Re: I can lock up machine. Why?

1997-10-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

Could this be a bug in fte?

manoj
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Re: hi

1997-10-15 Thread Matt Thompson
ok, i got libc5_5.4.33-7.deb from hamm, and here's what i got:

mattyt# dpkg -i libc5_5.4.33-7.deb
dpkg: regarding libc5_5.4.33-7.deb containing libc5:
 libc5 conflicts with libc5-dev
  libc5-dev (version 5.4.33-6) is installed.
dpkg: error processing libc5_5.4.33-7.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing libc5
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libc5_5.4.33-7.deb

...should i install libc6-dev 2.0.5c-0.1 first?

thanks,
matty

Matt Thompson 
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707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420
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On 14 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Matt == Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Matt okay, i'm back in business, and per the HOWTO, i installed
 Matt ldso_1.9.5-1 without incident. the HOWTO said that next
 Matt would be libc6_2.0.4-1, but that, ...any later version
 Matt should also be acceptable, so I attempted:
 
 *snip*
 
 Matt is there a way to replace libc5 while installing libc6? i
 Matt read dpkg --help, but didn't see anything there.  it doesn't
 Matt mention anything special in the HOWTO, either.  i'll read
 Matt 'info dpkg' in the meantime...
 
 Just upgrade your libc5 to the newest in hamm before you upgrade to
 libc6. 
 
 This should probably be mentioned in the HOWTO :)
   
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Re: I can lock up machine. Why?

1997-10-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey.
 
 I've been doing lots of programming lately and have noticed (how could I
 not) that I am reliably able to cause my machine to lockup.
 
 I'm running 1.3.1, and have reinstalled from CD twice, once going so far
 as to wipe the entire boot partition first.
 
 This is how I do it:
 
 open a document in xfte that is several pages long.
 Quickly scroll through it using the page up and page down keys.
 In as little time as a minute I'm able to lock the machine solid --
 no disk access, nothing.  
 
 Note that I told the Xserver to disable XAA acceleration and am now stable
 but slow.
 
 I'm running a Cyrix P120+, Tyan Titan III, and Trident 9680 PCI with
 2 Megs of RAM on the card, 24 in the machine.
 
 Also note that this machine has been perfectly stable for well over a year,
 since Debian 1.2, in fact.
 
This sound like it could be caused by can't get free page problems with
the delivered 1.3 kernels. 2.0.29 is better than 2.0.30, but they can both
be locked by fast allocation of buffers. 

I don't think that 2.0.27 had this problem, so you might try downgrading
the kernel.

Luck,

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Question about new 'g' packages in unstable

1997-10-15 Thread Adam Shand
Hi.

I'm trying to install the new version of Scotty because I want tkined but
it requires tk8.0 which depends on one of the new 'g' packages which seem
to be appearing in unstable... in this case xlib6g.  

Now I just tried to install these new xlib6g packages and hosed my system
because xlib6g conflicts with xlib6 and I couldn't remove xlib6 because
lots and lots depended on it (so stupidly I tried to do a --force on
xlib6g and then remove xlib6 which was not a happy thing because lots of 
things depended on elf-x11r6lib which xlib6 provided but xlib6g doesn't).

In short... does anyone have a copy of tk8.0 before the xlib6g dependency
that they could mail me?

The slightly longer question is: 'What's the story with the new 'g'
packages and how do I safely swap over.

Thanks,

Adam.

PS. I've been off the list for a couple weeks as I moved... sorry if this
has been discussed... could replies be CC'd to me as I have only just
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Re: staroffice and libc

1997-10-15 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: hi everyone I'm trying to use the latest debianized staroffice package but
: the dependancies show that I need libc when i do a dpkg -l libc none
: Depends: libc (= 5.4.4-0) where do i find this package?
: Thanks.  If there is more info that you need please ask.

Try forcing the install (if you have libc5 = 5.4.4-0 installed):

dpkg --force-depends -i staroffice.deb

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Re: hi

1997-10-15 Thread David Puryear

On 14-Oct-97 Matt Thompson wrote:
  ok, i got libc5_5.4.33-7.deb from hamm, and here's what i got:
  
  mattyt# dpkg -i libc5_5.4.33-7.deb
  dpkg: regarding libc5_5.4.33-7.deb containing libc5:
   libc5 conflicts with libc5-dev
libc5-dev (version 5.4.33-6) is installed.
  dpkg: error processing libc5_5.4.33-7.deb (--install):
   conflicting packages - not installing libc5
  Errors were encountered while processing:
   libc5_5.4.33-7.deb

You can remove libc5-dev, and also, you shouldn't need to install any *-dev
unless you are going to compile you own programs. The gimp works without any
*-dev and I would assume must debian packages are same.

Later,
David
  
  ...should i install libc6-dev 2.0.5c-0.1 first?
  
  thanks,
  matty
  
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  On 14 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Matt == Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  Matt okay, i'm back in business, and per the HOWTO, i installed
  Matt ldso_1.9.5-1 without incident. the HOWTO said that next
  Matt would be libc6_2.0.4-1, but that, ...any later version
  Matt should also be acceptable, so I attempted:
  
  *snip*
  
  Matt is there a way to replace libc5 while installing libc6? i
  Matt read dpkg --help, but didn't see anything there.  it doesn't
  Matt mention anything special in the HOWTO, either.  i'll read
  Matt 'info dpkg' in the meantime...
  
  Just upgrade your libc5 to the newest in hamm before you upgrade to
  libc6. 
  
  This should probably be mentioned in the HOWTO :)
   
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Re: hi

1997-10-15 Thread Matt Thompson
 On 14-Oct-97 Matt Thompson wrote:
   ok, i got libc5_5.4.33-7.deb from hamm, and here's what i got:
   
   mattyt# dpkg -i libc5_5.4.33-7.deb
   dpkg: regarding libc5_5.4.33-7.deb containing libc5:
libc5 conflicts with libc5-dev
 libc5-dev (version 5.4.33-6) is installed.
   dpkg: error processing libc5_5.4.33-7.deb (--install):
conflicting packages - not installing libc5
   Errors were encountered while processing:
libc5_5.4.33-7.deb
 
 You can remove libc5-dev, and also, you shouldn't need to install any *-dev
 unless you are going to compile you own programs. The gimp works without any
 *-dev and I would assume must debian packages are same.
 
 Later,
 David
   
ok, i removed libc5-dev, which also removed wg15-locale, flex and gcc
(and several -dev packages, but i assume i won't be needing those since
i'm no hacker, unfortunately :) ). now, i know i want gcc if i ever want
to compile a new kernel, right? but do i need flex or wg15? if so, should
i get it from unstable? should i install the stable gcc from dselect, or
get the version from unstable and dpkg it?

thanks loads,
matty


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Re: Fortune

1997-10-15 Thread Jameson Burt
I like to display fortune or the dhammapada in my x-window at login, 
so I have in ~/.xsession
xmessage -center `dp`  
In fact, I like it so much that I generate a new dhammapada every 10 minutes 
on an X-window in the fourth quadrant:
xterm -T dhammapada   -geometry +1024+1118-e   watch -n 600 dp  
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Samba/Win95 \\server\share%user doesn't work

1997-10-15 Thread Paul Miller
I can't get the \\server\share%user syntex to work..  It'll just log on as
the public user w/o asking for a password.  Anyone have this problem?

-Paul


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Re: staroffice and libc

1997-10-15 Thread Lawrence
I had installed stafoffice without using --force and the installation is
ok.

Eloy A. Paris wrote:
 
 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 : hi everyone I'm trying to use the latest debianized staroffice package but
 : the dependancies show that I need libc when i do a dpkg -l libc none
 : Depends: libc (= 5.4.4-0) where do i find this package?
 : Thanks.  If there is more info that you need please ask.
 
