Re: Grep... in Debian 2.0
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Carroll Kong wrote: Doh... ok. I vaguely remember someone speaking of this problem before.. but my grep is dead. Should I get the old package and install it? The newone... although it seems to work.. once I try grep text string * it does not return anything? Have I been using this the wrong way before? It worked fine that way before Upgrade to the latest, 2.1-8. It's fixed. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
19980414 Work-Needing and Prospective Packages
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: prospective-packages.html,v 1.10 1998/04/14 23:37:33 johnie Exp $ This document is intended to identify areas that need your contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite often, so it supplements the regular Debian Developer documentation: [1]http://www.debian.org/developers_corner.html. This document provides the current list of packages which are either: * orphaned, * withdrawn from the unstable distribution, * maintained but its developer would like to find a new person, * currently being worked on to include in the distribution, and * good ideas -- they would be nice to have, but no one is yet working on them. New versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP: * [2]http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html * [3]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-p ackages.txt * [4]ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/prospective-p ackages.html Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to the WNPP maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Please mention which version of this document your comments refer. Try to change the subject of your mail to reflect the packages you're talking about, it makes it easier for to sort out all Re: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages emails. A suggested subject line reads WNPP: removing foopackage or WNPP: working on barpackage. Thanks. _ Recent Changes Since version 1998/04/07 The pdftex program is now uploaded (as part of tetex). Packages needing a new maintainer * The xpdf package, offered by Dirk Eddelbuettel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) needs a free-world maintainer so it can support encrypted PDF files. * The omniORB package is offered by Robert Resendes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Packages adopted * The dosfstools package is adopted by Roman Hodek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). * The ntfs package is adopted by Damjan Marion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Packages being created * VAT (the LBNL audio tool), the xmmix package, the xrn newsreader, the f77reorder , and nt (a mbone shared text editor) are being packaged by Alex Romosan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). * Nessus is being packaged by Nils Lohner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). * The jstation suite for amateur radio ground stations is being packaged by Bdale Garbee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). * The sfio package is being created by Dennis Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). * Chamelion, a program that uses GTK and imlib to draw into the root window, is being packaged by Shaleh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). * The tcputils pakcage is being created by Bjoern Brenander ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). * Packages for xfont3d and xfpovray are being created by Matt Pavlovich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). * The CODA distributed filesystem tools are being packaged by Anders Hammarquist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Packages someone could package for Debian 2.1 * BeroFTPD 1.0.1, a wu-ftpd derived ftp server program. * The Emacs module for perl, perlmacs. _ Orphaned packages An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer. Please inform the WNPP maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) via e-mail: * when you find that you need to orphan a package, * when you believe that the following list is incomplete, or * when you would like to maintain one of these packages. To correct the developer recorded for a package, inform the override file maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The following packages are orphaned: By the Debian QA Group (debian-qa@lists.debian.org): * 9wm -- An emulation of the Plan 9 window manager 8-1/2 * bibindex -- fast lookup in BibTeX bibliography data bases * latex2rtf -- LaTeX text to RTF format translator * libtclobjc -- development library * mcvert -- Tool to deal with specially encoded Macintosh files (non-free) * objpak -- An Objective-C collection class library * pari -- A package for number theorists (non-free) * paridoc -- The documentation and examples for the PARI system (non-free) * rc -- An implementation of the ATT Plan 9 shell. * sam -- A plan9 derived text editor * xabacus -- Implementation of the classic Chinese abacus * xbattle -- A concurrent multi-player battle strategy game * xmcpustate -- Displays
procmail question
Hi all there! I just set-up my .procmailrc (Many thanks to Oliver Elphick). But I have big mailbox (/var/spool/mail/) I want to process w. procmail. Can anybody tell me how? Thanks. Ax -- Vaclav Hula [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~ax -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grep... in Debian 2.0
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 06:56:38PM -0400, Carroll Kong wrote: Doh... ok. I vaguely remember someone speaking of this problem before.. but my grep is dead. Should I get the old package and install it? The newone... although it seems to work.. once I try grep text string * it does not return anything? Have I been using this the wrong way before? It worked fine that way before Only bad is 2.1-6, every other version is fine. You did everything correct. the bad one just returns. Ever. Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wanted !!! : elf-x11r6lib de@d or @live :)
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 10:35:52PM +0200, Pierre Dupuis wrote: Hello, to install Tkrat, I need something called elf-x11r6lib, i've looked all around debian ftp site and don't found it :,( If someone know where can i get it :) You can safely ignore this dependency. elf-x11r6lib is a virtual package that is no longer needed. Use dpkg -i --force-depends package to froce the installation. Marcus You could also use the equivs package to make a fake elf-x11r6lib package.. Sometimes it's nice to get rid of dselect's constant warning about some packages.. :) -Paul P.S. I've never used equivs, so I might be wrong.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: procmail question
Hi all there! I just set-up my .procmailrc (Many thanks to Oliver Elphick). But I have big mailbox (/var/spool/mail/) I want to process w. procmail. Can anybody tell me how? Try the procmail and procmailex (examples) man or info (better yet) pages. They are some of the better-written documents I've seen! Oh... and read the /usr/doc/procmail directory (.gz files with the zless command) first! The examples in the procmailex page should be most helpful, then more specific questions will be easier to get answers for. You'll do fine! Art Thanks. Ax -- Vaclav Hula [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~ax -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Viewing pdf files
Hi, I want to view a pdf file, so I used xpdf but got the following: $ xpdf cgtntk.pdf xpdf version 0.6 Copyright 1996 Derek B. Noonburg Error: PDF file is encrypted and cannot be displayed Error: * Decryption support is currently not included in xpdf Error: * due to legal restrictions: the U.S.A. still has bogus Error: * export controls on cryptography software. Error: Couldn't read xref table Any ideas on how I can view this file without going to windows 95? Cheers, Mark. __ _\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/ \__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ \__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/ \__/_\__/--\__/__/ /__To be is to do.__I. Kant___/ \__/__\__/___/ /__To do is to be.__A. Sartre_/ /__I am.God___/ /__Jesus did.___/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Viewing pdf files
Mark Phillips wrote: I want to view a pdf file, so I used xpdf but got the following: $ xpdf cgtntk.pdf xpdf version 0.6 Copyright 1996 Derek B. Noonburg Error: PDF file is encrypted and cannot be displayed Error: * Decryption support is currently not included in xpdf Error: * due to legal restrictions: the U.S.A. still has bogus Error: * export controls on cryptography software. Error: Couldn't read xref table Any ideas on how I can view this file without going to windows 95? Try installing the acroread package. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How can I add the 3rd ethernet card ?
Hi, I use a PC linux machine with 2 ethernet cards. (one for eth0, the other for eth1). And now, I want to add third ethernet card. It is recognized as eht2 at my machine, but when I tried to following command, /sbin/ifconfig eth2 123.123.123.123 broadcast 123.123.123.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 it prints following error message. SIOCSIFFLAGS: Try again Do you know what the problem is ? Thanks in advance. stellar begin: vcard fn: Stellar R'espree n: R'espree;Stellar org:SoftForum email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: procmail question
Art Lemasters wrote: Try the procmail and procmailex (examples) man or info (better yet) pages. They are some of the better-written documents I've seen! Oh... and read the /usr/doc/procmail directory (.gz files with the zless command) first! The examples in the procmailex page should be most helpful, then more specific questions will be easier to get answers for. You'll do fine! I think his question was I have mail I already received, how do I get it filtered? The answer: formail, a program that comes with procmail. Basicly, you will move oyur /var/spool/mail/user file to a temp file, rm the /var/spool/mial/user, and then cat the temp file throuch formail, which will remail it all. Look at formail(1) for the command line options. Carl -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The sun's not eternal That's why there's the blues... -- Ginsburg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp Questions.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 08:23:36PM -0500, Petra Kevin J Poorman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, I installed pppconfig, configured my ppp setup for my ISP and got pon to work, VS, my old one line script that was broken by the ppp. Now when i dial my isp I find these messages in my syslog: Apr 13 19:22:30 petra pppd[11431]: local IP address 209.113.53.194 Apr 13 19:22:30 petra pppd[11431]: remote IP address 209.113.55.254 Apr 13 19:23:00 petra pppd[11431]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x7df7] Apr 13 19:23:00 petra pppd[11431]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x0] Apr 13 19:23:30 petra pppd[11431]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0x7df7] Apr 13 19:23:30 petra pppd[11431]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0x0] Could anyone tell me what this means?... This means that you have the official IP adress 209.113.53.194. At this time, people could try to telnet your machine from anywhere in the internet. This adress is a dynamically assigned valid IP adress. So, if you have apache web server installed, people could even point netscape at http://209.113.53.194, and see your locally installed web pages ;) You connected to host 209.113.55.254, which is the server that you diald-in. I knew about the IP stuff what I was wondering was wether or not this stuff: Apr 13 19:23:00 petra pppd[11431]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x7df7] was healthy, and by the way it INVAIDS my syslog, but flooding it, I couldn't see how it could be heathly... so I thought I would ask about how to fix it, meaning how to get pppd to stop flooding my syslog, with information I can't make heads or tails of Guess I shouldn't e-mail past midnight, I lose mental corodonation, and prowess. The next four lines just give information about transferred packages. What do you mean by transferd packages? How to fix it?... also is there a Nothing wrong here. I think you can remove debug from your ppp config file. I don't know how much less verbose ppp would get then... Ah, so thats what it is... Debug information, in what config file would I find the debug line in order to remove it? way to get ppp to tell me how fast it has conected to my ISP at?... Sorry, don't remember. Probably I never knew ;) Well another kind Debian Developer (Thanks John) said this: Add a REPORT string to /etc/chatscripts/provider, like this: REPORT CONNECT And tell chat where to put the report string by giving it the '-r' option in /etc/ppp/peers/provider, like this: connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -r /etc/ppp/report -f /etc/chatscripts/provider Now just read /etc/ppp/report to see everything that the modem reported when it connected. - -K -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNTQEzxsA5GylAiwdAQHUXQL+LWopAFjNomJ/noAAXZ7TZSaRR0WSmN4w EyKBD7K4PlqjNc+pQAlgc5UosApad1RkbDRhEAsTCf3BPn+IG9dt0H8taDZhwuKh 1k7NcuNxd621ktu4ZaJv/D8ePyTaBnHr =IBIS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Assistance
On behalf of Stephen J. Carpenter: I have not gotten an e-mail off of my server since the computer went down Thursday 4/9/98, so I would appreciate replies directed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My computer went down Thursday due to hardware related problems. I replaced the Motherboard and am still having problems. I believe that the problems are related to the new Motherboard. I've tried swapping the processors and various other parts of the computer. Analytical procedure was as follows: 1. Boot MS-DOS. 2. Run the boot batch file off of the Debianv1.3r6 installation CD 3. The install is fine, including fdisk, format and bad block check. 4. Unfortunately it will not boot! 5. I boot the installation disk and go to the second virtual terminal and run E2FSCK -F /dev /HDA Result: File system errors... otherwise, the computer is fine. Someone who checked this motherboard installed windows 95 properly The board is a Biosys 8500 TTD (TX Chipset) I have no info for the IDE chipset or settings. Any info you might have would be greatly appreciated. -Thanx, SJC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dselect fails?
