Re: Mensajes de error del kernel...
Ignacio Más Ivars writes:
Hola a todos:
Necesito ayuda para descubrir porqué al arrancar el sistema el
kernel me da los siguientes mensajes de error:
SIOCSIFADDR: no such device (o algo así...)
SIOCSINETMASK: no such device.
SIOCSI no me acuerdo del tercero...
Los dos primeros son claramente mensajes de ifconfig. Este
comando se ejecuta como parte del proceso de arranque, e inicializa el
(los) dispositivos de red. Por ejemplo, en el caso del trasto desde el
que estoy escribiendo, eth0. Los motivos por los que puede fallar
son variados. Por el mensaje, yo diría que bien no existe el
dispositivo que le estás dando como dispositivo de red, o tienes algún
problema serio con él (por ejemplo, no se ha cargado adecuadamente la
biblioteca dinámica que le sa soporte).
Yo uso Debian-1.3.1 (osea, bo). ifconfig se ejecuta tal y
como está en el script init.d/network. En él puedes ver (en mi caso):
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=163.117.137.173
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=163.117.137.0
BROADCAST=163.117.137.255
GATEWAY=163.117.137.2
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ ${GATEWAY} ] route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
Como el único sitio donde se usa netmask es en el segundo
ifconfig (el de verdad, el otro es para el dispositivo de loopback,
que se suele usar para los mensajes que van a la propia máquina), y tú
tienes errores con eso, supongo que tienes tarjeta de red, y por lo
tanto el segundo ifconfig. Asegurate de que los datos para él son
correctos. Asegurate también de que cualquier biblioteca dinámica que
necesite eth0 se ha cargado adecuadamente. Puedes probar todo esto
desde la línea de comandos, no hace falta que rearranques y
rearranques...
Si te puedo ayudar en algo más, dimelo...
Jesus.
La cuestión es que llevo detrás de ello varios días y no encuentro la
razón. Me he recompilado el kernel (2.0.33 de bo-updates...) un par de
veces y no he conseguido nada. Suena como si se refiriera a algo de red,
pero no lo encuentro. Tengo habilitado el networking y solo utilizo el
ppp como módulo... La verdad es que no se porqué o de dónde sale...
¿Alguna idea?...
Gracias por vuestra ayuda.
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Re: Dos cuestiones (monitor y t. video)
J. Parera wrote: Empiezo: 1. Tengo un monitor IBM G50 del cual necesito los datos necesarios para configurar las x-window (del modo que sea, editando el xf86config, con XF6Setup, etc), pero no tengo los conocimientos necesarios para hacerlo. No sé inglés :( Me temo que entonces necesitarás un diccionario y un poco de imaginación, o mejor aún buscar a quien te pueda echar una mano, tú con la parte informática, la otra persona con la parte idiomática. Que yo sepa los scripts no están traducidos. Los datos que tengo de el són: Rango de sincronización Horiz. 31-58 khz Vert. 50-110 Hz Esto es todo lo que necesitas en cuanto al monitor. En vez de escoger un monitor concreto, escoge el custom monitor y allí dale estos datos. No te equivoques, ya que las X impedirán modos que se salgan de este rangoa (y que pueden potencialmente dañar el monitor) y si lo introduces mal puedes dañar el monitor. Durante las pruebas, ante la más mínima duda, Alt-Ctrl-Backspace te sacará de las X. Si te sale rara (no descentrada, sino rara) la pantalla, úsalo. DIRECCIONABILIDAD Frec. renovaciónFrec. horiz.NOTAS - -- 720x400 70 Hz NE31,5 kHz indicador de dos MFI modo 2 75 Hz 41,8kHz 640x480 60 Hz NE31,5 kHZVESA 640x480 72 Hz NE35,5 kHZVESA 640x480 75 Hz NE37,5 kHZVESA 640x480 85 Hz NE43,3 kHZVESA 800x600 72 HZ NE48,1 kHZVESA 800x600 75 Hz NE46,9 kHZVESA 800x600 85 Hz NE53,7 kHZVESA 1024x76843 Hz E 35,5 kHZ Entrelazado 1024X76870 Hz NE56,5 kHZVESA 1024X76872 Hz NE58,1 kHZ La función 00h de la BIOS VESA ha devuelto: (resultados de un programa DOS desde W95) Firma .: VESA Version VESA ..: 2.0 Informacion del fabricante : SIS super VGA chip. Informacion del hardware ..: DAC de mas de 6 bits de RGB El hardware no es 100% compatible VGA RAMDAC clasico Modos disponibles .: 108h 109h 102h 104h 106h 100h 101h 103h 105h 107h 10dh 110h 113h 116h 10eh 111h 114h 117h 10fh 112h 115h Memoria de video ..: 2048 Kb Version del software ..: 0.8 Informacion del Vendedor ..: Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Informacion del Producto ..: SiS 6205 Estos son todos los datos que tengo, agradecería que alguien me dijese que es lo que he de hacer. En cuanto al monitor, nada más. Bueno, una cosa sí, pero en vez de. Cuando ya lo tengas funcionando, para escoger un modo que te quede igual que el Windows, busca en algún mirror de sunsite el paquete SVGATextmode, en concreto la parte DOS sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/utils/console 266k SVGATextMode-1.8-dos.tar.gz Dentro de ese paquete hay un programa llamado grabwin. Cuando tengas tu consola Windows a tu gusto, lánzalo desde Windows y apunta los resultados. Vendrán en la forma en que le gustan al XF86Config. Así que vete a /etc/X11, edita el XF86Config e introduce esa línea para que te reconozca ese modo. Haz esto únicamente después de que estés familiarizado con la configuración de las X, no antes. En cuanto a la tarjeta gráfica, no tengo ni idea de la que lleva el Aptiva, lo siento. -- = Agustín Martín Domingo, Dpto. de Física, ETS Arquitectura Madrid, (U. Politécnica de Madrid) tel: +34 +1 3366536, Fax: +34 +1 3366554, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Communicator 4.04
Juan Carlos Muro wrote: PD1: De paso decidme tb si se puede cambiar el editor por defecto del elm para que no sea el vi y que sea por ejemplo el joe. No se con elm. Con otros programas basta incluir en el profile un valor para la variable de entorno EDITOR, p.ej. export EDITOR=joe -- = Agustín Martín Domingo, Dpto. de Física, ETS Arquitectura Madrid, (U. Politécnica de Madrid) tel: +34 +1 3366536, Fax: +34 +1 3366554, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mensajes de error del kernel...
Necesito ayuda para descubrir porqué al arrancar el sistema el kernel me da los siguientes mensajes de error: SIOCSIFADDR: no such device (o algo así...) SIOCSINETMASK: no such device. SIOCSI no me acuerdo del tercero... La cuestión es que llevo detrás de ello varios días y no encuentro la razón. Me he recompilado el kernel (2.0.33 de bo-updates...) un par de veces y no he conseguido nada. Suena como si se refiriera a algo de red, pero no lo encuentro. Tengo habilitado el networking y solo utilizo el ppp como módulo... La verdad es que no se porqué o de dónde sale... ¿Alguna idea?... Si no me equivoco, esos mensajes aparecen al ejecutarse el script /etc/init.d/network que tiene que activar los parámetros de tu tarjeta de red. Supongo que no la tienes activa (o no la tienes en absoluto). En ese caso dicho script debe decir simplemente lo siguiente: #! /bin/sh ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 route add -net 127.0.0.0 Si dice algo más es que has configurado tu sistema como si tuvieras una conexión permanente, a través de tarjeta de red. Efectivamente era eso. Debe ser que al instalar el sistema desde el cd me lie y configuré la red como si tuviera conexión permanente... (más quisiera... :-). Gracias a todos los que me habéis ayudado!!! Por cierto, voy a aprovechar para consultaros otra cosa con la que tengo mis dudas... Normalmente es el administrador del sistema el que se encarga de limpiar todos los ficheros de /var/log/ de vez en cuando, pero cotillenado en /etc/cron*/ he visto que se llama a 'savelog' de vez en cuando. Lo que pasa es que veo que mis ficheros de log no dejan de crecer... ¿Hay alguna manera de definir el tamaño máximo de los ficheros de log, o hay que hacerlo a mano y borrarlos de vez en cuando? ¿Se puede automatizar de alguna manera? Gracias por la ayuda de nuevo... Saludos a todos... -- Nacho Más Ivars If you can keep your head when all mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] about you are losing theirs and Tfn: 970 79 31 94 blaming it on you... P.O.Box: 13106 28080 Madrid (Spain) (Rudyard Kipling) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Archivo de lista
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Angel Vicente Perez wrote: ¿Sabe alguien si existe un archivo de esta lista, al igual que existe para otras listas de Debian? Si, http://www.debian.org/List-Archives/ y busca por alli debian-user-spanish. (Como a media camino) Enrique me señaló muy amablemente que esto no es cierto ;-) (estaba casi seguro de haber visto eso allí, pero creo que me confundí con debian-i10n-spanish). De cualquier forma, en este momento los servidores http de Debian están un poco quisquillosos y los encargados están, pues, hmmm... encargándose del asunto :-) Cuando los archivos de las listas estén en forma nuevamente le solicitaré a los administradores que debian-user-spanish se ponga en línea también. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Donde estoy!!!!
Primeramente gracias a todos por su ayuda que paso a paso esto caminando con linux. Mi pregunta es la siguente hay alguna forma de saber donde estoy en el hard drive o mas bien asi por ejemplo doy un cd /dev/cdrom yo se que estoy en cdrom pero hay alguna forma que mi prompt me lo indique automaticamente? Tambien hay alguna forma de cambiar el promt por ejemplo X# or $ donde X = prompt? yo e visto en otros sistemas que cada ves que le doy log in me da un mesaje de bienvenida y me aparece el nombre de la maquin y luego $ como se hace eso como viejo usuario de dos algo asi como un prompt $p$s dentro del un autoexec.bat como ago esto en linux Lo e buscado por todos lados pero no lo encuentro !! Gracias por su ayuda!!! Estuardo Rivera Linux the next generation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Donde estoy!!!!