 Try forcing the install (if you have libc5 = 5.4.4-0 installed):
 
 dpkg --force-depends -i staroffice.deb
 
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Re: SUID shells...aaarrgghh

1997-10-15 Thread Joey Hess
Garry Myers wrote:
 so, logging into console as root
 
 $ cp /bin/bash /bin/somefile
 
 $ ls -l /bin/somefile
 - -rwxr-x--- 1 root root 318612 Oct 14 22:44 /bin/somefile
 
 $ chmod a+xs /bin/somefile
 - -rwsr-s--x 1 root root 318612 Oct 14 22:44 /bin/somefile
 
 Presumably a hacker (or cracker to be precise) would chgrp to root if root
 was gained by some exploit.  Exiting and logging in as test_user (created
 for the purpose), when I execute /bin/somefile and do whoami and id,
 test_user is still controlling the shell with uid guid etc set to
 test_user.  I've tried a number of variations on the above but to no
 avail.  I *hate* the idea of not knowing how to do something that some
 IRC #hack juvenile can!  I know I'm missing something awfully obvious
 here or else I've got something new to crow about regarding Debian to my
 linux-challenged (read RedHat and Slackware :) ) friends...

You're just running into some simple protection that is designed to trip up
said pimply-faced crackers: bash gives up any suid permissions when it
starts up.

If you try the same thing with some other shell that doesn't have this
protection, it will probably work as you would expect.

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How secure is netcat?

1997-10-15 Thread George Bonser
If I wanted to use tcp wrappers to do something like:

in.smtpd:   .cyberpromo.com:twist netcat %a 25

would it represent a great security hazard?


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RE: How secure is netcat?

1997-10-15 Thread George Bonser

I ment, of course, nc



On 15-Oct-97 George Bonser wrote:
If I wanted to use tcp wrappers to do something like:

in.smtpd:   .cyberpromo.com:twist netcat %a 25

would it represent a great security hazard?


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GRASS and libcurses.so.1

1997-10-15 Thread adavis
Perhaps this is offtopic.  Perhaps not.  I am trying to get GRASS running on
a debian system.  My problem isn't unique, but I want to find out if anyone
running debian has solved it.

The problem I am getting with existing precompiled binaries, is failure to
load the curses library libcurses.so.1.  A solution has been proposed, of
FTPing the libcurses.so.1 file on the GRASS ftp site and installing it.  

I would like to ask whether this would cause any problem, or what other
solutions have been found, short of recompiling.  

(I would like to compile grass, but my system is, as usually the case when
trying to keep up to date with debian, in limbo.  This brings up another
question---is it safe to begin compiling with libc6?  When will it be?  Does
the dual library compilation route work?  Ahhh  sh  ).

Alan Davis

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dselect suggestion

1997-10-15 Thread Shaleh
I recently went into dselect using ftp mode ( I loaned someone my cd ;-)
and lo an behold r4 was out.  Now my simple snatch and grab of xxgdb
became several hours of downloading rather than convince dselect not to
upgrade me.  If I was on a dedicated line I would not care, but I was at
home w/ my 28.8.  Could there be an option in dselect to upgrade to
next revision that handles new packages and is solely responsible for
this.  That way if I do not want to upgrade ( or do not have the time )
I do not have to.


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YASQ (yet another sendmail question), more detailed

1997-10-15 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
On 14 Oct 1997, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I doubt it's sendmail problem (I mean, nothing that a recompile will
 solve). It looks like a configuration problem.
 
 Can you send more information to the list? Your hosts names,
 your sendmail.mc file, where are you trying to send mail to, etc.
 
 See ya.
 
 E.-
 

Here we go:
---
/etc/host.conf
 order hosts,bind
 multi on

/etc/hosts
 127.0.0.1  localhost
 10.0.0.5   p5.jrpriv.dep5  www.jrpriv.de   www
 10.0.0.4   p4.jrpriv.dep4

/etc/mailname
 p5.jrpriv.de

/etc/resolv.conf
 search jrpriv.de

/etc/sendmail.mc
 divert(-1)
 # All comment lines with '#' deleted.
 divert(0)
 VERSIONID(`@(#)sendmail.mc 8.7 (Linux) 3/5/96')
 OSTYPE(debian)dnl
 FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
 FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl
 FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl
 FEATURE(nouucp)dnl
 FEATURE(nodns)dnl
 FEATURE(local_procmail)dnl
 MAILER(local)dnl
 MAILER(smtp)dnl
 Cwp5.jrpriv.de
 MASQUERADE_AS(p5.jrpriv.de)dnl

/etc/aliases
(Only postmaster for root, I've the file not here at the moment)
---

Should I post other files as well?

The systems are similarly configured. I installed Debian 1.2 from scratch and
updated most packages (except tex) to 1.3 and the current unstable version.
I'm not absolutely sure, but I think, when I installed 1.2, mailing from one
host to the other worked. 
I have NOT installed bind and am not using named on either of the machines.

When I use 'mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]' from p5 (or vice versa) I get in the logs 
and from
mailq the error message:
Deferred: Name server: p4.jrpriv.de.: host name lookup failure
runq didn't help (of course).
I tried several things with /etc/host.conf and /etc/resolv.conf (thanks go to
Brandon Mitchell for some suggestions!), but none of them worked. I tried for
example to rename the files (in order to make them unavailable), to remove the
bind statement from host.conf, to add a 'domain' line in resolv.conf (but this
file shouldn't be used anyway, should it), to reverse the order of the lines
in the files and more I can't think of now.
BTW, if I mail on p5 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] it works fine, 
also with the
FQDN (p5.jrpriv.de). But when I try to mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which is p5's 
IP)
I get
host map: lookup (10.0.0.5): deferred
in the logs. Isn't mailing to IP's supposed to work as well? What's wrong
here?

I don't need the mailing system under all circumstances, but it's nice to leave
some messages to remember on the other computer and besides it must be possible,
somehow (without installing a nameserver - which I definitely don't want to,
because I don't need it, so it would be a waste of memory).

Thank you for your time and help,

  Ulf

P.S.: Quoting my original message:

 : Hi,
 
 :  I've a small intranet running with debian. In fact, there are only two
 :  machines which are not connected to the internet.
 :  I don't use a name server on either of the machines, it's not needed.
 :  Addresses are read from /etc/hosts.
 
 :  I use the latest sendmail package but can't send mail from one computer to
 :  the other. I get something like 'Deferred: p4.: Name server : hostname 
 lookup
 :  failure. Well, I don't understand what happens. I configured sendmail to 
 not
 :  use any name server (FEATURE(nodns)), so there shouldn't be the cause.
 :  Address canonification works fine when I turn it on in sendmail.mc, so
 :  there's no trouble with /etc/hosts (ping,telnet,ftp and samba are ok as 
 well)
 
 :  Is this a problem with the current sendmail package? I remember correctly, 
 when
 :  I used another distribution a year ago, I solved this by recompiling 
 sendmail.
 
 :  Any ideas what could be wrong or what I could try? Thanks,
 
 :   Ulf.

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Re: GIMP

1997-10-15 Thread Jens Kerle
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:

 On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
 
  hello, all,
  
  I tried to install the GIMP and xtar, and when trying to run both, I get
  the same error message:
  
  xtar: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'   ...and:
  gimp: can't load library 'libXm.so.2'
  
 Searching the Contents file for libXm showed me that the shared library
 is in libs/lesstif. Install the package and things should work. You should
 also file bug reports against the packages that do not declare it in their
 dependencies.

Isn'Ät libXm the Motif library ? So install the statically linked gimp
version.

 
 Luck,
 
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Re: Question about new 'g' packages in unstable

1997-10-15 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann

Hello!

You have to *upgrade* xlib6 before installing xlib6g (which conflicts only
to older versions of xlib6. I hope you know that you are going to use the
hamm system, which is somewhat unstable (because of the change from libc5
to libc6. xlib6 is libc5, and xlib6g is libc6, and they are not
kompatible. PLease be shure to read the From xlib5 to xlib6 mini HOWTO
from Scott (?) Ellis (??) here on the list (check the archive or mail me,
and I will send you one).

Marcus

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Adam Shand wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I'm trying to install the new version of Scotty because I want tkined but
 it requires tk8.0 which depends on one of the new 'g' packages which seem
 to be appearing in unstable... in this case xlib6g.  
 
 Now I just tried to install these new xlib6g packages and hosed my system
 because xlib6g conflicts with xlib6 and I couldn't remove xlib6 because
 lots and lots depended on it (so stupidly I tried to do a --force on
 xlib6g and then remove xlib6 which was not a happy thing because lots of 
 things depended on elf-x11r6lib which xlib6 provided but xlib6g doesn't).
 
 In short... does anyone have a copy of tk8.0 before the xlib6g dependency
 that they could mail me?
 