Hm... sorry for bothering everyone with my feeble questions... but after installing Debian 2.0... i try running dselect, and everytime I try to get files, it say file does not exist blah blah blah... I updated my database across the ftp.debian.org with the hamm contrib non-free. Is this wrong? Any ideas guys? I am pretty sure the links really do work and exist, I tried to trace them myself. Not that I mind running around in ncftp and dpkg -i deb.deb packages myself.. but it would be nice. :) Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dselect fails?
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Carroll Kong wrote: after installing Debian 2.0... i try running dselect, and everytime I try to get files, it say file does not exist blah blah blah... I updated my database across the ftp.debian.org with the hamm contrib non-free. Is this wrong? Any Did it say it correctly found the packages.gz files? And did you answer YES to the Download required files? question? Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dselect fails?
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Carroll Kong wrote: Hm... sorry for bothering everyone with my feeble questions... but after installing Debian 2.0... i try running dselect, and everytime I try to get files, it say file does not exist blah blah blah... I updated my database across the ftp.debian.org with the hamm contrib non-free. Is this wrong? Any ideas guys? I am pretty sure the links really do work and exist, I tried to trace them myself. Not that I mind running around in ncftp and dpkg -i deb.deb packages myself.. but it would be nice. :) Use dists/frozen/main dists/frozen/contrib dists/frozen/non-free. It works fine for me. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another Debian 2.0 Question - GMT
Okay... this is getting semi-annoying, I do not know why my clock automagically changes back about 4 hours behind.. maybe 5. My local clock is fine, it worked fine in Debian 1.3R6, but after installing Debian 2.0 (upgrading), it changed into some odd time. I think it has something to do with /usr/lib/zoneinfo/localtime but it is a weird binary? Can I turn my clock back to Eastern Standard Time? Or does anyone know why it is doing this? Does hwclock -a $GMT have anything to do with it (this is in my /etc/init.d/boot). Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where did my init.d/boot go?
On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Mirek Kwasniak wrote: On Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 11:42:50PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since hamm was frozen, I started the process of updating my bo system. I've been running hamm now for a week or so, and using FTP to update all of my out-of-date packages. Last night I installed some of the new packages, ( of which the only important one I remember was sysvinit ), and when I rebooted my system, I was no longer able to open a tty, and thus even though I logged in, and Linux validated my password, it was unable to give me a shell. After examining the boot messages, and seeing a line that said 'unable to find /etc/init.d/boot', I booted up from a beautiful little slackware rescue disk, and saw that my boot was now boot.OLD. How do I find out what package did this? I assume that whatever package moved my boot to boot.OLD, was intending to write a new file. Do I need this new boot file? My system seems to be running fine w/ my old boot. Your install is broken by buggy grep 2.1-6. I got the same result but I upgrade a copy of my system :) Get grep 2.1-7 and maybe reinstall all packages by hand (whith: dpkg -i). No, these are two different problems. grep_2.1-6 is severely broken and should be replaced by a newer version. The boot.OLD file is not a bug or an error, it is intended behaviour. The /etc/init.d/boot script has bee split up into several scripts. Take a look in /etc/rcS.d/ to see what it run in which order ar boot time. If your sysvinit is really broken, you can boot Linux directly into bash. At the LILO boot prompt, type linux init=/bin/bash This will load bash instead of init, so you get a root shell with no questions asked. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID configuration in hamm install?
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: Hi all, I'm novice to RAID, and I want to try with it. I would like to know if hamm provices in its installation the tools to setup a RAID0 (stripping) installation. Also I would like to know if the menu for installation has RAID0 configuration options Thanks in advance, Ulisses PD: Does debian.org ships hamm? Sorry for the late reply, I am catching up with the mailing list. Yes, hamm has tools for RAID0. You'll want the mdutils package, which contains all tools you need. I don't know about the standard kernel, you might have to compile your own with support for MD and RAID0 turned on. I don't think there is a menu that configures the whole thing for you, but it is not difficult to do it by hand. Basically, you do this: 1. get a kernel that supports RAID0 (and boot it). 2. instal the mdutils package. 3. choose the partitions (or whole disks) that will form the RAID0 device. for example, say these are /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdc3 4. run these commands: # mdcreate raid0 /dev/md0 /dev/hda1 /dev/hdc3 # mdadd -ar # mke2fs /dev/md0 5. mount the RAID0 partition where you want it. Note, that it will be difficult to get the root filesystem on the RAID0 device since the RAID0 device is only active after the mdadd program is run (Debian does this automatically at boot time if you have configured any MD devices). This is approximately how my setup used to be when I had a RAID0 device: DOS partition: /dev/hda1 extended partition: /dev/hda2 root file system: /dev/hda5 RAID0 system: /dev/hda6 and /dev/hdc2 swap: /dev/hda7 and /dev/hdc1 RAID0 device mounted on /mddrive /mddrive contains home, usr and var root filesystem contains symlinks for /home, /usr and /var For more (detailed) information, look at these documents on a Debian system: /usr/doc/HOWTO/Root-RAID-HOWTO.gz /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Software-RAID.gz and the man pages for mdadd, mdcreate, etc. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #157
Hello cam, How lucky you are, because, I've got a PS/2 a 8580 model 386 processor, with SCSI controller, no ESDI, and I'm unable to install the CDRom :( what kind of configuration are you using ? Subject: Help with a PS/2 mouse and X11 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:41:49 -0500 From: Cam Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org I installed off of the 1.3.1 CD's, and haven't been able to get my mouse to work with anything yet. (What program's could I test with besides X11?) The mouse is a PS/2 style Logitech Mouseman 3 button mouse. I went into XF86Config and tried the following settings: mouse protocol: mouseman (also tried microsoft) mouse device: /dev/ttys0 (also tried /dev/mouse) baud rate: 1200 I get no response from the mouse cursor on screen after applying these settings. After reading a couple of how-to faqs, I also tried gpm -k before running XF86Config. I don't think this is the problem though since it seems to be using my com1 port. (which has nothing attaching to it). Can anyone tell me what I'm missing? Cam Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN: 545211 -- (PD: We have an agreement with God, He doesn't fix programs and we don't make miracles. ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SyQuest internal IDE 1GB disk?
I found what Marcus was talking about at Mega Haus http://www.megahaus.com Here is the description of it: Part of the DataPort Removable Bracket Family. DataPort IDE removable hard drive kit. Complete kit includes 3.5 IDE plastic cartridge and a metal IDE receiving frame. Receiving frame mounts in 5 1/4 drive bay. Mount IDE 3.5 hard drive in cartridge and insert cartridge into receiving frame. It's that easy! Built in cooling fan helps keep your drive COOL. If you need to use multiple drives in one computer, just use as many extra cartridges as you need. If you need to use the same drive in different computers, use as many extra frames as you need. On 13-Apr-98 Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Do you need to switch the computer off to plug the HD? I could imagine that this isn't the best solution for all people. I remember a german computer vendor VOBIS having 5 1/4 cases and removeable HD to plug in / out. I think it wasn't the great success (never saw them again). What about DDT-2/3 ? Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- E-Mail: Mark Ciciretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14-Apr-98 Time: 22:02:25 -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New drive---lilo warning
Hi, I have just installed a third IDE hard drive (my board supports up to 4). I have configured the BIOS. Now I want to use lilo to make it possible to boot from it (it currently has DOS on it), but when I try, it comes up with: # lilo Added linux * Added dos ide: probable bad entry for /dev/hdc ide: to fix it, run: /usr/src/linux/scripts/MAKEDEV.ide Warning: BIOS drive 0x82 may not be accessible ide: probable bad entry for /dev/hdc ide: to fix it, run: /usr/src/linux/scripts/MAKEDEV.ide Warning: BIOS drive 0x82 may not be accessible Added dad I don't know whether to believe its explanation. I suspect something else might be wrong. Any ideas? Mark. P.S. My lilo.conf is the following: boot=/dev/hda compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 # Linux bootable partition config begins image=/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 label=linux read-only # Linux bootable partition config ends # DOS bootable partition config begins other = /dev/hdb1 label = dos loader = /boot/any_d.b table = /dev/hdb # DOS bootable partition config ends # DOS bootable partition config begins other = /dev/hdc1 label = dad loader = /boot/any_d.b table = /dev/hdc # DOS bootable partition config ends __ _\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/ \__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ \__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/ \__/_\__/--\__/__/ /__To be is to do.__I. Kant___/ \__/__\__/___/ /__To do is to be.__A. Sartre_/ /__I am.God___/ /__Jesus did.___/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrading to hamm
Hi, I am currently running a debian bo system, and I am considering upgrading (or more to the point - re-installing) to a hamm system. I am, however, conserned about stablility... Does anyone know of any major problems with a hamm system? Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape and Mozilla both choke on bookmark operations
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Alan Eugene Davis wrote: I have a large netscape bookmark file of several hundred bookmarks. Manipulating these has become a pain. Whenever I edit bookmarks---in either Netscape 4.03 or a Mozilla package from a couple weeks ago---and try to change to sort by last access, Netscape goes berzerk. The graphics on the netscape window fail to refresh within some minutes, and both netscape and mozilla in these cases become totally unuseable. This may not solve your problem-- but I created my private HTML page on my disk of interesting (to me links). This supplements my book mark file. Useful maybe B if you do not constantly add and delete bookmarks. King Lee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Faster swap by using separate disk?