Siempre puedes usar el comando pwd. Si usas bash (por defecto, en Debian, es así), has de poner una variable PS1 adecuada. Por ejemplo, en tu fichero .profile ($HOME/.profile) puedes poner: PS1=\h(\u)-\W Y tu prompt será del siguiente tipo: hola(jgb)-/etc (donde hola es mi máquina, jgb mi id y /etc ekl directorio en el que estoy en ese momento) Más info: escribe man bash Jesus. Estuardo Rivera writes: Primeramente gracias a todos por su ayuda que paso a paso esto caminando con linux. Mi pregunta es la siguente hay alguna forma de saber donde estoy en el hard drive o mas bien asi por ejemplo doy un cd /dev/cdrom yo se que estoy en cdrom pero hay alguna forma que mi prompt me lo indique automaticamente? Tambien hay alguna forma de cambiar el promt por ejemplo X# or $ donde X = prompt? yo e visto en otros sistemas que cada ves que le doy log in me da un mesaje de bienvenida y me aparece el nombre de la maquin y luego $ como se hace eso como viejo usuario de dos algo asi como un prompt $p$s dentro del un autoexec.bat como ago esto en linux Lo e buscado por todos lados pero no lo encuentro !! Gracias por su ayuda!!! Estuardo Rivera Linux the next generation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jesus M. Gonzalez Barahona | Grupo de Sistemas y Comunicaciones tel +3491 624 9458, fax +3491 624 9430 | Departamento de Informatica [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Universidad Carlos III de Madrid http://www.gsyc.inf.uc3m.es/~jgb | c/ Butarque, 15, 28911 Leganes, Spain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect trouble
Angel Martin Alganza writes: Hola a todos, Al intentar instalar un paquete con dselect el bicho me dice: Could not find state file (re-run Access method) at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install line 28. Ni idea de qué te habrá pasado exactamente. Nunca he visto ese mensaje con dselect. Pero simplemente traduciendo del inglés, parece que has de volver a la opción Access, y elegir un método de acceso al sitio donde esté la distribución de Debian que quieras usar. Parece que o no tienes seleccionada ninguna, o la que tienes seleccionada no funciona. Por ejemplo, supongo que podría pasar eso si el servidor de FTP que has elegido no existe. Jesus. PS: Y perdona si mi respuesta es demasiado obvia y ya habías sobreentendido eso. installation script returned error exit status 2. Press RETURN to continue. Y, tras pulsar RETORNO, vuelve al menu principal de dselect sin hacer nada más. Alguna idea? Gracias de antemano, Ángel __ Angel MARTIN ALGANZA Telephone: +49-(0)8157-932.410 Fax 400 Max-Planck-Institut fuerGSM: +49-(0)172-8967.178 Verhaltensphysiologie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] D-82319 Seewiesen talk:[EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN:5334825 Deutschlandhttp://www.mpi-seewiesen.mpg.de/~alganza/ __ If you cannot see this message properly you should use ISO-8859-1 char set -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jesus M. Gonzalez Barahona | Grupo de Sistemas y Comunicaciones tel +3491 624 9458, fax +3491 624 9430 | Departamento de Informatica [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Universidad Carlos III de Madrid http://www.gsyc.inf.uc3m.es/~jgb | c/ Butarque, 15, 28911 Leganes, Spain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect trouble
At 19:57 4/21/98 +0200, you wrote: Ni idea de qué te habrá pasado exactamente. Nunca he visto ese mensaje con dselect. Pero simplemente traduciendo del inglés, parece que has de volver a la opción Access, y elegir un método de acceso al sitio donde esté la distribución de Debian que quieras usar. Parece que o no tienes seleccionada ninguna, o la que tienes seleccionada no funciona. Por ejemplo, supongo que podría pasar eso si el servidor de FTP que has elegido no existe. Que vergüenza, leches!!! jajaja No identificaba el Access method con el access del menú de dselect. Pa matarme, vamos! Solucionado ya :) Mil gracias, Ángel __ Angel MARTIN ALGANZA Telephone: +49-(0)8157-932.410 Fax 400 Max-Planck-Institut fuerGSM: +49-(0)172-8967.178 Verhaltensphysiologie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] D-82319 Seewiesen talk:[EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN:5334825 Deutschlandhttp://www.mpi-seewiesen.mpg.de/~alganza/ __ If you cannot see this message properly you should use ISO-8859-1 char set -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No hay manera con las x's (archivos que faltan)
Lamento el error al enviar el mensaje anterior, corregiendo lo anterior aqui les posteo los archivos. Nuevamente grácias, J. Parera -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archivos que faltan
ahora si :) SuperProbe Version 2.14 (20 May 1997) (c) Copyright 1993,1994 by David Wexelblat [EMAIL PROTECTED] This work is derived from the 'vgadoc2.zip' and 'vgadoc3.zip' documentation packages produced by Finn Thoegersen, and released with all appropriate permissions having been obtained. Additional information obtained from 'Programmer's Guide to the EGA and VGA, 2nd ed', by Richard Ferraro, and from manufacturer's data books The author welcomes bug reports and other comments mailed to the electronic mail address above. In particular, reports of chipsets that this program fails to correctly detect are appreciated. Before submitting a report, please make sure that you have the latest version of SuperProbe (see http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ). First video: Super-VGA Chipset: Silicon Integrated Systems SG86C205 (PCI Probed) Memory: 1024 Kbytes RAMDAC: Generic 8-bit pseudo-color DAC (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))
Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
Paul Miller writes: [snip] hmm... I have 64 megs of EDO RAM and two ~104 meg swap paritions and Linux rarely touches them, and even if it does, it only uses less than 10 megs.. Has Linux decided my 6-year old, 208 meg drive is too slow? NO, Linux does not care. You have to determine if that drive is too slow for your usage. I've also had a swap parition on a 3-year old 1.2 WD drive, it's not UDMA, but it is 310% faster than the older drive.. Linux didn't touch that either .. I've even tried to make Linux use it by openning tons of huges X programs (i.e. multiple Netscape windows) and it'd only use about 15 megs at max. Try using different programs. Shared libraries make using the same program a lesson in futility (as it should be). I suggest cdda2wav + X-windows/netscape + find something as a better test. I have a 6.4 WD UDMA drive installed now, maybe I should try it out. Is it worth it? BTW- the hdparm -t values for those IDE drives are approximately 1.05 megs/sec, 3.27 megs/sec, 8.51 megs/sec, respectively. Yep, those are about right. A SCSI-1 system is around 5 Megs/sec, A SCSI-2 around 10 megs/sec, and SCSI-3 about 20 megs/sec. I believe a ultra-wide SCSI-3 tops at 40 megs/sec. Anyone knowing better than I is invited to enlighten/educate me. 8-) Try this just giggles: /usr/sbin/hdparm -c1 -X34 -m16 (or whatever the multisector factor is) /dev/hda (or whichever drive you want) The above combination should bring up your IDE performance. Check the manpage for hdparm _before_ invoking the above. 8-) -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X11 setup
I am a Linux novice attempting to set up X11R6 on my 486 system. I had proceded to the mouse set up at one point using the graphical set up program but (due to a little stupidity) my computer locked up and I had to shut it off with out properly exiting Linux. Since it was the first install I decided just to refomat the drive (125Mb just for testing Linux and X) and reinstall. Now all times since this (even after reformatting) I get the following errors in Dselect while trying to install X. Xlib5 setup in deselect ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (no such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (no such file or directory), skipping xserver-vga (3.3-3) in deselect current default X server /bin/false found (how is this possible after I reformat the hard disk?) XFree86 file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc is missing Also when it asks to create a new config file for X (select y or n) and I ask it to create a new one, it gives the errors shown above in xlib6 setup until I select n. All the other packages install ok, why does X seem to be missing files and find some /bin/false/ found which shouldn't be there? Thanks for any help you can give. Mark Panzer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
autoup.sh v0.24 released (was Re: autoup.sh bug)
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 07:15:23PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: I did a bo--hamm upgrade over the weekend using your autoup.sh: $Id: autoup.sh,v 0.23 1998/03/26 15:31:10 root Exp root $ and got this when it got to installing dpkg: dpkg: regarding .../base/dpkg_1.4.0.22.deb containing dpkg, pre-dependency problem: dpkg pre-depends on libstdc++2.8 libstdc++2.8 is not installed. dpkg: error processing /mirror/Debian/dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/base/dpkg_1.4.0.22.deb (--install): pre-dependency problem - not installing dpkg which suggests to me that the libstdc++ needs to be added to the list of things that are installed before dpkg. I've just released version 0.24 which fixes this (and a few minor problems too). v0.24: 1998-04-21 (Craig Sanders) - added libstdc++, libslang0.99.34 (libc5), libslang0.99.38 (libc6), netbase, and netstd to the list of packages to install. - changed 'unstable' to 'frozen' in various places. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] reported that the downloading the files to /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp messes up the ftp method somehow. changed TRY to /tmp/autoup. -- craig sanders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux as a eMail/Internet server.