 The slightly longer question is: 'What's the story with the new 'g'
 packages and how do I safely swap over.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Adam.
 
 PS. I've been off the list for a couple weeks as I moved... sorry if this
 has been discussed... could replies be CC'd to me as I have only just
 resubbed.
 
 
 
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dpkg-scanpackages

1997-10-15 Thread Mart Klanberg
hi,

I have downloaded all the packages based on which
I want to create the Packages file. Now I don't know how to
create the override file for dpkg-scanpackages ... help?

TIA,

Mart Klanberg,
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xterm color (*sigh*)

1997-10-15 Thread Matt Thompson
Hi, y'all,

Well, got bash 2.01-5 and gimp 0.99 installed and working.  I'm finding
out that I have to upgrade to the hamm versions of just about everything,
like fvwm2 and emacs.  That's ok.  'Been doing it all by dpkg instead of
dselect, now that I'm comfortable with that.

An old problem cropped up, tho.  I don't have colors in my xterms anymore.
My xsysinfo has colors just fine, but not my xterms.  I never had to
adjust anything with bo (except to edit /etc/profile with alias ls=ls
--color, which I've done).  Is there something else I need to do now that
I'm hamming it up as it were? (sorry for the lousy pun :) ).

thanks again for all the help,
matty

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Re: Linux as a mail and intranetserver

1997-10-15 Thread Dirk Kievith
Carey, thanks for your information:

At 21:28 14.10.1997 +1300, Carey wrote:

You could use qmail, exim, sendmail or smail, or maybe another, not
necessarily in that order.  I use and like qmail, despite the author's
attitude and the fact that there's no real Debian package.

Any idea where I can check out qmail?
 

 - which web- and proxyserver to use 

Apache is the most widely used web server and probably a good choice.

There's basically just one choice for web proxy: squid.  

This comes with the Debian release or is it to be found elsewhere?


If you put a POP server on your Linux machine, it looks like an ISP.
Qmail comes with one.  Use Pegasus Mail or whatever on the Windows
machine.

Downloaded Pegasus and installed. Have not gone into details but it should 
serve the purpose od multipule users for one machine. 

I like Gnus under XEmacs, and it's not to bad once it's set up.  VM
and (X)Emacs might be easier to start with.  I've heard good things
about Mutt.

Don't know about them yet. I will have to try them after I have installed 
Linux. 

 My immediate aim is to install that which will serve my purpose and
 save as much precious time on un- and re-installing different
 applications.

This is not actually too bad under Debian.  You can even get your old
configuration back.

That is one reason why I choose Debian, though it took some time to get it from 
the US. Here in India Slackware is available, but I had to give up a previous 
installation of a free distribution of it.


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Re: Linux as a mail and intranetserver

1997-10-15 Thread Dirk Kievith
At 13:28 14.10.1997 -0400, Matthew wrote:

  - Can one have a Linux server and W95 pc's as clients.
 
 Linux has brilliant Windoze support. i'd even go as far to say
 it's one of it's most valuable features when speaking of an 
 office intranet.
 

What exactly do you want Linux to serve, or do for the W95 clients ?

To give Internet and email facilities with a dial-up connection to the ISP. The 
W95 (or Linux) clients will be machines for *multiple* users to browse the Web 
and send and receive email.


  - As such, is there a way that multiple users could *download* their mail 
  from the local Linux server into W95? Which mail package to use for that?
 
 Internet Explorer 4.0 Active Desktop is quickly invading the `Dozer
 realm shudder, but there is Eudora, or the stalwart Navigator or
 others.

I would stick with Netscape for everything, the web, mail, news
Make things easier to install, configure...etc

Here again, does Netscape support multiple users with their own addresses on 
one or more machines?
 
  - Else should one leave Windoze for what it is and work only with Linux 
  packages. Which email-packages under Linux are most user-friendly?

snip

 i would also suggest dropping some more RAM in your box. it's
 not required on headless server, that is a server without a
 graphial interface, but is sure is a great feeling to be able 
 to fire up X Windows on your 486 and browse the net. ( i know
 because i have a former Windoze running Debian Linux 486 too! )
 

It depends what you want to doand how you want to do it.
I personally have totally switched to Linux

Would like to too. But this brings up the question to what extend Linux 
supports W95 or DOS packages. I mainly work with different CAD software and 
graphic and Web authoring packages, apart from the usual 'office' applications 
such as ClarisWorks etc. 
Would it be necessary to shift to the unix versions of these softwares?

Thanks,



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Re: Linux as a mail and intranetserver

1997-10-15 Thread Dirk Kievith
At 11:22 14.10.1997 -0500, Mark wrote:

smail is the Debian preference and would probably be suitable
for your intranet. on the other hand, sendmail is equally suitable
and is still easy to configure.

Is there a basic difference between smail and sendmail?

Linux has brilliant Windoze support. i'd even go as far to say
it's one of it's most valuable features when speaking of an 
office intranet.

You mean to say as a server or as an OS for W95 applications?

Internet Explorer 4.0 Active Desktop is quickly invading the `Dozer
realm shudder, but there is Eudora, or the stalwart Navigator or
others.

I agree with your shudder. IE4 appears to be only uninstalled by a 
reformatting of the HD. Eudora is very fine, but does not support multiple 
users on one machine. The same thing for Navigator, if I have understood 
rightly.

 Else should one leave Windoze for what it is and work only with Linux  
 packages. Which email-packages under Linux are most user-friendly?

again, Netscape Navigator is a common tool but there are many others.
just to see, browse http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapps.shtml.
there are some powerful and useful desktop managers now and more
exciting utilitites are introduced weekly. selection of an email
package is somewhat dependent upon the the needs and abilities
of the users, IMO.

i would also suggest dropping some more RAM in your box. it's
not required on headless server, that is a server without a
graphial interface, but is sure is a great feeling to be able 
to fire up X Windows on your 486 and browse the net. ( i know
because i have a former Windoze running Debian Linux 486 too! )

I will get a Pentium with 32 MB after i get the feel of Linux and use the 486 
as a client.


take the plunge!

I certainly will. Thanks a lot! 


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Re: man page for nsswitch.conf

1997-10-15 Thread Carey Evans
Dale Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What I _don't_ know is if I have my nsswitch.conf file set up
 correctly.  I can't seem to locate documentation for it, so it makes
 it hard to check :-)

Try in the Libc info pages under NSS Configuration File:
URL:info:libc#NSS%20Configuration%20File.

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Re: A quickie on telnet

1997-10-15 Thread Carey Evans
Mike Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Very simply, I'm trying to telnet to a site and get some data from a script.
 In HPUX, I would do this:
 
 echo Alinetobesent | telnet an.address.com 1234

telnet assumes it's connected to a terminal.  Try one of the utilities
designed with this in mind: netcat or socket.

Also, the socket support in Tcl or Perl is probably easier for
something quick.

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Re: xterm color (*sigh*)

1997-10-15 Thread Benjamin Ryzman
Matt Thompson wrote:

 Hi, y'all,
 
 Well, got bash 2.01-5 and gimp 0.99 installed and working.  I'm finding
 out that I have to upgrade to the hamm versions of just about everything,
 like fvwm2 and emacs.  That's ok.  'Been doing it all by dpkg instead of
 dselect, now that I'm comfortable with that.
 
 An old problem cropped up, tho.  I don't have colors in my xterms anymore.
 My xsysinfo has colors just fine, but not my xterms.  I never had to
 adjust anything with bo (except to edit /etc/profile with alias ls=ls
 --color, which I've done).  Is there something else I need to do now that
 I'm hamming it up as it were? (sorry for the lousy pun :) ).
 
 thanks again for all the help,
 matty
 
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Add a symbolic link to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 in /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib, that
should correct the problem.

deepthought% ls -l /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/
total 7
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   19 Oct  2 12:50 X11 -
../../X11R6/lib/X11
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 6464 Sep 29 12:18 libpaper.a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   39 Oct 14 13:04 libpaper.so -
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libpaper.so.1.0.3


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Re: SUID shells...aaarrgghh

1997-10-15 Thread joost witteveen
  so, logging into console as root
  
  $ cp /bin/bash /bin/somefile
  
  $ ls -l /bin/somefile
  - -rwxr-x--- 1 root root 318612 Oct 14 22:44 /bin/somefile
  
  $ chmod a+xs /bin/somefile
  - -rwsr-s--x 1 root root 318612 Oct 14 22:44 /bin/somefile

 You're just running into some simple protection that is designed to trip up
 said pimply-faced crackers: bash gives up any suid permissions when it
 starts up.