I have been wondering about whether putting a swap partition on one IDE drive, while putting most of linux on a different IDE drive will speed up swap by allowing both disks to be accessed at the same time. Unfortunately I think I read somewhere that when you have a Master/Slave IDE pair, only one of the disks can be accessed at any one time, so that having the swap partition on a separate disk doesn't help. However my motherboard is capable of using 4 ide devices. It has two pairs: Primary Master/Primary Slave and Secondary Master/Secondary Slave What if I put linux on one of the primary disks, and the swap partition on a secondary disk, will that mean both disks can be accessed at the same time, hence giving a swap speedup? Thanks, Mark. __ _\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/ \__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ \__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/ \__/_\__/--\__/__/ /__To be is to do.__I. Kant___/ \__/__\__/___/ /__To do is to be.__A. Sartre_/ /__I am.God___/ /__Jesus did.___/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Upgrading to hamm
Only on systems that have run 2.0.33. All systems running 2.0.32 are fine. There are none of the problems that Red Hat has been having with its 5.0 release. I'd like more info about kernel 2.0.33. We have a linux box running 2.0.33 and nearly all packets from hamm, and I afraid... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Upgrading to hamm
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Angel Vicente Perez wrote: Only on systems that have run 2.0.33. All systems running 2.0.32 are fine. There are none of the problems that Red Hat has been having with its 5.0 release. I'd like more info about kernel 2.0.33. We have a linux box running 2.0.33 and nearly all packets from hamm, and I afraid... I have trouble with 2.0 kernels and my hardware.. I've previously had 2.1.83 working fine on a bo installation. For a whole variety of reasons, I have to reinstall, and I'd like to do so with hamm.. does anyone know of any problems with the newest kernels (2.1.94?) and hamm? I'll also ask again if anyone knows what I should do to make a bootable hamm installation CD. thanks erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Viewing pdf files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi Mark! This not answer your question, but... Did you tried with gv, it's also a gs frontend but much nicer and _useful_ regards, Ulisses - - Computers are useless. They can only give answers.Pablo Picasso -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: latin1 Comment: PGP public key avaliable at http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver iQB1AwUBNTRkLg/N+5+NQ63pAQEXcwL/TxP2SqgkvOGbh9GP86rmOml0QZ2rqNvx jAMcfrbIOdCLQG5CdEXwY47jLp1eyI2H9fOaGIGpzz+/R6NhHMsIXLhs4UIP86t/ J+Gt1Ton4EcubETGYpDTSafjwD7vQnhc =Uvyq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Viewing pdf files
This not answer your question, but... Did you tried with gv, it's also a gs frontend but much nicer and _useful_ Yes I did try, but it didn't work. Cheers, Mark. __ _\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/ \__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ \__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/ \__/_\__/--\__/__/ /__To be is to do.__I. Kant___/ \__/__\__/___/ /__To do is to be.__A. Sartre_/ /__I am.God___/ /__Jesus did.___/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID configuration in hamm install?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Remco! On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: Hi all, I'm novice to RAID, and I want to try with it. I would like to know if hamm provices in its installation the tools to setup a RAID0 (stripping) installation. Also I would like to know if the menu for installation has RAID0 configuration options Thanks in advance, Ulisses PD: Does debian.org ships hamm? Sorry for the late reply, I am catching up with the mailing list. Thanks for your reply! :-) Your info is great for me! ...but... you have make a mistake ;-) in hamm mdutils has been replaced by raidtools Yes, hamm has tools for RAID0. You'll want the mdutils package, which contains all tools you need. I don't know about the standard kernel, you might have to compile your own with support for MD and RAID0 turned on. I don't think there is a menu that configures the whole thing for you, but it is not difficult to do it by hand. Basically, you do this: [...] Regards, Ulisses - - Computers are useless. They can only give answers.Pablo Picasso -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: latin1 Comment: PGP public key avaliable at http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver iQB1AwUBNTRl+Q/N+5+NQ63pAQHBpgMAmeB0DVGhuy/zgocr+2vm1CB24xMV5+Z4 qp5V84hE2sMqt1aHiVh0v8JB8MPKwS8tV39crezvNXGlOKbHzzwpI+fDkOK95nMq G6e/fdF86wIibZG3Frb06T6n9JyeH5jA =f+1Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp Questions.
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 07:52:25PM -0500, Petra Kevin J Poorman wrote: I knew about the IP stuff what I was wondering was wether or not this stuff: Apr 13 19:23:00 petra pppd[11431]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x7df7] was healthy It's normal. These are packages that the ppp demons on both sides send when the line is otherwise idle, to ensure that the link is still up. There is a ppp option to terminate a session if too many of these echo requests go unanswered. Just switch debug off to get rid of these messages. Nils -- *-* | Quotes from the net: L Linus Torvalds, W Winfried Truemper | | Lthis is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 | | WUmh, oh. What do you mean by special easter release?. Will it quit | * Wworking today and rise on easter? * pgp9V8fvV2Fmm.pgp Description: PGP signature
equal interrupts
hi everybody, i have a problem with my pci-bios : it assigns the same interrupt on two different devices (SCSI and USB) as you can see in the attachment. i would not really care about it if i had no problems with recording cd's. my question is if this is normal or an error of the bios ?? Very much thanks !!! Bye bye PCI device listing. Bus No. Device No. Func No. Vendor ID Device ID Device Class IRQ -- 07 280867112 Serial Bus Controller 11 0 17 0102B051B Display Controller 10 0 19 090046178 Mass Storage Controller 11 0 20 010B79001 Network Controller 9
cdrecord
hi, does anybody know if there is another cd recording program for linux than cdrecord ??? bye bye !! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp Questions.
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 07:52:25PM -0500, Petra Kevin J Poorman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 08:23:36PM -0500, Petra Kevin J Poorman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, I installed pppconfig, configured my ppp setup for my ISP and got pon to work, VS, my old one line script that was broken by the ppp. Now when i dial my isp I find these messages in my syslog: Apr 13 19:22:30 petra pppd[11431]: local IP address 209.113.53.194 Apr 13 19:22:30 petra pppd[11431]: remote IP address 209.113.55.254 Apr 13 19:23:00 petra pppd[11431]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x7df7] Apr 13 19:23:00 petra pppd[11431]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x0] Apr 13 19:23:30 petra pppd[11431]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0x7df7] Apr 13 19:23:30 petra pppd[11431]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0x0] Could anyone tell me what this means?... This means that you have the official IP adress 209.113.53.194. At this time, people could try to telnet your machine from anywhere in the internet. This adress is a dynamically assigned valid IP adress. So, if you have apache web server installed, people could even point netscape at http://209.113.53.194, and see your locally installed web pages ;) You connected to host 209.113.55.254, which is the server that you diald-in. I knew about the IP stuff what I was wondering was wether or not this stuff: Apr 13 19:23:00 petra pppd[11431]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0x7df7] was healthy, and by the way it INVAIDS my syslog, but flooding it, I couldn't see how it could be heathly... so I thought I would ask about how to fix it, meaning how to get pppd to stop flooding my syslog, with information I can't make heads or tails of Guess I shouldn't e-mail past midnight, I lose mental corodonation, and prowess. The next four lines just give information about transferred packages. ok What do you mean by transferd packages? This are logs about ip packets send. They tell you that pppd is still up and running ;) You can switch it off by removing the debug option. Where this is st depends on your version of pppd. In newer version the file is /etc/ppp/peers/provider or the appropriate file in the same directory. In older version you can try grep option /etc/ppp/* to check what files have this option set. Sorry for this strange reply, I´m writing over a telnet from windows in vi :-/ How to fix it?... also is there a Nothing wrong here. I think you can remove debug from your ppp config file. I don't know how much less verbose ppp would get then... Ah, so thats what it is... Debug information, in what config file would I find the debug line in order to remove it? way to get ppp to tell me how fast it has conected to my ISP at?... Sorry, don't remember. Probably I never knew ;) Well another kind Debian Developer (Thanks John) said this: Add a REPORT string to /etc/chatscripts/provider, like this: REPORT CONNECT And tell chat where to put the report string by giving it the '-r' option in /etc/ppp/peers/provider, like this: connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -r /etc/ppp/report -f /etc/chatscripts/provider Now just read /etc/ppp/report to see everything that the modem reported when it connected. Thank you for this useful information! - -K -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNTQEzxsA5GylAiwdAQHUXQL+LWopAFjNomJ/noAAXZ7TZSaRR0WSmN4w EyKBD7K4PlqjNc+pQAlgc5UosApad1RkbDRhEAsTCf3BPn+IG9dt0H8taDZhwuKh 1k7NcuNxd621ktu4ZaJv/D8ePyTaBnHr =IBIS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
THANKS: Re: How much HD is necessary to mirror Debian x86?