Hi there fellow Linux fans (Debian and the like!) About 6 months ago I stumbled upon the greatest find of my life. Someone had told me about a wonderful OS that multitasked great, handled 100's of users, had very little requiremets and was a all round OS for anyone. So, I downloaded Debain GNU Linux and gave it a try. I was most impressed by it AND by the help I got from this list. Via this list I managed to get a copy of tri-linux for free (postage included to South Africa). I now have a great little 386 running Debian Linux that I use to fiddle with. I now consider myself quite an expert with it :) I am only 16 years old and do WWW site design, computer repairs and installations, etc... I am currently working at a Computer Resourse Centre. We have decided to get an account with the Western Cape Schools Network (as we are part of a school) which offers UUCP email with a domain (i.e [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for a negligible amount. The software that they recomend for Windows will cost us a fortune. They have not suggested anything else in the way of software. I then sugested to the owner about Linux. I spent the day explaining to him all about it. He was very impressed and said that it would be a great option to think about... We have about 20 + computers ranging from P100's to P200's. They all have win95 osr 1 or 2 and NE2000 compliant network cards. The network is running on Windows IPX stuff. (Totally a microsoft network). We would like to have the Linux server dial up as needed to offer email (via uucp) and internet access (via ppp) for the pupils/customers. I want UUCP to dial up on a schedule and have the ppp connection connect when needed (ie when Netscape for IE starts on the win95 computer) I was hoping that someone out there may be able to help me through this and give me (step my step!) instructions or better ideas on what to do. I was going to create an account for all of the students on the Linux box and get UUCP to filter email accordingly. Then I was going to run a pop server (slakware has one built in) on the Linux side and let the computers connect via the network to Linux with Outlook express and get the users email. The Linux box will NOT have a direct connection to the Internet. I have managed to get a PPP connection with my ISP at home with Netscape on X. That is as far as i have gotten! I would appreciate ANY help that I can get. I am not on this list, so could you please maybe email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this works, then there are many other places that I know of that would go for Linux. I hope to get the whole of my community onto Linux soon I am also thinking of starting a LUG here (any info about your LUG would be appreciated!!!) I really hope that this will succeed!!! P.S I want to run XFree86 on my 386 with Hercules. At the back of my monitor it says 50-60Hz or KHz (cant remember!?) Please, if anyone has had any experience with Hercules and X, I would appreciate your help!! Sorry for all of the questions Linux rulez --- Your's Sincerely, PO Box 43933 Alistair Phillips Fish Hoek Tel +27 (0)21 785 5265 7975 South Africa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PINE Debian Package
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, George Bonser wrote: No, I think someone is taking the politics of free software to an extreme. It looks like someone in Debian decided that their patches to configure it resulted in a derivative work and since pine does not allow derivative works to be called pine, it looks like it got yanked. That can't be right. One, because it could still go in non-free, only with a different name. Debian doesn't yank stuff from non-free unless it's illegal to have on the ftp server (in which case it has to be yanked, no matter what our politics). Two, because I just downloaded it. See: http://cgi.debian.org/www-master/debian.org/Packages/stable/non-free/pine.html It may well be gone from frozen, I don't know, but that could be due to bugs not licensing, or the lack of a maintainer. Mutt is, at best, a very weak replacement for Pine. As for text email clients, Pine has no equal and is free enough for most uses. If Debian is going to start producing a crappy distribution just because it is free, I will pay for one that is not. The whole purpose of Debian is to be free, that's more or less the charter of the organization, to the extent that it has one. If it's ever impossible to produce a good free distribution Debian will be discontinued, and you'll not only be able to pay for a good one, you'll have to. Assuming there is one. I do not use Debian because it is free, I use Debian because it has been good. If emphasis is going to be on free rather than good, you are making a mistake. The vision is that the two coincide, and when they don't, they should be made to. In this case, by improving mutt or vm or any of the other zillion mail programs. But until then there's the non-free directory, which includes any non-free programs that are legal to distribute and have maintainers. Freeness is the original purpose of Debian, and by long consensus there is a commitment to that. It's quite simple to start your own dist with the Debian non-free and main directories combined, plus the other stuff of your choice. But there's no point beating your head on a brick wall to change Debian. I have needed to get that off my chest ever since I noticed pine missing. Pine is not an optional compinent for me, it is MANDITORY. There is nothing in the distribution that comes close to replacing it. Relax, I think it's still there. Havoc Pennington http://pobox.com/~hp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: autoup.sh v0.25 released
BTW, i've also made some changes to my http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup site. 1. updated autoup.tar.gz to have the latest versions of all the needed packages. 2. made it accessible as ftp://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup (some people requested this) 3. made a debfiles/ directory which contains all the individual packages in autoup.tar.gz for people who want to download them one at a time. if anyone mirrors this then they should probably just exclude the large binaries from their mirror and run the make-tarfiles.sh script locallysaves mirroring 14mb of stuff which they should already have in their local mirror. craig -- craig sanders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PINE Debian Package
George == George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, I think someone is taking the politics of free software to an extreme. It looks like someone in Debian decided that their patches to configure it resulted in a derivative work and since pine does not allow derivative works to be called pine, it looks like it got yanked. What about the pine package that /is/ in non-free? It apparently has not been yanked - only moved to non-free, which seems a reasonable place for non-free software. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: autoup.sh v0.25 released
I've just released version 0.24 which fixes this (and a few minor problems too). v0.24: 1998-04-21 (Craig Sanders) - added libstdc++, libslang0.99.34 (libc5), libslang0.99.38 (libc6), netbase, and netstd to the list of packages to install. - changed 'unstable' to 'frozen' in various places. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] reported that the downloading the files to /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp messes up the ftp method somehow. changed TRY to /tmp/autoup. make that 0.25. i forgot to disable the debugging stuff before releasing it. v0.25: 1998-04-21 (Craig Sanders) - remembered to disable debugging stuff so that the script actually does something. craig -- craig sanders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re-compiling Kernel error
I am trying to recompile my kernel in order to get sound and I am getting a strange error. I ran make xxconfig aand then make-kpkg andd then I get these errors: ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x10 -e stext arch/i386/kernel/head.o init/main.o init/version.o \ arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o net/network.a \ fs/filesystems.a \ drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/net/net.a drivers/sound/sound.a drivers/pci/pci.a arch/i386/math-emu/math.a \ /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/arch/i386/lib/lib.a /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/lib/lib.a /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/arch/i386/lib/lib.a -o vmlinux nm vmlinux | grep -v '\(compiled\)\|\(\.o$\)\|\( a \)' | sort System.map make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/arch/i386/boot' as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s make[3]: as86: Command not found make[3]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29/arch/i386/boot' make[2]: *** [bzImage] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29' make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.29' make: *** [stamp-image] Error 2 Any ideas on what is wrong? TIA. -- Jim Crumley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re-compiling Kernel error
I am trying to recompile my kernel in order to get sound and I am getting a strange error. I ran make xxconfig aand then make-kpkg andd then I get these errors: snip Sorry to reply to my own message, but I forgot to mention that I am running a bo system. Let me if there is any other useful information that I forgot. -- Jim Crumley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emacs
I realize this isn't specifically a Debian question -- but which versions of emacs have postscript-mode? Also, I have a large .el file that works great under emacs 19, but not under emacs 20. Should I expect to be able to port it so that it works under both versions, or just focus on emacs 20? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux as a eMail/Internet server.
Alistair, I setup Linux at my home to give my wife and I access to the internet using only one dialup line. We both run Windows 95 and we have [almost] seamless internet access. When we need an Internet connection, the Internet is dialed and PPP is automagically connected. :) Here is how it's done: 1.) Set up your Linux machine for routing. Refer to the mini HOWTO IP-Subnetworking for instructions and a good explanation on subnetworking. 2.) Install the diald package. This will handle the automatic PPP connections. 3.) Install the sendmail and popper packages to handle SMTP and POP3 email services. Give each user a login so he/she can check mail. 4.) Install the fetchmail package. Run fetchmail in daemon mode to check mail periodically. I have the service script for /etc/init.d if you need it. This DOES NOT meet your UUCP requirement. This requires all of the students to have a separate POP account on a machine or machines that do have permanent connections to the Internet. I have no experience with UUCP, so perhaps someone else can help here. I have heard that you can have servers 'hold' mail bound for your server, but I haven't needed this, so I haven't investigated. And that is all that there is to it. Scott D. Killen Scott Killen Software http://www.skillsoft.com -Original Message- From: Alistair Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 19, 1998 11:51 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Linux as a eMail/Internet server. Hi there fellow Linux fans (Debian and the like!) About 6 months ago I stumbled upon the greatest find of my life. Someone had told me about a wonderful OS that multitasked great, handled 100's of users, had very little requiremets and was a all round OS for anyone. So, I downloaded Debain GNU Linux and gave it a try. I was most impressed by it AND by the help I got from this list. Via this list I managed to get a copy of tri-linux for free (postage included to South Africa). I now have a great little 386 running Debian Linux that I use to fiddle with. I now consider myself quite an expert with it :) I am only 16 years old and do WWW site design, computer repairs and installations, etc... I am currently working at a Computer Resourse Centre. We have decided to get an account with the Western Cape Schools Network (as we are part of a school) which offers UUCP email with a domain (i.e [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for a negligible amount. The software that they recomend for Windows will cost us a fortune. They have not suggested anything else in the way of software. I then sugested to the owner about Linux. I spent the day explaining to him all about it. He was very impressed and said that it would be a great option to think about... We have about 20 + computers ranging from P100's to P200's. They all have win95 osr 1 or 2 and NE2000 compliant network cards. The network is running on Windows IPX stuff. (Totally a microsoft network). We would like to have the Linux server dial up as needed to offer email (via uucp) and internet access (via ppp) for the pupils/customers. I want UUCP to dial up on a schedule and have the ppp connection connect when needed (ie when Netscape for IE starts on the win95 computer) I was hoping that someone out there may be able to help me through this and give me (step my step!) instructions or better ideas on what to do. I was going to create an account for all of the students on the Linux box and get UUCP to filter email accordingly. Then I was going to run a pop server (slakware has one built in) on the Linux side and let the computers connect via the network to Linux with Outlook express and get the users email. The Linux box will NOT have a direct connection to the Internet. I have managed to get a PPP connection with my ISP at home with Netscape on X. That is as far as i have gotten! I would appreciate ANY help that I can get. I am not on this list, so could you please maybe email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this works, then there are many other places that I know of that would go for Linux. I hope to get the whole of my community onto Linux soon I am also thinking of starting a LUG here (any info about your LUG would be appreciated!!!) I really hope that this will succeed!!! P.S I want to run XFree86 on my 386 with Hercules. At the back of my monitor it says 50-60Hz or KHz (cant remember!?) Please, if anyone has had any experience with Hercules and X, I would appreciate your help!! Sorry for all of the questions Linux rulez --- Your's Sincerely, PO Box 43933 Alistair Phillips Fish Hoek Tel +27 (0)21 785 5265 7975 South Africa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re-compiling Kernel error
Any ideas on what is wrong? You need to install the bin86 package, which contains the as86 program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
laptop install help
I'm installing 1.3.1 from floppy to a Toshiba Satellite Pro 400CS, and am having some trouble. The actual install went fine, up until the end where you get dropped in dselect. I installed the dpkg-ftp package (and all its dependencies, like Perl), but can't get my modem to work. (Since the machine has no cd-rom or ethernet card, I plan on installing the rest of the system via modem, so getting this to work is essential). I've got a Megahertz PCMCIA 14.4 fax/modem card that was recognized as com2 by the win311 software that came with the laptop. There were no cua? devices in /dev so I made cua0 and cua1 using the MAKEDEV script, made a /dev/modem symlink from cua1, but the pon command still dies on me. I copied minicom off another machine and tried it, and haven't gotten it to recognize the modem, so I figure there must be something else to it - do I also have to install some PCMCIA software, maybe a module? Thanks for any and all help, m -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs
I realize this isn't specifically a Debian question -- but which versions of emacs have postscript-mode? AFAIK no version of Emacs come with a builtin postscript-mode. I think you will have to look for one as a third-party package. Also, I have a large .el file that works great under emacs 19, but not under emacs 20. Should I expect to be able to port it so that it works under both versions, or just focus on emacs 20? It shouldn't be too much trouble to make it work under both versions, the differences are not big. And there are lots of people still using version 19, in case you're interested in making the patches widely available. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BP AFAIK no version of Emacs come with a builtin postscript-mode. I BP think you will have to look for one as a third-party package. The Debian xemacs20-* packages have one. -- _ / \ Dad was reading a book called | David Maze | _Schroedinger's Kittens_. Asexual | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | reproduction? Only one cat is in the box. | http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ | -- Abra Mitchell \_/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zen and the art of working with NT
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: I have a linux machine here which is low on hard disk space my idea was to mount my Windows NT home directory here at work and use it for extra space (I can up my spcae by 2 gigs that way) o far I have mounted my home drive \\home5\sjc8$ on /mnt/partners with smbmount because o fmy specific problems I was trying to do the following: create a second extended filesystem in a file on the NT home dir and then mount that filesystem (I need a filesystem that will hole my files and care about case and permissions I am planning on using it to image CDs to burn (hamm hamm hamm :) ) why wont it work? I can make an e2fs filesystem but when I try to moungt it anywhere I get errors I tried the following example cd ~ touch test.e2 Here, make sure that the file is actually the size you want it to be before you use mke2fs on it, like this: $ dd if=/dev/zero of=test.e2 bs=1024k count=500 This will create a 500 MB file filled with 0x00. mke2fs -F test.e2 500 (it makes a filesystem) mkdir testmnt mount test.e2 -o loop testmnt and it moutns! then... cp test.e2 /mnt/partners mount /mnt/partners/test.e2 -o loop testmnt and I get the errors loop: block 1 not present and a bunch of others then I tried cd /mnt/partners mkdir testmnt and same deal anyone tried this? can it work? what sthe problem? The problem is that block 1 is really not present. The dd command above will make cause it to be present. I don't know if this also works if the test.e2 is on a Samba filesystem, but you could of course give it a try. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xdm
I've just started having a look at Xdm, and have decided I would like to use it if I can do two things. 1) How do you add another display (:1), I had a look at the Xservers file, and added a new line, but it died... 2) Can it be made to start in the background, so that on boot up, The first console is still showing? Hey, I like having my cake and eating it too... :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- Those who can, do. Those who can't, don't. --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop install help
I've got a Megahertz PCMCIA 14.4 fax/modem card that was recognized as com2 by the win311 software that came with the laptop. There were no cua? devices in /dev so I made cua0 and cua1 using the MAKEDEV script, made a /dev/modem symlink from cua1, but the pon command still dies on me. You may need to add the inittab entries for a serial device. Not sure as far as that goes. I copied minicom off another machine and tried it, and haven't gotten it to recognize the modem, so I figure there must be something else to it - do I also have to install some PCMCIA software, maybe a module? PCMCIA comes in the form of a module. It's generally best to get the source package and use that to recompile and install them whenever you recomile a kernel. The easiest way to get it set up to begin with is to use the hamm install disks and install the pcmcia modules as you install debian. Otherwise, you'll need to put them on a floppy and copy them over and install them. They're in teh pcmcia-cs package. --Asher Haig [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xdm
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: I've just started having a look at Xdm, and have decided I would like to use it if I can do two things. 1) How do you add another display (:1), I had a look at the Xservers file, and added a new line, but it died... In the latest xbase package, the default Xservers file contains these commented lines: # If you want to add servers yourself, please keep these things in mind: # - For each X server other than :0, the display number must be on the # command line # - This is the place to add the -bpp option to the command line # - If you run multiple X servers, it is wise to add the vtXX option to # each of them, since this is currently the only sure way of knowing # in advance which X server attaches to which console. # # Example: # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 This should be clear enough, IMHO. Heck, I wrote these lines. :-) 2) Can it be made to start in the background, so that on boot up, The first console is still showing? Well, not without a kludge. When the X server starts, it always pops up the X display. You'd need to change the X server if you want it to just start and not show up initially. But you can add a command like this to the start) section in /etc/init.d/xfs : ( sleep 10 ; chvt 1 ) This will change the screen back to console #1 ten seconds after xdm is started. Or you could add a simple 'chvt 1' command to /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 . But then the chvt command is also executed every time you exit the window manager and get the xdm login screen again. Hey, I like having my cake and eating it too... :) Yep, me too. :-) Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I now HAVE PINE Debian package.. how do I install it?