Note that this behaviour is new in bash-2.0 (1.4 didn't do it).
I find it annoying, though. I don't really see the great advantage
of this (its _very_ easy to get around for hackers), and it makes it
more difficult for me to become UID 7483 (no such user exists on my
system, but say it does on a friendly nfs server). 
I used to be able to just do 
  cp /bin/bash /tmp; chown 7483 /tmp/bash; chmod u+s /tmp/bash;/tmp/bash
but now I have to use a different shell (and then type bash, cause I cannot
use the other shell). Does anyone know of an easier way to become
UID=7483?

 If you try the same thing with some other shell that doesn't have this
 protection, it will probably work as you would expect.


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X-error in xdvi

1997-10-15 Thread Aluisio Neves Fagundes
Hi,

Recently, when I try to use xdvi,  I  get the following
error:

X Error of failed request:  BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap
parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  54 (X_FreePixmap)
  Resource id in failed request:  0x0
  Serial number of failed request:  458
  Current serial number in output stream:  472

Can anybody explain it ?
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Re: SUID shells...aaarrgghh

1997-10-15 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Joost Witteveen wrote:
 
 Note that this behaviour is new in bash-2.0 (1.4 didn't do it).
 I find it annoying, though. I don't really see the great advantage
 of this (its _very_ easy to get around for hackers), and it makes it
 more difficult for me to become UID 7483 (no such user exists on my
 system, but say it does on a friendly nfs server). 
 I used to be able to just do 
   cp /bin/bash /tmp; chown 7483 /tmp/bash; chmod u+s /tmp/bash;/tmp/bash
 but now I have to use a different shell (and then type bash, cause I cannot
 use the other shell). Does anyone know of an easier way to become
 UID=7483?

It might be a nice idea to create an option for su, so that you could
type
su --uid 7483
this option does not currently exist however.

You could look into the setuid command from the super package.  With
that command you can say
setuid 7483 command

You can use this command in shell script `uidshell' like this:

#!/bin/bash

while true; do
echo -n [uid = $1] `pwd` $ 
read a
b=`echo $a | cut -d' ' -f1`
if [ $b = cd ] || [ $b = exit ]; then
$a
else
setuid $1 $a
fi


If you run this script as super user typing `uidshell 7483', you more or
less get what you want.  The script could be much fancier of course, but
I think it beats the `copying bash' procedure for quick and dirty
operations.

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Re: SUID shells...aaarrgghh

1997-10-15 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
I wrote:
 
 You can use this command in shell script `uidshell' like this:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 
 while true; do
 echo -n [uid = $1] `pwd` $ 
 read a
 b=`echo $a | cut -d' ' -f1`
 if [ $b = cd ] || [ $b = exit ]; then
 $a
 else
 setuid $1 $a
 fi
  done
  
Forgot to copy that last line.

Eric

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Booting to SCSI

1997-10-15 Thread John Goerzen
Hey everyone!

Simple (hopefully) question.  I've got an IDE drive on an Tyan
motherboard with an Award BIOS.  I recently went out and bought a
Seagate Cheetah drive on a Symbios Logic (aka NCR) 53c875 host adapter
(an AWESOME combination, BTW g)  How do I make the system boot from
the SCSI drive instead of the IDE drive?

Yes, I know I can make the LILO in the MBR of the IDE drive point to
the Linux partition on the SCSI drive, and I have done this; but I
would perfer a better solution.


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Re: A quickie on telnet

1997-10-15 Thread John Goerzen
You might try the netcat program, it is specifically designed for this
and is (yipee!) a Debian package.

Mike Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Very simply, I'm trying to telnet to a site and get some data from a script.
 In HPUX, I would do this:
 
 echo Alinetobesent | telnet an.address.com 1234
 
 And it would happily telnet to the machine and echo the command, getting me
 the results I wanted. This doesn't seem to work under any of the shells I 
 could find installed in DEBIAN, or any odd variation I could come up with.
 
 Any ideas, or do I have to re-write in C using sockets (bleah)?
 
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Re: mutt 0.84-0

1997-10-15 Thread jdassen
On Tue, Oct 14, 1997 at 03:08:12PM -0500, Joe Stewart wrote:
 Received this from debian-changes list - where can it be downloaded from?

It is still in master's Incoming directory, presumably because it needs
manual processing. I've put a copy at
ftp://ftp.wi.leidenuniv.nl/pub/linux/devel-ray/ 

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Re: xlock

1997-10-15 Thread Paul Serice
 No, shadow was definitely on and functioning fine.  It is xlock
 itself who can't read the password despite being setgid shadow.
 
 The problem (which I finally figured out) is that the passwords are
 being served by nis.  I have nis setup to mangle passwords for non
 root users, and since xlock doesn't run as root, there is no way
 for it to read the password from nis.  (nis mangles the password by
 returning an x for the password field).
 
 The are only 2 ways of fixing the problem as far as I can tell.
 1) don't have nis mangle the passwords.
 2) set xlock to be setuid root.
 
 I've opted for the second solution.

There is another solution, I think.  I recently recompiled xlockmore
from the Debian sources to enable bomb mode and the xmlock
program (which is working well enough with lesstif).  When I was
reading the options, I ran across an option which lets their be an   
encrypted password in your home directory which xlock will check
against instead of trying to use shadow passwords etc.


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Re: dpkg-scanpackages

1997-10-15 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Mart Klanberg wrote:

 hi,
 
 I have downloaded all the packages based on which
 I want to create the Packages file. Now I don't know how to
 create the override file for dpkg-scanpackages ... help?
 
You will need to get the appropriate override file from the indices
directory on any Debian mirror. For 1.3 you want override.bo.gz and for
unstable override.hamm.gz. Unzip the appropriate file for the distribution
in question and you should be off and running.

Luck,

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Re: SUID shells...aaarrgghh

1997-10-15 Thread Brandon Mitchell
I wasn't going to send this trick to the list, but since there is a
demand:

int
main() {
setuid(0);
seteuid(0);
execl(/bin/sh, -sh, 0);
}

put this in filename.c, compile with gcc -o filename filename.c, set up
with chmod u+s filename, and run with ./filename.  Much smaller than a
copy of bash too:
-rwsr-xr-x   1 root root 4125 Oct 15 09:03 evil
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  103 Oct 15 09:03 evil.c
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   325548 Aug 15 12:56 /bin/bash

If you are trying to do this for convienence, don't, unless you know the
risk and way's of securing this from other users.  There are better ways
(su, sudo, etc).

HTH,
Brandon

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

   so, logging into console as root
   
   $ cp /bin/bash /bin/somefile
   
   $ ls -l /bin/somefile
   - -rwxr-x--- 1 root root 318612 Oct 14 22:44 /bin/somefile
   
   $ chmod a+xs /bin/somefile
   - -rwsr-s--x 1 root root 318612 Oct 14 22:44 /bin/somefile
 
  You're just running into some simple protection that is designed to trip up
  said pimply-faced crackers: bash gives up any suid permissions when it
  starts up.
 
 
 Note that this behaviour is new in bash-2.0 (1.4 didn't do it).
 I find it annoying, though. I don't really see the great advantage
 of this (its _very_ easy to get around for hackers), and it makes it
 more difficult for me to become UID 7483 (no such user exists on my
 system, but say it does on a friendly nfs server). 
 I used to be able to just do 
   cp /bin/bash /tmp; chown 7483 /tmp/bash; chmod u+s /tmp/bash;/tmp/bash
 but now I have to use a different shell (and then type bash, cause I cannot
 use the other shell). Does anyone know of an easier way to become
 UID=7483?
 
  If you try the same thing with some other shell that doesn't have this
  protection, it will probably work as you would expect.

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Re: Changing mouse drivers

1997-10-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Daniel Martin wrote:

 On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Richard A. Guay wrote:
 
  I now want to change to using a serial mouse.  What would be the
  steps (I do not want to reload the OS.)?
 
 Reload the OS?  That's windows-world thinking.  First, if you installed
 the gpm package, you'll need to run 'gpmconfig' as root, and tell gpm
 about your mouse.
 
