Re: problem with leafnode and gnus

1997-10-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 02:54:59PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
  leafnode is a program, you don't need care about - just install it and
  that's it (ok, change one or two lines in config file).
  
  But you have to install inews, too. Otherwise you cannot post.
 
 Not really. You can use inews if you like. Or you can use a news reader like
 slrn that posts via nntp. Leafnode will accept the post and feed it to the
 upstream news server next time fetch is run.

I see. Well, I have to admit that I'm not very sophisticated with news
software. I remeber dependencies problems with inews, but they are solved
now.

So, as often, one has multiple choice :)

Thank you,
Marcus
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Re: sound programs part 2

1997-10-17 Thread Britton

Hmm, I thought Debian bplay was compiled with buffer lockdowns out, since
they can cause crashes.  So my guess is that even as root, you are not
really getting them, but the check isn't made so you don't see that
message.  It probably doesn't matter, since I have been able to do pretty
cpu intensive stuff on my P133 while recording without any drop in
quality.  btw: have you managed to make the delay options (-t and -j I
think) work with raw sound files ( I havn't tried other types)?  For me,
they just seem to get ignored.  

On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Shaleh wrote:

 I now have bplay and timidity installed.  Thanks for the help.  When I
 run bplay as a user I get the following: 
 bplay: setpriority: Permission denied: continuing anyway
 bplay: shmctl: Operation not permitted: continuing with unlocked buffers
 
 it still plays though.  Does not happen as root.


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elf-x11r6lib

1997-10-17 Thread Matt Thompson
hi, y'all,

I've upgraded to hamm across the board, and found that xmix doesn't work
anymore.  (I even tried installing it from dselect and I get a
Segmentation fault both as mattyt and as root).  So I found another mixer
that needed xforms.  When I tried to install xforms from dselect, it said
I needed elf-x11r6lib, but that it doesn't appear to be available?

Can anyone help me get a working xmix-type program under hamm?

thanks,
matty

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nfs problem

1997-10-17 Thread Jason Killen

Hello all.  I have finally gottne nis setup on a few machines but nfs is 
giving me problems.  Basically what happens is when the client mounts the
server all ownerships are lost.  I have tried using map_daemon in /etc/exports
of the server and running ugidd but to no avail.  Has anyone gotten nis/nfs
up and running and if so could you please give me some instructions on getting
nfs to work out.  I noticed that the debian nis howto didn't say anything about
nfs.

Thanks.
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Re: elf-x11r6lib

1997-10-17 Thread Will Lowe
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

 that needed xforms.  When I tried to install xforms from dselect, it said
 I needed elf-x11r6lib, but that it doesn't appear to be available?

gs-alladin depends on it,  too,  but I couldn't find it either.

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Any interest in SNMP web based network monitor?

1997-10-17 Thread R. Chris Ross
For the past couple of weeks I have been using a package called
MRTG.  Both the current release and the beta for the next release are
running nicely, showing html graphic display of SNMP data.  The package is
set up for monitoring network traffic but can be easily modified to monitor
other parameters.

There are several things that are nice about this package.

1. The graphs are generated as gif files with a html that can be put right
onto your web server for easy access by anyone with a web browser.

2. There are no other data collectors necessary.  MRTG handles it all.

3. The log files don't grow,  The data is kept in daily, weekly, monthly
and yearly form with corresponding graphs.
( Drawback is that an old time can't be looked at in detail.)

4. The only additional packages needed are libdg that I believe is in
unstable and the current pearl that stable is using.
(I compiled libdg from it's origin and didn't find it until later
in the Debian tree so I 'm not really sure about it.)

If there are folks that are interested I'd like to try and package it.
Never done that before but I think that it would be a nice addition to
Debian.  Several folks have told me that this would have come in handy for
different tasks.  When I set it up at work, some of the data that we got
was extremely interesting.

Cheers,
Chris



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Netscape??

1997-10-17 Thread Christopher Jason Morrone

I'm trying to get the netscape 4 beta installer, but its doesn't seem to
be going well...

In dselect I did an Update, and cleared everything.  So my list is up to
date.  I selected the netscape beta package.  Went to Install, and
then...nothing.

It won't find it during the install page.  Doesn't find any new packages
to install.  Does the file actually exist in the correct place in the
archives?


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Re: Any interest in SNMP web based network monitor?

1997-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
R. Chris Ross wrote:
   For the past couple of weeks I have been using a package called
 MRTG.

It's already a debian package:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~dpkg -s mrtg
Package: mrtg
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: contrib/net
Installed-Size: 223
Maintainer: Dermot Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 2.2-1
Depends: libc5 (= 5.4.0-0), libgd1, perl (= 5.003)
Recommends: httpd
Conffiles:
 /etc/mrtg.cfg 70f198adbe0f5cb6d567c0fc5ab1de91
Description: Multi Router Traffic Grapher
 The Multi Router Traffic Grapher is a tool to monitor the traffic load on
 network links using SNMP. MRTG generates HTML pages containing GIF images
 which provide a LIVE visual representation of this traffic. MRTG typically
 produces daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly graphs.

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Re: dpkg slackware?

1997-10-17 Thread Bruce Perens
Try unpacking the package, tarring up the result, and moving it to the
slackware system that way. If it doesn't work, you might have to
run autoconfig and build it from source under slackware.

Be sure the /var/lib/dpkg directory gets bootstrapped with something
sensible.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: Netscape??