What a interesting thread my PINE question created... OK I have found a Debian package for pine, pine3.96L-2 the file is pine_3_9.deb its located on the root of /dev/hda7 , a MSDOS partition on my drive, which is not mounted by default, so if I use it in Linux I need to mount it. I want to install this version of PINE, I would prefer using dselect to make sure I have all the needed support files etc., so HOW DO I DO IT? BTW: I found this package by going to the Debian site, and searching the stable packages OK, can some one tell me how to install the thing? I have not had much success.. Thanks for your time / help Ken -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts in X [Off Topic]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I know in fact xfstt is on the list of Packages needing a new main tainer I know this list is not really the proper place for this but... since it needs a new maintainer...I am wondering what is involved in that I have been thinking for a while that I would like to pitch in and help out... ive looked over a few packages...and xfstt is a package I really like im just still a little unsure of myself and my abilities (supose its a self confidence issue)... this doesn't seem like a very hard package to keep up with and work on... anyon ehave any thoughts on whether this one is good for a first package to get ones feet wet? I really like this package and I think what it does is GREAT (it makes Netscape and other programs look so much better) ive been toying with the idea of this package and that it is needing a new maintainer for a few weeks now (I know I should probably look into the Debian-mentors list if I am considering volunteering but...between debian-devel and debian-user and BUGTRAQI have trouble keepin up with the nearly 300-500 e-maisl a day - -Steve On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: I read this now and this reminds me of a point I have meant to bring to someones attention... the debian xfstt package soes not contain the original xfstt documentation! I installed it recently (again) and actually had to download the package off of sunsite and unpack the tarball just to get the docs on how to tell X that I hada font server running! hmm...if the lack of a man page is considered a bug (I read that somewhere) would this also fall into that catergory? the docs included in the deb (unfortunately) don't even ell how to make the install usefull :( Yes, this would count as a bug in the package. But my impression from README.debian is that the maintainer doesn't really want to spend too much work on it, so probably this package is practically, though not officially, orphaned. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNTv81Xxvn0zebBV9AQGDsAQAj8m1yECDBmjuhfGZ9zM4K396b1u+Zovo 4zGME8rCdapZMYLspJNo6fk4sYukCSmIAVn4s+iPYUYx0zQSeInhqY7kfDOJ6bNz lZXX7wGeoew+k8AVDPZ5SyZNRHfYWG/U8gyoEKuO1DKyA0eSdlpjbfQDei/FAiUV 1UDkmza/emM= =tfcg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I now HAVE PINE Debian package.. how do I install it?
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Kenneth F. Ryder III wrote: What a interesting thread my PINE question created... OK I have found a Debian package for pine, pine3.96L-2 the file is pine_3_9.deb its located on the root of /dev/hda7 , a MSDOS partition on my drive, which is not mounted by default, so if I use it in Linux I need to mount it. I want to install this version of PINE, I would prefer using dselect to make sure I have all the needed support files etc., so HOW DO I DO IT? BTW: I found this package by going to the Debian site, and searching the stable packages OK, can some one tell me how to install the thing? I have not had much success.. Thanks for your time / help Once you have mounted the DOS partition so that you can access the .deb file with Linux, just issue dpkg -i pine_3_9.deb This will try to install the .deb file. If you don't have a package that pine depends on, dpkg will complain, tell you what package is needed and fail to install pine. You can then use any method to install the needed package. If you want to find ou on which packages pine depends, use this command: dpkg --info pine_3_9.deb Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop install help
I've got a Megahertz PCMCIA 14.4 fax/modem card that was recognized as com2 by the win311 software that came with the laptop. There were no cua? devices in /dev so I made cua0 and cua1 using the MAKEDEV script, made a /dev/modem symlink from cua1, but the pon command still dies on me. I copied minicom off another machine and tried it, and haven't gotten it to recognize the modem, so I figure there must be something else to it - do I also have to install some PCMCIA software, maybe a module? PCMCIA comes in the form of a module. It's generally best to get the source package and use that to recompile and install them whenever you recomile a kernel. The easiest way to get it set up to begin with is to use the hamm install disks and install the pcmcia modules as you install debian. Otherwise, you'll need to put them on a floppy and copy them over and install them. They're in teh pcmcia-cs package. Ok, I did this, but now at boot time it complains that it can't find any modules in /lib/modules/2.0.32/pcmcia/ (and its right, that directory doesn't exist). I seem to be missing something -- loaded up the rescue disk again and did not find any module option for pcmcia devices. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running XDVI from netscape
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Egon Schmid wrote: The problem is definitly bash 2.0. Try a real shell. This was an answer from a netscape person (name forgotten but can be found in the emacs manual) -Egon I linked sh to ash, but then another script with #!/bin/sh on first line broke. I took Michael Tempsch suggestion, got latest version of bash (from ftp.cdrom.com), compiled, linked it in, and it works. I am curious as to where the problem is - not to place blame but to avoid future problems. After all Linux is not Windows. King Lee I have seen this problem before. Thanks Michael for quick response. Hmm... will another shell give me still different error messages? I load ash from cdrom, and /bin/sh - /bin/ash - and IT WORKS. A problem with shells seems more serious than one with application; should I report this to someone? if so who. The problem may be with Netscape 4.04 since it seemed to have generated an illegal script with ksh. If the problem is with Netscape 4 then they already know about itA few months back I was trying to get netscape to use Play to play wav file soundsI had the exact same problem. I tried everything (including using ; ' and a cast of other chgaricters) in the definition as to trick netscape into working I had no luck at all and never thinking it could be a bug in bash reported it as a bug in netscapes bug system just thinking now... maybe if I strace netscapeit will show what the actual command line that it passes is...hmm... but if it works with ashI can see no reason as a temporary fix to change sh to link to ash (ill try it again when I get home) -Steve -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running XDVI from netscape
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:51:10 -0500 (EST) From: John Kloss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fredrik Ax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Fernando Tadeu C Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian User Mailing List debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Netscape fails to automatically open ps, ram, ... On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Fredrik Ax wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Fernando Tadeu C Brandt wrote: Netscape is showing the following error box when I try to open postscripts, sound file, etc: sh: -c line 1: missing closing ')' for arithmetic expression sh: -c line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `;' sh: -c line 1: '((gv /tmp/MO34FAF5B0003B1); rm /tmp/MO34FAF5B0003B1 )' [SNIP] This is the classic symptom of running the somewhat-buggy bash-2.0 in bo. The problem is that bash interpretates (( not as two seperate brackets but as a bracket for expression evaluated according to the arithmetic evaluation rules and therefore misses the closing )) bracket. I would suggest upgrading to hamm to get around this. There is a bo version of bash-2.05 around which provides a workaround, but you have to be very careful when you do upgrade to hamm if you have that version installed (I found out the hard way). A faster solution whould be to install ash wich is distributed in version 0.2-1 in bo. Use dselect, or for even faster install dpkg -i bo/binary/shells/ash_0.2-1.deb from your Debian 1.3x distribution. When installed change the symlink name sh in /bin to point at ash instead of bash: % cd /bin % ln -sf ash sh Okay, maybe this was a stupid thing to do, but I used emacs to edit the binaries. On line 17183 of my version of netscape (4.04) I changed the line (([EMAIL PROTECTED] %s | ^@); rm %.200s ) to ( ([EMAIL PROTECTED] %s| ^@ ); rm %.200s) and things seemed to work just fine. At least I got rvplayer to work that way and netscape doesn't crash (so far). I'm sure the better solution is to upgrade to hamm, but I'm waiting for the code freeze before I order the cd's (I just have this hangup about using something that says unstable). - John Kloss -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
inconsistent X security?
