Re: NT and Linux

[Remco Blaakmeer]

On Fri, 29 May 1998, Michele Comitini wrote:

> One great advantage is that you can combine any kind of partitions form
> different devices (even a combination of partitions from a mix of IDE 
> or SCISI hard-disks!) and have different personalities (i.e. RAID-5 for
> filesystem partitions, RAID-0 for swap partitions) on partitions of the
> same hard-disk.

Note that you don't need RAID0 to do striping on swap partitions. You can
assign each swap partition a priority. If all have the same priority, the
kernel (versions 1.3.6 and higher) will automatically use something like
striping on them. For more info, see 'man 8 swapon' and 'man 2 swapon' for
more info.

Remco


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to create device for tape backup

[Bernt T. Hansen]

>Thanks for the tip Bernt.  I assume that MAKEDEV pulls the device info from
> /proc/devices?  Another tape-related device I've seen reference to (and thus
> assume I need) is /dev/nht0.  Any idea what that device might be for and why 
> two
> are needed (in addition to whether it is made the same way:-)

MAKEDEV gets device info out of /etc/devinfo (according to the manual page ;)

/dev/nht0 is made the same way (or any device for that matter).  /dev/ht0 is 
the auto-rewinding version of the device and /dev/nht0 leaves the tape device 
positioned at the end of whatever operation was just completed.

My SCSI tape device is non-rewinding so I always use /dev/nst0.  You will 
probably want to use /dev/nht0.

Regards,
Bernt.




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to create device for tape backup

[Randy Edwards]

   Thanks for the tip Bernt.  I assume that MAKEDEV pulls the device info from
/proc/devices?  Another tape-related device I've seen reference to (and thus
assume I need) is /dev/nht0.  Any idea what that device might be for and why two
are needed (in addition to whether it is made the same way:-)?

--
 Regards,|Debian GNU/__ o http://www.debian.org
 .   |  / /__  _  _  _  _ __  __
 Randy   | / /__  / / / \// //_// \ \/ /
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) |// /_/ /_/\/ /___/  /_/\_\
 |...because lockups are for convicts...
 |What is or why Linux?  Click on the below:
 http://www8.zdnet.com/pcmag/pctech/content/16/13/os1613.001.html



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Not able to use leafnode and trn?

[Trevor Barrie]

On Sun, 31 May 1998, Ian Lynagh wrote:

> I'm a little bit puzzled.
> I am trying to set up my system so I can read USENET news offline.
> Having failed to get slrn and slrnpull to work I've decided to
> try leafnode with trn instead. However it seems that using trn means
> I can't use leafnode, despite leafnode suggesting it!

> trn depends on inews, so

Ah, but you don't need the actual inews package... the inewsinn package
"Provides" inews for dependency purposes. My system has trn, inewsinn,
and leafnode as the only packages installed from section news, and it
seems to work fine.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kernel problems -- unresolved symbols.

[Matthew D. Myers]

When I recompile my kernel with all the stuff I don't need turned off, for
example scsi support.  At bootup I get messages about unresolved symbols and
stuff.  What did I do wrong and how can I fix it?




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not able to use leafnode and trn?

[Ian Lynagh]

Hi all!

I'm a little bit puzzled.
I am trying to set up my system so I can read USENET news offline.
Having failed to get slrn and slrnpull to work I've decided to
try leafnode with trn instead. However it seems that using trn means
I can't use leafnode, despite leafnode suggesting it!

As shown below:

Package: trn
Version: 3.6-9.3
Priority: optional
Section: news
Maintainer: Jonathan K. Rabone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Depends: libc6, ncurses3.4, inews
Recommends: mail-transport-agent
Suggests: ispell
Provides: news-reader
Architecture: i386
Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/news/trn_3.6-9.3.deb
Size: 187250
MD5sum: 8d29b31affb18bc0c73e6a63968a9b61


trn depends on inews, so

Package: inews
Version: 2.1-6
Priority: extra
Section: news
Maintainer: Roman Hodek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Depends: cnews, perl
Conflicts: inewsinn
Architecture: all
Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/news/inews_2.1-6.deb
Size: 11414
MD5sum: d501cab6492fb25e53fd2bb64ab5fa2d

inews depends on cnews, so

Package: cnews
Version: cr.g7-12
Priority: extra
Section: news
Maintainer: Roman Hodek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Depends: libc6, cron
Recommends: inews, mail-transport-agent
Suggests: ncompress, news-reader, nntp
Conflicts: inn, inewsinn, news-transport-system
Provides: news-transport-system
Architecture: i386
Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/news/cnews_cr.g7-12.deb
Size: 413242
MD5sum: aeeb70c05311c6aa83934ac4e4853ece


but cnews conflicts with news-transport-system...

Package: leafnode
Version: 1.4-10
Priority: extra
Section: news
Maintainer: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Depends: netbase, libc6
Suggests: trn | news-reader
Conflicts: news-transport-system, newsx
Provides: news-transport-system
Architecture: i386
Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/news/leafnode_1.4-10.deb
Size: 74230
MD5sum: bcf3b2c63a8b433f4b986bfd4505e0a1

...and therefore leafnode! So how do I do this? 


Thanks
Ian
-- 
Ian Lynagh - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.sol.no/~balchen/igloo/

What some people lack in intelligence, they more than make up for in stupidity.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to create device for tape backup

[Bernt T. Hansen]

> cd /dev
> ../MAKEDEV ht0

Sorry that should read 
cd /deb
./MAKEDEV ht0
not ../MAKEDEV ...

Bernt.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

adding users via scripts

[Nathan E Norman]

We are in the process of moving users from a BSDi box to a Linux box.
BSDi has an adduser script which accepts encrypted passwords.  The
Debian adduser script does not.  From reading through the code for each,
it seems that BSDi's adduser script manipulates the password file
directly.  ( I'm not a Perl guru, btw :)

So, I'm wondering if anyone knows of or has developed an adduser type
script for Linux that will accept encrypted passwords on the comamnd
line.  I don't feel up todeveloping this myself, though I'll give it a
try if I have to.  In the short term, I'd probably add the users with
one script and change the entries in /etc/shadow with another.

Searching for ideas, advice, etc.  Thanks.

--
Nathan Norman
MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD  57104
mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.midco.net
finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to create device for tape backup

[Bernt T. Hansen]

>I just acquired an IDE tape backup and I believe that this uses ht0
> for a device.  I've recompiled my kernel, and the kernel recognizes
> the device at boot and I have a ht0 listed in /proc/devices, but I
> don't have any sort of /dev/ht0 entry to use the device with.

cd /dev
./MAKEDEV ht0

and it will create the /dev/ht0 device for you so you can use the drive.

