first error
 message is one that I receive whenever I try to run an X program as su.
 This error message is when I was trying to use xclock.  I have check
 xclocks permissions, ownership both seem to be in order. Ownership is
 root.root and the Permissions are 755.  This error happens when I try to
 run all x programs.
 
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 open display failed
 InitXWindows failed, exiting
 
 This error is when I try to run emacs as su.
 
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0.
 Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
 Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
 connections from your machine.
 
 I cam run things as user paul and if I login as root.  If you have any
 suggestions or need any more information please email me.
 Paul
 

If you log in as paul and then su to root, then after you su type

export XAUTHORITY=~paul/.Xauthority

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Re: SU Problems

1997-06-02 Thread M BAILEY
Before you SU to root type 'xhost +' this will disable X windows access 
control. Remember X windows is a network program and has to authorize 
every user before it will let you run an application.

By the way xhost + is also not the most secure way of handling this 
problem. Do a  'man xhost' and check out the specific params.
--Matt

PS. Time to get back into the swing of Linux use and not development 
again. After porting linux to run on an VIC20 for a university project I 
am sick of assembly (had to port GCC over as well :)

PPS. anyone want a VIC20 port of linux before I delete the 500megs of 
files from my hard drive?


On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Paul McDermott wrote:

 Hi Roberto, I did use su. I can't run any x programs as su, only as user 
 paul.  Any other ideas.
 
 
 On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Roberto Magana wrote:
 
  Use su -
  
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Re: Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread Kevin Traas
  To all the kind folks
  who've spent many long nights making Debian Linux a quality
  product, thank you.

I *must* agree.  A year ago, I gave up trying to get a SCO Unix box
(3.2v4.2) running all the Internet services I wanted.  Every single service
I wanted to get running was a complete PITA  

First, it was get and build GCC.  Then it was GZIP.  Then it was a decent
mail system.  Then it was News.  Then it was mailing lists.  Then it was
FTP.  Then it was... well, you get the picture.  Each of these packages
were a complete PITA to build on SCO.  Quite often support for SCO in the
source was lacking and I'd have to manually make changes just get things
to build.  It often took weeks to get a new service running.

Then came Debian GNU/Linux, dselect, and the .deb binary packages.  Just a
few minutes and Bada-Boom!!!  There's the new mail client, text editor,
daemon, or whatever was needed.  The dselect/dpkg installation method is
awesome!

Kudos to all Debian developers, testers, users, and GNU!

Thanks so much for a great product.

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1.2 to 1.3 Upgrade - was Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread Kevin Traas
 I'm extremely happy with the way Debian 1.3, it's a huge improvement
 over 1.2.  I'm sure you'll like it too.  :-)

Is there a list of improvements / changes between 1.2.x and 1.3
available?

Later,

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DDD problems

1997-06-02 Thread Matthew Tebbens
Maybe someone can help me with a few problems I'm having with DDD.

During start-up I get a whole bunch of the following:
-
Warning: 
Name: gdb_w
Class: XmText
FontTextWidth: no source


At certian times (or mouse clicks) in the program, I get the following:
---
Error: PANIC: no geometry_manager procedure specified for this widget


Thanks, 
Matthew


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Re: Apache server-side includes questions

1997-06-02 Thread Tom Lees
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Pete Templin wrote:

  As you were doing it. Or, use a CGI, and point it at a target frame :)
  
  PS. the perl script you had there can be done without using perl:
  !--#include blah -- instead. Blah can !--#echo var=LAST_MODIFIED --.
^^^
Ooops, that should be !--#include virtual=blah --. Does that work?
Or file=blah (not sure if virtual is a 1.2 extension). Otherwise, try
adding XBitHack Full to .htaccess, and chmod +x the .html files.

  Much quicker, less resource-hungry.
 
 It's still showing the #includes as comments.  Any ideas?
 
 http://templinux.bucknell.edu/~templin  

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Re: 1.2 to 1.3 Upgrade - was Debian quality

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick

  I'm extremely happy with the way Debian 1.3, it's a huge improvement
  over 1.2.  I'm sure you'll like it too.  :-)
 
 Is there a list of improvements / changes between 1.2.x and 1.3
 available?

I'm not really aware of a list.  Each package gets updated on an individual
basis, so you could look at the changelog for each package.

There were a lot of small, annoying bugs with 1.2.x when first installing
it - they seem to be fixed in 1.3.

When the announcement comes out, I'm sure it will mention a few of the
improved packages.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: Apache server-side includes questions

1997-06-02 Thread Pete Templin

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Tom Lees wrote:

 Ooops, that should be !--#include virtual=blah --. Does that work?
 Or file=blah (not sure if virtual is a 1.2 extension). Otherwise, try
 adding XBitHack Full to .htaccess, and chmod +x the .html files.
 