I'm currently not using xdm; I'm using startx to start X. When I don't have an .xserverrc file, X uses magic cookies. When I do have one (that simply says X -bpp 24), the security is completely disabled. What gives? How do I use an .xserverrc file without losing my security? Thanks, Phil Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re-compiling Kernel error
Hi, You need bin86. This is mentioned in the README that comes with kernel-package, the README that comes with kernel-source-*, the extended description of the kernel-source package (which is seen in dselect), the extended description of the kernel-package package. I guess I should also mention it in other places, and am open to sugestions. By the way, I strongly suggest people compiling kernel image debian packages to read the /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz file *before* attempting a compilation. manoj __ INSTALLATION NOTES: Before you go any further, please allow me to point out that you need to have a few other packages installed before you can compile your own kernels (it is difficult to compile anything without a compiler ;-). Firstly, you will need gcc, the libc development package (libc5-dev or libc6-dev at the time of writing), and, on Intel platforms, bin86. [If you use the menuconfig target of make, you will need ncursesX.X-dev, and make xconfig also requires tkX.X-dev, and other packages these depend on] The packages suggested are: devel:gcc, libc5-dev/libc6-dev, binutils, make, and, for intel x86 platforms, bin86 (non-Intel platforms don't need this). interpreters: awk, which is contained in either the mawk or gawk packages base: gzip, shellutils, and grep. [SNIP] __ -- It does not pay a prophet to be too specific. Sprague de Camp Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
weird utmp/perl problem
Okay, I've got a strange problem here. I'm trying to build a .deb, using
the devscripts tools and dpkg-dev...
I get a utmp error when I try to build:
$ build
no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME (brad) at
/usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16.
okay, not a disaster, there, but sometimes it eventually dies anyway,
because it can't find LOGNAME either, or the uid of some process...?
at first I thought maybe the problem was caused by the utmp
incompatibility between libc5 and libc6, even though I have a 100% hamm
system, and I even tried deleting utmp and wtmp and rebooting.
that didn't work, so I don't believe utmp is really the problem,
especially since this is the only place I've ever gotten a utmp-related
error.
so, I look at the source of the error in /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl
if (defined ($ENV{'LOGNAME'})) {
if (!defined (getlogin ())) {
warn (sprintf ('no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME
(%s)', $ENV{'LOGNAME'}));
} else {
now I'm suspicious, so I write a test script using my two-bit perl skills:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
if (defined (getlogin ())) {
warn (sprintf ('no utmp entry available'));
} else {
warn (sprintf ('utmp entry is (%s)',
getlogin()));
}
and run it:
$./testutmp
utmp entry is (brad) at ./test line 6.
can anybody give me some help as to why this script works, but
/usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl fails?
thanks,
brad
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Telnet Proxy anyone?
Has anyone heard of a telnet-proxy package (especially for linux and Debian of course)? We have some people who have (and want to keep) their subnet blocked for offsite access (so they do all their WWW browsing via a WWWcache which can then be billed for). I was wondering if there is something we can do like this for telnet. Any ideas? TIA 8---8 Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 8---8 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MP3 encoding
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Corey Miller wrote: Does anyone know of any good mp3 encoding programs for linux? Thanks, Corey Miller look for l3enc (I think it is in the hamm distribution) Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windoze 95 is not multi-tasking, it just pretends it is
DAVID B. TEAGUE writes: [snip] HEAR HEAR! This is not inappropriate discussion for the Deb User list. I too play double bass myself (or bass violin as Professor Murray Grodner called it, and the folk who succeeded Professor Grodner and his wife at Lemur Music call it as well.) Marcus, I share your classic guitar interest, as well, though I certainly wouldn't say I _play_ classical guitar. I have attempted to play it, and would not find a word or two about either topic inappropriate. If you want to talk double bass, instruments, music, etc, I'll be delighted to talk to you about it. Is this is maybe more border line than Windows 95 crud software? Nah, no more borderline than some of the spam that has been on this list before 8-) Those who do not wish to participate in the thread, please use the delete function. bass violin... never knew that 8-) The closest I get to playing any instrument is via MIDI sequencing. I wonder if jazz ever got debianized -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
stuck with only 1 xterm in X
does anyone know how to open several xterm in X,i'd like to run more commands/program in X but dont know how (i tried to open another xterm from the first one but then,i could not use the first xterm since the where no longer any prompt) also, how do i start X when booting my computer,it's well enough configured to my liking that i'd like to have it running every time i open my computer. thanks a lot. Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xdm
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Michael Beattie wrote: I've just started having a look at Xdm, and have decided I would like to use it if I can do two things. 1) How do you add another display (:1), I had a look at the Xservers file, and added a new line, but it died... In the latest xbase package, the default Xservers file contains these commented lines: # If you want to add servers yourself, please keep these things in mind: # - For each X server other than :0, the display number must be on the # command line # - This is the place to add the -bpp option to the command line # - If you run multiple X servers, it is wise to add the vtXX option to # each of them, since this is currently the only sure way of knowing # in advance which X server attaches to which console. # # Example: # :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 # :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 This should be clear enough, IMHO. Heck, I wrote these lines. :-) Thanks, that works :) 2) Can it be made to start in the background, so that on boot up, The first console is still showing? Well, not without a kludge. When the X server starts, it always pops up the X display. You'd need to change the X server if you want it to just start and not show up initially. But you can add a command like this to the start) section in /etc/init.d/xfs : ( sleep 10 ; chvt 1 ) This will change the screen back to console #1 ten seconds after xdm is started. Or you could add a simple 'chvt 1' command to /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 . But then the chvt command is also executed every time you exit the window manager and get the xdm login screen again. hmmm that looks like it could be useful... :) thanks. Hey, I like having my cake and eating it too... :) Yep, me too. :-) hehe.. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- Drive nail here ( ) to need a new monitor. --- Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE Problem
I have installed the latest version of kde from hamm when I type kde I get the following error: kde: error in loading shared libraries /usr/X11R6/lib/libkdecore.so.0: undefined symbol: __ti8QListBox It is clear that one of the libraries that I am using is not up to date can anyone tell which? thanks Oz Dror -- NAME Oz Dror, Los Angeles, California EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux since 8/15/94 PHONE Fax (310) 474-3126 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hamm FAT 32
Greetings all, just a quick question..does hamm have built-in support to read FAT-32 Partitions Regards, jd? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 setup
Xlib5 setup in deselect ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (no such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (no such file or directory), skipping it did that when i installed a second time debian 1.3.1 (and basically every time i installed it),i dont give it much tought (i dont think it's an important error). xserver-vga (3.3-3) in deselect current default X server /bin/false found (how is this possible after I reformat the hard disk?) because it found no default server,it give /bin/false,i dont give it much tough either (the system is still useable and X run without any problem). XFree86 file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc is missing this one is an error i care about (it's because i haven't seen it in my last install and this file is needed for the good working of X). Also when it asks to create a new config file for X (select y or n) and I ask it to create a new one, it gives the errors shown above in xlib6 setup until I select n. All the other packages install ok, why does X seem to be missing files and find some /bin/false/ found which shouldn't be there? Thanks for any help you can give. one thing i'd like to know is did you install everything you wanted at once or just installed the base system,if you installed the whole shoebang,i dont recommend it,the way i did proceed to install my distribution is to install only what's selected in the dselect menu for a base install,nothing more,after,i did update my installation by indicating dselect to include the package file from bo-unstable and only after that i did a next round installing the rest of the stuff i needed,now this system work fine. Mark Panzer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zen and the art of working with NT
Hallo erstmal! Stephen Carpenter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): create a second extended filesystem in a file on the NT home dir and then mount that filesystem (I need a filesystem that will hole my some time ago I tried the same, and somebody told me loop support doesn't work with any remote FS. According to that I wasn't successful with smbfs and nfs. Regards Rainer -- KeyID=58341901 fingerprint=A5 57 04 B3 69 88 A1 FB 78 1D B5 64 E0 BF 72 EB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts in X [Off Topic]
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: I was told that XFSTT had a new maintainer when I asked to adopt it... so I guess we are both to late. MUCH SNIPED -K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing xterm titles to something more usefull than 'xterm'
this one has a color prompt.. :) heh. cewl. I'm using yours now. :) I noticed mine was really dumb because it executes all of those programs every time a new prompt is issued. I guess the first two should have been pointed toward env variables. Still, I like yours better. :) As for the current command executing, maybe for specific commands you'd like to see in the titlebar, you could wrap them with a shell of some sort. Then the sub-shell would update the title before executing the command. So... docmd.sh: #!/bin/sh echo -n ^[]2;[EMAIL PROTECTED] exec $@ Then alias the commands you want like: alias find=docmd.sh find Then run something like: find / -name *.cxx -print This worked for me anyway. BTW, thanks for that prompt! :) -mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faster swap by using separate disk?
In debian-user Thomas Kocourek wrote: Paul Miller writes: I have a 6.4 WD UDMA drive installed now, maybe I should try it out. Is it worth it? BTW- the hdparm -t values for those IDE drives are approximately 1.05 megs/sec, 3.27 megs/sec, 8.51 megs/sec, respectively. Yep, those are about right. A SCSI-1 system is around 5 Megs/sec, A SCSI-2 around 10 megs/sec, and SCSI-3 about 20 megs/sec. I believe a ultra-wide SCSI-3 tops at 40 megs/sec. Anyone knowing better than I is invited to enlighten/educate me. 8-) I was going to correct you, but then I realized that there was no error in what you said. Since I know that there are a lot of people who will assume that system==drive, just let me note that the speeds you quote are the bus speeds. Most drives will never come very near those speeds (for example, my very fast Fujitsu 4.3 Go SCSI-2 7200 rpm drive will attain 8 MB/s, and I don't think drives with better interfaces (U, W, UW) will go very much better). The advantage, of course, is that if you have many drives, you are limited by the bus speed and not by the drive speeds. Hmm. Was this a troll, maybe? -- #include std_disclaim.h Lorens Kockum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stuck with only 1 xterm in X
Hi,
Firstly, you could try starting the second xterm inside the
first one like so:
% xterm
See the `' symbol? That send the xterm launched into the background,
and returns your command prompt on the first xterm. Voila! tow
command prompts ;-)
Secondly, you should look into installing and running a window
manager like twm (the standard, vanilla window manager), fvwm2 (the
middle of the road window manager), fvwm95 looks like windows ;-(;
wmaker (supposedly, the window manager fo the future, still lacks
feature I have grown used to). However, this is highly subh=jective,
and doubtless I shall be flamed ercilessly.
When starting, X looks for a file called .xsession (or
.xinitrc, I forget what the default is now). I am including a copy of
my .xsession to use as an example (do not just copy it over, I have a
myriad of things in there that you do not need).