> 
>Can someone tell me what the standard way of addressing such a
> device is; and perhaps give me a tutorial on using MAKEDEV to create
> this device (I thought a MAKEDEV -v update would do the trick).
> Thanks much in advance.

/dev/MAKEDEV is a tool which creates devices in the /dev directory.  You 
normally make the ones you need and ignore the ones you don't.

Regards,
Bernt.

-- 
Bernt T. Hansen- Norang Consulting Incorporated ---  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computer Systems/  - 235 Bellamy Road N., Scarborough -  phone: (416)431-6216
Analyst- Ontario, Canada M1J-2L7 --  fax:   (416)431-2617
PGP Public Key fingerprint = CB 99 EC 07 DE F8 D5 8D  59 99 A5 E7 7E 7A 8C 9C



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

low throughput on PPP link

[Gregory Guthrie]

Currently we are building two Debian boxes(2.0.30) running as routers with a
PPP link in between. Things are mostly going fine except the link throughput.
56kbps is the best it gets while we are expecting over 100kbps since we are
using the 16550A UART serial cards, trying for 115K..

Here's the details:
== serial port settings =
/dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
Flags: spd_vhi skip_test session_lockout


== ppp link settings 
pppd persist passive proxyarp /dev/ttyS0 57600 &(local)
pppd persist passive defaultroute /dev/ttyS0 57600 &(remote)


The reason why we didn't set the speed up to 115200 in pppd is that it
will bring the link down! (while using Slackware doesn't have this situation)

We were acknowledged that a combination of 
"setserial -b /dev/ttyS0 spd_vhi"and 
"pppd persist passive proxyarp /dev/ttyS0 38400 &" 
   should achieve the full speed
of 115200, yet the testing result we have is just slower that using 57600.

Not any clue in Robert Hart's Linux PPP HOWTO, nor in "The Linux Serial HOWTO
by Greg Hankins". Any pointer?
Thanks in advance.

Xiangyang Ha



Xiangyang Ha
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Computer Science Department
College of Science and Technology
Maharishi University of Management
(Maharishi International University 1971-1995)




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: angband save problems

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

>>"Ed" == Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Ed>On another curious note, Manoj, why is Angband considered 'non-free'?

From the copyright file:
__
  Copyright (c) 1989 James E. Wilson
 
  This software may be copied and distributed for educational, research, and
  not for profit purposes provided that this copyright and statement are
  included in all such copies.

  ANGBAND Version 4.8   COPYRIGHT (c) Robert Alan Koeneke

 ANGBAND may be copied and modified freely as long as the above
 credits are retained.  No one who-so-ever may sell or market
 this software in any form without the expressed written consent
 of the author Robert Alan Koeneke.
__
Fails article 1 of the DFSG.

manoj
-- 
 "The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground
 and miss." Hitchhiker's
Manoj Srivastava  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05  CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Help with multi-boot please.

[Christian Zander]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Sun, 31 May 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi, 
>
>Can anyone help me?
>
>I have installed (mostly) Linux on to my secondary hard drive (d:). I have NT4 
>sitting on the first partition of my primary (c:) and win95 sitting on the 
>second partition of my primary (e:). There is also a third partition of my 
>primary (f:) which I use for deep store. All file systems are FAT.
>
>I have a multiboot set up which allows me to choose between NT and 95. 
>
>When I finished (alomost) setting up Linux, I got the following error message:
>
>"Currently it is impossible to boot from the second harddisk. Please boot 
>using rescue disk method and configure LILO manually."
>
>Note: When I set up Linux I partitioned d: into two (normal and swap.).
>
>I can boot to the Boot disk happily.
>
>How do I get it to boot to my second hard drive? How do I set up the multiboot?
>
>Many thanks.
>
>Ed Egan.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Are you still using the NT bootmanager? If you do, you need to install the Linux
Loader (LILO) in the MBR of your first harddrive. LILO then takes care of
managing the multi-boot as long as you supply it with enough information about
your system. The installation of LILO is one of the steps in the debian
installation program. What happened in your case is that the installation
procedure was not able to cope with the fact that you installed Linux on the
second harddrive. This is NOT a problem, though.
When you boot using the rescue disks, you can supply additional information,
such as the root device to use. In your case this would probably be done with a
command like root=/dev/hdb1 (or whatever partition you installed it to). It then
boots using your installation. 
The next step is to configure LILO manually, which can be done by editing
/etc/lilo.conf, which looks something like that:

boot=/dev/hda   <---this is the harddrive that LILO is installed on
root=/dev/hda5  <---this is the root partition of your installation
in your case /dev/hdb1 (or what you installed
Linux on 
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=40

image=/vmlinuz  <---this specifies the kernel image to boot. This is
also the first entry in the config file and thus
the default OS to boot.

 label=SkyNet
read-only

other=/dev/hda1 <---you need additional entries for each other OS 
you want to boot, in your case one for NT
(/dev/hda1) and Win95 (/dev/hda2) 
label=winblows 

Thus you would have to use a file like the one I enclosed. After you edited
/etc/lilo.conf, you'll have to start LILO manually once to install it with the
updated data. After that you should have everyting running.

 --
Stone's Law:
One man's "simple" is another man's "huh?"
- --
==
 Christian Zander
  *  web:  ishmael.ml.org/~zander 
  *  email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3ia
Charset: noconv

iQCVAwUBNXGb6LtAzGtVrTsdAQEeBgP/VXjt3BOZQ1OU7zo874c7/oZjCX30Jkvt
8O8aQvOWcICtKXhTO9lndXl8fTMcyb02tF04TsQ+8KOSsVq8u7++HxSHCsgl0Gs5
xO3gzJ5u1UXeU4h/xb4ok8hf7LnTV9pJwFflBrue+6hMtN/DeqmsMKK+V6mN6Iau
/8Uqs5PkLlU=
=IBcd
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hdb1
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=40
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only

other=/dev/hda1
label=windowsNT

other=/dev/hda2
label=windows95

How to create device for tape backup

[Randy Edwards]

   I just acquired an IDE tape backup and I believe that this uses ht0
for a device.  I've recompiled my kernel, and the kernel recognizes
the device at boot and I have a ht0 listed in /proc/devices, but I
don't have any sort of /dev/ht0 entry to use the device with.

   Can someone tell me what the standard way of addressing such a
device is; and perhaps give me a tutorial on using MAKEDEV to create
this device (I thought a MAKEDEV -v update would do the trick).
Thanks much in advance.