1997-10-17 Thread Matt Thompson
I have Netscape 4.03 (non-beta, full release) and it comes with it's own
installer.  Just download the file from:

ftp://ftp9.netscape.com//pub/communicator/4.03/shipping/english/unix/linux20
/base_install   (you can modify the url if you want something slightly
different, like navigator only)

...then do a tar -xzvf on it, and run the install script as root
($ ./ns-install ,i believe) and it will do all the work for you.  just
make sure you make a link from /usr/bin, or somesuch, because it won't put
the executable in one of the 'bin' directories.

cheers,
matty 

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On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Christopher Jason Morrone wrote:

 
 I'm trying to get the netscape 4 beta installer, but its doesn't seem to
 be going well...
 
 In dselect I did an Update, and cleared everything.  So my list is up to
 date.  I selected the netscape beta package.  Went to Install, and
 then...nothing.
 
 It won't find it during the install page.  Doesn't find any new packages
 to install.  Does the file actually exist in the correct place in the
 archives?
 
 
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Re: Netscape??

1997-10-17 Thread Christopher Jason Morrone

On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

 I have Netscape 4.03 (non-beta, full release) and it comes with it's own
 installer.  Just download the file from:
[cut]

Yeah, I guess I'll just break down and do that.


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Controlling the FPU under Linux

1997-10-17 Thread Chris Hanson
   Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:28:12 +0200
   From: Thomas SCHIEX [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   I'd like to know if anybody has experience in finely controlling the FPU
   under Linux (I'm under Debian 1.3.1). I need to control the rounding mode of
   the FPU (rounding up or down instead of to nearest).

Here is a program to set the FPU modes (assuming you are using an
Intel machine).

/*

Code to initialize the ix87 FP coprocessor control word.
This code must be run once before starting a computation.

Bit(s)  Description
--  ---
0   invalid operation (FP stack overflow or IEEE invalid arithmetic op)
1   denormalized operand
2   zero divide
3   overflow
4   underflow
5   precision (indicates that precision was lost; happens frequently)

The first 6 bits control how the chip responds to various
exceptions.  If a given mask bit is 0, then that exception
will generate a processor trap.  If the mask bit is 1, then
that exception will not trap but is handled by a default
action, usually substituting an infinity or NaN.

Default is all masks set to 1.

8/9 precision control

00 IEEE single precision
01 (reserved)
10 IEEE double precision
11 non-IEEE extended precision

Default is non-IEEE extended precision.

10/11   rounding control

00 round to nearest or even
01 round toward negative infinity
10 round toward positive infinity
11 truncate toward zero

Default is round to nearest or even.

This code (0x0220) sets these bits as follows:

1. Precision mask 1, all others 0.
2. Precision control: IEEE double precision.
3. Rounding control: round to nearest or even.

*/

#ifdef __GNUC__
#if #cpu (i386)

void
initialize_387_to_ieee (void)
{
  unsigned short control_word;
  asm (fclex : : );
  asm (fnstcw %0 : =m (control_word) : );
  asm (andw %2,%0 : =m (control_word) : 0 (control_word), n (0xf0e0));
  asm (orw %2,%0 : =m (control_word) : 0 (control_word), n (0x0220));
  asm (fldcw %0 : : m (control_word));
}

#endif /* #cpu (i386) */
#endif /* __GNUC__ */


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Mutt_0.84-0 doesn't send

1997-10-17 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi, everybody --

I have installed new mutt package compiled for libc5 (THANKS to Ray for
keeping us with libc5 in mind!), ver. 0.84-0, and all was running fine
so I deleted my old package 0.74-3. BUT, I didn't try to send an Email
and sure enough that is the only function I can not get to work. I
believe that has something to do with the new wzy of handling the
$sendmail variable in mutt but I don't know how to change the sendmail
command to include the -t option (I'm running smail!) as mentioned in
the mutt README file (my error message in mutt is sh:no:command not
found).
Can someone let me know what i can do to fix this problem (I can do
everything else in mutt as is now) or point me to the place where I can
get debianized mutt_0.74-3?
TIA
DamirN


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Virtual DOMAIN with Sendmail/Qmail?

1997-10-17 Thread Zsolt Varga

Hello !

...could you help me,
In this times, I have to install some virtual domain 'handler' to our mail
server...

at the moment it's running with Deb 1.3 and with sendmail 8.8.5
is it hard to make virtual domain/virtual pop3 services with sendmail

or it's better to do with Qmail?

thanks 

Zsolt Varga


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problem with dselect (ftp method)

1997-10-17 Thread Debian List
Hi,

I must have a problem with perl, I get the following error when trying
dselect with ftp:

Can't locate IO/Socket.pm in @INC at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 378.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 378.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup line 7.

what do I need to do to fix perl for that?

thanks
Ricardo


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Re: /dev/md0

1997-10-17 Thread Philippe Troin

On Thu, 09 Oct 1997 14:26:02 +0200 Pere Camps ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

   I have a linear partition on my linux box (/dev/md0 =
 hdb7+hdb9+hdb11), and when I run the `mdadd -ar`, and I then mount the
 filesystem something like the following comes up:
 
   Warning: /dev/md0 has no checksum field
   
   Should I worry?

Yes and no.
This is because you created you mdtab by hand, and not with mdcreate.
Mdcreate computes a checksum and puts it in the mdtab.
When mdrunning a md partition, the checksum is computed and is compared to the 
one stored in the mdtab. If they're different, the md device isn't started.

Having checksums can prevent you major problems if for example you add new 
disks and the devices change:
You have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 as a single MD disk.
/dev/sda has SCSI ID 0, /dev/sdb has ID 6.
You add a new scsi device with id 3.
Your /dev/sdb becomes /dev/sdc !
You'll probably trash your md device on next mount...
The same can happen if you add/delete partitions...

So, to have this checksum added to your mdtab, recreate it with mdcreate.

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Re: CDR drive replacement.

1997-10-17 Thread Philippe Troin

On Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:28:57 EDT Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

 I have used Philips CDRs exclusively and have not been satisfied. For the
 usual reasons, I am replacing my current CDR and want something that will
 last a while. I can get an HP SureStore CD-Writer 6020 for a
 reasonable price. I am curious if anyone has had any first hand
 experience with this device? Is it encouraging?