 Then, assuming you have X, you'll have to re-run XF86Setup (stop X
 first by quitting your session and, if you have xdm running, doing:
 /etc/init.d/xdm stop
 ) Inside XF86Setup, say yes to use the old configuration and all you
 should have to do is pick your new mouse parameters.  (be certain to read
 through all of the dialog boxes that come up there, and test the new mouse
 setting by applying the changes)
 
 You shouldn't even need to reboot!

If you're using the -R option in gpmconfig with /dev/gpmdata in XF86Config,
you don't need to make any changes to X. It also seems to avoid the problems 
that some people have reported with their mice when switching between X and 
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Mounting File systems and shells

1997-10-15 Thread Curlen Middleton
Can anyone tell me how to mount my MSDOS and NTFS partitions...  And 
also, what's a good msdos like shell and how do i set it up?

Thanks a million...
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Debian Installation on IBM PS/2 Model 70

1997-10-15 Thread John Lines
I am attempting a Debian install on an IBM PS/2 Model 70, with the standard
1.3 (might be 1.3.1) rescue disk.

The kernel recognises the IBM ESDI disks, but I had to do

mknod /dev/eda b 36 0
mknod /dev/eda1 b 36 1
mknod /dev/eda2 b 36 2

Also dinstall does not recognise /dev/eda as a local drive, so I have used the
second window to do the fdisk and mke2fs

The next problem is that fdisk -l does not recognise eda disks, even though
fdisk /dev/eda does work.

(This is being reported in the order I found it, there may be a better order)

I got round this by doing (in the other window)

fdisk /dev/eda /tmp/fdisk
and then p, to list the partition table and q to quit.

I then edited the resulting /tmp/fdisk

With this I could enable swap, and eventually mount the root partition
(you have to keep recreating /tmp/fdisk because dinstall keeps overwriting it)

I have now reached the stage where it is installing the base set, so hopefully
everything will be OK from here.


John Lines


p.s. it would be useful to have some way (not nescessarily obvious) to
re-execute dinstall, for people who have edited it in the second window -
I havent really looked into exactly how it is started





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NFS/NIS support

1997-10-15 Thread Matthew Majka
Hi all,

I very new to Debian (maybe 24 hours) although I have quite
a bit of experience with SGI's and Sun's.  I have a few
questions I was hoping someone could answer for me.

1)  I've seen that NFS is supported on Debian, but I haven't
seen any mention of an automounter.  Is there one?
2)  If so, does it support NIS maps?
3)  The reason we set this machine up is to become familiar
with what Linux can give us.  Management wants to buy cheap
hardware (PeeCee), but we are unwilling to use the cheap
OS that they come with (Windoze).  I'm interested in window
manager suggestions.  The SGI's use a modified mwm from OSF,
so I know that's not a freebie.  Is there one that will give
user's the look and feel of a commercial workstation?

Thanx!

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help installing w/ AHA-2740A-Twin

1997-10-15 Thread Chip Christian
I'm having trouble installing Linux on a machine with an Adaptec 
AHA-2740A-Twin SCSI card.  I've got the machine (a 486) down to that, an 
NE2000, and an IDE card (for the floppy), with no disks.  Right now I'm trying 
Debian (its error messages seem more useful than the hanging I was getting 
with RedHat).  The bad part seems to start like this:

qlogicisp : PCI bios not present
eata_dma: No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver release still depends on 
it.
  Skipping scan for PCI HBAs.
aic7xxx: (aic7xxx_isr) Encountered spurious interrupt.
scsi0: BRKADRINIT error(0x1):
  Illegal Host Access
Kernel panic: scsi0: BRKADRINIT, error 0x1, seqaddr 0x0.


Any advice would be welcome...

-Chip


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Re: Linux as a mail and intranetserver

1997-10-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Dirk Kievith wrote:

 At 11:22 14.10.1997 -0500, Mark wrote:
 
 smail is the Debian preference and would probably be suitable
 for your intranet. on the other hand, sendmail is equally suitable
 and is still easy to configure.
 
 Is there a basic difference between smail and sendmail?

For most, smail is much easier to configure.  

 
 Linux has brilliant Windoze support. i'd even go as far to say
 it's one of it's most valuable features when speaking of an 
 office intranet.
 
 You mean to say as a server or as an OS for W95 applications?
 
 Internet Explorer 4.0 Active Desktop is quickly invading the `Dozer
 realm shudder, but there is Eudora, or the stalwart Navigator or
 others.
 
 I agree with your shudder. IE4 appears to be only uninstalled by a 
 reformatting of the HD. Eudora is very fine, but does not support 
 multiple users on one machine. The same thing for Navigator, if I have 
 understood rightly.

I'm not sure but I think there is a non-shareware version of Eudora which
supports multiple users.  Netscape 4.0 does. 

Bob


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Re: Question about new 'g' packages in unstable

1997-10-15 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You have to *upgrade* xlib6 before installing xlib6g (which conflicts only
 to older versions of xlib6. I hope you know that you are going to use the
 hamm system, which is somewhat unstable (because of the change from libc5
 to libc6. xlib6 is libc5, and xlib6g is libc6, and they are not
 kompatible. PLease be shure to read the From xlib5 to xlib6 mini HOWTO
 from Scott (?) Ellis (??) here on the list (check the archive or mail me,
 and I will send you one).

Yes you got my name right :)  And the latest updated version is at
http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/  (in about every format you could want)

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Debian Installation w/ AHA-2940

1997-10-15 Thread Dale Harrison
I tried installing 1.3 today on a PC. It didn't go too well. I've
installed Debian more times than I can recall, and have never had this
problem before. Mind you, i've never installed it on a machine like this
either.

AHA-2940, 1x 2.1gig drive, 1x Sony CD.

For a start, the autobooting CD part wouldn't. It'd recognise a bootable
CD, and even start the booting process.

It came up with the one line LDLINUX.SYS blerb, and then just sit there.

No problem, I'll do it another way. Running boot.bat from the CD solved
that problem. It started up the installation process, loaded the kernel,
went through the blerb and made it to the first box, the one where you
choose colour or mono.

The keyboard didn't work. Odd, coz it worked a minute or so ago.
Capslock/Numlock keys didn't toggle the led's. It was like it wasn't
plugged in.

Ok, no problem. I'll boot from floppy. Dug up 7 disks, wrote them, booted.
Same problem.

Some bastard stole my Debian 1.2 CD's, so as a temporary measure Slackware
96 has been installed. It's not a real good solution, but it'll do I
suppose.

As I said, i've installed Debian [via the autobooting CD and other
methods] numerous times, this is the first i've seen of this. I assume
it's a problem to do with the Adaptec board.

Is this a Debian problem, a 1.3.* problem or an Adaptec problem? More
importantly, any solutions?

Thanks,
D.


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Re: NFS/NIS support

1997-10-15 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Matthew Majka wrote:

 I very new to Debian (maybe 24 hours) although I have quite
 a bit of experience with SGI's and Sun's.  I have a few
 questions I was hoping someone could answer for me.

We'll sure try.  Always glad to have a new convert :)

 1)  I've seen that NFS is supported on Debian, but I haven't
 seen any mention of an automounter.  Is there one?

We actually have two :).  There is amd, which I believe supports Sun
automounter maps.  There is also autofs, although that requires you to be
running a late 2.1.x-series kernel and takes a different kind of map file.

 2)  If so, does it support NIS maps?

Yes, amd at least supports NIS maps

 3)  The reason we set this machine up is to become familiar
 with what Linux can give us.  Management wants to buy cheap
 hardware (PeeCee), but we are unwilling to use the cheap
 OS that they come with (Windoze).  I'm interested in window
 manager suggestions.  The SGI's use a modified mwm from OSF,
 so I know that's not a freebie.  Is there one that will give
 user's the look and feel of a commercial workstation?

There are over half a dozen different window managers packaged with
Debian, as well as the potential to buy CDE from RedHat for a totally
commercial feel.

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Re: xlock

1997-10-15 Thread Behan Webster
Paul Serice wrote:
 
 There is another solution, I think.  I recently recompiled xlockmore
 from the Debian sources to enable bomb mode and the xmlock
 program (which is working well enough with lesstif).  When I was
 reading the options, I ran across an option which lets their be an
 encrypted password in your home directory which xlock will check
 against instead of trying to use shadow passwords etc.