--
 Regards,|Debian GNU/__ o http://www.debian.org
 .   |  / /__  _  _  _  _ __  __
 Randy   | / /__  / / / \// //_// \ \/ /
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) |// /_/ /_/\/ /___/  /_/\_\
 |...because lockups are for convicts...
 |What is or why Linux?  Click on the below:
 http://www8.zdnet.com/pcmag/pctech/content/16/13/os1613.001.html



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How to configure sendmail for dial on demand operation ?

[Gerd Bavendiek]

Hi,

My box is connected to my ISP via an ISDN router (Ascend pipeline),
which does dial on demand. I don't want sendmail to establish
connections in the background. The mail processing shall be delayed
until I explicitly make a connection.

Though I found various hints on I was not able to make it work for me.
I'm using the Debian sendmail-package 8.8.8-16. This is my current
customization section in sendmail.mc:

## Custom configurations below (will be preserved)
define(`confDELIVERY_MODE', `delay')
FEATURE(nodns)dnl
FEATURE(nocanonify)dnl
FEATURE(nouucp)dnl
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
define(`SMART_HOST', `relay:[rw.sni.de]')dnl
define(`confCON_EXPENSIVE', `True')dnl
MASQUERADE_AS(rw.sni.de)dnl
define(`confUSERDB_SPEC', `/etc/mail/userdb.db')dnl
FEATURE(notsticky)dnl
MAILER(local)dnl
MAILER(smtp)dnl

There is no nameserver on my box.

Any hints really appreciated !

Kind regards

Gerd


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dual screens

[Edward Betts]

On Sun, 31 May, 1998, Johan Levin wrote:
> I've recently come across an old monocrome
> display/display card. It works fine in dos,
> but I can't figure out how to use it in Linux.
> Can I e.g. create some device like /dev/console?

Cool

I have an old mono IBM monitor hooked up to this box, I am afraid you need
to patch the kernel. I found my patch on sunsite, if you are interested I
will find the address for you.

Basically I have three virtual terminals on the mono monitor, pressing
alt-f9 though f11 flips to them leaving the display on the vga monitor
untouched, it is very usefully.

Or you could try ggi the holly grail of multiple monitor support.

Have fun.

-- 
Edward Betts  http://www.hairnet.demon.co.uk/


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian games?

[Robert Wilderspin]

On 31 May 98 11:14:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mikhali Mifsud) wrote:

>What Xwindow games are avilable on Debian?

Well, some people seem to like Quake and Quake2.  Another great
multiplayer is Xpilot, which includes AI-controlled enemies.  It may
not look like much, but the gameplay is great.  Mirrormagic is a very
good rehash of Deflektor (the old C64 game).


Rob Wilderspin
--
"But I need it to crash once every few days - 
reboots are the only chance I get to sleep..."
--= (send replies to rob@)


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Help with multi-boot please.

[INFO]

Hi, 

Can anyone help me?

I have installed (mostly) Linux on to my secondary hard drive (d:). I have NT4 
sitting on the first partition of my primary (c:) and win95 sitting on the 
second partition of my primary (e:). There is also a third partition of my 
primary (f:) which I use for deep store. All file systems are FAT.

I have a multiboot set up which allows me to choose between NT and 95. 

When I finished (alomost) setting up Linux, I got the following error message:

"Currently it is impossible to boot from the second harddisk. Please boot using 
rescue disk method and configure LILO manually."

Note: When I set up Linux I partitioned d: into two (normal and swap.).

I can boot to the Boot disk happily.

How do I get it to boot to my second hard drive? How do I set up the multiboot?

Many thanks.

Ed Egan.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So I tried booting with the rescue but couldn't find any refernce to LILO.




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to upgrade from smail to exim?

[Jack Kern]

On Sat, May 30, 1998 at 03:06:32PM +0300, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
[...]
> >> with a lot less problems than exim.
> 
>  I couldn't get smail to work and went to exim, which worked almost out-of-
>  the box. :)

Funny I have had the opposite experience.  smail ok outa-the-box; exim
was a wreck.

I had smail working and due to the enthusiasm for exim on this list I
installed exim.  The error messages seemed to indicate that it had a
problem with the procmail line in ~/.forward.  Is there a general
conflict with exim and procmail?  Removing smail required a
--force-depends but the exim installation seemed fine.  Did the forced
smail removal leave some problems?  I reinstalled smail and everything
is OK.


-- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Jack Kern   Yarmouth, Nova Scotia   Debian GNU/Linux 2.0


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: non-removable file

[W Paul Mills]

On Sat, 30 May 1998, Corey Miller wrote:

>   I had my computer lose power, and when I rebooted it fsck reported
> that I needed to run it manually. I did so, and it seemed to fix the
> problem. However, today I noticed a change in one of my files in my home
> directory. It looked like this:
> 
> c--xr---wx   1 130918308  35,  32 Sep  8  1996 README
> 
>   I cant seem to find any way to remove it, even as root. I tried
> everything that I could think of, and it wouldn't even let me change the
> permissions on it. Any ideas on how I can deal with this? Thanks for your
> help,

debugfs

/*** Running Debian Linux ***
*   For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son,  *
*   that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16  *
* W. Paul Mills*  Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A.*
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *  http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/  *
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *  http://www.networksplus.net/wpmills/  *
* Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? *
/


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: directory tree and .deb's

[Jack Kern]

On Fri, May 29, 1998 at 11:53:00AM -0400, G. Kaplan wrote:
> Can I determine the destination directory of a package from the Packages
> file. My objective is to calculate the disk storage requirement for all
> (or a preselected subset of)  packages by destination directory. Where
> can I find this information without actually installing the package.

By "Packages file" do you mean, e.g.,
"/var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/Packages.dists_frozen_main"?  If so, I don't
believe the desired information is there.

If you mean an individual package file, e.g., xyz-0.13.deb, then "dpkg -c
xyz-0.13.deb" displays an "ls -l" of the archive therein.  One doesn't
have to install the package to see this.

-- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Jack Kern   Yarmouth, Nova Scotia   Debian GNU/Linux 2.0


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Help! Major crash in Hamm upgrade!

[Mark Phillips]

Back again.  I've tried a few more things and thought I should report what
I've found.  (In case you didn't read my earlier email - I've had a major
crash while attempting to upgrade to hamm.)

I have managed to boot under a rescue disc (I think it's a bo one).  I
copied e2fsck from my brother's computer (he runs debian 1.2 I think).  I
ran e2fsck on my /dev/hda1 and eventually that seemed to fix my disk.