I have one and am 85% happy with it.
CD writing and reading work ok (cdwrite and cdrecord work with it).
Direct sound transfer (cdda2wav) works too.
I'm less happy with the audio CD part. I had to hack the kernel so that I don't 
get target busy messages full my syslog. The various audio CD players work 
barely ok.

So, if you don't care struggling moderately to have it play audio CDs, go for 
it.

Phil.



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Re: problem with dselect (ftp method)

1997-10-17 Thread Alex Romosan
i had the same problem earlier today, so i fixed by just reinstalling
a bunch of packages (dpkg and the gang, perl, libc6). i think the one
that did was libc6. or maybe it was just a coincidence.

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Re: scroll-back buffer

1997-10-17 Thread B. Bell
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
 How can I clear the scroll-back buffer when a use logs out (other than
 changing tty's)?

if you have SVGATextMode installed, executing 'stm' will do it.

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Xfree86: how to make Backspace really be KeySym backspace??

1997-10-17 Thread Steve Hsieh
Hi,

It appears that in the default keyboard mapping for xfree86 (xkb
disabled), both the backspace key *and* the delete key are mapped to the
KeySym 'Delete'.  Can someone tell me where this is being done?
I don't want these keys mapped.

In other words, I'd like the 
  delete key = keysym Delete
  backspace key = keysym BackSpace
the way it should be.

I know I could use xmodmap to remap the keys back to the original ways,
but I'd rather find the source of the problem and remove the mapping that
is currently being done in the first place.  Can anyone help? 



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Re: Mutt_0.84-0 doesn't send

1997-10-17 Thread jdassen
On Fri, Oct 17, 1997 at 12:48:55AM -0400, Damir J. Naden wrote:
 I have installed new mutt package compiled for libc5 (THANKS to Ray for
 keeping us with libc5 in mind!), ver. 0.84-0, and all was running fine
 so I deleted my old package 0.74-3. BUT, I didn't try to send an Email
 and sure enough that is the only function I can not get to work. I
 believe that has something to do with the new wzy of handling the
 $sendmail variable in mutt but I don't know how to change the sendmail
 command to include the -t option (I'm running smail!) as mentioned in
 the mutt README file (my error message in mutt is sh:no:command not
 found).

Can you try if sending mail works if you don't set $sendmail at all? The
default is /usr/lib/sendmail -t -oi -oem, and smail is more or less command
line compatible with sendmail (see smail(1)). On my system, I haven't set
$sendmail, and it works.

If that doesn't help, please detail your $sendmail setting.

Greetings,
Ray
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Re: elf-x11r6lib

1997-10-17 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Will Lowe wrote:

 On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
 
  that needed xforms.  When I tried to install xforms from dselect, it said
  I needed elf-x11r6lib, but that it doesn't appear to be available?
 
 gs-alladin depends on it,  too,  but I couldn't find it either.

This is a wrong (old) dependency, AFAIK. Newer versions of these packages
will depend on xlib6. In the meantime you can ignore this problem. Use
dpkg to install the offending packages with --force-depends.


  Ulf

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packages from parallel Zip drive

1997-10-17 Thread ANTJE OLDENBURG
hello everybody,

I've just installed the base system on my computer at home but
I don't have any ftp-connection or CD-drive in it.
But I've downloaded the stable/msdos-i386 packages to my 
parallel Iomega-ZIP drive.
How can I install these packages with this?

 thank you,
Antje


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Postgres

1997-10-17 Thread Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe
Hi

Once again I'm here to talk about Postgres.

It was suggested previously that a new package to exist should be
created using libc6. But (and correct me if i'm wrong) libc6 will only
be final with hamm, so it might make some sense to create a package
still using libc5 and maybe another one with libc6. What do you think
about this ?

Another question relates to the process of upgrading, wich for what i
could gather is just a process of dumping the db and reloading.

I would like to know if anyone is interested in having, at least one of
this packages created, then i wouldn't mind creating it...

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Re: xdvi

1997-10-17 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Dale Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])$ xdvi 
 /usr/X11R6/bin
 Error: XsraSelFile: can't get font 9x15

 Any ideas as to
 
 - Which 9x15 font it's looking for?

I assume the normal 9x15 from X.  It is in the xfntbase package.
Please check if this package if installed and if there is a file
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/9x15.pcf.gz .

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Re: Booting to SCSI

1997-10-17 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hey everyone!
 
 Simple (hopefully) question.  I've got an IDE drive on an Tyan
 motherboard with an Award BIOS.  I recently went out and bought a
 Seagate Cheetah drive on a Symbios Logic (aka NCR) 53c875 host
 adapter (an AWESOME combination, BTW g) How do I make the system
 boot from the SCSI drive instead of the IDE drive?

If your computer's BIOS don't have an option for first letting the
SCSI adapter boot you have no chance of doing it.  Some newer Asus
Boards seems to support this, unfortunatly I don't know if Asus is
still using Award BIOS.

Torsten

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Re: elf-x11r6lib

1997-10-17 Thread Matt Thompson
Ulf,

Thanks for your reply.  I have a 1.3.1 CD with xtetris on it, and since
I've upgraded to hamm fully, it's no longer available thru dselect.  I
tried what you suggested, but xtetris wouldn't run at all, so I removed
it.  I think it's odd to have packages available in dselect which have
dependencies that aren't available.

oh, well, i found a mixer that's good (tkmixer) and since it's only a
game that i can't get to work, it's really no big deal.  debian remains
the best OS that I'm aware of, IMHO. :)

matty

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On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

 Will Lowe wrote:
 
  On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
  
   that needed xforms.  When I tried to install xforms from dselect, it said
   I needed elf-x11r6lib, but that it doesn't appear to be available?
  
  gs-alladin depends on it,  too,  but I couldn't find it either.
 