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Hi all again!
Thanks to Nathan and Santiago!
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote:
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: Hi all!
:
: I want to download the entire Debian hamm distribution _for Intel only_
: (just binary-i386, isn't it?)
No, you need binary-all also.
I thought to download the files not the link, so the files will
be downloaded in binary-i386
I'll use mirror instead
: How much HD is necessary?
(I'm assuming you want contrib and non-free also)
kepler:/a/ftp/linux/debian/hamm $ du -s --bytes \
{main,contrib,non-free}/binary-{i386,all} | \
awk 'total = total + $1; END {print total}'
That's a really nice pipe
Regards,
Ulisses
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visual-tcl
hello, i wrote a little tcl-program with visual-tcl. now i want a message to appear when a ping fails to another computer. e.g :if expr `ping earth|pingOk` \ 1 then (set a variable or do something like that) fi pingOk is a little filter-prog that checks if the Ping-String is ok and returns 1 or 0 this if statement should be running the whole time. how can i do this much thanks !! bye bye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: equal interrupts
hi everybody, i have a problem with my pci-bios : it assigns the same interrupt on two different devices (SCSI and USB) as you can see in the attachment. i would not really care about it if i had no problems with recording cd's. my question is if this is normal or an error of the bios ?? I had this problem with my Abit-lx6 motherboard when I got it, I even resorted to emailing abit tech support but to no avail, so I tried moving the scsi card to another slot and 'hey presto' they now use different irq's. Abit did reply and said that the USB controller shares an irq with one of the pci slots, in my case it was the shared pci/isa slot. Hope this helps Graham Very much thanks !!! Bye bye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
loadlin
hye, I'm regarding using loadlin to boot linux from dos. I have got a computer at work with dos/win3.11 installed on it. I am not allowed to format or partition harddisk. I want to run debian on it. The computer has 16 Mb RAM, I won't use swap memory (I know, it's a shame!!!) Can I install all of the debian stuff in one dos directory and run debian with loadlin ? What does it do if I install Debian, by selecting 'mount a previously initialised partition' then install when this partition is my dos primary partition ? Please, don't tell me to buy another hardisk... Thanks a lot Franck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Debian 2.0 Question - GMT
Carroll Kong wrote: Okay... this is getting semi-annoying, I do not know why my clock automagically changes back about 4 hours behind.. maybe 5. My local clock i s fine, it worked fine in Debian 1.3R6, but after installing Debian 2.0 (upgrading), it changed into some odd time. I think it has something to do with /usr/lib/zoneinfo/localtime but it is a weird binary? Can I turn my clo ck back to Eastern Standard Time? Or does anyone know why it is doing this? D oes hwclock -a $GMT have anything to do with it (this is in my /etc/init.d/boot) . Use tzconfig to set your timezone. Then set your clock right with date. Finally, use hwclock --hctosys --utc to set your hardware clock to the current Universal time. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Come to me, all you who labour and are heavily laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you shall find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.(Matthew 11: 28-30) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
why debian?
Hi! I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red Hat linux? To me it seems that they have a far greater community to support others questions. I'm thinking of going to use Linux at work, so security is quite important. From a friend I just got this list address, and I don't know where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me what distribution is better? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New drive---lilo warning
Mark Phillips writes: Hi, I have just installed a third IDE hard drive (my board supports up to 4). I have configured the BIOS. Now I want to use lilo to make it possible to boot from it (it currently has DOS on it), but when I try, it comes up with: # lilo Added linux * Added dos ide: probable bad entry for /dev/hdc ide: to fix it, run: /usr/src/linux/scripts/MAKEDEV.ide Warning: BIOS drive 0x82 may not be accessible ide: probable bad entry for /dev/hdc ide: to fix it, run: /usr/src/linux/scripts/MAKEDEV.ide Warning: BIOS drive 0x82 may not be accessible Added dad I don't know whether to believe its explanation. I suspect something else might be wrong. Any ideas? The answer comes straight out of the LILO manual (/usr/doc/lilo/manual*) More than two disks - - - - - - - - - - On systems with more than two disks, typically only the first two can be accessed. The configuration choices are therefore the same as with two disks. When attempting to access one of the extra disks, LILO displays a warning message ( Warning: BIOS drive 0xnumber may not be accessible ) but does not abort. This is done in order to allow the lucky few whose BIOS (or controller-BIOS) does support more than two drives to make use of this feature. By all others, this warning should be considered a fatal error. Note that the two disks restriction is only imposed by the BIOS. Linux normally has no problems using all disks once it is booted. = In a nutshell, since your BIOS supports 4 drives, ignore the warnings. -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 2.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Carroll Kong wrote: [...] Although it still says Debian 1.3 on the outside...once again, no big deal to fix. /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net, right? Yes, but these files are conffiles. dpkg should have asked you about keeping them or replacing by the new version. Just say Yes and you will see Debian 2.0 (frozen). [ I will remove the frozen thing before the release ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNTSYHCqK7IlOjMLFAQGclgP+KOmeUI65/1bHiHTgok8nLUKYfzt0uZEG fQJ0mUwKzFsLK6PDFOOnfrwnTNk87QKICLbkSiI37CNFxswYl+op7O3j8Ey5Aqp7 hyAiw5WtNXXXJumdc2J7fOS3SAvFU6V+nzO54kqf8XDYjouNAP2gjlzra9eEAGH0 Sa+R5gijIek= =cbzK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: procmail question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Vaclav Hula wrote: I just set-up my .procmailrc (Many thanks to Oliver Elphick). But I have big mailbox (/var/spool/mail/) I want to process w. procmail. Can anybody tell me how? What you need is probably: cat mbox | formail -s procmail [ I think I will add this to the QuickStart file in hamm ]. Thanks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNTSZQCqK7IlOjMLFAQEZ9AQAjjYFIOKLOxRaxQ3b5SyluDNi+8SYQRRZ TGBhUaxVyv+eNqLIVE+Y5aSOk82G891YJaCBUadQQjspqmes7wtn7X5UtEuBHRik UrJSbvgSzoxZaJvvhUvlg3EZydnz9lnqIpT1PVpsMuoRjVxfEK773imvL/Nc/WQb ez1pj2fZEjc= =Xe2E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
Chris de Weth wrote: Hi! I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red Hat linux? As a newbie to this arena, my impression is that RedHat has a better public profile. As we all know, public profiles reality often differ... I'm thinking of going to use Linux at work, so security is quite important. From a friend I just got this list address, and I don't know where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me what distribution is better? From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA network adapter), RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ superior.. -- Ian Stuart Medicine Veterinary Medicine Computing Support The University of Edinburgh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red Hat linux? As a newbie to this arena, my impression is that RedHat has a better public profile. As we all know, public profiles reality often differ... [snip] RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ superior.. I installed Debian 1.3.1 even without any floppy (one actually, the boot disk created after the install to boot the new system) Just booted from CD and all went quite easy. If your system didn't support IDE/ATAPI-CDROM boot, you only need the first (rescue) floppy, the drivers disk is on the CD. Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? Greetings, Maarten Bezemer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where did my init.d/boot go?