  It's still showing the #includes as comments.  Any ideas?
  
  http://templinux.bucknell.edu/~templin  

If I view the document source, the !--stuff-- shows up in italics, as if
it's still a comment (and hasn't been parsed).

If I add the XBitHack Full to my .htaccess, I get the following error in
my error log:

[Mon Jun  2 15:39:40 1997] access to /home/templin/public_html/.htaccess
failed for templinux.bucknell.edu, reason: Invalid command XBitHack

If it's of any benefit, it's the apache from frozen.

tcsh dpkg -s apache
Package: apache
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: web
Installed-Size: 781
Maintainer: Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 1.1.3-6


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Re: SU Problems

1997-06-02 Thread Paul McDermott
thanks jens, is there a way so i don't have to type the command all the time?
thanks again.
Paul


On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 Paul McDermott wrote:
  
  Hi folks, I just installed X version 3.2 on my system this past few
  weeks.  I am having problems do things as su. ie for the first error
  message is one that I receive whenever I try to run an X program as su.
  This error message is when I was trying to use xclock.  I have check
  xclocks permissions, ownership both seem to be in order. Ownership is
  root.root and the Permissions are 755.  This error happens when I try to
  run all x programs.
  
  Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
  Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
  open display failed
  InitXWindows failed, exiting
  
  This error is when I try to run emacs as su.
  
  Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
  Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
  emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0.
  Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
  Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
  connections from your machine.
  
  I cam run things as user paul and if I login as root.  If you have any
  suggestions or need any more information please email me.
  Paul
  
 
 If you log in as paul and then su to root, then after you su type
 
 export XAUTHORITY=~paul/.Xauthority
 
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DSELECT question

1997-06-02 Thread Curt Howland
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Good morning,

I've installed from frozen, and run dselect a couple of times
to snag interesting or oops, needed that packages since. I've
found that each time, dselect selects for download many, many 
packages that are of the same version as presently installed.

Usually, these are the big ones as well. No wonder the FTP site
is so often busy.

Question time: Is there any trouble I can get into by changing
whole sections with =? Is this the keystroke, as it seems to
be, to don't download it, leave it alone?

It seems that dselect, while correctly detecting the version
locally and remotely, isn't making any distinction between what
is already loaded and what is on the FTP site. This would seem
to me to be a usefull and basic distinction, a reason for the
creation of the dselect program and package system in the first
place.

What am I missing?

Curt-


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diald problem

1997-06-02 Thread Giuseppe Vacanti

Howdy,

On my system at fairly regular intervals (every couple of days) diald
dies without reason.

When that happens the routing table shows no sign of sl0. The pid file
is left in place (which suggests that diald didn't exit cleanly). No
traces are left in any of the logs.

Has anybody else experienced something like this?

Thanks,

Giuseppe


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Re: ISP connect doc.

1997-06-02 Thread Kevin Traas
   Would someone please suggest which doc to read for ISP connection
   for Debian/Linux?  Thanks!

http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.html
 
   What are the software packages required for ISP connection setup?

netstd and ppp for starters.  Others might include diald, ircii, lynx,
Netscape, a news reader, a mail client, etc. etc. etc. (Check out
everything in the mail, net, and news sections of the distribution.)

Later,

Kevin Traas
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Re: DSELECT question

1997-06-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
 
 Good morning,
 
 I've installed from frozen, and run dselect a couple of times
 to snag interesting or oops, needed that packages since. I've
 found that each time, dselect selects for download many, many 
 packages that are of the same version as presently installed.

This is the first I have heard of this. (Not being argumentative at all
here) Thanks for the report.
 
 Usually, these are the big ones as well. No wonder the FTP site
 is so often busy.
 
 Question time: Is there any trouble I can get into by changing
 whole sections with =? Is this the keystroke, as it seems to
 be, to don't download it, leave it alone?
 
The =, for those not familiar with dselect, is the symbol displayed
under status for the packages that are on Hold. The key that does this
is H. I have always been disapointed by the fact that this key (and for
the most part all the other functionality) does not work on the heading
All Packages as this would be very helpful.
To cut a long story short, yes, putting packages on hold is the best way
to get dselect to take no action. I do this all the time when I want just
a few of the packages to be installed and don't want to upgrade anything
that I don't have to. Dselect's dependency checking is usually adequated
to the task, so you get told what additional packages may be needed for
the ones you want to install and function properly

 It seems that dselect, while correctly detecting the version
 locally and remotely, isn't making any distinction between what
 is already loaded and what is on the FTP site. This would seem
 to me to be a usefull and basic distinction, a reason for the
 creation of the dselect program and package system in the first
 place.

I think that this may be an artifact of the ftp method.

 
 What am I missing?

The tools that will come out of the Deity development project ;-)

'Till then you seem to have a firm grasp on the problem.

Luck,

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Is the libXt security hole fixed in Debian 1.3?