I then manually mounted /dev/hda1 at /mnt and everything seems still to be
there.

I then tried to reinstall lilo.  I did this by copying my brother's
version of lilo onto a floppy, modifying lilo.conf to take into account
the fact that things were at /mnt/boot/ rather than /boot/ and so
on.  Then I ran lilo, but it complained:

LILO Version 19.
Reading boot sector from /dev/hda
Merging with /mnt/boot/boot.b
First boot sector is version 20.  Expecting version 18.

So this didn't work - probably because my brother has an old version of
lilo???

Anyway, I then tried a custom boot disk I had.  It managed to boot -sort
of.  It complained halfway through about not being able to run
/etc/init.d/boot or something like that.  Then later it complained about
there not being a /proc directory.  Eventually I did get a login prompt,
but I couldn't login.  It seemed to have booted, but in a pretty broken
state.  (As a result I had to take it down without syncing - meaning I
will probably have to run e2fsck again).

So the stuff is still there, but in a pretty broken state.  How do I
recover?  Help me someone!  This is the worst crash I've had with Debian
(probably my own fault though.)

Thanks in advance,

Mark.

__
_\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/
\__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
\__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/   
\__/_\__/--\__/__/  /__"To be is to do."__I. Kant___/
\__/__\__/___/  /__"To do is to be."__A. Sartre_/
/__"I am."God___/
/__Jesus did.___/


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Less in color?

[Michael Harnois]

Asher Haig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That doesn't seem to do anything different. My problem is that when I 
> pipe an ls to less, I end up with a bunch of b/w color codes instead of 
> colors. Makes it hard to read.

Did you do ls -r? That seems to be the key.

-- 
Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Juvenal


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pinnacle CD writer

[Chris Zander]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Sun, 31 May 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote:
>I have access to a Pinnacle for a few hours tomorrow and would like to
>burn a hamm cd or two.  
>
>The notes for xcdroast say that the Pinnacle is not supported.  Is there
>any software out there for Linux that does support it?
>
>TIA
>Lindsay
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Lindsay Allen   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Perth, Western Australia
>voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj  Debian Linux
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

this is not completely true-
xcdroast v0.96d supports the following Pinnacle recorders:

 * Pinnacle Micro RCD-5020 (see TEAC/JVC)
 * Pinnacle Micro RCD-5040 (see TEAC/JVC)
 * Pinnacle Micro RCD-4x4 (see TEAC/JVC but no auto device detect:

if yours is not among them, cdrecord supports:

 Pinnacle Micro RCD-1000 (see TEAC/JVC)
 Pinnacle Micro RCD-5020 (see TEAC/JVC)
 Pinnacle Micro RCD-5040 (see TEAC/JVC)
 Pinnacle Micro RCD-4x4 (see TEAC/JVC but no auto device detect: use
   driver=teac_cdr50 please report inquiry)

Both can be found as debian packages.

- --
Stone's Law:
One man's "simple" is another man's "huh?"
- --
==
 Christian Zander
  *  web:  ishmael.ml.org/~zander 
  *  email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3ia
Charset: noconv

iQCVAwUBNXFx5BZiJXs96Q11AQE5TQQAgL/s5EbCzmR3p8Hz/qHIgKi7UmIkE+Si
QSo2wa6XYOp68VrpkPh2LLFP+2YKNWgss3dVi7nC453AB9hYRlbklH7SwzXxsvh0
Yn43zGEHxqnSjqIfqFpZJTyXf0R99GJ0aXNmfgx1qKqf8HvjBoKCjN6ToJtArcUe
RljnndmtBkg=
=q3GZ
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dual screens

[Johan Levin]

I've recently come across an old monocrome
display/display card. It works fine in dos,
but I can't figure out how to use it in Linux.
Can I e.g. create some device like /dev/console?

I'd appreciate any help.

/Johan Levin   Sweden


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: autoup v0.22 problem

[Ralph Winslow]

When Bob Hilliard wrote, Ralph replied:

I used the one unpacked from the tarball rather than the latest.
Having since retrieved the v0.27, things have gone swimmingly
(except that my ISP hung up on me after 6 hrs. of download;
I realy need a 56K or cable modem ;-) and I expect to be running
hamm in just a few more hours of downloads.  Perhaps I'll start
running a mirror.
> 
> Ralph Winslow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I finally bit the bullet and picked up autoup22 by downloading
> > autoup.tar.gz,
> > unpacking it, chmod +x ./autoup.sh && ./autoup.sh. I answered c to the
> > what
> > method and it crashed with 'unexpected EOF' (See attached script
> > output).
> >
> > I can't see anything wrong with autoup.sh (which see) - I checked () ""
> > <<__EOF__ __EOF__.  Anyone have a clue?
> 
> Hi,
>  That bug in v0.22 was reported and fixed some time ago. (The
> problem is that __EOF__ must be on the start of a line.)
> 
>  The version of autoup.sh (0.23) on www.debian.org is obsolete
> (unless it has been upgraded today).  The current version is 0.27, and
> is available from http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/,
> http://taz.net.au/autoup/, or ftp://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/.
> 
>  Current versions of autoup.tar.gz are just a tarball of the files
> needed to run autoup.sh.  The script has to be downloaded separately.
> 
> Bob
> --
>_
>   |_)  _  |_   Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   |_) (_) |_)  Palm City, FL  USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
> 
> --
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
-
Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED]



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: No E 14 yet

[Daniel Martin at cush]

"M.C. Vernon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I too like fvwm2, but I can't configure the menu - I've RTFM and looked at
> the config pages, but I can't add things to sub-groups of the main menu -
> whatever I try just ends up at the bottom of the main menu (i.e. the
> `root' menu that comes up first when you click the mouse). I guess you
> must have got this sussed (I know a lot of packages auto-add themselves to
> the menus in the right place, but I'd like to add some more, and the big
> config file has do not edit all over it :( )

The problem with RTFM is that sometimes it's hard to figure out which
manual it is one is supposed to read.

Hooking into the auto-generated menus is best done through the menu
package - point your favorite web browser to
file://localhost/usr/doc/menu/html/index.html
and read the section on "How a user can override the menus".  The
advantage of this is that your new entries would appear in other menus 
should you choose to change window managers.  (You can also make
certain menu entries fvwm2 specific, but even then they'll appear in
things like fvwm95 which can, in theory, do anything fvwm2 can)

Alternatively, you could in your post.hook have code like:
AddToMenu "/Debian/XShells" "&Super-user xterm" Exec ssh -l root localhost 
xterm -title "Root Shell"


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pre-Gap Enhanced CD's

[Marcus Brinkmann]

Does Debian support Pre-Gap Enhanced CD technology (accessing multimedia
information on an audio CD) ?