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 05:46:07AM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: (...) Your install is broken by buggy grep 2.1-6. I got the same result but I upgrade a copy of my system :) Get grep 2.1-7 and maybe reinstall all packages by hand (whith: dpkg -i). No, these are two different problems. grep_2.1-6 is severely broken and should be replaced by a newer version. The boot.OLD file is not a bug or an error, it is intended behaviour. The /etc/init.d/boot script has bee split up into several scripts. Take a look in /etc/rcS.d/ to see what it run in which order ar boot time. Yes, I know that /etc/init.d/boot has been split. Upgrading init files (and all others) was broken because grep_2.1-6 was installed and upgrade to grep_2.1-7 don't solve problems with broken system without reinstall all of broken packages :( If your sysvinit is really broken, you can boot Linux directly into bash. At the LILO boot prompt, type linux init=/bin/bash This will load bash instead of init, so you get a root shell with no questions asked. Thanks for hint :) Mirek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation
On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Peter Luongo wrote: i am trying to install Debian 1.3 and am not getting very far. instead of loading and decompressing linux first, the rescue disk is trying to load root.bin, and failing each time. it then just tells me that the boot failed and to insert a new disk. I thought it might just be a problem involving the reading of the floppy, but I have tried to boot with four different disks, with the same result each time. any suggestions would be appreciated. -pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] this seems like your rescue disk wasn't written correctly. Try downloading and rawriting it again. It could also mean you've not enough memory or you have a virus. What kind of computer is it? Good luck! Maarten Bezemer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mirror
How can I get mirror to leave the debian/contrib and debian/non-free directories but still retrieve the hamm | slink/contrib, hamm | slink/non-free directories ? If I add the lines exclude_patt+|contrib/ exlude_patt+|non-free/ to my mirror script it will not retrieve any of the contrib directories. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A few things about Debian Hamm
Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable? Also, I am in the middle of installing a hamm system onto a clean drive, however it seems alot of old packages are missing (ie. pine, etc). Will these be included when it goes stable? Another thing - is there any plans for debianizing the enlightenment window manager? Thanks alot, chris BTW. I noticed that the rescue target doesn't work on the new rescue disk, nor does the base installation install any kernel modules... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID installation
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 12:53:55PM +0200, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: I'm planning to install hamm on a system with raid0(stripping), but seems to me that raidtools is not included in the base system so a raid installation cann't be done through the installation method, so I suposse the way to do this is to install the base system in a non-raid partition and move it over the raid partitions after the installation completes. Hmm, you're correct, the bootdisks lack real RAID support. I've brought this up on the appropriate auditorium now. I don't think it will be changed for 2.0 but might be for 2.1. Yes, your way is correct. Please notice that you need take special attention if your root file system should be a RAID. Most of all other directories doesn't make problems. If you plan rootfs-raid, contact me again and I'll give you my setup. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / http://home.pages.de/~joey/ / Install joe (Joey's Own Editor) correct: Joe's Own Editor / pgpjofvfe7ztX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrading to hamm
I was in the same position as you as of yesterday. I upgraded, although, i had to use the upgrade script three times (well just to make sure, I only needed to do it twice) for dependencies. However, I could not figure out how to reexecute the script installation after the first time, so I redownloaded all the files again! No big deal to me since i have a good inet connect, anyone know how do resolve this? (can i just goto /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/base/ and install all the .debs manually?!? How can i get the script to auto continue and do it again without redownloading everything?!?) Ok... after that, I rebooted. I did the /var/wtmp and utmp fix which is told in the autoup.sh. (or else who and last do not work... and they really don't unless you do it. :) ) Then.. the dreaded hamm upgrade! I advise not doing this while you are in X (the hamm upgrade). Use dselect to get the hamm package, (I had a cd of the packages so I escaped unscathed), ftp dselect failed for me... but someone told me how to do it. Try this. Use dists/frozen/main dists/frozen/contrib dists/frozen/non-free. It works fine for me. This is quoted from Bob who assisted me. I did not try it, but it should work. ftp.debian.org has the newest packages btw. My grep was broken on the CD, however, the new package fixes it. My sendmail broke too after the hamm packages upgrade, I got sendmail.8.8.8-14.deb and had to install it twice. (weird eh?) Then it finally went. I had to do some funky things with the sendmail.mf and .cf and what not to get it working... although it works now. (heheh i should get the crab book). Aside from that, not too painful, but reconfiguring afterstep 1.4 took a bit of time. Generally took 8 hours for me to fully reconfigure and feel happy about the system again. (it takes me a while for these things). Hope this helps. (no unstablility yet...) Carroll Kong On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris wrote: Hi, I am currently running a debian bo system, and I am considering upgrading (or more to the point - re-installing) to a hamm system. I am, however, conserned about stablility... Does anyone know of any major problems with a hamm system? Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris wrote: Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable? Also, I am in the middle of installing a hamm system onto a clean drive, however it seems alot of old packages are missing (ie. pine, etc). Will these be included when it goes stable? pine is distributed in source-only form (but with Debian patches, so that you may create .deb packages for it). You will have to compile it yourself. Get the .dsc, .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz files from the FTP archives (hamm/non-free/source/mail) and do the following: dpkg-source -x pine_3.96L-7.dsc cd pine-3.96L debian/rules binary (under root) That's all. Then you can dpkg -i pine.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNTSreyqK7IlOjMLFAQFPnQP/cJ3QjjhvfEHrXENW6zQOxv+9MgQ8n1vV I8YwM3HXHvtM1ER4F5fGoaw8Wky42hlZ6N4ceTn1vaf9bMBGeyYt5GVw3qC5KJVZ hTdLi/OzC/2WK14Mo5cZC7uBtDvuXMJ0zowcCf01wfDd9ZfI2kst8dj8l8oXB6GK B7fWVTagQ1s= =QMnw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
Chris wrote: Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable? I forget whether a date is set or not...but my system crashed due to major hardware failure (I am respondign from work now)...hamm seems rather stable Also, I am in the middle of installing a hamm system onto a clean drive, however it seems alot of old packages are missing (ie. pine, etc). Will these be included when it goes stable? I have been dowloading files at work and burning CDs... Pine is in non-free ...I noticed some things missing too... I saw Apache (web server) listed in Packages but...the deb file was not there...then again...I bvurened my hamm CD before the code freeze... just remember to check out non-free and all the toher places you never know where a package could end up Another thing - is there any plans for debianizing the enlightenment window manager? hmm I think I looked at Enlightenment...and I think it looked coolthat was a while ago tho... Thanks alot, chris BTW. I noticed that the rescue target doesn't work on the new rescue disk, nor does the base installation install any kernel modules... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE Beta-3
Hi all, I am trying to install KDE beta-3, I have downloaded the .deb files and I am trying to install them but it is saying that I need libgif2 or greater, Does anyone know where I can get this from as I can't find it anywhere? And is it avaliable in .deb format? Also if you install a .tgz format program (i.e. source compile and install) how do you tell dpkg that the required files are installed, as doesn't it look at its package database to se if the .deb package it needs is installed? Regards Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
I don't believe that is true I am using pine under hamm obn my pc here at work well..I have it installed...due to problems with firewall issues and DHCP I can't seem to get mail working but... I downloaded pine as a binary for hamm I saw the deb of hamm in hamm/non-free/binary-i386/mail -Steve Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris wrote: Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable? Also, I am in the middle of installing a hamm system onto a clean drive, however it seems alot of old packages are missing (ie. pine, etc). Will these be included when it goes stable? pine is distributed in source-only form (but with Debian patches, so that you may create .deb packages for it). You will have to compile it yourself. Get the .dsc, .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz files from the FTP archives (hamm/non-free/source/mail) and do the following: dpkg-source -x pine_3.96L-7.dsc cd pine-3.96L debian/rules binary (under root) That's all. Then you can dpkg -i pine.deb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNTSreyqK7IlOjMLFAQFPnQP/cJ3QjjhvfEHrXENW6zQOxv+9MgQ8n1vV I8YwM3HXHvtM1ER4F5fGoaw8Wky42hlZ6N4ceTn1vaf9bMBGeyYt5GVw3qC5KJVZ hTdLi/OzC/2WK14Mo5cZC7uBtDvuXMJ0zowcCf01wfDd9ZfI2kst8dj8l8oXB6GK B7fWVTagQ1s= =QMnw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
There is no better distribution. It is a matter of taste and style. I like slackware, but it has no package system. :) I find Debian to be a nice combination in between. It has a good package system and does not seem to have as many bugs as redhat. Although I could be wrong since red hat has a lot of patches. Try them yourself and get a feel for it. Carroll Kong On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris de Weth wrote: Hi! I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red Hat linux? To me it seems that they have a far greater community to support others questions. I'm thinking of going to use Linux at work, so security is quite important. From a friend I just got this list address, and I don't know where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me what distribution is better? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
network startup script
Can anyone suggest why this script doesn't seem to work on 2.1.90?
It's my /etc/init.d/network. I added the netmask on the route line
for lo because it seemed to help, but I still get some other errors,
and ifconfig seems to hang.
#!/bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0
IPADDR=203.14.18.11
NETMASK=255.255.255.128
NETWORK=203.14.18.0
BROADCAST=203.14.18.127
GATEWAY=203.14.18.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
This script seems to need changing every few new kernels. I wish
they would make up their mind.
Hamish
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Re: KDE Beta-3
Hi all, I am trying to install KDE beta-3, I have downloaded the .deb files and I am trying to install them but it is saying that I need libgif2 or greater, Does anyone know where I can get this from as I can't find it anywhere? And is it avaliable in .deb format? Providing you have installed KDEsupport, which provides libgif2, you don't need libgif 2. As it says in the KDE FAQ, just type dpkg -i --force-depends name-of-file.deb and it will ignore all dependencies for that package. Also if you install a .tgz format program (i.e. source compile and install) how do you tell dpkg that the required files are installed, as doesn't it look at its package database to se if the .deb package it needs is installed? Regards Graham Again, just use force-depends to overide dependencies, and hopefully it should work. Incidentally, I think I remember you when I was trying to get KDE beta 3 to work myself - if it was you, then thanks, as I eventually got it up and running! Graham Pople ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) SNES emulators at Emulation One (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/index.htm) All emulators at E1 Newsletter (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/e1news.htm) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernels
Can anyone suggest an easy way to ensure that I never download a debian kernel package where I already have a custom kernel installed? dpkg/apt/dselect continually replace my kernel-package-2.0.33 with the standard one, which doesn't suite my hardware at all of course (and causes random reboots during startup in fact, as some kernels do --- bzImage problem I think). I guess I can always build mine with --revision 9 or something. Is there an easier way? Is there an easy way to get dpkg or apt to set packages to hold from the command line? thanks, Hamish -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
email sendmail problems?