1997-06-02 Thread Farzad FARID
 Is the XFree86 3.2 provided with the soon to be released Debian 1.3 free
from the recently announced security hole?

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Netscape problem

1997-06-02 Thread David B. Teague
Hi

I'm running a 486-dx2/66, 16 MB RAM, VL Bus, 2840 SCSI disks, with
Debian 1.1

I had a problem getting X up. I finally edited /etc/X11/XF86Config
directly, following an example I found posted. With X runnign, I down
loaded netscape,

netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz, 

from their ftp site, and ran dpkg on it. I needed to update some
libraries, 

ldso_1.8.5-1.deb
libc5-dev

then netscape configured (to the script's satisfaction, anyhow.)

All of which brings me to my question: Once X and Netscape were up, I
could run netscape, only I got the error message listed here. 

Would someone please tell me WHY I get this, and more to the point,
what I can do to make Netscape work? What does it mean, cannot allocate
colormap entry for defaulot background? 

-- David


Warning: 
Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background

Warning: Cannot convert string 
-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
-*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct
Warning: 
Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background

Warning: Cannot convert string 
-*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
-*-helvetica-medium-o-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to type FontStruct
Bus error



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sendmail question - virtusertable

1997-06-02 Thread pete
I have the following setup in sendmail.mc, yet, sendmail is ignoring
/etc/virtusertable file.  I am using tabs, not spaces in
/etc/virtusertable, and have made sure to restart sendmail to register
changes.  (used the sendmailconfig program to convert the .mc to .cf). 
Any pointers would be much appreciated.  :) 

sendmail.mc:
divert(0)
VERSIONID(`@(#)sendmail.mc  8.7 (Linux) 3/5/96')
OSTYPE(debian)dnl
FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl
FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl
FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl
FEATURE(redirect)dnl
FEATURE(nouucp)dnl
FEATURE(virtusertable)dnl
MAILER(local)dnl
MAILER(smtp)dnl
Cwwebexpress.com netlisting.com
MASQUERADE_AS(webexpress.com)dnl

virtusertable:
@netlisting.com ninjaz


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Re: sparc port

1997-06-02 Thread Eric Delaunay
stephen farrell wrote:
 
 What's the status on the sparc port of debian?  Is there a
 mostly-stable-but-not-yet-released version? I'd hate to have to go
 back to redhat for that...
 
 --sf

Not really :-(
Only few packages are available, most of them to help in port (developers
packages like libc-dev, make, gcc, ...).
Especially there is no X support at all.  It's far from a release.
Notice that you can install it: there is netboot support to bootstrap your
system.
If you have time to spent on the port you can reach our mailing list:
  debian-sparc@lists.debian.org

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Re: DSELECT question

1997-06-02 Thread Bob Nielsen
I don't think you have something set up quite right (or possibly you are
not correctly interpreting what you see.)

Those packages which are already installed will show up in the uptodate
categories with the mark ***. Those which you do not have installed
show up as available  with the mark __ if never installed or ___ if
installed but subsequently purged.  I can't recall the marking for
packages which are installed but for which a newer version is available,
since I have updated everything where that applied, but it was obvious
from the dselect display.

When you select a package for installation, it will show --*

To look at a verbose listing in dselect, hit the 'v' key.

When you go to the 'install' action of dselect, you will be given a
listing of those files which it wants to get.

It is working as expected for me, at least.

Bob 

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
 
 Good morning,
 
 I've installed from frozen, and run dselect a couple of times
 to snag interesting or oops, needed that packages since. I've
 found that each time, dselect selects for download many, many 
 packages that are of the same version as presently installed.
 
 Usually, these are the big ones as well. No wonder the FTP site
 is so often busy.
 
 Question time: Is there any trouble I can get into by changing
 whole sections with =? Is this the keystroke, as it seems to
 be, to don't download it, leave it alone?
 
 It seems that dselect, while correctly detecting the version
 locally and remotely, isn't making any distinction between what
 is already loaded and what is on the FTP site. This would seem
 to me to be a usefull and basic distinction, a reason for the
 creation of the dselect program and package system in the first
 place.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Curt-
 
 
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 Version: 2.6.2
 
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 xg4Ys3KlVB3J4fNAN2tOiJpE0gK8aDv7oTY9WXbOy+REtsfjjwQXnQ==
 =YK4i
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Re: sendmail question - virtusertable