Windoze does not anymore...

Thank you,
Marcus

-- 
"Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ 
Marcus Brinkmann   http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]for public  PGP Key
http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/   PGP Key ID 36E7CD09


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: No E 14 yet

[M.C. Vernon]

> Most of my X usage is on xterms at university, which do 8 bit colour only,
> and I hear that E isn't so good in such circumstances. I even found
> afterstep to chew too many colours to be worthwhile. Instead I am a
> diehard fvwm2 fan.

I too like fvwm2, but I can't configure the menu - I've RTFM and looked at
the config pages, but I can't add things to sub-groups of the main menu -
whatever I try just ends up at the bottom of the main menu (i.e. the
`root' menu that comes up first when you click the mouse). I guess you
must have got this sussed (I know a lot of packages auto-add themselves to
the menus in the right place, but I'd like to add some more, and the big
config file has do not edit all over it :( )

Thanks,

Matthew

-- 
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo

Steward-elect of the Cambridge Tolkien Society
Selwyn College Computer Support
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/
http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/
http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: X installation for ATI Page II+

[Jaakko Niemi]

>> Hi!
>> i'm pretty new to linux, and still struggling. i've installed bo 2
>> months ago.
>> I've AMD K6, 32M RAM, ATI Page II+ with 4M.
>> 
>> i can't startx.
>> i wanted to ask whether anybody encountered special problems with ATI
>> Page II+, because my debian reacts only to ctrl+alt+del EVEN after I
>> select
>> the generic VGA adapter and standard VGA as monitors.
>> But the setup, working on that default selection itself, works fine!
 
 You'll most propably need XFree  version 3.3.2 for the Rage II chips 
 to work correctly. And that most propably means an upgrade to hamm.

--j



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pinnacle CD writer

[Lindsay Allen]

I have access to a Pinnacle for a few hours tomorrow and would like to
burn a hamm cd or two.  

The notes for xcdroast say that the Pinnacle is not supported.  Is there
any software out there for Linux that does support it?

TIA
Lindsay
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lindsay Allen   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Perth, Western Australia
voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj  Debian Linux
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: No E 14 yet

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Sun, May 31, 1998 at 06:12:46AM +0300, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
>  A total rewrite of Enlightenment. Only a point bump .. .13 to 14 for a 
> rewrite. Can't 
>  wait for the one dot something.. ;)

Enlightenment must be damn good given the fanaticism it seems to attract.

Most of my X usage is on xterms at university, which do 8 bit colour only,
and I hear that E isn't so good in such circumstances. I even found
afterstep to chew too many colours to be worthwhile. Instead I am a
diehard fvwm2 fan.


Hamish
-- 
Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5
CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.   http://hamish.home.ml.org


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Help! Major crash in Hamm upgrade!

[Mark Phillips]

The last few days I have been upgrading to hamm.  I rebooted my computer
and it died badly.  Instead of coming up with lilo, it repeatedly typed:

LI
LI
LI
LI
LI
LI
...etc

down the screen.  It looks like the boot sector has been corrupted or
something like that, but I don't know what I've done which could have
caused that!

Let me give a summary of what I did:

1.  I ran autoup.sh - it had all sorts of complaints, but they seemed to
stem from one particular package that needed upgrading - I upgraded this
package and then reran autoup.sh and everything seemed to run smoothly.

2.  I then ran dselect to upgrade my system to hamm (I have mirrored most
of hamm on a hard disk.)  The first few times this failed right at the
start - it seems a perl package I had mirrored had problems - but running
mirror a day or two later downloaded a new version of this package and
that seemed to fix the problem.

3.  Running dselect install several times seemed to install most things
successfully, but there were a number of packages it had errors with.  In
fact it eventually died, complaining that there had been problems with too
many packages to continue.

4.  I remember the autoup.README had said that I should reboot the machine
and then change a couple of things.  I thought I should do this.  Although
not everything had installed properly, I figured enough had for now.  Now
I think about it, probably none of the packages had been configured!
Still I don't know how this would affect the boot sector?

5.  Anyway, I closed down everything and typed sync followed by
ctr-alt-del.  It stopped various processes, but didn't reboot as normal.
Instead it hung.  So I hit the reset button and then had the
LI
LI
LI...
problem described above.

6.  I put in my custom boot floppy and tried that, but it had a kernel
panic, complaining that it couldn't mount the root filesystem!

7.  I tried finding my debian installation disks.  I found a rescue disk,
but can't find a root disk!


Now I am up the creek without a paddle!  My machine seems completely
stuffed and I've got little idea what to do, or what is wrong.  (I also
need to use my machine - obviously I can't.)

The only thing I can think to do is to download a bo root disk, somehow
get e2fsck, and see if that fixes my root partition (which actually
contains almost everything including /home and /usr)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance,

Mark.


__
_\/___\__/___Mark_Phillips___/
\__/_\__/--\__/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
\__/HE___\__/--APTAIN/   
\__/_\__/--\__/__/  /__"To be is to do."__I. Kant___/
\__/__\__/___/  /__"To do is to be."__A. Sartre_/
/__"I am."God___/
/__Jesus did.___/


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: No E 14 yet

[Jaakko Niemi]

>> 
>> --huq684BweRXVnRxX
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> 
>> On Sat, May 30, 1998 at 09:28:17AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Hi all, I am at Linux Expo and there is STILL no E 14 yet.  So the wait=
>> =20
>> > continues.
>> 
>> what is E 14? :)
 
 A total rewrite of Enlightenment. Only a point bump .. .13 to 14 for a 
rewrite. Can't 
 wait for the one dot something.. ;)

--j



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Yamaha sound card help

[M.C. Vernon]

> Hello, 
> 
> I have spent so much time trying to set up my Yamaha sound 
> card (OPL-SA3), but now it only partially works. So I need 
> more help to have it worked. Hopefully, I can write a report 
> about this. :) 

I haven't tried mine yet, but another very helpful guy suggested this URL
helped him to get his set up properly:

http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/solo/216/index.html

I hope this helps, but thank Cheng-Chang Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> not me!

Matthew

-- 
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo

Steward-elect of the Cambridge Tolkien Society
Selwyn College Computer Support
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/
http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/
http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian games?

[M.C. Vernon]

> What Xwindow games are avilable on Debian?