 This is a wrong (old) dependency, AFAIK. Newer versions of these packages
 will depend on xlib6. In the meantime you can ignore this problem. Use
 dpkg to install the offending packages with --force-depends.
 
 
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Re: Booting to SCSI

1997-10-17 Thread Matt Thompson
I bought a ASUS P55T2P4 recently and it came with Award BIOS v4.51, which
does allow booting off of SCSI devices (although I only have ide).  You
might try going to Award's site and getting an upgrade.

cheers,
matty

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On 16 Oct 1997, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:

 John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hey everyone!
  
  Simple (hopefully) question.  I've got an IDE drive on an Tyan
  motherboard with an Award BIOS.  I recently went out and bought a
  Seagate Cheetah drive on a Symbios Logic (aka NCR) 53c875 host
  adapter (an AWESOME combination, BTW g) How do I make the system
  boot from the SCSI drive instead of the IDE drive?
 
 If your computer's BIOS don't have an option for first letting the
 SCSI adapter boot you have no chance of doing it.  Some newer Asus
 Boards seems to support this, unfortunatly I don't know if Asus is
 still using Award BIOS.
 
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From Slackware to Debian

1997-10-17 Thread tfoong





Hello ALL,

I have just joined this list.   Hello to all you debian people.

I have just received my debian 1.3.1 CD and have had my
first try at installing it. ( Well it failled   sob .. more on that later )

I have been running Slackware for several years now. However
I am no expert.  I have several questions about debian. I asked
the question on the linux.misc news groups but they said I should
ask here I hope some helpful souls can assist me.

The questions are as follows.

As I have had some experience with slackware please all you
ex slackers think what were your experience when switching to
debian.

* What are the major differences between Slackware
  and Debian?
* I have noticed that there is a difference between the
  debian boot up and the slackware bootup files. Is there
  any good documentation on this It looks like it is SysV
  style how close is it to SVR4 what is the differences ie
  can I read up on SVR4 init and know all about the debian
  init?.
* This one has got me worried. I have heard that there is
  a one group per user. I am sure this does not effect a
  normal user but I would still like to know what exactly it
  means as I am interested in writing some edi messaging
  software and would like to really understand all the
  implications of this scheme of setting up rights. Is there
  some good reference on how this all works.

My install Problems.  For all those loong suffering people
that are able to help me I would really appreciate your
assistance with my install problems.

Well IT DONT WORK!!

Well actually it works but I have only got the basic system
about 18MB used when I do a df

Let me tell you about my system.
  - 486DX 80
  -  16MB ram.
  -  820 MB harddisk,
  -  VGA on a mono screen.
  -  cyclom 8port board(Great thing).
  -  1.44 floppy disk drive
  -  NE2000 compatible network card.
  NOTE : no CD ROM

The harddisk is partitioned this way
  - I have a Dos and Win3.1 on a 250 MB partition
  - 32 Mb Swap partition
  - 500+ for Linux

How I installed it -
* I have a Win NT box which has a CDROM.
* I copied most of  the bo directories on to the Dos
  Partition using Win for Workgroup and sharing a
  directoy so that I can see it from my NT box.
* I couldnt copy all the debian distribution because I did
  not have enough space.  250MB is not enough to hold
  all of the debian distribution.
* I left out the X and the Ham radio stuff. I got all the
   -  base
   - develop
   - net and most of the others
   - I did NOT have the packages.gz file.
* I copied the boot directory to the dos machine
  and ran rebooted from there.

The Install seemed to run OK.  I thought I selected all
the required packages.  (it seemed it be able to pick up all
the available packages even when I did not have package.gz)
I thought it would install the  the packages with a * character
( in dselect).
However when I rebooted it only had 18MB installed and
no man no less no nothing.

I tried running dselect again and zippo nada nothing gets installed.
I must be missing something simple

** Another question is with the NE2000 install.
I used to give the command ether0=0,0x300,eth0 to lilo
( or something else ? cant remember)  but the debian install
didnt like that incantation. Instead i put in io=0x300 that seemed
to work BUT when I rebooted (after the install) it locks up
at boot up.( Just afetr it says its going into multiuser mode and
there is a ne on the first column of the next line). I can get it to
continue by hitting CTRL-C.

How can I get the ether= incantation inserted in the right place?
Where is the right place?

** An another problem is that once I Installed Linux I could not
  my DOS partition anymore. The install routine did not give me
  the option to specify my other DOS partition to boot.  There are
  several lilo things around but it just seems to make thing worst

So now I have rebooted with a dos pc and used FDISK to set
my DOS partition as active so that i can use the box and get
ready for another install.

SO what I would appreciate is some hits and clues so that I
can get a good second install.

Thanks in advance.

I was also planning to put several partitions on the hardisk
there was some documentation with some suggested
partition sizes for a 1.6 gig hardisk.

I think it was
 50 MB swap
 30 MB root
 40 MB var
 450MB usr
 1000MB home

I was thinking that I should have something similar
like this
 32 MB swap
 25 MB rootis this a problem ?
 30 MB var is this a problem ?
 300 MB usr   Dont think this is a problem is it ? do I need 450?
 The rest for Home

Any suggestions? is it a bad idea reducing root  boot  to 25MB
and /var to 30MB what about 300 MB for /usr?

Again thanks for any responses

Tze weng Foong

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Re: xdvi

1997-10-17 Thread Miguel A. Arranz
As for the problems with \special{landscape} not implemented in xdvi,
I think that the answer is in the configuration of teTeX. Run texconfig
and check that you have properly configured xdvi.