Yes, that is another way of getting xlock to read _a_ password, but
that still doesn't solve the problem of it not being able to read
your _nis_ password (which is mangled).  The option you speak of is
a hack which is useful for people who don't have complete control
over the machines or lan they are using.  In our case (since we do
have control over all the computers), we'd rather only have one
password per user read from a single location (i.e. nis).

The problem has now been settled.  The new xlock will check if nis
serves mangled passwords, and if it does, it will install xlock
setuid root (an unfortunate solution, but the only viable one).

Thanks anyways,

Behan

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Re: NFS/NIS support

1997-10-15 Thread Matthew Majka
Scott Ellis wrote:
 
 On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Matthew Majka wrote:
 
  I very new to Debian (maybe 24 hours) although I have quite
  a bit of experience with SGI's and Sun's.  I have a few
  questions I was hoping someone could answer for me.
 
 We'll sure try.  Always glad to have a new convert :)

I wouldn't call myself a convert (not from commercial
Unix'es anyway).  Just a personal quest to eliminate Windoze
wherever I can...  ;-)

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Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (regular posting, updated)

1997-10-15 Thread Scott Ellis
Notes on handling the new libc5 upgrade in the latest stable update are at
the end.


  Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO
  Scott K. Ellis, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  $Id: libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml,v 2.9 1997/10/14 02:46:50
  storm Exp $

  1.  Introduction

  The Debian project is currently in the process of putting together the
  next release of the Debian system.  This version will utilize the new
  libc6, a replacement for the prior libc5 which includes many
  enhancements and brings the Linux C library back into sync with the
  GNU project.  We are doing this in a way to allow you to continue to
  utilize your older software by providing development and operating
  environments for both C libraries.  However, all packages in the new
  release will be linked with the new C library.  This has made it
  slightly more difficult to install packages from the unstable branch
  of our development tree into a working system.  There is a slight
  possibility of making your system unbootable in the process, this
  guide is intended to help you avoid such problems.

  1.1.  Recent Changes:

  o  Updated note about /etc/nsswitch.conf

  o  Note about vthunk change with glibc 2.0.5c.

  o  Seperated bash upgrade from required upgrade.

  o  Note on how to upgrade via dpkg-ftp.

  o  Notes about NIS and libgdbm (perl) issues.

  o  Note about libc6-based e2fsck being bad for large partitions.

  1.2.  Finding updates

  The latest version of this Mini-HOWTO should be available in the
  following locations:

  o  http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

  o  http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt

  o  http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.sgml

  o  ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.txt

  o  ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-
 HOWTO.html.tar.gz

  1.3.  Copyright and Disclaimer

  This Mini-HOWTO is covered by the copyright of and may be further
  redistibuted under the same terms as other HOWTOs from the LDP.

  As always, this document comes with NO WARRANTY.  These comments are
  based on my personal experience and experimentation.  While this
  worked for me off a freshly installed v1.3.1 system, you mileage may
  vary.  Please send any comments or corrections to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  2.  Requirements

  2.1.  Minimum Requirements

  The minimum list of packages to install to be able to run unstable-
  branch packages is below.  Install these packages one at a time in
  exactly the order listed.  When versions are mentioned, that is a
  minimum suggested version, any later version should also be
  acceptable.

  o  ldso_1.9.5-1

  o  libc6_2.0.4-1

  2.2.  Upgrading bash

  While you can install many libc6 package with just ldso and libc6, you
  will probably want to upgrade a few other packages as well.  Since
  bash-2.01 fixes problems experienced with Netscape and helper
  applications, it is one of the more likely packages to need updated.
  However, it is also one of the few packages that is capable of
  rendering your system useless if upgraded incorrectly.  Install the
  packages below one at a time in exactly the order listed.

  IMPORTANT: If you use dselect to do the initial upgrade of these
  packages, there is a very good possibility of breaking bash and
  therefore making your system unusable.

  o  ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2

  o  ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-3

  o  libreadline2_2.1-4

  o  libreadlineg2_2.1-4

  o  bash_2.01-2

  2.3.  Other Suggested Packages

  These packages are not absolutely essential for the functioning of the
  packages in unstable, but are still very useful.  The new dpkg-dev may
  be necessary for unpacking source archives from unstable, and the new
  dpkg-ftp is needed if you wish to use the ftp method of dselect to
  upgrade your system to the unstable distribution.

  o  libg++272_2.7.2.5-2

  o  dpkg_1.4.0.19

  o  dpkg-dev_1.4.0.19

  o  dpkg-ftp_1.4.9

  2.4.  Other Possible Conflicts

  Since perl is used in many package installation scripts, problems with
  with library upgrades may temporarily break perl, which may break
  other package installations.  To be safe, install the new libgdbm1 and
  then the new libgdbmg1 packages by hand before upgrading perl.

  3.  Development

  If you wish to do libc6 development, you should first purge all the
  '-dev' packages on your system, the new development system will use
  packages with the suffix '-dev' for libc6 development and '-altdev'
  for libc5 development.  You will wish to install the latest libc5
  package, and altgcc if you wish continue to do libc5 development as
  well.  Some libraries haven't been recompiled for the new libc6 yet,
  check that all your vital libraries are available before upgrading.
  Linking libc5-based libraries with libc6-based programs will have
  unpredictable results.

  4.  Concerns

  4.1.  Upgrading to libc6_2.0.5c-0.1

  Due to a change in the vthunk handling code in libc6 and libg++, you
  must 

Re: Mounting File systems and shells

1997-10-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
Curlen Middleton wrote:
  Can anyone tell me how to mount my MSDOS and NTFS partitions...

Assume your DOS partition is your first primary partition; create a
directory called /dosc (or /bill_gates_oses_suck/c if you prefer).  Then,
as root, type:
   mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /dosc

If you don't want anyone to write to the partition, add -r before `-t msdos'.

For a Win95 partition, use vfat instead of msdos (but you may have to 
rebuild the kernel: I don't know if vfat support is built in to the
default kernel).

Use `umount /dosc' to unmount the partition.

If you want the partition mounted all the time, add this line to /etc/fstab:
/dev/hda1   /dosc   msdos   defaults   00

Look at the man page for mount to find the meaning of various options.

The first IDE disk (master) is /dev/hda and its primary partitions are
/dev/hda1 to /dev/hda4; the slave disk on the first controller is /dev/hdb
and so on.

   ...  And 
  also, what's a good msdos like shell and how do i set it up?

Something of an oxymoron, don't you think?

If you mean a shell that emulates DOS, I don't think there is one; why
would anyone create such a monster?  Any Unix shell has greater capabilities.

If you want to run DOS utilities on (unmounted) DOS disks, look at the 
package mtools, which contains programs such as mformat, mdir, mcopy
and so on.  To access a DOS disk which you have mounted, use normal
Unix commands.

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Sambades on non-us site

1997-10-15 Thread Matthew Tebbens


The Sambades package on the overseas site has permissions problems.
Anyone notice this ? Is it on purpose ?

Matthew


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NFS as root

1997-10-15 Thread kestrel
I was wondering on how to get a machine with no HD to mount its root via nfs
on another running machine, the only documentation I have found is on how to
create a nfsroot floppy which boots the kernel for the machine. The problem
is once its booted I get errors from INIT about initial console. Any idea
what's wrong and how to fix it?

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Re: Linux as a mail and intranetserver

1997-10-15 Thread Jack Holt
At 02:45 PM 10/15/97 +0500, Dirk Kievith wrote:
Internet Explorer 4.0 Active Desktop is quickly invading the `Dozer
realm shudder, but there is Eudora, or the stalwart Navigator or
others.

I agree with your shudder. IE4 appears to be only uninstalled by a
reformatting of the HD. Eudora is very fine, but does not support multiple
users on one machine. The same thing for Navigator, if I have understood
rightly.

Eudora does support multiple users.  They have a FAQ on this
somewhere on http://www.eudora.com.


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Re: Linux as a mail and intranetserver

1997-10-15 Thread Dirk Kievith
At 09:27 15.10.1997, Jack wrote:

At 02:45 PM 10/15/97 +0500, Dirk Kievith wrote:

Internet Explorer 4.0 Active Desktop is quickly invading the `Dozer
realm shudder, but there is Eudora, or the stalwart Navigator or
others.