That's a hard question - there are lots. I like Xbomb (like minesweeper,
but so much better - triangles are _impossible_), Xblast, and of course
angband :)

I suggest you run dselect and have a look through the xgames section ;)

HTH,

Matthew

-- 
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo

Steward-elect of the Cambridge Tolkien Society
Selwyn College Computer Support
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/
http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/
http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Debian games?

[Mikhali Mifsud]

What Xwindow games are avilable on Debian?




==

"live life to the full because your DEAD longer than your alive."
   



_
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yamaha sound card help

[ctang]

Hello, 

I have spent so much time trying to set up my Yamaha sound 
card (OPL-SA3), but now it only partially works. So I need 
more help to have it worked. Hopefully, I can write a report 
about this. :) 

I am using 'isapnp' and sound module in kernel. The card is 
known to work at I/O 530 IRQ 7 DMA 0, MIDI MPU_401 I/O 330 IRQ 9
and OPL3/OPL4 FM I/O 388. So in the kernel, I select MS Sound 
System support,  OPL-2/OPL-3 FM, MPU-401 and Crystal Lake CS4232 
card and config as above. But when loading sound module, system
pompt: 

 kernel: Sound initialization started
 kernel: [IRQ Conflict?] at 0x534 irq 7 dma 0,0
 kernel:  at 0x330 irq 9 dma 0
 kernel:  at 0x388
 kernel: Sound initialization complete 

But /dev/sndstat looks fine 

 Card config:
 (CS4232 MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0)
 (CS4232 at 0x530 irq 7 drq 0,1)
 MS Sound System at 0x530 irq 7 drq 0
 Roland MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0
 OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0
 
and /proc/interrupts showing

  7:6254976   SoundPort   

The card also works fine in playing midi, wav or mp3 file. Known
problems are 

 1. Only root can play midi files. It seems to be a problem in 
confguration. Where needs to change?

 2. The following module in mixer does not work
`vol'  `bass' `treble' `synth' 
`line' `cd'   `pcm2'   `rec'   `ogain' 
so basically mixer cann't work and sound quality is not good. 

 3. Ther is no sound when playing CDROM. and I found no connector in 
sound card. how can I make CDROM work with this card?

Sorry for this long post and too many questions. Your kind help 
is appreciated... 


-cheng


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Soundblaster 16 PnP Help

[rE^d]

On Sat, 30 May 1998, Ian Keith Setford wrote:

> Yo-
> 
> > I am in the process of trying to get my SoundBlaster 16 pnp card set
> > up and have read through the Kernel-Howto, Sound-Howto, and SB16 pnp
> > mini-howto, and had a couple of questions on how to do this. If anyone has
> > this set up, SB16pnp card and Debian 2.0 (Deep Frozen), along with the 
> > Kernel
> > 2.033, I would like your input.
> You asked!
> 
> > 1. What card do I select when compiling the kernel? I thought I would
> > chose the Sound Blaster 16, but wanted to make sure.
> Choose the SB16.
> 
> > 2. In the mini-how to it says to add a few lines in your boot up
> > process to load the monuals. But I cannot find the /etc/rc.d/rc.M file. What
> > is the debian equivalent? (This is the /sbin/isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf line).
> I use isapnptools and the pnpdump and isapnp programs it contains.  You
> must know the IRQ and DMA addresses.  
> 
> > I did try compiling the kernel yesterday and failed totally. It
> > would not boot. So I am asking everyone here for some help. Just not real 
> > sure
> > what to do to get it working.
> Did you get compile errors?  Did you run make zimage or zlilo?  Oh yeah,
> sound *MUST* be compiled as a MODULE in order for it to work.
^^
NOT true..  I have has sound in the kernel many times..   anyway I
recomend to have it as a module..

> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> -Ian
> 
> _
> Ian K. Setford  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   H: 940.566.0461
> Pgr: 817.901.0255
> 
> 
> --
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 


,- ---  -- -  -   - -
| "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
| "Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Führer" - Adolf Hitler
|--- - --  -   --
. Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Irc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  tlf: 0704800958 IRL: rEd
.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [dt316@hotmail.com: ]

[Asher Haig]

Martin Schulze, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 5/31/98 8:51 AM

>  I'm new to the linux debian system and i'm having troubles
> using the Tar (Tape Archiver) i am trying to extract the
>  X_V10r3_tar.tar  Archive but am not used to the program only pkzip
>  can someone please write out an example of what it is to look like
>  I'm trying to extract it in Dos then install it in Linux.
>
>  i have put : tar x x_v10r3_tar.tar 2,231,938 1.4M fd135ds18

tar -xvf 

don't actually type the "<>s" and the v is optional (shows what it's 
expanding)



   ==
   | Asher Haig[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
   | Pager/Voice Mail  (972) 328-9247 |
   ==
"It was like a visit by Don Carleone. I expected to 
find a bloody computer monitor in my bed the next day."
-- Mark Andreessen regarding the visit from Microsoft.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[dt316@hotmail.com: ]

[Martin Schulze]

- Forwarded message from Dream Theater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: at Infodrom Oldenburg (/\##/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.12 Joey)
by finlandia.Infodrom.North.DE from murphy.debian.org with smtp
id ; Sun, 31 May 98 05:35 MET DST
Received: from ([205.229.104.6]) by teergrube (0 sec delayed, relaying denied)
Received: (qmail 3409 invoked by uid 847); 31 May 1998 03:34:23 -
Received: (qmail 3394 invoked by uid 38); 31 May 1998 03:34:23 -
Received: (qmail 3387 invoked by uid 38); 31 May 1998 03:34:22 -
Date: 31 May 1998 03:34:22 -
X-From_:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat May 30 22:34:22 1998
X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 3362 invoked from network); 31 May 1998 03:34:21 -
Received: from f97.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.216)
  by murphy.novare.net with SMTP; 31 May 1998 03:34:21 -
Received: (qmail 18425 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1998 03:33:54 -
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from 203.24.77.246 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP;
Sat, 30 May 1998 20:33:54 PDT
X-Originating-IP: [203.24.77.246]
From: "Dream Theater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 
Content-Type: text/plain
Old-Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 20:33:54 PDT
X-Diagnostic: Unprocessed
X-Envelope-To: debian-faq-request
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old-X-Status: F
X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Status: F


  I'm new to the linux debian system and i'm having troubles
 using the Tar (Tape Archiver) i am trying to extract the
  X_V10r3_tar.tar  Archive but am not used to the program only pkzip
  can someone please write out an example of what it is to look like
  I'm trying to extract it in Dos then install it in Linux.

  i have put : tar x x_v10r3_tar.tar 2,231,938 1.4M fd135ds18

  The program the example is : 
   tar -[tapefile][blocksize][disksize] file...