Hope it helps

 
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Re: Postgres

1997-10-17 Thread Oliver Elphick
Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote:
  Once again I'm here to talk about Postgres.
  
  It was suggested previously that a new package to exist should be
  created using libc6. But (and correct me if i'm wrong) libc6 will only
  be final with hamm, so it might make some sense to create a package
  still using libc5 and maybe another one with libc6. What do you think
  about this ?
  
Since I'm on unstable, I don't personally need a libc5 copy.  My own
efforts are concentrated on trying to find the date problem which appears
to come from the change to libc6.  Once I solve that, I'll release a
package for hamm, since Siggy Bentrup appears to have left the scene. (He
hasn't responded to my email at all.)  Unfortunately, most PostgreSQL
developers aren't using the new libc, so it may take a while.

  Another question relates to the process of upgrading, wich for what i
  could gather is just a process of dumping the db and reloading.

Unfortunately, it's not quite as simple as that:

Bear in mind that you will need to dump postgres95 data using its 
own version of pg_dumpall; this will probably fail to preserve SQL
permissions.  Also, reloading will fail if any column names are
reserved words or in mixed case, since PostgreSQL 6.2 is more restrictive
in both cases.

I think that the old and new versions ought to be made to conflict;
the user should dump his old data and restore it manually.  If you
try to automate this, it is likely to give someone a false sense of security
and end up going horribly wrong.

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Re: Anyone getting jdk1.1 working?

1997-10-17 Thread Benjamin Ryzman
Richard A. Guay wrote:
 
 On 16-Oct-97 Lawrence wrote:
  make sure you are in 256 colour mode, at first.
 
 
 Are you saying that the jdk will not run in other graphics mode but 256 
 colour?
  I sure hope that that is not the case.
 

It isn't. I run the jdk daily for my development work. My X server is set at
16bit depth. I've not experienced any memory leakage as described in other post,
yet.


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mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered

1997-10-17 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
Hi,

I'm having this message when trying to mount an exported fs.
Both machines are Debian, running almost same versions. 
Does somebody have a hint about this?   
The fs was mounted once and work for long time. After the last 
power fail I can't mount it anymore.

Thanks,

[]s,
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
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Re: man page for nsswitch.conf

1997-10-17 Thread Dale Martin
Lukas Eppler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I just wanted to remind you that libc6 is unstable and in development. So
 problems about it should go in [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 

Thanks for the reminder.  As I suspected, 99% of the problems I was
having with NIS were from misconfiguration of nsswitch.conf.  Once
someone pointed out where the documentation was, it was easy to fix.

Later,
Dale

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Re: Virtual DOMAIN with Sendmail/Qmail?

1997-10-17 Thread Scott Ellis
On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Zsolt Varga wrote:

 ...could you help me,
 In this times, I have to install some virtual domain 'handler' to our mail
 server...
 
 at the moment it's running with Deb 1.3 and with sendmail 8.8.5
 is it hard to make virtual domain/virtual pop3 services with sendmail

Sendmail can do virtual domains with the virtusertable feature.  There is
documentation in the sendmail package on how to make this work correctly.

 or it's better to do with Qmail?

Qmail can also do virtual domains fairly easily, documentation for how is
in the qmail FAQ.  There is an unoffical qmail package for debian sitting
in the project/experimental directory on the archives which seems to work
well.

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Re: From Slackware to Debian

1997-10-17 Thread Scott Ellis
On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As I have had some experience with slackware please all you
 ex slackers think what were your experience when switching to
 debian.
 
 * What are the major differences between Slackware
   and Debian?

Well, besides being better :)

Debian's packaging system is more granular, allowing you better control
over what packages you want to install.  The packages also generally come
with a better default configuration than slackware, making administration
easier.  Debian packages are also more intelligent on upgrades, allowing
you to upgrade bits and pieces of your system (or the whole system)
without rebooting or reinstalling.

 * I have noticed that there is a difference between the
   debian boot up and the slackware bootup files. Is there
   any good documentation on this It looks like it is SysV
   style how close is it to SVR4 what is the differences ie
   can I read up on SVR4 init and know all about the debian
   init?.

The working of the SysV init scripts we use is described in
/etc/init.d/README

 * This one has got me worried. I have heard that there is
   a one group per user. I am sure this does not effect a
   normal user but I would still like to know what exactly it
   means as I am interested in writing some edi messaging
   software and would like to really understand all the
   implications of this scheme of setting up rights. Is there
   some good reference on how this all works.

Debian can be configured to install all users into a single group, or to
install one group per user.  The advantage of the second configuration
(which RedHat also uses) is that users can set their umask to 002 and have
files group writable, which when put in directorys set g+s for a project
group, allow users to share files in groups with less effort and potential
for error.

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Re: majordomo list server

1997-10-17 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
From: Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On 16 Oct 1997, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:

 test-list: :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/test
 
 it is not the correct one!? 

I think that's ok (don't take my word for this). But probably the
configuration of some director in smail is not... in /etc/smail/directors.

I don't remember, it either this one:

aliasinclude:
driver = aliasinclude, nobody;
copysecure, copyowners

or this one:

lists:
   driver=forwardfile, sender_okay, owner=owner-$user,
caution, nobody;
   file=lists/${lc:user}


Many, many thanks.

The

aliasinclude:
driver = aliasinclude, nobody;
copysecure, copyowners

was missing in /etc/smail/directors.

At\'e breve
===

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Departamento de Matem\'atica
Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia
Universidade de Coimbra
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Where is ripd or gated

1997-10-17 Thread R Chris Ross
I was looking for a daemon to do rip.  It was in one of the net 
packages but I don't see it now.  Very possible that I overlooked it.

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Re: Where is ripd or gated

1997-10-17 Thread R Chris Ross
Sorry about that I'v gone brain dead again.  I am looking for gated 
but it was routed that I was thinking of and that's fine.