For odd reasons, I cannot send email to one user on my college network. Pine immediately says, blahblah username not found. Not sending. I thought it is supposed to send it with sendmail?!?! Have I configured sendmail improperly? Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
There is no better distribution. It is a matter of taste and style. I like slackware, but it has no package system. :) I find Debian to be a nice combination in between. It has a good package system and does not seem to have as many bugs as redhat. Although I could be wrong since red hat has a lot of patches. Try them yourself and get a feel for it. Carroll Kong On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris de Weth wrote: Hi! I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red Hat linux? To me it seems that they have a far greater community to support others questions. I'm thinking of going to use Linux at work, so security is quite important. From a friend I just got this list address, and I don't know where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me what distribution is better? Well, security is definitely prioritised a lot with Debian - one of the first questions it asks you is whether you want to install shadow passwords. I haven't had any real problems with my Debian 1.3 then 2.0 frozen systems - with that superb package system it all works fine. However, Red Hat is supposedly a lot easier to use. Graham Pople ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) SNES emulators at Emulation One (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/index.htm) All emulators at E1 Newsletter (http://www.jalna.demon.co.uk/e1news.htm) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
Hi, combination in between. It has a good package system and does not seem to have as many bugs as redhat. Although I could be wrong since red hat has a lot of patches. Try them yourself and get a feel for it. This could be interpreted several ways. Either RedHat is quicker at getting bugs fixed, RedHat has more bugs, Debian is slower at getting bugs repaired or Debian has less bugs. I tend to think that Debian is a technically superior distribution, i.e. in the way it is put together and managed, perhaps resulting in less bugs. I've spoken to a colleague who uses RedHat 5.0. He told me the initial release was _very_ buggy. Hence, RedHat would almost have to put out many patches. Don't get me wrong, I believe RedHat to be a fine distribution, too. I just prefer Debian. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernels
Hi, Can anyone suggest an easy way to ensure that I never download a debian kernel package where I already have a custom kernel installed? dpkg/apt/dselect continually replace my kernel-package-2.0.33 with the standard one, which doesn't suite my hardware at all of course (and causes random reboots during startup in fact, as some kernels do --- bzImage problem I think). Just place your kernel-image package on hold in dselect, i.e. highlight the kernel-image package in dselect and press the = button. That will prevent your kernel-image from being upgraded. I've done the same. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-I- Re: email sendmail problems?
Ignore this.. i think i may have fixed it. :( Sorry about the flood of 'newbie' questions. Heheeh :) Carroll Kong On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Carroll Kong wrote: For odd reasons, I cannot send email to one user on my college network. Pine immediately says, blahblah username not found. Not sending. I thought it is supposed to send it with sendmail?!?! Have I configured sendmail improperly? Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Beta-3
trying to install KDE beta-3, I have downloaded the .deb files and I am trying to install them but it is saying that I need libgif2 or greater, Does anyone know where I can get this from as I can't find it anywhere? And is it avaliable in .deb format? KDE is sort of a non-Debian *.deb. As I understand it the package was made by the KDE folks and is still pretty broken. I found it was interesting that it installs itself into /opt rather than /usr/local or some other standard directory. My solution was to kill the package and to wait until there is real Debian support for it. I ran it on my RedHat system before I upgraded my RedHat Dist and Beta-3 ran ok not many problems at all. I would but I don't like many of the others window managers. /opt is new directory in the FHS if i remember correclty, Netscape Communicator 4 will install itself in there if if exists by default to. Regards Graham -- Regards,|Debian GNU/__ o http://www.debian.org . | / /__ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy | / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) |// /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ |...because lockups are for convicts... |What is or why Linux? Click on the below: http://www8.zdnet.com/pcmag/pctech/content/16/13/os1613.001.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xwindows
Hi, I own a Hercules Stingray 128/3D 3DFX card (pci)6 megs vidram. and when I do xwindows, I get gigantic icons and screens. has anyone else ran across this problem, if have please let me know how you repaired it. Mike Holliday -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Maarten Bezemer wrote: I installed Debian 1.3.1 even without any floppy (one actually, the boot disk created after the install to boot the new system) Just booted from CD and all went quite easy. If your system didn't support IDE/ATAPI-CDROM boot, you only need the first (rescue) floppy, the drivers disk is on the CD. Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? I use Debian, too. I like it very much. I think Red Hat has more publicity since they can spend the money. They are a commercial company that can do that. Debian are a bunch of volunteers that don't have a lot of money. As for the rpm-packages - Debian can read those with the alian package. Furthermore, Debian has twice more packages then RedHat (at least that what the Debian peoples say...) Liran Zvibel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows
Hi, I own a Hercules Stingray 128/3D 3DFX card (pci)6 megs vidram. and when I do xwindows, I get gigantic icons and screens. has anyone else ran across this problem, if have please let me know how you repaired it. I own an Intergraph Intense 3D Voodoo which has the same Voodoo Rush chipset your card has and I have had no problems. Are you using the latest XF86 distribution and server (XF86_SVGA)? I am using XF86-3.3.2 on my hamm system. By the way, only 4MB of your RAM is useable by Linux. The other 2MB is for textures which may be used by applications that use Glide for Linux, for example. I'm not sure if the Glide library with Voodoo Rush support has been ported to Linux yet, however. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID installation
I want to install Debian in a RAID 5 w/ 4 9.1GB HDs server. Are there something that I must know? TIA Leonardo Ruoso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
Mark Phillips writes: I have been wondering about whether putting a swap partition on one IDE drive, while putting most of linux on a different IDE drive will speed up swap by allowing both disks to be accessed at the same time. Unfortunately I think I read somewhere that when you have a Master/Slave IDE pair, only one of the disks can be accessed at any one time, so that having the swap partition on a separate disk doesn't help. However my motherboard is capable of using 4 ide devices. It has two pairs: Primary Master/Primary Slave and Secondary Master/Secondary Slave What if I put linux on one of the primary disks, and the swap partition on a secondary disk, will that mean both disks can be accessed at the same time, hence giving a swap speedup? You need to think in terms of available bandwidth. If the swap partition is on the same cable as the root partition, then it has to share the bandwidth with the other partition(s). Moving the swap partition to the secondary controller (where it is by itself), will increase available bandwidth. You can use this trick with a CDROM drive also. The second thing that you can do is to move up to the new ultra-DMA IDE drives. The bandwidth (bytes per second) is much higher than the standard IDE drives and will speed up Linux as a whole. The third thing that you can do to speed up your system is add more memory so that you don't even need to access the swap partition. And lastly, if you are using EDO memory SIMMs and your motherboard supports SDRAM memory, switch over to SDRAM. You can get a large speed up doing this alone. My kernel compile times used to be ~35 minutes. When I changed from EDO to SDRAM, the kernel compile times dropped to 12 minutes (without any other changes). -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to hamm
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 12:29:39AM -0700, George Bonser wrote: There are some rather severe problems with memory corruption. Generally, you will only see them on busy systems. Other problems include memory leaks, filesystem problems and system hangs. There are also networking issues. 2.0.33 is pretty bad. It DID introduce some hardware support that other kernels did not have. You are better off with 2.0.32 until 2.0.34 which I hope will be out pretty soon. It is currently at pre7 or 8. See freshmeat for details on where to find it if you want to build it. I have 2.0.33 running on an ABIT IT5H 2.0, K6-233 w/ 64 megs of RAM. It's rock solid, but when I add another 64 megs, things start to segfault all over the place. Is that a symptom of this problem? Should I switch to 2.0.32 or 34pre? My K6 is one of the 32M bug free ones. I suspected the memory immediately and took it out. But it appears to be good stuff -- 60ns Micron EDO, just like what was already in there. Naturally, it also passes every memory test I throw at it. Thanks, Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
Thomas Kocourek wrote: [...] And lastly, if you are using EDO memory SIMMs and your motherboard supports SDRAM memory, switch over to SDRAM. You can get a large speed up doing this alone. My kernel compile times used to be ~35 minutes. When I changed from EDO to SDRAM, the kernel compile times dropped to 12 minutes (without any other changes). That is impressive. Did you install the same amount SDRAM as EDO RAM? What type of CPU have you got? Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to hamm
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, George Bonser wrote: On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Chris wrote: I am, however, conserned about stablility... Does anyone know of any major problems with a hamm system? Chris Only on systems that have run 2.0.33. All systems running 2.0.32 are fine. There are none of the problems that Red Hat has been having with its 5.0 release. And some 2.0.33 systems (mine at least) are quite stable with hamm. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stopping XDM
On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Shaleh wrote: All daemons in Debian can be stopped by calling the start-stop-daemon. An easier way is to look in /etc/init.d and call its script. for XDM it is /etc/init.d/xdm stop (start would restart it). Yes, and change the line 'start-xdm' in /etc/X11/config into 'no-start-xdm' if you don't want xdm to be started at boot time. But if you want to stop xdm, you must do this before you change this file or the /etc/init.d/xdm script will not stop xdm. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't believe that is true I am using pine under hamm obn my pc here at work well..I have it installed...due to problems with firewall issues and DHCP I can't seem to get mail working but... I downloaded pine as a binary for hamm I saw the deb of hamm in hamm/non-free/binary-i386/mail -Steve There may have been a pine binary .deb for hamm before people got the license figured out. The fact is, the University of Washington forbids distributing modified binary versions of pine. (There was a binary .deb in bo because the license isn't perfectly clear that that's forbidden, but if you look for it, it's there) Yes, this is highly annoying. Yes, many people have tried to get them to change it, with no success. I know many people annoyed at pine's non-freeness have chosen to go with mutt - you may want to look at that. The original post also asked about the enlightenment wm. The list of prospective packages (http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html) lists it as one that's being worked on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernels
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Can anyone suggest an easy way to ensure that I never download a debian kernel package where I already have a custom kernel installed? dpkg/apt/dselect continually replace my kernel-package-2.0.33 with the standard one, which doesn't suite my hardware at all of course (and causes random reboots during startup in fact, as some kernels do --- bzImage problem I think). I guess I can always build mine with --revision 9 or something. Is there an easier way? Is there an easy way to get dpkg or apt to set packages to hold from the command line? I always build kernel.debs with these switches to kernel-package: make-kpkg --revision 3:custom.1.0 kernel_image The --revision custom.x.y should do it already, because custom is evaluated as a higher number than anything the kernel-image maintainer puts in the default package. Notice that I added an epoch (3:) to satisfy all lingering paranoia. Thi should not be necessary under normal circumstances, but there have been moments when the kernel-images in the distribution had an epoch (1:) too, thus replacing any home-crafted kernel-images with a custom version number. I assume that the kernel-image will never need an epoch of level three (knock knock.) Cheers, Joost -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network startup script
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
Can anyone suggest why this script doesn't seem to work on 2.1.90?