Hope this helps.
manoj
--
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G. Ingersoll
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#!/bin/sh
# Merge in defaults and keymaps
umask 022
export default_dir=${default_dir:=$HOME}
userresources=$default_dir/.Xresources
usermodmap=$default_dir/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/usr/lib/X11/xdm/.Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/lib/X11/.Xmodmap
# load common variables
if test -f $default_dir/.bash_vars ; then
. $default_dir/.bash_vars
fi
if [ ! $DISPLAY -o $DISPLAY = :0.0 ]; then
DISPLAY=`hostname`:0
fi
if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi
if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi
if [ -f $userresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $userresources
fi
if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
xmodmap $usermodmap
fi
# This is useful if you use ssh
eval $(ssh-agent)
ssh-add /dev/null
xset -c b 95 s default
#xwrits +frugal +iconified +clock +beep +breakclock +lock
#xearth -pos 42.22.41 -77.75 #-orbit 51.6 234.8
##xearth -label -grid -pos orbit,1,41.67 -fork
#tvtwm -s
#nice xcb -l v -geometry 200x500-0+365
#nice sunclock -icongeometry -0+0 -iconic
#xvtdl
#nice pland
xicon
#nice xmultibiff -mail ~/var/spool/mail/{important,admin,digital,bcast}
#nice xwalld
if [ -z $MANPATH ]; then
MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/man; export MANPATH
fi
# Start some shelltools and the window manager
if test -x /usr/bin/X11/fvwm2; then
#fvwm2 -f FvwmM4 -m4prog /usr/bin/m4 .fvwm2rc
/usr/bin/X11/fvwm2
elif [ -x /usr/bin/X11/fvwm ]; then
/usr/bin/X11/fvwm
elif [ -x /usr/bin/X11/twm ]; then
/usr/bin/X11/twm
fi
# xkeycaps -kbd ms104
exec xterm -ut -T login -n login -fg Black -bg LightSteelBlue -geometry
80x24+10+93 -ls
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IDE CD writer
I am running Debian bo (1.3). We have recently purchased a HP cd writer (Model 7100i, IDE interface). The cd-writer howto and other related docs talk of burning cd's, etc all give pointers to scsi drives. Can somebody point me to or assist me in writing a cd through the ide interface drive? Kindly reply to me directly as I am not subscribed to the list (but I get the digests). Thanks in advance, sridhar * Sridhar M. A Department of Studies in Physics University of Mysore, Manasagangotri Mysore 570 006, INDIA Tel: +91-821-516133 Fax: +91-821-516133 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using the same database on Linux and NT
Hallo, I use postgresql on linux and my colleage and our office uses NT. Is it possible make a postgresql-database available to the other two computers which does not operate on linux? Which will be the best way to do it? All three computers do have modems. Johann. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hamm FAT 32
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 01:30:47AM -0500, Jesus Duran wrote: just a quick question..does hamm have built-in support to read FAT-32 Partitions The FAT-32 situation for hamm, AFAICT is: - A patched FIPS (fips15c) with support for resizing FAT32 partitions is available in the tools directory of the FTP archive to make installation of Debian on a system that has FAT32 partitions on it easier. - kernel-source-2.0.33-2.0.33-3 (20 Feb) and newer as well as kernel-image.deb's derived from them have FAT32 support, so you should be able to read them. Comparing this to what's available on http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html, the only thing that seems to be missing for FAT32 support in hamm is a patched mkdosfs. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stuck with only 1 xterm in X
Hi,
Firstly, you could try starting the second xterm inside the
first one like so:
% xterm
See the `' symbol? That send the xterm launched into the background,
and returns your command prompt on the first xterm. Voila! tow
command prompts ;-)
i'll do it a try right now.
Secondly, you should look into installing and running a window
manager like twm (the standard, vanilla window manager), fvwm2 (the
middle of the road window manager), fvwm95 looks like windows ;-(;
wmaker (supposedly, the window manager fo the future, still lacks
feature I have grown used to). However, this is highly subh=jective,
and doubtless I shall be flamed ercilessly.
twm is what i'm running,do you know if fvwm2 run on 16 colors ?? i tried
fvwm95 too but it hasn't worked (i discovered the reason about 30 minutes
ago when surfing in a mass of document and config files).
When starting, X looks for a file called .xsession (or
.xinitrc, I forget what the default is now). I am including a copy of
my .xsession to use as an example (do not just copy it over, I have a
myriad of things in there that you do not need).
it will help,but it's currious i dont have any .xinitrc file on my system
and even more currious that i run the apropos command for something on
xinitrc and it didn't found a manpage for it ( i did apropos .xinitrc
apropos xinitrc and find / -name *xinitrc* ,nothing at all)
Hope this helps.
manoj
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cut below
#!/bin/sh
# Merge in defaults and keymaps
umask 022
export default_dir=${default_dir:=$HOME}
userresources=$default_dir/.Xresources
usermodmap=$default_dir/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/usr/lib/X11/xdm/.Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/lib/X11/.Xmodmap
# load common variables
if test -f $default_dir/.bash_vars ; then
. $default_dir/.bash_vars
fi
if [ ! $DISPLAY -o $DISPLAY = :0.0 ]; then
DISPLAY=`hostname`:0
fi
if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi
if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi
if [ -f $userresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $userresources
fi
if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
xmodmap $usermodmap
fi
# This is useful if you use ssh
eval $(ssh-agent)
ssh-add /dev/null
xset -c b 95 s default
#xwrits +frugal +iconified +clock +beep +breakclock +lock
#xearth -pos 42.22.41 -77.75 #-orbit 51.6 234.8
##xearth -label -grid -pos orbit,1,41.67 -fork
#tvtwm -s
#nice xcb -l v -geometry 200x500-0+365
#nice sunclock -icongeometry -0+0 -iconic
#xvtdl
#nice pland
xicon
#nice xmultibiff -mail ~/var/spool/mail/{important,admin,digital,bcast}
#nice xwalld
if [ -z $MANPATH ]; then
MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/man; export MANPATH
fi
# Start some shelltools and the window manager
if test -x /usr/bin/X11/fvwm2; then
#fvwm2 -f FvwmM4 -m4prog /usr/bin/m4 .fvwm2rc
/usr/bin/X11/fvwm2
elif [ -x /usr/bin/X11/fvwm ]; then
/usr/bin/X11/fvwm
elif [ -x /usr/bin/X11/twm ]; then
/usr/bin/X11/twm
fi
# xkeycaps -kbd ms104
exec xterm -ut -T login -n login -fg Black -bg LightSteelBlue -geometry
80x24+10+93 -ls
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Re: IDE CD writer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, XRD Lab wrote: I am running Debian bo (1.3). We have recently purchased a HP cd writer (Model 7100i, IDE interface). I just can say that one friend uses this (or 7200) happily under Linux indeed he never uses it under Win95 or NT because it works very bad under these environments (he has 32Mb and Pentium200MMX). Regards, Ulisses - - Computers are useless. They can only give answers.Pablo Picasso -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: latin1 Comment: PGP public key avaliable at http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver iQB1AwUBNTx3SQ/N+5+NQ63pAQHABwL/UKxYVx1BY3Ux9UK2wrF3uMqzLrDoNJYy PWbFj8EqHqkjvp5CGzLQg6CHnjJNKsVuFUspxqSK5PCWB2Lzkmh3UhSc8VTvfKvg wB9mHOAV4I+td5Ka86+vv6lsADy3yLYX =KReP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windoze 95 is not multi-tasking, it just pretends it is multitasking.
I didn't know it, and I don't care. To me, this is worthless information. This is not valuable information about debian or is it? I happen to have some very valuable information on how to play the classical guitar. Would you like me to post that to debian-user? The internet is full of win9[58] babbling. When it doesn't have any relation to debian, it does _not_ belong on this list. Wait until you have to make convincing arguments to folks that are making OS decisions. You are probably just a guy behind a box at home. whoes only concern is to get debian to work for himself. Some of us spend time looking for convincing arguments why Linux should be the OS of choice. .. As for the bit about your classical guitar ... .. it closes this discussion --Jon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Super.tab syntax
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 08:32:56AM -0400, Brandon Mitchell wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, C.L.Daugaard wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 1998 at 09:29:33PM -0400, Brandon Mitchell wrote: I still get bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied I don't use super, but it's interesting that bash is the one complaining and not super. You could make this a script and have users call the script from super. Just be careful because bash is over cautious about suid operation and will drop is privleges if the euid != ruid. I've also tried setting it up as a script. Still no luck. Thanks. Curt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts in X [Off Topic]
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Petra Kevin J Poorman wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: I was told that XFSTT had a new maintainer when I asked to adopt it... so I guess we are both to late. Where is xfstt*.deb? /---/ Daniel J. Mashao Electrical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Cape Town http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel Rondebosch, 7700, S. Africa(w) 27+21+650 2816 (h) 27+21+705 1233 /---/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stuck with only 1 xterm in X
a last question,does it possible in X to be logged on as several user at once (you see,have 2 xterm logged as root,one as alaint,etc...) after this is answered,i'll keep my mouth shut except when answering question (i found that i asked more than enough questions) ?? Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why?