   I was looking for a daemon to do rip.  It was in one of the net 
 packages but I don't see it now.  Very possible that I overlooked it.
 
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sql database

1997-10-17 Thread Timothy Phan
Hi,

  Has anyone done any benchmark/comparison between these databases?
mSQL, MySQL, PostGres95
  in term of performance, application interfaces such as perl, tcl,
  and drivers such as odbc, jdbc, etc.

  Thanks!

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Re: dpkg slackware?

1997-10-17 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

 Try unpacking the package, tarring up the result, and moving it to the
 slackware system that way. If it doesn't work, you might have to
 run autoconfig and build it from source under slackware.
 
 Be sure the /var/lib/dpkg directory gets bootstrapped with something
 sensible.
 
Isn't there a non-debian tarball of dpkg somewhere? I can never remember
where it is kept, but I remember Christoph used it as the starting point
for his RedHat conversions. I would assume that it is the best starting
point for installing Debian on foriegn machines.

Luck,

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administration tool for command logging

1997-10-17 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

I was wondering whether there is a system administration tool 
which permits the monitoring of specified commands, file access attempts,
by users. 
 Thanks
 George 


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Re: dpkg slackware?

1997-10-17 Thread James Troup
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Isn't there a non-debian tarball of dpkg somewhere?

[...] Debian/project/experimental ls -l dpkg*nondebbin*
-r--r--r--   1 adminroot  555827 Oct  8 17:17 
dpkg_1.4.0.19_alpha.nondebbin.tar.gz
-r--r--r--   1 adminroot  459539 Jul 21 23:48 
dpkg_1.4.0.19_i386.nondebbin.tar.gz
-r--r--r--   1 adminroot  448653 Aug  1 20:54 
dpkg_1.4.0.19_m68k.nondebbin.tar.gz
-r--r--r--   1 adminroot  209141 Feb 19  1997 
dpkg_1.4.0.8_sparc.nondebbin.tar.gz

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Re: CDR drive replacement.

1997-10-17 Thread Bruce Perens
The HP CDR drive was designed and manufactured by Philips. It has slightly
different firmware. I'd suggest the Yamaha.

Bruce
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Re: scroll-back buffer

1997-10-17 Thread Bruce Perens
Excuse my naivete, but won't printing a bunch of blank lines clear it?

Thanks

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Re: From Slackware to Debian

1997-10-17 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Fri, 17 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My install Problems. ...
 Well IT DONT WORK!!
 How I installed it -
 ...
- I did NOT have the packages.gz file.

This is the problem. Dselect needs to have a structure like this:

path/to/debian/basedir/
  \__stable
 \__binary-all
 \__binary-i386
\__Packages.gz
  \__non-free  (with the same structure, optional)
  \__contrib   (with the same structure, optional)

You got to prepare a situation like above (You can hack around it with
symlinks, I did that today, worked well). The Packages.gz can contain more
entries than you have, so don't worry if you leave out X or other
packages. But dselect gets all its information from there. (Think about an
ftp install, would be too much to scan all directories and then getting
the information for all packages separately).

Then you step through menuentry 1, 2, 3, and then you got to cycle
randomly between 4 (install) and 5 (configure).

(*here's a difference between slack and deb: in slackware you configure
the package before installing it, in debian you install it and then
configure it. Okk, in slackware you config, make, install, config,
config, config. *grin*  ok, not funny. sorry.)

 * I copied the boot directory to the dos machine
   and ran rebooted from there.
 
 The Install seemed to run OK.  I thought I selected all
 the required packages.  (it seemed it be able to pick up all
 the available packages even when I did not have package.gz)
 I thought it would install the  the packages with a * character
 ( in dselect).
 However when I rebooted it only had 18MB installed and
 no man no less no nothing.

I think it's because there's no Package.gz. You can still select the
packages, but they're somewhat like unavailable in this state. when you
run 1. [U]pdate list of available packages after setting 
0. [A]ccess  Choose the access method to use. to mounted, you should
be ready to go.

 I tried running dselect again and zippo nada nothing gets installed.
 I must be missing something simple

What exactly looked the errors you got like? (run dselect | tee if you
can't write so fast, there's no logfile *gulp* )

 ** Another question is with the NE2000 install.
 ** An another problem is that once I Installed Linux I could not
   my DOS partition anymore. The install routine did not give me

can't help with this. sorry. anyone?

 I was also planning to put several partitions on the hardisk
 there was some documentation with some suggested
 partition sizes for a 1.6 gig hardisk.

I am relatively new to linux. I am asking back: What is bad about one big
partition? I have it like that, I am flexible as hell, and have no clear
problems with it. 

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Re: From Slackware to Debian

1997-10-17 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Lukas Eppler wrote:

 I am relatively new to linux. I am asking back: What is bad about one big
 partition? I have it like that, I am flexible as hell, and have no clear
 problems with it. 

Well,  if you wanted to export part of your drive (say /usr) to another
machine so that machine didn't have to have all that stuff installed
locally,  it's tough.

Also,  some people like to mount directories such as /usr,  (soon /etc),
read-only so that they can't get accidentally fuggled with by doing screwy
things as root,   etc.

I do it because if something goes wrong,  I can fsck one part of the tree
(one partition) much faster than I can fsck the whole darn thing.

Will

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Re: scroll-back buffer

1997-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Torsten Hilbrich wrote:
 Another way:
 
 runvc false
 
 where runvc is the following script:
 
#!/bin/sh
# Run something on a VC, from X, and switch back to X when done.
# GPL Joey Hess, Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:27:08 -0400
exec open -s -- sh -c $* ; chvt `getvc`

Hm, maybe I should include runvc and getvc in the open package (which I
happen to maintain).