It's my /etc/init.d/network. I added the netmask on the route line
for lo because it seemed to help, but I still get some other errors,
and ifconfig seems to hang.
#!/bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0
IPADDR=203.14.18.11
NETMASK=255.255.255.128
NETWORK=203.14.18.0
BROADCAST=203.14.18.127
GATEWAY=203.14.18.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
The 2.1.x series kernels automagically add the net routes by default. If
you need to override them, you need to provide the netmask and other
information as well, it isn't extrapolated anymore. I've edited my
/etc/init.d/network as follows (it might be good for the netconfig stuff
from hamm to do something similar):
--- snip ---
#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
# 2.1.x kernels don't need this and emit harmless but annoying errors
if [ `/sbin/kernelversion` = 2.0 ] ; then
route add -net 127.0.0.0
fi
IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=xxx.xxx.xxx.0
BROADCAST=xxx.xxx.xxx.255
GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
# 2.1.x kernels don't need this and emit harmless but annoying errors
if [ `/sbin/kernelversion` = 2.0 ] ; then
route add -net ${NETWORK}
fi
[ ${GATEWAY} ] route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
--- snip ---
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I have been unable to get arena www broweser working and configure X windows to load stuff automatically? I ran dselect ,arena is installed (dkpg -s arena).Its not on any menu on any of the window managers(wm),In the xterm I typed arena,get message bad command error.Days have past.Now I'm about to try to install netscape in the next couple of hrs! Simply I have got afterstep as the default window manager.I want fwm2 to be it. ran update-menus but when I was using olwvm it only has two menu options. Which docs will be helpful ?I can't find anything on .xsession file.I can't read html stuff!. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software RAID configuration in hamm install?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Remco! On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: Hi all, I'm novice to RAID, and I want to try with it. I would like to know if hamm provices in its installation the tools to setup a RAID0 (stripping) installation. Also I would like to know if the menu for installation has RAID0 configuration options Thanks in advance, Ulisses PD: Does debian.org ships hamm? Sorry for the late reply, I am catching up with the mailing list. Thanks for your reply! :-) Your info is great for me! ...but... you have make a mistake ;-) in hamm mdutils has been replaced by raidtools Yes, silly me. I knew that, I just didn't think of it. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, tko wrote: Mark Phillips writes: I have been wondering about whether putting a swap partition on one IDE drive, while putting most of linux on a different IDE drive will speed up swap by allowing both disks to be accessed at the same time. What if I put linux on one of the primary disks, and the swap partition on a secondary disk, will that mean both disks can be accessed at the same time, hence giving a swap speedup? You need to think in terms of available bandwidth. If the swap partition is on the same cable as the root partition, then it has to share the bandwidth with the other partition(s). Moving the swap partition to the secondary controller (where it is by itself), will increase available bandwidth. Why /the/ swap partition? Put one on each disk if you want. That way, the system can choose which to use according to load. See /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Multiple...whatsits... Cheers, -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 10:09:52PM +1000, Chris wrote:
Can anybody tell me when hamm is expected to go stable?
When the're no more release critical bugs left. A list of these is posted on
debian-devel-announce with some regularity (latest:
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-announce-9804/msg2.html).
This list is derived from the list of bugs with Severity:
{critical,grave,important} as registered with the bug tracking system
(http://www.debian.org/Bugs/).
There's recently been an announcment about this:
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9804/msg01102.html which
also explains what you can do to help.
HTH,
Ray
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Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Phillips writes: I have been wondering about whether putting a swap partition on one IDE drive, while putting most of linux on a different IDE drive will speed up swap by allowing both disks to be accessed at the same time. Unfortunately I think I read somewhere that when you have a Master/Slave IDE pair, only one of the disks can be accessed at any one time, so that having the swap partition on a separate disk doesn't help. However my motherboard is capable of using 4 ide devices. It has two pairs: Primary Master/Primary Slave and Secondary Master/Secondary Slave What if I put linux on one of the primary disks, and the swap partition on a secondary disk, will that mean both disks can be accessed at the same time, hence giving a swap speedup? You need to think in terms of available bandwidth. If the swap partition is on the same cable as the root partition, then it has to share the bandwidth with the other partition(s). Moving the swap partition to the secondary controller (where it is by itself), will increase available bandwidth. You can use this trick with a CDROM drive also. No, there is more to it than this. If the OS send a (read, write or whatever) command to an IDE disk, the IDE controller is 'busy' until the command is fully completed. All this time you can not use the other disk on the same controller at all. So, if you try to read a lot of data from both disks simultaneously, they'll be spending a lot of time just waiting for each other. If you put the disks at two different controllers, you don't have this problem. The second thing that you can do is to move up to the new ultra-DMA IDE drives. The bandwidth (bytes per second) is much higher than the standard IDE drives and will speed up Linux as a whole. If you want to really speed up your hard drives, switch to multiple SCSI drives. Period. The third thing that you can do to speed up your system is add more memory so that you don't even need to access the swap partition. True, but I know from experience that if you add more RAM, you'll use it all eventually. I have 48MB in my system nowadays and I still use the swap partitions I have. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID installation
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Leonardo Ruoso wrote: I want to install Debian in a RAID 5 w/ 4 9.1GB HDs server. Are there something that I must know? Yes, you must know how to do that. :-) Read the relevant HOWTOs and man pages. Documents you should read include at least: /usr/doc/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO.gz /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Software-RAID.gz and the man pages in the raidtools package Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: Chris de Weth wrote: I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red Hat linux? As a newbie to this arena, my impression is that RedHat has a better public profile. As we all know, public profiles reality often differ... I may add that red hat CD's are easier to find than debian ones (well in France). I'm thinking of going to use Linux at work, so security is quite important. From a friend I just got this list address, and I don't know where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me what distribution is better? From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA network adapter), RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ superior.. Just a correction : debian now only needs 1 floppy to install if your CDrom is quite standard. If it is not the case, you will need 2 floppies (the rescue disk and the drivers disks which contain drivers for all CDroms). In my humble opinion, there is no great difference between installing a debian or a red hat distribution, but upgrading a debian one is far easier. Moreover a debian installation is able to install redhat packages, the reverse is false. So I would advise to use debian, and if you need something that can only be found in redhat, you'll be able to install it without any problem. Isabelle Perinelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
Isabelle Dauthieu wrote: On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me what distribution is better? From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA network adapter), RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ superior.. Just a correction : debian now only needs 1 floppy to install if your CDrom is quite standard. If it is not the case, you will need 2 floppies (the rescue disk and the drivers disks which contain drivers for all CDroms). I feel I must clarify my position here - I've done ally my installs from FTP sites. It's one of the advantages of working for an Academic site In this situation, RedHat seems to offer an easier install... -- Ian Stuart Medicine Veterinary Medicine Computing Support The University of Edinburgh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xwindows
Hi Mike, Below is the message I sent to some one else who was having problems with his Voodoo Rush card. I hope that it helps. -Ossama Forwarded message: -- I too have a card with the Voodoo Rush chipset, an Intergraph Intense 3D Voodoo. The Xserver/driver that you want is in the latest XF86_SVGA server, i.e. in XF86 3.3.2. I'm not sure if that is available as a bo set of packages. If it isn't just download the Linux_ix86 XF86-3.3.2 binaries (not the glibc ones) from any XF86 mirror. The glibc XF86 binaries are for Linux libc6/glibc2, not Linux libc5 which is what is normally found on bo systems (Debian 1.3.1) such as yours. -- The binaries you might want to get include: XF86SVGA.tgz XF86bin.tgz XF86lib.tgz XF86set.tgz XF86cfg.tgz and perhaps some others and some fonts. Use your judgement and read the binary installation instructions. :) From what I recall, the tar files are archived relative to /usr/X11R6. Be careful where XF86Setup and/or xf86config store the XF86Config file after you are done configuring X. Debian places the XF86Config file in /etc/X11 and XF86 stores it in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/(something or other) by default. You can choose where to save the XF86Config file right after the setup is done, I believe. Also, if the setup/config programs ask you whether or not to set a symbolic link to X, then answer no or whatever the negative response is. Debian's X is an suid wrapper for the X server. The server to use is set at the very top of /etc/X11/Xserver. Good luck. -Ossama -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maarten Bezemer) wrote: Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? The core set of RPM packages, what RedHat produces, is much smaller than Debian's main distribution. While some other companies and groups distribute their software in RPM form, the majority of the RPM packages that you are hearing about are put together by RedHat users, and therefore can be of somewhat dubious quality. Debian has a policy document to specify how things should be done (to avoid problems), and almost all of Debian's packages (a few packages are looking for new maintainers) are supported through its bug tracking system. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