1997-06-02 Thread Mark Boyns
2 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have the following setup in sendmail.mc, yet, sendmail is ignoring
 /etc/virtusertable file.  I am using tabs, not spaces in
 /etc/virtusertable, and have made sure to restart sendmail to register
 changes.  (used the sendmailconfig program to convert the .mc to .cf). 
 Any pointers would be much appreciated.  :) 
 
 sendmail.mc:
 divert(0)
 VERSIONID(`@(#)sendmail.mc  8.7 (Linux) 3/5/96')
 OSTYPE(debian)dnl
 FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl
 FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl
 FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl
 FEATURE(redirect)dnl
 FEATURE(nouucp)dnl
 FEATURE(virtusertable)dnl
 MAILER(local)dnl
 MAILER(smtp)dnl
 Cwwebexpress.com netlisting.com
 MASQUERADE_AS(webexpress.com)dnl
 
 virtusertable:
 @netlisting.com   ninjaz

I think virtusertable needs to be a DB file.  Use makemap to
convert your text virtusertable to virtusertable.db:

makemap -v hash virtusertable  virtusertable

Also, make sure you have something like this in your
sendmail.cf:

virtuser hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable


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Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry

1997-06-02 Thread Bruce Perens
A Debian 1.3 pre-release user at Pixar gets this complaint when running
Netscape. I think he gets the same complaint when running remote stuff
with Debian doing the display. This is a Diamond Stealth 3D 2000, I think.

 Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for #C0C0C0
 Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry

1997-06-02 Thread Kevin Hilman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes:

 
  Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for #C0C0C0
  Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background
 

Probably running on an 8-bit display.  Netscape trys to
get lots of colors and quickly runs out with only 8-bit display.

Try

netscape -install

to make Netscape use a private colormap or put

Netscape.*installColormap:  Yes

in his/her ~/.Xdefaults.


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Re: ISP connect doc.

1997-06-02 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On  2 Jun, Kevin Traas wrote:
   Would someone please suggest which doc to read for ISP connection
   for Debian/Linux?  Thanks!
 
 http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.html
  
   What are the software packages required for ISP connection setup?
 
 netstd and ppp for starters.  Others might include diald, ircii, lynx,
 Netscape, a news reader, a mail client, etc. etc. etc. (Check out
 everything in the mail, net, and news sections of the distribution.)
 
If you use X, you may also want to give xisp.deb a try. But please read
the howtos and man pppd as well, so you can deal with errors that might
appear. And to learn what xisp is actually behind its gui.

Ciao,
Martin



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Re: DSELECT question

1997-06-02 Thread Curt Howland

I don't disagree with you at all. However, case in point:

*** Perl 5.x shows up in the dselect list.

Perl 5.xxx is then downloaded and installed. Again.

What might I have misconfigured?

Curt-

In reply to 2 Jun message from Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I don't think you have something set up quite right (or possibly you are not
correctly interpreting what you see.)

Those packages which are already installed will show up in the uptodate 
categories with the mark ***. Those which you do not have installed show up as
available  with the mark __ if never installed or ___ if installed but
subsequently purged.  I can't recall the marking for packages which are 
installed
but for which a newer version is available, since I have updated everything 
where
that applied, but it was obvious from the dselect display.

When you select a package for installation, it will show --* 

To look at a verbose listing in dselect, hit the 'v' key. 

When you go to the 'install' action of dselect, you will be given a listing of
those files which it wants to get.

It is working as expected for me, at least.

Bob 

On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
 
 Good morning,
 
 I've installed from frozen, and run dselect a couple of times
 to snag interesting or oops, needed that packages since. I've
 found that each time, dselect selects for download many, many 
 packages that are of the same version as presently installed.
 
 Usually, these are the big ones as well. No wonder the FTP site
 is so often busy.
 
 Question time: Is there any trouble I can get into by changing
 whole sections with =? Is this the keystroke, as it seems to
 be, to don't download it, leave it alone?
 
 It seems that dselect, while correctly detecting the version
 locally and remotely, isn't making any distinction between what
 is already loaded and what is on the FTP site. This would seem
 to me to be a usefull and basic distinction, a reason for the
 creation of the dselect program and package system in the first
 place.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Curt-
 
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: 2.6.2
 
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 xg4Ys3KlVB3J4fNAN2tOiJpE0gK8aDv7oTY9WXbOy+REtsfjjwQXnQ==
 =YK4i
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Re: DSELECT question

1997-06-02 Thread Alexander Stavitsky
On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Good morning,
 
 I've installed from frozen, and run dselect a couple of times
 to snag interesting or oops, needed that packages since. I've
 found that each time, dselect selects for download many, many 
 packages that are of the same version as presently installed.
 

Dselect in that respect works fine for me. I am however upset with dselect
when using cdrom/mounted access methods. In those cases dselect does want
to see all of the packages mentioned in Packages file present. Even those
that you've chosen not to install. It also ignored symlinks across
filesystems. I had a slightly broken CD-ROM distribution and the only way
around was to copy the whole distribution onto the hard drive. Symlinks
from hd to cdrom were ignored and dselect wouldn't work if some package is
missing. Perhaps this is already fixed, I've used stable(1.4.0.7)dpkg
back then.

--stuff deleted--
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Curt-
 
 
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