I agree with your shudder. IE4 appears to be only uninstalled by a
reformatting of the HD. Eudora is very fine, but does not support multiple
users on one machine. The same thing for Navigator, if I have understood
rightly.

Eudora does support multiple users.  They have a FAQ on this
somewhere on http://www.eudora.com.

Checked Eudora Pro out. They write they support: 'Multiple e-mail accounts 
feature allows you to send and receive mail from different Internet e-mail 
accounts, so you can perform all of your correspondence at once.'

What I would need is a support for multiple email users on one or two machines, 
like Pegasus Mail. The kind of thing they implement in a college I suppose. 
Thus password protected login would also be necessary. Pegasus does not feature 
that either.

Suppose I will have to shift to Linux-based-email-packages?? :-)



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Re: xterm color (*sigh*)

1997-10-15 Thread Michael Harnois
Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 An old problem cropped up, tho.  I don't have colors in my xterms anymore.
 My xsysinfo has colors just fine, but not my xterms.  I never had to
 adjust anything with bo (except to edit /etc/profile with alias ls=ls
 --color, which I've done).

In one of your Xresources files (~/.Xresources if you have
allow-user-resources set in /etc/X11/config, add

XTerm*customization: -color

and you should be ok.

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Re: Problems

1997-10-15 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Oct 14, Julien Pham wrote
 I have installed magicfilter, but it doesn't work and send strange files to
 the printer...
 
 And I have add me to the audio group as you said (what is it apb25) but it
 doesn't work.

You want to add the userid that you normally use (not root, but the
other one). As someone has said, adduser is the proper way to do it,
and as someone else has said, you will have to log out and log in again
for it to work. Type groups - you should see something a bit like this
(but shorter!)

apb25 floppy sudo audio www-data src staff guest


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Re: problem with leafnode and gnus

1997-10-15 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Oct 13, Frank Barknecht wrote
 Gustaf Erikson hat gesagt: // Gustaf Erikson wrote:

  However, after subscribing to c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.advocacy with gnus,
  I run fetch. It takes a long time. I check /var/spool/news, and see
  lots of directories for alt, gnu, soc, and uk. 
 
 That's a feature, I think. A lot of messages get crosspostet to groups
 you don't have subscribed and you are not interested in. I even have 
 /var/spool/news/microsoft/...  :(

I started to use leafnode, but thought that this was ugly and stopped. I
hoped that either I was doing something wrong or leafnode would be fixed. 

I now use inn and newsx (I like newsx, but inn was a pain - maybe now I
have a better idea things won't be so bad). I have a page at
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/wyvern/isp which should help if you are
feeling lucky :-)

Adrian

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just add IP_FORWARDING/GATEWAYING

1997-10-15 Thread Otavio Exel
hi everybody,

just gave-up my first try at kernel compilation :-(

the reasons why it failed are unimportant now, I probably overlooked
one or more needed modules; the fact is that I was just trying to
add IP_FORWARDING GATEWAYING capabilities to my Debian 1.3 in order
to gain access to the internet through a PPP connection;

now I'd like to do my second atempt configuring it *exactly* like
Debian does except for the IP_FORWARDING GATEWAYING capabilities;
how do I do this? is Debian's /usr/src/linux/.config available
somewhere?

BTW: is there a *good* reason why Debian 1.3 comes
 without IP_FORWARDING GATEWAYING included?

TIA!

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Re: A quickie on telnet

1997-10-15 Thread Adam Shand
  Very simply, I'm trying to telnet to a site and get some data from a script.
  In HPUX, I would do this:
  
  echo Alinetobesent | telnet an.address.com 1234

Try this (just an example):

(echo group comp.os.linux.misc ; sleep 5 ) | telnet news.alaska.net nntp

This should work and you can can make the series inside the ()'s more
complicated if you want to do multiple commands.

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Re: building perl 5.004?

1997-10-15 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Ken Gaugler wrote:

 Has anyone successfully built Perl 5.004? I get all kinds of *.h files
 not found errors, like /usr/include/time.h no such file or directory.
 This is odd, because the files are definitely there.

I have built it just fine with systems based on both the bo and hamm
distributions.  Without seeing the output of something like
ls -l /usr/include/time.h and the *exact* error message(s) you get, I'm
afraid I can't give you much useful advice, however.

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Re: just add IP_FORWARDING/GATEWAYING

1997-10-15 Thread Adam Shand
 BTW: is there a *good* reason why Debian 1.3 comes
  without IP_FORWARDING GATEWAYING included?

I assume that anyone who is routing a proper network should know enough to
recompile the kernel (it's not exactly rocket science these days).

If it was included by default you could have all sort of people with
security problems that they don't even know about... and some of them will
never know about.

Adam.


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Re: Mounting File systems and shells

1997-10-15 Thread Joey Hess
Oliver Elphick wrote:
...  And 
   also, what's a good msdos like shell and how do i set it up?
 
 Something of an oxymoron, don't you think?

Yes :-)
 
 If you mean a shell that emulates DOS, I don't think there is one; why
 would anyone create such a monster?

But in fact one does exist - look at the lsh package. Example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ls
debian/   dl/   doc/  gnustep/  html/ mail/ prog/ work/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~lsh
Cls
debian   dl   doc  gnustep  html mail prog work

Cdir

 Volume in drive C is too loud
 Volume Serial Number is EF53-00FF
 Directory List

dl   DIR 10-15-97   1:36p
debian   DIR 10-05-97   1:50p
html DIR 10-04-97   4:28p
mail DIR 10-15-97   3:13p
prog DIR 10-09-97  11:56p
work DIR 10-15-97   1:06p
doc  DIR 10-12-97   6:51p
gnustep  DIR 07-17-97   3:43p
8 files0 bytes
  1337864192 bytes free

C

Scary, huh?

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Re: Debian Installation w/ AHA-2940

1997-10-15 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Dale Harrison wrote:

 I tried installing 1.3 today on a PC. It didn't go too well. I've
 installed Debian more times than I can recall, and have never had this
 problem before. Mind you, i've never installed it on a machine like this
 either.
 
 AHA-2940, 1x 2.1gig drive, 1x Sony CD.

  I'm using Debian 1.3, and had to build a custom boot disk because the
  probing in the regular install boot disk would somehow touch the Adaptec
  SCSI controller and reboot the PC.  The custom kernel (and instructions
  for use) is at:

   ftp://ftp.phys.ocean.dal.ca/users/rhogee/Debian/

  This doesn't really sound like it will sole your problem, but you might
  want to give it a try.
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Re: Laptop in different places ...

1997-10-15 Thread Martin . Bialasinski
On 14 Oct, Obi wrote:
 
 The problem is that I have my mail server on the subnet A, and my normal
 name is the one on subnet A. When I'm on subnet B, I'd like not to change
 the name of the machine to whatever.B, but if I don't do that, fetchmail
 is not able anymore to retrieve my mail. Everything else seems fine, but
 the mail.
 
Hi,

this is not a very helpfull describtion of your fetchmail problems.

What version of fetchmail do you run?
What does fetchmail -v say?

Ciao,
Martin



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Re: Sambades on non-us site

1997-10-15 Thread Richard L Shepherd
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote:

 The Sambades package on the overseas site has permissions problems.
 Anyone notice this ? Is it on purpose ?
 
 Matthew

Yes, my mirror has failed to pick this up for the last 2 days because of
this.  I REALLY want it for about 3 servers here.

8---8
Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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several problems with a new installation (hey, I'm learning)

1997-10-15 Thread Richard A. Guay
Hi,

I have a list of problems that I need help with:

1)  I still can not get the serial mouse to work.  Every time I configure it, th
e mouse flies around the screen very erratically.  I have messed around with man
y options for it and I still can not make it work!

2)  I can not get the sound to work!  If I execute cat bong.au /dev/audio I g
et zsh: no such device: /dev/audio (I did the cat at root level, so it is not 
a permissions conflict).  How do I check for the drivers for the audio board?  I
t is IBM MWave sound card.

3)  How do I check the number of bit planes being used by the xserver?  I seem t
o still run out of colors with a S3-Virge board with 2 Megs of RAM!  How do you 
specify the resolution and number of bit planes to come up in with startx?

4)  Where can I look to find some good background pictures in xpm format?

Thank you for your time and attention.

Richard A. Guay
Network Administrator
ASIC International Inc.
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Re: No DPMS with xdm and xautolock?