BTW, since you are already at the console, you don't need to use all this,
the following command will flip you breifly to a free vt and back, which
does clear the scrollback buffer (neat trick!):

open -s -w false

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Re: CDR drive replacement.

1997-10-17 Thread John Goerzen
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have used Philips CDRs exclusively and have not been satisfied. For the
 usual reasons, I am replacing my current CDR and want something that will
 last a while. I can get an HP SureStore CD-Writer 6020 for a
 reasonable price. I am curious if anyone has had any first hand
 experience with this device? Is it encouraging? I would consider other
 options if they fall in the catagory of cheap (cost effective) and
 dependable, while at the same time available quickly through mail order
 using a credit card.

I have the HP SureStore 6020i drive.  As its model number suggests, it
is 6x read, 2x write.

For writing, I use the cdrecord program.  It works flawlessly, even
writing multi-session CDs and it even works from a master on an IDE
drive.

cwrite also works with this drive, BUT...  it won't do multisession,
and it is much, much more system-intensive than cdrecord is.  cdwrite
barely works with an IDE drive at 1x record speed; cdrecord easily
works with my IDE drive at 2x record speed.

For reading, you need to do a tad bit more up-front.  It will read
normal CDs without any problem.  However, you must patch the kernel to
get the drive to read multi-session CDs.  Once the kernel is so
patched, however, it is able to read multi-session CDs without any
difficulty at all.  (Actually, this patch is included in 2.1.x and
maybe even in 2.0.30 but I know it isn't in 2.0.29.)

I have had good luck with this drive with all sorts of various media.
I have not experienced any problems with data loss on any media, as
sometimes occurs with CDR drives.  I have used both the genuine HP
media and the cheap Pioneer media without difficulty.


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Re: Where is xload program?

1997-10-17 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote:

 I am looking for xload package and I don't know where it is?

It's in the xproc package.

 How can I find out where it is w/o having to waste bandwidth?

There are Contents.gz files in the same locations as the binary-i386-dirs
on every mirror.
 
 and secondly why don't they just leave xload alone?

You can probably ask the maintainer. Maybe the old all-in-one-package got
too big.

Maintainer: Helmut Geyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It seems that the source package is still procps for xproc and procps
binaries. It got splitted not long ago.

Gruss
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Re: CDR drive replacement.

1997-10-17 Thread Danny ter Haar
According to Bruce Perens:
 The HP CDR drive was designed and manufactured by Philips. It has slightly
 different firmware. I'd suggest the Yamaha.

We always used the Yamaha 102 writer and worked fine for us.
This week we purchased the CDR400T (6x4) from Yamaha.
So far we have been unable to get xcdroast to work with it.
reading is no problem, writing is (audio and digital).
Will try cdwrite manually this weekend.

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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-17 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

   #define AWE_DEFAULT_BASE_ADDR 0x620 /* base port address */
   #define AWE_DEFAULT_MEM_SIZE  4096   /* kbytes */
   
   Then it should work.
  
  Done, but I still get this with kernel 2.0.30:  AWE32 Sound Driver v0.3.3e
  (DRAM 28672k)
 
 This is awkward. You should test it with the new version, too. awe-drv is
 actually at 0.4.2c (you can find the location in my HOWTO).
 
 Note that the sources coming with kernel 2.1.55 in the lowlevel directory
 are version 0.3.1! This is very old, and everything can break.
 
 Oh, one more: 0.4.2c does support dynamically loaded sample fonts, so you
 can use the 4 Megabyte bank with 2 Megabyte RAM on the card. Obviously, you
 can try the 8 MB with 4MB on card,...

Ok, I'll get the latest awe-drv at a Debian mirror. Thank you Marcus!

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free software

1997-10-17 Thread Tim Sailer
I was wondering if there was any software out there that would do
the job of the microsoft ils servers that netmeeting use. We have
a very small group that wants to set up a semi-private network
and use netmeeting for documentation purposes..

Tim

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innxmit help?

1997-10-17 Thread Timothy Phan
Hi,

  I've just reinstall the debian 1.3.1 and I apparently have missed
  some setup somehow.  How, the innxmit always give me this problem:


--8
$ /usr/lib/news/bin/innxmit -d localhost /var/lib/news/batch.news.dhc.net.479

 200 news.James.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.5.1deb 21-Aug-1997 ready 
(posting ok).
mode stream
 500 What?
 ihave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 480 Transfer permission denied
Nothing sent -- leaving batchfile alone.
--8

  I'd like to know what have I missed that would caused the permission
  denied problem.

  Thanks!
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Re: sql database

1997-10-17 Thread Oliver Elphick
Timothy Phan wrote:
  Hi,
  
Has anyone done any benchmark/comparison between these databases?
  mSQL, MySQL, PostGres95
in term of performance, application interfaces such as perl, tcl,
and drivers such as odbc, jdbc, etc.

There have been some comparisons on the PostgreSQL mailing lists.  These
are archived somewhere at www.postgresql.org.

With regard to PostgreSQL at least, you should try to ensure that you are
comparing like with like. PostgreSQL has many capabilities that other free
databases don't.  However, it has to sacrifice some speed to get them.

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Re: free software

1997-10-17 Thread Keith Beattie
Tim Sailer wrote:

 I was wondering if there was any software out there that would do
 the job of the microsoft ils servers that netmeeting use. We have
 a very small group that wants to set up a semi-private network
 and use netmeeting for documentation purposes..
 

Severs? We don't need no stinkin' servers! Use multicast!