 Thankyou for your Time
dt316
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


__
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

- End forwarded message -

-- 
  / Martin Schulze  *  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *  26129 Oldenburg /
 / http://home.pages.de/~joey/
/ Unix is user friendly ...  It's just picky about it's friends /


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: exim defering local deliveries

[Steve Lamb]

On Sat, 30 May 1998 10:35:04 -0700 (PDT), George Bonser wrote:

>What are the permissions on /var/spool/mail and /var/spool/mail/?

drwxrwsr-x   2 root mail 1024 May 31 00:25 .
drwxr-xr-x  11 root root 1024 May 30 01:23 ..
-rw-rw   1 morpheus mail 1326 May 30 09:12 morpheus
-rw---   1 root mail  573 May 30 09:12 root

>I think Debian's exim wants the mail files writeable by the mail user.

Looks fine.

>is also possible that there are two exim processes trying to write mail to
>the mailbox at the same time so one gets deferred.  Exim can have multiple
>simultanious delivery attempts happening.

I don't think that is case or either I'd get mutliple notifications in
the logs, wouldn't I?  Also, simultanious on every delivery?  Seems a little
far fetched that it would be so perfectly synced.


-- 
 Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my
http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's.  They hired me for my
 ICQ: 5107343  | skills and labor, not my opinions!
---+-



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Setting up initrd / Using a RAM Disk (Is there a (good) alternative?) to make a jaz the root fs with a PCMCIA scsi adapter

[Asher Haig]

I want to use a jaz disk as my root fs. The problem that I'm running into 
is that I need to use a pcmcia scsi adapter -- and pcmcia services are 
loaded off the hd. I need to repartition the HD, so of course I can't be 
using that as a root fs.

It seems from what I'm reading in teh docs that I can use initrd to load 
those pcmcia modules and then mount /dev/sda1 as the root fs. How do I go 
about doing this? I'm lost as far as how to set up initrd and how to make 
it use /dev/sda1 after that. 

Please! Help! I desperately need to repartition and I can't figure out 
where to start.


   ==
   | Asher Haig[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
   | Pager/Voice Mail  (972) 328-9247 |
   ==
"It was like a visit by Don Carleone. I expected to 
find a bloody computer monitor in my bed the next day."
-- Mark Andreessen regarding the visit from Microsoft.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SWAP or swap

[Norbert Veber]

> Can anyone verify this.. I don't wanna waste disk space if it's not gonna be
> used.  Thanks to you George.

if you dont beleive it, run this program:

#include 
#include 

void main () {
unsigned long int *j,i;
double total=0;

for (i=1;i<5;i++) {
total=total+sizeof(i);
j=malloc(sizeof(i));
if(j==NULL) {
printf("malloc() failed, quitting\n");
break;
}
else
*j=random()%5000;
}
printf("done, sleeping\n");
sleep(600);
}
-

I wrote this one day when I was really bored.. :)  Just paste it into a
file, run gcc filename, and run ./a.out, and watch free or top..


pgpqNMMHKjueu.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Re: I need an HTML Editor

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

Ooops. psgml, not psgmlk. 
Package: psgml
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: text
Installed-Size: 801
Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 1.0.1-17
Depends: emacs19 | emacs20, sgml-base, sgml-data
Recommends: sp (>= 1.3)
Suggests: debiandoc-sgml, linuxdoc-sgml, make
Description: An Emacs major mode for editing SGML documents.
 PSGML is a major mode for editing SGML documents.  It contains a
 simple SGML parser and can work with any DTD. (The most popular
 nowadays are the HTML DTD's. This package turns your emacs into the
 one of most powerful HTML editors and will be ultimately flexible as
 well, since you could upgrade your editor by just installing new
 DTD's). Functions provided includes menus and commands for inserting
 tags with only the contextually valid tags, identification of
 structural errors, editing of attribute values in a separate window
 with information about types and defaults, and structure based
 editing.
 .
 Since psgml parses the DTD to allow you to edit SGML documents, you do
 need to have the DTD's installed in order to use psgml. Since psgml
 installs itself as an HTML mode in Emacs, it depends on sgml-data. Some
 other packages which also provide SGML DTD's are suggested, like
 debiandoc-sgml and linuxdoc-sgml.
 .
 SGML, a language for encoding the structure of a document, is an ISO
 standard: ISO 8879:1986 "Information processing - Text and office
 systems - Standard Generalized Markup Language (SGML)".
 .
 This is a standard package for XEmacs.

manoj
-- 
 Never eat at a place called Mom's.  -- Nelson Algren
Manoj Srivastava  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05  CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: angband save problems

[Ed Cogburn]

Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here is the config.h file that is used in the packaged
>  version. This corresponds to the 2.8.3 version; the only changes made
>  were (define UPDATE_VIEW_COMPLEX_WALL_ILLUMINATION, ALLOW_DEBUG,
>  ALLOW_SPOILERS), and modify DEFAULT_PATH and MAINTAINER. Nothing
>  about save files.
> 
> I am including a diff from the original, followed by the
>  actual file used.
> 
> manoj
>  baffled
>
>[snip config.h]


Its 1am on a Saturday ... What the HELL am I doing messin' around with 
this
problem on Saturday night?!?  God, I need to get a life.

Well, I have an answer, but I'm almost afraid to admit how long I've 
spent
trying to figure it out.  First off, I must have a real memory problem
(biological, not silicon).  My system also displayed the same behavior in
the console.  In the recent past, I've played (a little) Angband on DOS,
Win32, Linux Console, and Linux X.  I simply got confused about whether ^S
worked or not on my Linux system in the Console.
Anyway, the problem isn't your config.h, its not Angband, its us the
*users*.  That's right, us.  The "problem" is that in a Linux console, by
default, XON/XOFF processing is turned on in the terminal driver.  There is
no corresponding functionality in X (but in this respect XTerm, acts just
like the console).
To "fix" this "problem", all you need to do is issue the command 'stty
-ixon' in the terminal (tty) that your about to play Angband in.  This
disables XON processing, which means ^S isn't intercepted by the terminal
and gets passed to Angband instead (Angband was never *seeing* the ^S
keypress).  Of course, this only applies to playing Angband in the console,
or in an Xterm.
[embarrassed flush, spreading quickly]  Oh well, at least I learned
something new.

On another curious note, Manoj, why is Angband considered 'non-free'?