1997-10-15 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Lauder) writes:

 I'm running Debian 1.3.1 on a 486 with the XF86_P9000 Xserver. My
 monitor supports DPMS and I have the power_save option and
 StandbyTime, SuspendTime, and OffTime options set in my XF86Config
 file.
 
 The monitor suspends and powers down in X except when either running
 xautolock or when at the xdm login screen. Does anyone know why this
 is happening, and what I should do to enable DPMS powersaving for
 the xdm login and when running a screensaver?

xlock disables the screen saver by default.  You can use the
-enablesaver option to override this (according to the manual).  I
can't tell you about xdm as I'm not using it.

Torsten

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Re: route does not show all networks by name

1997-10-15 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Walter L. Preuninger II [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have 4 network cards a poor old 486-66. When I run route I see all
 routes fine, except for the -net entries. These are displayed in dotted
 quad instead of name.
 
 /etc/networks contains the following:
 
 localnet  127.0.0.1
 corenet   192.168.0.0
 loannet   192.160.0.32
 depnet192.160.0.64
 
 I feel this has some thing to do with my subnet mask of 255.255.255.224,
 so what do i do?

There was recently a discussion in de.comp.os.linux.networking (in
german) about this topic.  It seems that the code in netstat (or was
it route) assumes a network address to have the last of the four byte
set to zero (which is a wrong assumption with your netmask).  I don't
know if a patch is already available.  Maybe we should ask the author
about this.

Torsten

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Re: xterm/keypad

1997-10-15 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Dale Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is probably going to sound stupid, but...
 
 How does one enable the numeric keypad in an xterm? I've never actually
 noticed that the keypad acts as cursor movement before.

It works well for me.  With Numlock enabled I get the numeric keys,
with numlock disabled the cursor functions are enabled.

Here is a portion of my .Xmodmap for comparing:

keycode 0x4D =  Num_Lock
keycode 0x70 =  KP_Divide
keycode 0x3F =  KP_Multiply
keycode 0x52 =  KP_Subtract
keycode 0x4F =  KP_Home KP_7
keycode 0x50 =  KP_Up   KP_8
keycode 0x51 =  KP_PriorKP_9
keycode 0x56 =  KP_Add
keycode 0x53 =  KP_Left KP_4
keycode 0x54 =  NoSymbolKP_5
keycode 0x55 =  KP_RightKP_6
keycode 0x57 =  KP_End  KP_1
keycode 0x58 =  KP_Down KP_2
keycode 0x59 =  KP_Next KP_3
keycode 0x6C =  KP_Enter
keycode 0x5A =  KP_Insert   KP_0
keycode 0x5B =  KP_Delete   KP_Decimal
clear Mod2
addMod2= Num_Lock

These seems to be the relevant entries for the numeric keyboard.  
BTW, I use a Microsoft Natural Keyboard with german layout but this
shouldn't be of any importance.

Torsten

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Gs-aladdin 5.03 not yet uploaded...

1997-10-15 Thread Marco Pistore

  so i was able to obtain a libc5 gs-aladdin 5.03! (I'll upload it
  this night).

Unfortunately i have problems with the upload (problems on master
probably). I'll continue to try, however if someone needs gs-aladdin 5.03
ungently, i can put the package somewhere in my private ftp space.

Thank you, 

Marco




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man page for mkfs.ext2 ??

1997-10-15 Thread Chris R. Martin

I'm in the process of copying my Debian system to a new (larger) partition
and I want to tinker with the number of inodes, etc.  The man page for
mkfs refers me to the man page for mkfs.ext2... but I don't have it!

Does anyone know which package this belongs in? I thought I got all the
man pages...

Thanks
Chris

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 how to read but I've got a lot of toys. 
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Portmapper errors

1997-10-15 Thread Darin Johnson
I get the following messages in syslog, right after the ifconfigs:

Oct 15 07:34:39 wildebeest kernel: portmap: RPC call returned error 111
Oct 15 07:34:39 wildebeest kernel: RPC: task of released request still queued!
Oct 15 07:34:39 wildebeest kernel: RPC: (task is on xprt_pending)
(repeat twice more)

Any ideas on this?  Is it serious? I'm running 2.1.57, with a bunch of
the unstable debian packages.
(I had some bizarre nfs behavior, but I passed that off as kernel related)


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Re: man page for mkfs.ext2 ??

1997-10-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Chris R. Martin wrote:

 
 I'm in the process of copying my Debian system to a new (larger) partition
 and I want to tinker with the number of inodes, etc.  The man page for
 mkfs refers me to the man page for mkfs.ext2... but I don't have it!
 
 Does anyone know which package this belongs in? I thought I got all the
 man pages...

I don't know why, but try 'man mke2fs' instead.



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Re: Mounting File systems and shells

1997-10-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
Joey Hess wrote:
  Oliver Elphick wrote:
...
   If you mean a shell that emulates DOS, I don't think there is one; why
   would anyone create such a monster?
  
  But in fact one does exist - look at the lsh package. Example:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ls
  debian/   dl/   doc/  gnustep/  html/ mail/ prog/ work/
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~lsh
  Cls
  debian   dl   doc  gnustep  html mail prog work
  
  Cdir
  
   Volume in drive C is too loud

   Volume Serial Number is EF53-00FF
   Directory List
  
  dl   DIR 10-15-97   1:36p
  debian   DIR 10-05-97   1:50p
  html DIR 10-04-97   4:28p
  mail DIR 10-15-97   3:13p
  prog DIR 10-09-97  11:56p
  work DIR 10-15-97   1:06p
  doc  DIR 10-12-97   6:51p
  gnustep  DIR 07-17-97   3:43p
  8 files0 bytes
1337864192 bytes free
  
  C
  
  Scary, huh?
  

Good grief

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Re: NFS as root

1997-10-15 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was wondering on how to get a machine with no HD to mount its root via nfs
 on another running machine, the only documentation I have found is on how to
 create a nfsroot floppy which boots the kernel for the machine. The problem
 is once its booted I get errors from INIT about initial console. Any idea
 what's wrong and how to fix it?

Have you tried the nfsroot package? It contains some useful scripts to set
up the server for the diskless clients. They still aren't perfect (hence
the version number: 0.5), but once you get the idea, you can fill in the
gaps yourself. I did it once and had a working system.

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Re: NFS as root

1997-10-15 Thread joost witteveen
 On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I was wondering on how to get a machine with no HD to mount its root via nfs
  on another running machine, the only documentation I have found is on how to
  create a nfsroot floppy which boots the kernel for the machine. The problem
  is once its booted I get errors from INIT about initial console. Any idea
  what's wrong and how to fix it?
 
 Have you tried the nfsroot package? It contains some useful scripts to set
 up the server for the diskless clients. They still aren't perfect (hence
 the version number: 0.5)

Note, that for hamm, the not-perfectness is somewhat extreme: it
doesn't work at all, however hard you try.

For bo, on the other hand, it should work, after you read most of
the docs.


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#!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)
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Re: NFS as root

1997-10-15 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

 Note, that for hamm, the not-perfectness is somewhat extreme: it
 doesn't work at all, however hard you try.

Can you explain why it doesn't work? I think I haven't used my diskless
computer since I upgraded the nfsroot package to the current hamm version.

Remco


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nslookup failure due to Connection refused

1997-10-15 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Using the latest versions of libc6, netbase and netstd 2.17-1,
and dnsutils 8.1.1-2, I can't seem to get nslookup working.
The error message is 
   *** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Server failed

When I run 'strace nslookup', I see that the sequence of events leading
up to this is:

open(/home/sgk/.nslookuprc, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_IP) = 3
sendto(3, \315\333\1\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\001..., 40, 0, {sin_family=AF_INET, 
sin_port=htons(53), sin_addr=inet_addr(127.0.0.1)}, 16) = 40
select(4, [3], NULL, NULL, {5, 0})  = 1 (in [3], left {5, 0})
recvfrom(3, \315\333\201\202\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0..., 1024, 0, 
{sin_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(53), sin_addr=inet_addr(127.0.0.1)}, 
[16]) = 40
close(3)= 0
write(2, *** Can\'t find server name for ..., 64*** Can't find server name 
for address 127.0.0.1: Server failed

but I fail to infer what action item to take as a result.

Any help would be appreciated.
Susan Kleinmann


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