Seriously though, I'm not terribly familiar with all the functionality
of netmeeting but at my first glance, it appeared to have taken quite
a few hints from the MBone tools that Van Jacobson's group at LBL has
been working on.  You may want to take a look at:
http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/

We used their vic (video conference), vat (audio conference), wb
(whiteboard), and sdr (session directory) quite extensively (when I
was at LBL).  Sharing applications though, I'm not sure about.  wb can
be used for static images and text but I haven't seen much enabling a
group to collaborate on a spreadsheet or word processor document.  But
one never knows...  I haven't been keeping up on the latest mbone
developments.

A good collection of pointers on all things MBone can also be found
at: http://www-itg.lbl.gov/mbone/#reflinks

Luck!
Keith

ps - I'd be curious to know what you do decide to go with, if you could
drop me a note...


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Re: free software

1997-10-17 Thread Tim Sailer
Keith Beattie wrote:
 
 Severs? We don't need no stinkin' servers! Use multicast!

Nope. I need to use the 'off the shelf' Microsnot product.

 Seriously though, I'm not terribly familiar with all the functionality
 of netmeeting but at my first glance, it appeared to have taken quite
 a few hints from the MBone tools that Van Jacobson's group at LBL has
 been working on.  You may want to take a look at:
 http://www-nrg.ee.lbl.gov/

I'm very familiar with the mbone suite. This indeed is very similar to
it, but for Microsoft platforms.

 We used their vic (video conference), vat (audio conference), wb
 (whiteboard), and sdr (session directory) quite extensively (when I
 was at LBL).  Sharing applications though, I'm not sure about.  wb can
 be used for static images and text but I haven't seen much enabling a
 group to collaborate on a spreadsheet or word processor document.  But
 one never knows...  I haven't been keeping up on the latest mbone
 developments.
 
 A good collection of pointers on all things MBone can also be found
 at: http://www-itg.lbl.gov/mbone/#reflinks

Yup. It's been in my bookmarks for quite some time.
 ps - I'd be curious to know what you do decide to go with, if you could
 drop me a note...

Will do.

Just to satisfy everyone's curiosity, this is for our emergency response
team here at BNL. If there is ever an 'incident', they have a command
bunker that is only accessable via deeply buried copper for phone. We are
convinceing them to give up 2 pair and we can put in ADSL. Right now
they are using it for a 2400 'leased' type line. They are only running
MS products, and will need to collaborate with parties at other points
in the Lab and the world. As typical with government thinking, they placed
this 'secure' bunker abotu 100 yds from one of the reactors that could
cause the abovementioned 'incident'. Me, I'd get upwind as soon as possible
:)

Tim


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Re: /dev/md0

1997-10-17 Thread Pere Camps
Phil,

 This is because you created you mdtab by hand, and not with mdcreate. 
 Mdcreate computes a checksum and puts it in the mdtab.  When mdrunning a
 md partition, the checksum is computed and is compared to the one stored
 in the mdtab. If they're different, the md device isn't started. 

Thanks for the information. I'll be running mdcreate in a minute.

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exim / mh problems

1997-10-17 Thread Ken Lauffenburger
Hello,

I have been running sendmail on my machine at home for a long time
with few problems.  I use mh and exmh, and sometimes elm.

When I recently installed Debian on a machine at work I decided to try
exim instead of sendmail.  I liked it so I replaced sendmail with exim
on my machine at home.

Now I am having some problems on my home machine.  I can send mail
fine using elm, but when I try to send a message using mh, I get the
following:

leisure:~ send
Use /home/ken/Mail/drafts/2? y
post: problem initializing server; [BHST] no servers available
send: message not delivered to anyone

The exim process is running in daemon mode; I can see it using ps.

Another problem is with incoming mail.  I use fetchmail to retrieve
mail from my Debian machine (flounder) at work which runs qpopper.
I believe flounder is configured properly because this worked great
when sendmail was installed at home.

This is what I get when I try to fetch mail:

leisure:~ fetchmail -v
fetchmail: 3.8.0 querying flounder.efficient.com (protocol POP3) at Fri Oct 17 
08:13:53 1997
fetchmail: POP3 +OK QPOP (version 2.2) at flounder.efficient.com starting.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: POP3 USER ken
fetchmail: POP3 +OK Password required for ken.
fetchmail: POP3 PASS *

 ... [lines skipped]

skipping message 113 not flushed
skipping message 114 not flushed
skipping message 115 not flushed
skipping message 116 not flushed
skipping message 117 not flushed
fetchmail: POP3 RETR 118
fetchmail: POP3 +OK 4242 octets
reading message 118 (4242 bytes)
fetchmail: SMTP connect to (null) failed
fetchmail: POP3 QUIT
fetchmail: POP3 On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 10:58:12PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli 
wrote:
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from flounder.efficient.com
fetchmail: normal termination, status 9


It appears that I am having some problem establishing SMTP connections.
Can anyone suggest what I should check to figure this out?

Thanks.

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Re: Booting to SCSI

1997-10-17 Thread Marc A. Volovic

 Hey everyone!
 
 Simple (hopefully) question.  I've got an IDE drive on an Tyan
 motherboard with an Award BIOS.  I recently went out and bought a
 Seagate Cheetah drive on a Symbios Logic (aka NCR) 53c875 host
 adapter (an AWESOME combination, BTW g) How do I make the system
 boot from the SCSI drive instead of the IDE drive?

Tyan, likewise, supports booting from SCSI in newer versions of the BIOS.
At least for S1563D, it does. Since you do not specify what board you
have, I hope I am not misleading you.

However, IFF your version of the board and Award BIOS will NOT boot SCSI
(again, I suggest you check before doing the appended), you can swap
the Award BIOS for MR-BIOS which _does_ allow such tricks (among other
things, it also allows you to have four floppies, eight IDE drives, RAID-0
and RAID-1 from BIOS and other weird things). I am NOT fond of MR-BIOS for
quite a few reasons (a Chabad prayer embedded in the strings being a very
significant one :-), but it WILL provide a solution.

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