-- 
Ed


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: User views on software reqd, please

[Robert Wilderspin]

On 31 May 98 01:12:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I have a feeling that this is not going to get me far but I'm going to ask
>anyways:
>1) Does anyone here uses mechanical drafting apps (like AutoCAD or
>Cadkey-lookalikes) under linux? I have a demo of Varicad running, and there is
>a LinuxCAD, but they don't have any demos..Or how about microstation95?
>2) Does anyone know if dosemulator or wine run autoCAD or Cadkey?

I have no idea about (1), but for (2) I believe that DOSemu runs
almost all DOS programs, so autoCAD should be okay.  I stand ready to
be corrected though.


Rob Wilderspin
--
"But I need it to crash once every few days - 
reboots are the only chance I get to sleep..."
--= (send replies to rob@)


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: non-removable file

[Bob Hilliard]

Corey Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> c--xr---wx   1 130918308  35,  32 Sep  8  1996 README
> 
>   I cant seem to find any way to remove it, even as root. I tried
> everything that I could think of, and it wouldn't even let me change the
> permissions on it. Any ideas on how I can deal with this? Thanks for your
> help,

 You might try using chattr.  I have never used it, but it has
often been recommended in similar cases.

 I have often had success running mc in the directory with the bad
file.  Highlight the file with the cursor, and press F8 (I think) for
delete. 

Bob
-- 
   _
  |_)  _  |_   Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  |_) (_) |_)  Palm City, FL  USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Help! My debian machine has a mind of its own!

[Nathan E Norman]

On Sat, 30 May 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: Hi,
: I have been using Debian 2.0 (from install disks) along with kernel
: 2.0.33 for the past month or two. My Debian box serves httpd, ftpd, telnetd 
for
  ^^

I saw a lot of weirdness with 2.0.33, especially when the load got over
1.0.  What kind of hardware do you have?  Also, anything interesting in
the logs?

Switching back to 2.0.32 solved a lot of problems.

[ I once had a similar rebooting problem with a P90 - it was bad RAM ]

--
Nathan Norman
MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD  57104
mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.midco.net
finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: User views on software reqd, please

[Bob Nielsen]

There is a version of microstation available, but AFAIK only in for
educational use.  There was at one time some information on Bentley's web
site.

On Sat, 30 May 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote:

> G'day everybody --
> 
> I have a feeling that this is not going to get me far but I'm going to ask
> anyways:
> 1) Does anyone here uses mechanical drafting apps (like AutoCAD or
> Cadkey-lookalikes) under linux? I have a demo of Varicad running, and there is
> a LinuxCAD, but they don't have any demos..Or how about microstation95?
> 2) Does anyone know if dosemulator or wine run autoCAD or Cadkey?
> 
> Thank you very much for any and all feedback. I realise this is not the best
> group to ask those questions but I have more faith in the answers I get here
> than in the newsgroups.
> 
> Damir
> 
> P.S. Does anyone know if mutt mailer will be available as a deb package linked
> to slang1 libs as opposed to slang0.99.38?
> 
> 
> --
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 


Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

User views on software reqd, please

[Damir J. Naden]

G'day everybody --

I have a feeling that this is not going to get me far but I'm going to ask
anyways:
1) Does anyone here uses mechanical drafting apps (like AutoCAD or
Cadkey-lookalikes) under linux? I have a demo of Varicad running, and there is
a LinuxCAD, but they don't have any demos..Or how about microstation95?
2) Does anyone know if dosemulator or wine run autoCAD or Cadkey?

Thank you very much for any and all feedback. I realise this is not the best
group to ask those questions but I have more faith in the answers I get here
than in the newsgroups.

Damir

P.S. Does anyone know if mutt mailer will be available as a deb package linked
to slang1 libs as opposed to slang0.99.38?


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 3d pass through

[Robert Wilderspin]

On 28 May 98 02:02:53 GMT, in linux.debian.user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

>I just got another machine which I would like to dual boot *grin* with
>Winblows so I can have fun playing StarCraft and Unreal.  I would like to
>get a 3dfx card.  Will linux care if the 3dfx card is installed?  I don't
>wish to use the 3dfx card in linux just the regular pci card I already
>have.

The answer to your question is "No, Linux won't care about the 3dfx
card at all."

However, it's worth noting that StarCraft is rumoured to be working
under WINE, the free Windows emulator for Linux.  On top of that, a
petition is being organised to get the authors of Unreal to port it to
Linux.  So, perhaps you won't have to dual-boot for very long.  :-)


Rob Wilderspin
--
"But I need it to crash once every few days - 
reboots are the only chance I get to sleep..."
--= (send replies to rob@)


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dict

[Bob Hilliard]

Alan Eugene Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I installed all I could get hold of, of dict*.  I snarfed it a couple
> or three weeks ago off Incoming.  I noticed there is no Webster's.
> Perhaps there should be  a note?  By the way, where can I get ahold of
> the appropriately formatted Websters?

 The copyright for the 1913Webster in not DFSG compliant.  Rather
than package it to go in non-free, I have discussed the copyright with
Pat Cassidy, who edited the current version.  He has agreed to prepare
a public domain version with some of the tags (that are not used by
dictd) omitted.  I had hoped to have this available before now, but I
heard earlier this week from Rik Faith (the author of dictd and dict)
that he and Pat were "working on the tag set currently.  It may be a
few more weeks until there is a PD version."  I will package it as
soon as they release it.

 The following note is in the control file for dictd, which
provides the description in dselect.  Of course, if you get the
package from Incoming you don't get to see it. ;-)

: The following package is delayed due to copyright considerations.  It
: is expected to be available during May 1998
: dict-web1913   - 1913 Webster's Unabridged Dictionary

 A similar note is in /usr/doc/dictd/README.Debian.gz.

 The 1913Webster database is available from ftp://ftp.dict.org/pub/dict 
or ftp://ftp.cs.unc.edu/pub/users/faith/dict.  The version in the
../dict directory is "raw"; there is a preformatted version in the
../dict/pre directory.
  
 
> Also, I wasn't able to get dict to work easily at all.  What simple
> set up did I over look?  I tried to point it to a file on localhost,
> but it didn't want to find it???

 Did you install dictd?  You don't point dict at a file, you point
it at a dictd server.  Read /usr/doc/dict/README.Debian.gz and
/usr/doc/dictd/README.Debian.gz, and see the comments at the top of
the config files, /etc/dict.conf and /etc/dictd.conf.  If you still
have problems, get back to me with more specifics about your problem. 
 
> I'd like to get hold of an emacs function that would do a
> comprehensive search on the work under point.

 I'm afraid you would have to write that yourself.  ;-)

Bob
-- 
   _
  |_)  _  |_   Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  |_) (_) |_)  Palm City, FL  USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]