What? Do they forbid sending e-mail with bogus To: headers? I am once again baffled by the stupidity of USA laws regarding electronic (1) Why would anyone intentionally want to send email to a bogus header? to wreak havoc?? ... to bounce spam messages??? (2) I wish you knew how much hassle bogus headers cause on servers --Jon In any war, the first casualty is the truth. --anon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stuck with only 1 xterm in X
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], you wrote: a last question,does it possible in X to be logged on as several user at once (you see,have 2 xterm logged as root,one as alaint,etc...) See man-pages for: su, rsh, rlogin, ssh after this is answered,i'll keep my mouth shut except when answering question (i found that i asked more than enough questions)?? You may ask as many questions as you like, but it would be better if you found another more appropriate forum for asking unix-newbie questions like the ones you have produced so far. To gain a little bit more experience you should also try browsing around in Unix related FAQs and the man-pages in section 1. It will give you some hints about what you can do and play around with. Good luck Fredrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PINE Debian Package
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, George Bonser wrote: Although the above trademark and copyright restrictions do not convey the right to redistribute derivative works, the University of Washington encourages unrestricted distribution of patch files which can be applied to the University of Washington Pine distribution. ... Someone in Debian saw that second paragraph and thought gee, we make a patch file to create our package so we must have a derivative work. We have to distribute the debianization as a separate file in source form only. I think that is incorrect and I further suspect that nobody contacted washington.edu to make sure. I contacted washington.edu and they really do not want binaries to be distributed if they do not approve the patches *first*. If we do not have the freedom to apply whatever patches we like, including security or bug fixes, without an approval from the University of Washington, then we will have to distribute the patches without the binaries. I will not accept a special permission which allow us to distribute only a certain release of pine. This is the only way to keep intact our freedom to patch. Nowhere does it say in that copyright that you can not distribute a binary. It does. A binary produced from patched sources is a derivative work. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNTyEDSqK7IlOjMLFAQHl8AP9GQELYT1VM5P67h9x4agZymDMtatdcxl6 PMO4hJ+qH3OeCSdKZFeQxSOCpFvqcQphcFm6Fv7GcBF7MV91QWZLY4+SJt4nG4+G UPfWAIveiEGzODUaawJl2VxvypVyo7iWm994KU+C53acpdsP11EYhWIkz/sHl3t8 jS1wnGsiHh8= =WcXo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [QUESTIONS] Using the same database on Linux and NT
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Johann Spies wrote: Hallo, I use postgresql on linux and my colleage and our office uses NT. Is it possible make a postgresql-database available to the other two computers which does not operate on linux? I'd say the best way is to inter-connect them using ODBC drivers on the NT side to talk to the Linux server... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Problem
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Oz Dror wrote: I have installed the latest version of kde from hamm when I type kde I get the following error: kde: error in loading shared libraries /usr/X11R6/lib/libkdecore.so.0: undefined symbol: __ti8QListBox It is clear that one of the libraries that I am using is not up to date I had the same problem. Installing all the latest referring packages (kde+libraries) from slink worked for me. (But its surely not a specific solution) cu florian attenberger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [QUESTIONS] Using the same database on Linux and NT
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Johann Spies wrote: You can use Postgres ODBC. Hallo, I use postgresql on linux and my colleage and our office uses NT. Is it possible make a postgresql-database available to the other two computers which does not operate on linux? Which will be the best way to do it? All three computers do have modems. Johann. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 -- Official WWW Site: http://www.postgresql.org Online Docs FAQ: http://www.postgresql.org/docs Searchable Lists: http://www.postgresql.org/mhonarc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UUCP :error with login
Hello When i try to connect to my server, the server doesn't send me anything. So, my login chat script doesn't work. Have u an idea ? thanks -- Nicolas Weinachter -- EXTERN e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stuck with only 1 xterm in X
a last question,does it possible in X to be logged on as several user at once (you see,have 2 xterm logged as root,one as alaint,etc...) after this is answered,i'll keep my mouth shut except when answering question (i found that i asked more than enough questions) ?? I do this quite alot, I run an xterm and then do su - username, if your not logged in as root then you will be asked for that users password. Graham Alain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
upgrade to libc6 script?
Hello everyone, I tried to look up the url for the autoupgrade script to libc6, but aparently the list archives on www.debian.org are hosed (i.e., not there). Could anyone tell me where to find the most recent version of this script? Wouldn't it be nice to put this on the web page under `support'? Any comments appreciated, Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xlock with shadow passwords
Hey guys, I recently lot a LOT of suid bit that slaughtered a lot of system functionality. I reinstalled xlock via package.. or at least i thought i did. It has perms 2755 xlock chowned to root.shadow. Problem is... for some odd reason the group shadow although it has suid (s)... cannot execute for non-root users. (chmod 2755 xlock may be better if shadow has group read for root group) How can I make the shadow group have read for root group? Thanks in advance. Carroll Kong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fonts in X [Off Topic]
ahh thanx for the info It has been on that list saying it needed a new maintainer for a while now...oh well... hopefully now the documentation will be fixed :) -Steve Petra wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote: I was told that XFSTT had a new maintainer when I asked to adopt it... so I guess we are both to late. MUCH SNIPED -K -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade to libc6 script?
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 02:42:01PM +0200, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: I tried to look up the url for the autoupgrade script to libc6, but aparently the list archives on www.debian.org are hosed (i.e., not there). Could anyone tell me where to find the most recent version of this script? Wouldn't it be nice to put this on the web page under `support'? It's available from the Developer's Corner as http://www.debian.org/devel/autoup.sh ; I'm not sure if it's the latest version though (one was posted this morning I think). HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade to libc6 script?
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 03:00:32PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's available from the Developer's Corner as http://www.debian.org/devel/autoup.sh ; I'm not sure if it's the latest version though (one was posted this morning I think). OK. According to the autoup.sh distributed by the bot on #debian, the latest version can always be found at http://www.taz.net.au/autoup/autoup/ and at http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ . HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE mouse-click strangeness
I've just upgraded my home system to the latest KDE available in hamm. Most of it seems fine, except that certain elements no longer respond to mouse clicks, or do not respond initially and can be 'coaxed' by lots of clicking. Unfortunately, ony of the elements which doesn't respond is the task bar :( (luckily alt-f1 goes some of the way). I'm mystified. Further detail is available, if anyone is willing to lend a hand... thanks (many) in advance, -thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)
I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic : :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian It fails on mail from a few users, for which the `From' line is not the Debian mailing list: Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Norbert Veber [EMAIL PROTECTED] I notice that these failed messages are also all in MIME (coincidence?). I wonder if the following quote is related to that: Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This machine is icarus2.dyn.ml.org. Therefore, my MTA generated From line is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This has started to fail recently, but a few other things have changed also. Instead of receiving my mail directly to my Debian box, I get it from an NT server using fetchmail release 4.2.2 using POP3. Is fetchmail or the NT server changing the `From' line? Has anyone seen this happen too? -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 ** New E-Mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is cut off ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Problem
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Oz Dror wrote: I have installed the latest version of kde from hamm when I type kde Why are you typeing this, KDE should be started from startx or xinit (maybe xdm/kdm even). Graham I get the following error: kde: error in loading shared libraries /usr/X11R6/lib/libkdecore.so.0: undefined symbol: __ti8QListBox It is clear that one of the libraries that I am using is not up to date I had the same problem. Installing all the latest referring packages (kde+libraries) from slink worked for me. (But its surely not a specific solution) cu florian attenberger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic : :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian I would not trust the From line. Why don't you just use the Resent-Sender field? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBNTyj1CqK7IlOjMLFAQF5WAQAp8uO+NWcdvfbEPSYHDrPk38eMPx9P03a C+JuIzathpihiMMXH56SZmhh0sfFpbQfBlQ++LeMsdNaUAz+6FWppcQRIiYAD+2H 260q79BYEHTU1WY1Y5S8kJWRODVBjpxulF53a2WMIoi33cP3etOAA2E/excm05bb X1kJa1gELa8= =etIg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pcmcia install help
Now I am thoroughly confused. I installed pcmcia-cs_2.9.6-2.deb, which I found on my Debian 1.3.1 CD, and it complained that the actual modules were missing. The only pcmcia module package I could find on the CD were pcmcia-modules-2.0.29_2.9.5-2.deb and pcmcia-modules-2.0.30_2.9.5-3.deb; I tried installing both of them and it didn't work; both requires a difference pcmcia-cs pagackage (2.9.5-2, while the one I have is 3.0.0-5). There is also the question of whether or not it will work on this kernel, which is 2.0.32. So I went to www.debian.org and downloaded pcmcia-modules-2.0.32_3.0.0-5k5.deb. Well, that package is dependent on pcmcia-cs_3.0.0-5.deb, so I downloaded that, and then I got the error that it needed libc6. Now, I have no idea what I should do to get Debian working. I'm ready to conclude that you cannot install Debian on a laptop that uses a pcmcia modem as its primary interface to the world. I would really love it if somebody proved me wrong. On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Obi wrote: I copied minicom off another machine and tried it, and haven't gotten it to recognize the modem, so I figure there must be something else to it - do I also have to install some PCMCIA software, maybe a module? You need to install some pcmcia package. If I remember correctly one is pcmcia-cs (it contains the daemon and related stuff) and the second one is pcmcia-modules (are the modules compiled against the version of the kernel you have: check it out when you downlod it). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)
I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic : :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian I suggest you use the X-Mailing-List header instead. It's added by the mailing list manager, so it gets added to every mailing list message. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 09:22:16AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic : :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian It fails on mail from a few users, for which the `From' line is not the Debian mailing list: Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] My procmail recipe is :0: * ^TOdebian-user.* debian-user this works for all messages sent to the list. Nils -- *-* | Quotes from the net: L Linus Torvalds, W Winfried Truemper | | Lthis is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 | | WUmh, oh. What do you mean by special easter release?. Will it quit | * Wworking today and rise on easter? * pgphPnSLZfgAm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrade to libc6 script?
The one you link is the old version It is v.23 and I elieve from what I read this morning .25 was releaces According to the old versiont he latest version shoul dbe at: http://www.taz.net.au/autoup/autoup/ -Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 02:42:01PM +0200, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: I tried to look up the url for the autoupgrade script to libc6, but aparently the list archives on www.debian.org are hosed (i.e., not there). Could anyone tell me where to find the most recent version of this script? Wouldn't it be nice to put this on the web page under `support'? It's available from the Developer's Corner as http://www.debian.org/devel/autoup.sh ; I'm not sure if it's the latest version though (one was posted this morning I think). HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux as a eMail/Internet server.