Ian Stuart wrote (Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:14:33 + ): | On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: | | RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed | to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ | superior.. | |I feel I must clarify my position here - I've done ally my installs from |FTP sites. | |It's one of the advantages of working for an Academic site | |In this situation, RedHat seems to offer an easier install... | I have to jump in here. If you're installing from FTP sites, you only need 2 floppies maximum: the rescue/boot disk and the drivers disk (as Isabelle noted). I've done all my installs (granted only two =)) from an academic site, and I've never used more than two disks. Perhaps you didn't realize that the base system could be installed over FTP? There may be advantages to Red Hat, but I don't think they are in the installation process... -alan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another Debian 2.0 Question - GMT
Oliver Elphick olly@lfix.co.uk wrote: Use tzconfig to set your timezone. Then set your clock right with date. Finally, use hwclock --hctosys --utc to set your hardware clock to the current Universal time. If you want to use local zone time instead of GMT (for instance if your machine is dual boot with a DOS system), edit the GMT vaiable in /etc/default/rcS. I use local time, and my /etc/default/rcS reads: # Set GMT=-u if your system clock is set to GMT, and GMT= if not. GMT= Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new ATI Mach64 boards, expert@work, 3D RAGE II+
From a search of the list archives looking for info on the Mach64 server, I've seen references to the fact that some of the recent ATI boards ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 3D RAGE II+ chips) don't work with the Mach64 server supplied with Debian 1.3.1.r6. One reply indicated that downloading the XFree86 package numbered *_3.3.2-3.deb (which I found in the unstable hierarchy) would fix the problem. I started with the Mach64 server of that release and immediately got a dependency problem: it requires libc6. Do I understand correctly that libc6 will only work with the full Debian 2.0 release and that I should wait until this release is closer to stable before I update the XF86 package for these new boards? Or is there another way of using the newer drivers (re-compiling the source, or something) that allows me to use these boards with 1.3.1.r6? One problem with the 3D RAGE II+ (sorry for the shouting, but it's the chip name given not-too-intelligently, in my mind, by the manufacturers) seems related to video memory. Our boards have 4M, but the normal configuration setup (xf86config) comments out the VideoRam 4096 line in the XF86Config file. The server refuses to start with messages indicating that the board has insufficient memory for any of the listed modes, an indication, I assume, that the server is not probing the board properly for memory info. When I uncomment this line, I get some results with some modes, but multiple images on the screen, etc. This reminds me of the problems I had about 2 years ago when updating XFree86 (to 3.1 or something) immediately fixed these problems, rather than having to re-calculate the figures in the mode lines. Thanks, --Steve Izma, Wilfrid Laurier University Press Waterloo, Ont., Canada N2L 3C5 (519) 884-0710 ext. 6125 FAX: (519) 725-1399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: I don't believe that is true I am using pine under hamm obn my pc here at work Yes, you and me both downloaded the .deb of pine (and pico, and pine-docs, probably). However, it's been removed from binary-i386. I'd like to know why it's only there in source form, if anyone can answer that. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is like a bad margarita with good tequila, http://squawk.klue.on.ca I thought, as I poured whiskey onto my granola Running Debian Linux 2.0 and faced a new day. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: why debian?
As we all know, public profiles reality often differ... RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ superior.. speaking of profiles reality differing :) You're off by 6 :) Either boot from a cd, or if you already have a working dos partition, copy the install files to c:\ The only reason you'd ever need 6 is if you have a machine with no prior OS and no CD. Though I usually boot off the root disk anyway, wiht just the other files around, but that's because I never bothered to figure out loadlin :) rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Marco Anglesio wrote: On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: I don't believe that is true I am using pine under hamm obn my pc here at work Yes, you and me both downloaded the .deb of pine (and pico, and pine-docs, probably). However, it's been removed from binary-i386. I'd like to know why it's only there in source form, if anyone can answer that. This is becoming a FAQ. The reason the binary pine was removed from the archive is because the pine licence from uwash doesn't permit redistribution of derivative works, which includes the patched version of pine that we had been mistakenly been distributing in binary form. Pine sources are available on the archive in debian source format. It is reasonably easy to compile a binary package for your own use from that, but we can't redistribute the binarys ourselves. Many people have been migrating to mutt, which suffers none of pine's non-freeness and seems to have some more features (and which is more frequently updated). -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[tcsh] disabling autologout?
Hi, How do I diable autologout in tcsh? The man page tells me how I can enable it. The problem seems to be that even under X my DISPLAY is not being set and tcsh running under xterm keeps logging me out after a period of inactivity. S. -- Whom the gods would destroy, they first teach BASIC. Sudhakar C13n International Websites Engineer http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: Isabelle Dauthieu wrote: On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me what distribution is better? From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA network adapter), RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ superior.. Just a correction : debian now only needs 1 floppy to install if your CDrom is quite standard. If it is not the case, you will need 2 floppies (the rescue disk and the drivers disks which contain drivers for all CDroms). I feel I must clarify my position here - I've done ally my installs from FTP sites. It's one of the advantages of working for an Academic site Or of living in an area with flat-rate telephone service. In this situation, RedHat seems to offer an easier install... On a system with DOS and a CD-ROM, you can install Debian without any floppies. On the other hand if you have a non-standard CD-ROM Red Hat is almost impossible to install. Also, unless things have changed since 4.1 (the last RH version I used) version upgrades are almost as painful as a new installation, which is definitely not the case with Debian (even hamm). Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A few things about Debian Hamm
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 10:16:26AM -0400, Daniel Martin at cush wrote: The original post also asked about the enlightenment wm. The list of prospective packages (http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html) lists it as one that's being worked on. IIRC, the future maintainer post a mail about releasing Enlightment deb at the beginning of June 1998. The current version of Enlightment aren't ready for packaging and it there are a major release announce for the end of May. -- Fabien Ninoles Running Debian/GNU Linux E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WebPage: http://www.callisto.si.usherb.ca/~94246757 WorkStation [available when connected!]: http://nightbird.tzone.org/ RSA PGP KEY [E3723845]: 1C C1 4F A6 EE E5 4D 99 4F 80 2D 2D 1F 85 C1 70 pgp5qNq8XgdLN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [tcsh] disabling autologout?
On 15 Apr, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: Hi, How do I diable autologout in tcsh? The man page tells me how I can enable it. The problem seems to be that even under X my DISPLAY is not being set and tcsh running under xterm keeps logging me out after a period of inactivity. S. Put unset autologout in your .login. -- Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Isabelle Dauthieu wrote: In my humble opinion, there is no great difference between installing a debian or a red hat distribution, but upgrading a debian one is far easier. Moreover a debian installation is able to install redhat packages, the reverse is false. No, you can install deb packages on a RedHat system using alien; I've done it several times. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell Using Linux - Windows-free zone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [tcsh] disabling autologout?
Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: Hi, How do I diable autologout in tcsh? The man page tells me how I can enable unset autologout it. The problem seems to be that even under X my DISPLAY is not being set I don't see how these two problems could be related but... If your DISPLAY is not being set for local xterms make sure you are setting it using setenv instead of set in your login shell. For remote xterms, look into the REMOTEHOST environment variable. PERSONAL_BIAS Use bash (instead of tcsh) and ssh (for connecting to remote hosts). /PERSONAL_BIAS HTH, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How can I get dselect to reinstall all installed packages?
I have a desire to get dselect to reinstall every package that I have installed, from my known-clean CD-rom. (I've had a security issue arise, and don't know the extent of the possible changes.) I don't want to have to remove every package, or to upgrade to a new version of Debian; I'm very happy with the packages I have installed. Is there a way to get dselect to overwrite files with the same version, instead of skipping them? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HELP!!!
A friend of mine sent out an e-mail about this last night (taking half-assed dictation in his own way) I woul dlike to elaborate and ask again for help...I am desparate. Last thursday I was recompiling my kernel (2.0.29) on a hamm system (pre-freze but this had worked b4) and I got the dreaded SIGNAL 11. I checked out the SIG11 FAQ...and as it mentioned I ran Make again and it went a little farther and died again..as the FAQ says then it must be a hardware problem. I replaced the motherboard. On the new motherboard I am having still major problems. I have swapped out nearly every part, to no avail Here are the symproms: I can boot MS-DOS and use Loadlin to start the Debian installation I can install with no errors (checking badblocks etc, remaking the partition table etc - I make a 1024 MB root partition, a 128 MB swap partition, and the rest of the 3.2 gig drive is for /home) When I reboot... The BIOS does its thing and comes to lilo after which I see loading Linux and then it pauses for up to 20 seconds...then it gives me Error 0x20 and stops if I again boot DOS and go into the install... then on the seocnd VC I run e2fsck -f /dev/hda1 it comes up with major errors and deletes most of the filesystem (I once saw nearly everything gone leaving only the lost+found directory) I tried this hard drive in a second computer, it installs linux fine when that drive is moved back to this computer, it exibits the SAME refusal to boot...however I disabled the onboard IDE and put in a ISA IDE controler, and it worked just fine I don't hoeveer consioder this a solution becaus eit is a NEW motherboard which i got Saturday Is it possible that the IDE controller is a buggy one or of a weird chipset that will not work under linux? (installing bo so kernel 2.0.29) the board is a BioStar 8500 TTD (it is a TX chipset) where can I find this out? should I just return this borad and try to get a new board of a diffetn model and company (I already returned this board once and got it replaced...to no avail) a quick response is apreciated I have over 1000 e-maisl on my ISP...and have been without a home PC for almost a week This is really setting back my projects and things if you need any more info please let me know -Steve -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