Alistair Phillips writes: Hi there fellow Linux fans (Debian and the like!) About 6 months ago I stumbled upon the greatest find of my life. Someone had told me about a wonderful OS that multitasked great, handled 100's of users, had very little requiremets and was a all round OS for anyone. So, I downloaded Debain GNU Linux and gave it a try. I was most impressed by it AND by the help I got from this list. Via this list I managed to get a copy of tri-linux for free (postage included to South Africa). I now have a great little 386 running Debian Linux that I use to fiddle with. I now consider myself quite an expert with it :) I am only 16 years old and do WWW site design, computer repairs and installations, etc... I am currently working at a Computer Resourse Centre. We have decided to get an account with the Western Cape Schools Network (as we are part of a school) which offers UUCP email with a domain (i.e [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for a negligible amount. The software that they recomend for Windows will cost us a fortune. They have not suggested anything else in the way of software. I then sugested to the owner about Linux. I spent the day explaining to him all about it. He was very impressed and said that it would be a great option to think about... We have about 20 + computers ranging from P100's to P200's. They all have win95 osr 1 or 2 and NE2000 compliant network cards. The network is running on Windows IPX stuff. (Totally a microsoft network). We would like to have the Linux server dial up as needed to offer email (via uucp) and internet access (via ppp) for the pupils/customers. I want UUCP to dial up on a schedule and have the ppp connection connect when needed (ie when Netscape for IE starts on the win95 computer) I was hoping that someone out there may be able to help me through this and give me (step my step!) instructions or better ideas on what to do. I was going to create an account for all of the students on the Linux box and get UUCP to filter email accordingly. Then I was going to run a pop server (slakware has one built in) on the Linux side and let the computers connect via the network to Linux with Outlook express and get the users email. The Linux box will NOT have a direct connection to the Internet. I have managed to get a PPP connection with my ISP at home with Netscape on X. That is as far as i have gotten! I would appreciate ANY help that I can get. I am not on this list, so could you please maybe email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's see if I understand this correctly: ISP -- UUCP -- LINUX -- network -- win95 boxes If the above is correct, 1) to satisfy the UUCP requirement, you will need to install the UUCP CRON packages (plus whatever else they may need in support) 2) to satisfy the network requirement, you will need a POP3 server (plus whatever else it needs in support) PLUS you have to have networking installed and configured. (ie. you can telnet to the LINUX box from a MSDOS window on a win95 machine, ping both ways, etc.) 3) to glue it together, you will need an MTA (mail transfer agent) like sendmail Assuming that all configuration is correct, cron will periodically start the uucico agent. uucico will exchange mail with the ISP. When finished, uucico will invoke uuxqt which will in turn invoke rmail. rmail is a link to the MTA. Thus uuxqt invokes sendmail. The typical win95 setup assumes that you are the only user of the system. So the easiest way to glue the POP3 side is to assign accounts for each machine on the LINUX side and let the POP3 server do it's thing. fetchmail is a client, not a server. Try qpopper. Something else that you may want to consider is installing samba and using the LINUX box as a printer server as well. 8-) [snip] Linux rulez No question about that! -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
man fails -- segmentation fault
Yesterday man failed: e.g., $ man man Segmentation fault (I also noted a possibly unrelated increase of about 9megs on the partition, for which I could not account. Today, the disk space is back -- presumably cron.daily took care of this.) I decided to try gdb for the first time, so I did a whatis gdb: $ whatis gdb Segmentation fault (core dumped) I tried gdb --core=./core: $ gdb --core=./core ... GDB 4.16 (i586-debian-linux), Copyright 1996 Free Software Fou... Core was generated by `whatis mandb'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0x4000f6f4 in ?? () Perhaps gdb could provide more information if I had any idea about how to use it. Of course man gbd is of no use :) ; info gdb was better but I really did not understand it: $ gdb /usr/bin/man ... (no debugging symbols found)... So, how do I get my man back? (Please, no jokes about Country and Western song titles -- my wife has already covered that ground)? I am using Debian GNU Linux 1.3: $ uname -a Linux ludd 2.0.30 #1 Mon Mar 9 00:41:12 AST 1998 i386 unknown -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Kern Yarmouth, Nova Scotia Debian GNU/Linux i386 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video Modes in X
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I am trying to get my X running 1152x862 at 16 bpp - Vertical scan = 60Hz, Horizontal Scan = 56Hz. The only hastle is that there is no modeline for this in my XF86Config, and I don't know how to write one. If you are your monitor are feeling lucky, you could try this one, which I cobbled together some time ago; it works for me. You'll probably have to adjust it with xvidtune. Modeline 1152x864 80.00 1152 1225 1275 1488 864 864 872 895 I'd suggest you read /usr/doc/X11/VideoModes.doc, in which Eric Raymond describes exactly how modelines work. Cheers, -- Charles Briscoe-Smith White pages entry, with PGP key: URL:http://alethea.ukc.ac.uk/wp?95cpb4 PGP public keyprint: 74 68 AB 2E 1C 60 22 94 B8 21 2D 01 DE 66 13 E2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UUCP :error with login
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 02:21:27PM +0200, Nicolas Weinachter wrote: When i try to connect to my server, the server doesn't send me anything. So, my login chat script doesn't work. I think more details are required. Firstly, is the server under your control? Are you trying to UUCP over direct modem dialup, or over TCP/IP, and if TCP, using the UUCP port or via telnet? What happens if you make the connect by hand with minicom or telnet as appropriate? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem with NE2000 Card not working after kernel compile.
Hello;
I have had this problem for quite a while and am completely lost as to
what to do to fix it. I have had this problem with both Debian 1.3.1 and
Debian 2.0 unstable/frozen. Basically, I install Debian from scratch on
my system. During the install process autoprobe for ne2000 card, it
cannot come back with the io address (0x300) so I manually specify
io=0x300. The system installs fine and the network card works just fine.
Now I download the latest kernel source code (2.0.33 or 2.1.x) and try and
compile the kernel. I have tried both without modules and with module
support. The card is on IRQ10. The card seems to be autodetected
properly during the bootup sequence with the new kernel but it does not
seem to work once the bootup is done. I get 2 SIOADDCRT: invalid device
messages. Upon exploring around, I see that these messages are being
caused when the file /etc/init.d/network is run
the 2 lines are:
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ ${GATEWAY} ] route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
Please note that this SAME /etc/init.d/network file works just fine with
the kernel installed by the Debian install process (which in my case at
the present moment is 2.0.32 that comes with 2.0 frozen).
I do not have any free IRQs left to try my ne2000 card unfortunately.
I was wondering if someone could provide me with some help on this
problem.
Thanks in advance,
Vaibhav Goel
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Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)
I used to use that also but a number of them got through I don't think that handles cc: to the list -Steve Nils Rennebarth wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 09:22:16AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic : :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian It fails on mail from a few users, for which the `From' line is not the Debian mailing list: Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nils Rennebarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] My procmail recipe is :0: * ^TOdebian-user.* debian-user this works for all messages sent to the list. Nils -- *-* | Quotes from the net: L Linus Torvalds, W Winfried Truemper | | Lthis is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 | | WUmh, oh. What do you mean by special easter release?. Will it quit | * Wworking today and rise on easter? * Part 1.2 Type: application/pgp-signature -- -=Signature has been removed because it made an unfair comparison between NT 4 and Linux =- replacement: (ok I admit...I am bored..its a slow day at work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$fortune -o Anything more than 3 shakes is for fun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: man fails -- segmentation fault
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 11:09:00AM -0300, Jack Kern wrote: Yesterday man failed: e.g., $ man man Segmentation fault Looks like man's database is corrupt. mandb --create ought to fix this. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with NE2000 Card not working after kernel compile.
messages. Upon exploring around, I see that these messages are being
caused when the file /etc/init.d/network is run
the 2 lines are:
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ ${GATEWAY} ] route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
You also need an ifconfig command. See the ifconfig man page for
details.
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Re: Problem with NE2000 Card not working after kernel compile.
I do have that in the file...here is what it looks like:
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
its basically the default nework file that comes with debian...i do have
all the variables defined.
Thanks
On 21 Apr 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
messages. Upon exploring around, I see that these messages are being
caused when the file /etc/init.d/network is run
the 2 lines are:
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ ${GATEWAY} ] route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
You also need an ifconfig command. See the ifconfig man page for
details.
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Re: KDE Problem
In article 0847151421041998/A06349/GCSSTF/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Oz Dror wrote: I have installed the latest version of kde from hamm when I type kde Why are you typeing this, KDE should be started from startx or xinit (maybe xdm/kdm even). Maybe he, like me, decided that a good way to test new window managers/desktop environments is to have .xinitrc start an xterm. Then you type kde or startkde or even better the individual commands found in startkde. This way, I see exactly where problems occur (KDE is still beta of course). Erv -- Graduate Student[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Chemistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ of Wisconsin-Madison [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Borg Assimilation is the Best Cure for the Common Man. -- tagline 1.00 by xopy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pcmcia install help
Michael Stutz wrote: Now, I have no idea what I should do to get Debian working. I'm ready to conclude that you cannot install Debian on a laptop that uses a pcmcia modem as its primary interface to the world. I would really love it if somebody proved me wrong. Not sure about the modem part, however the PCMCIA part works - I use a laptop with a PCMCIA ethernet adapter. To install the PCMCIA stuff, we (several people were involved in this one ;) compiles the source code and made sure the resultant modules ended up in the right place -- Ian Stuart Medicine Veterinary Medicine Computing Support The University of Edinburgh http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/ LandRovers - a 50-year-old stop-gap that has become the most successful 4x4 production vehicle in the world. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I have a pppd connection problem.
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Szomor Attila wrote: --ppp not replacing existing default route to eth0[0.0.0.0] --Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP I do not have idea what is a solution if you know it please send me an e-mail. /etc/ppp/options asyncmap 0 crtscts lock modem noipdefault proxyarp Try adding defaultroute to this file. Bye Carlos Barros. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian list `From' line (Re: exim mutt, weird)
Santiago Vila Doncel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I have a procmail recipe to catch the Debian mailing list traffic : :0 * ^From [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian I would not trust the From line. Why don't you just use the Resent-Sender field? This works mostly, but again a few people have a Resent-Sender added to their mail before it goes to the listserver, and they then slip through. I've found the X-Mailing-List header to be the most reliable way of sorting. (Of course, if debian's listserv added a received: header that told for whom the message was received, I might key off that as I do for some non-debian lists). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PDF and Linux
How can I print PDF collor files to a linotronic 530 Image Setter with command line. Yeah... there are a few questions inside this... where can i find the linotronic 350 drivers for linux; how can i print CMYK separations from adobe acrobat reader or other; how can i do all this with no user interacting; In fact I want any agency send me an AD by FTP, when the file finish arriving an script runs, convert the PDF file to the correspondent PS File (my Image Setter - RIP) and copy it to the NW directory where the iamge setter looks for new jobs. Its appear easy to do... ah... i need to setup a ANSI BBS to allow people using only hyperterm to send their files also, to do the same... TIA Leonardo Ruoso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: possible intrusion in my box ??????
On 14-Apr-98 Ossama Othman wrote: On the systems that I run, I have disabled all incoming telnets, ftps, rsh/rlogin/rexec/etc, finger, rusers, ident, etc. The only way in is via Secure Shell. Note that outgoing telnets and ftps would still work. If -Ossama I already use ssh, but would like to exclude access by other means just as you describe. How do I go about doing this? Is there a good place to read about such methods? Thanks for any assistance, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux DRAW or Linux ILLUSTRATOR
Can someone tells me about some apps thats do the work of Corel Draw in Linux, Like Corel Draw? O heard about GIMP that can substitute Corel PhotoPaint and Photoshop! And about substitute Corel Ventura, Adobe Pagemaker or QuarkXpress? I don't know if I am just wondering... but its possible I know... My problems all are simple to undertend.. as I work to a medium Newspaper (http://www.opovo.com.br) I have to solve some problems like machines to slow with Corel Draw 7, QXpress 3.32, Photoshop 4 and reinstalling it every day... There are 300 machines here... what i want is reduci the reinstall... increase performance... I use PCS with Windows 95 and 3.11. I am interested in migrating to Linux... but I need this... and I don't have how to ask boss to develop this... TIA Leonardo Ruoso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux DRAW or Linux ILLUSTRATOR
Can someone tells me about some apps thats do the work of Corel Draw in Linux, Like Corel Draw? O heard about GIMP that can substitute Corel PhotoPaint and Photoshop! And about substitute Corel Ventura, Adobe Pagemaker or QuarkXpress? xfig might fit your needs for a Corel Draw-like program. There is currently no suitable substitute for PageMaker. However, there is a project called GLUe that is working on one. Their home page is at http://aix2.uottawa.ca/~s1204672/glue/. Currently the program is rather primitive; I don't know if it's at all usable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
