RE: GUS

1998-06-18 Thread Alexandre Maneu i Victòria
|¿Está el módulo cargado? (lsmod) ¿Y el device? (cat /proc/devices)
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Hola.

Por favor, me podrías decir como se llama el módulo? Gracia ;-)

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Hojas de cálculo en *.deb ??

1998-06-18 Thread Cosme Perea Cuevas
  Hola,
  
  he leido en las news que 'Xess' es una buena hoja de
  cálculo para Xwindow. Pero me he pasado por la web de
  Debian y no aparece.
  
  ¿¿  Alguien puede recomendarme una buena hoja de cálculo,
  tanto para X como para cónsola, y mejor si ya está
  empaquetada como *.deb (aunque lo más seguro es que a
  estas alturas tenga que bajarme el source 'debianizado'
  para compilarlo con libc5). ??
  
  Ya se que la de Star Office puede ser suficiente, pero
  tengo un i486 33 Mhz. con 16Mb de RAM !! (y que dure).
  
  Saludos.


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Re: Hojas de cálculo en *.deb ??

1998-06-18 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 12:27:40PM +0200, Cosme Perea Cuevas wrote:
   Hola,
   
   he leido en las news que 'Xess' es una buena hoja de
   cálculo para Xwindow. Pero me he pasado por la web de
   Debian y no aparece.
   
   ¿¿  Alguien puede recomendarme una buena hoja de cálculo,
   tanto para X como para cónsola, y mejor si ya está
   empaquetada como *.deb (aunque lo más seguro es que a
   estas alturas tenga que bajarme el source 'debianizado'
   para compilarlo con libc5). ??
   
   Ya se que la de Star Office puede ser suficiente, pero
   tengo un i486 33 Mhz. con 16Mb de RAM !! (y que dure).

Puedes probar oleo. Creo recordar que está en la 1.3.1

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Problemas con el fuente_ISO-COMO

1998-06-18 Thread J. Parera
Hola,
 en dicho howto habla de dos formas para utilizar el lenguaje español
correctamente, utilizando unicode o la forma tradicional.

Yo me he decantado por la unicode pués me parece la más moderna y la que más
buen resultado debe dar (supongo). El problema es que me pide que edite el
/etc/rc.d/rc.local (o algún otro script que se ejecute al arrancar) y en la
Debian 1.3.1 no existe igual que tampoco no existe otro archivo
/etc/rc.d/rc.font (para cargar la fuente unicode). Alguien sabe cual
ruta/archivo es el equivalente en Debian 1.3.1? En dicha distribución hay
alguna forma más correcta de hacer esto?

Supongo que tendrá algo que ver con la ruta /etc/rc.boot o algun runlevel
(3) pero a partir de aqui no tengo ni idea de que debo hacer. :(

Saludos,
  J. Parera

P.D.
 Alguien sabe de donde puedo bajarme el FAQ ISO LATIN? Por más que lo busco
no lo encuentro.


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Kernel bien configurado?

1998-06-18 Thread J. Parera
Tengo el kernel 2.0.30 (ya sé que es viejo pero me funciona bien, a más yo
no me bajo 6mb de la red por modem por un cambio relativamente pequeño. Por
cierto lo es?) el cual creo que no tengo bien configurado. Tengo una Zip
externa por puerto paralelo, un scanner con una tarjeta adaptador scsi
(Paragon 800 SP II) el cual no reconoce la tarjeta (o eso creo). Como debo
hacerlo para que me lo reconozca?

Saludos,
  J. Parera


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Xwindows con xdm

1998-06-18 Thread Doctor Panic
¿Como puedo configurar xdm para que arranque una sesión que pida el login?
Actualmente uso startx pero queria modificar el inittab para que arrancase un
xdm pero no consigo hacer que funcione. Cuando ejecuto xdm no pasa
absolutamente nada.
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Re: Problemas con el fuente_ISO-COMO

1998-06-18 Thread Santiago Vila
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Para cargar una fuente en el arranque yo ponía un script en /etc/rc.boot
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hacer enlaces simbólicos para los distintos runlevels, pero la verdad,
para qué molestarse en hacerlo tan legalmente si en Debian 2.0 ya no va
a hacer falta (porque el fichero /etc/kbd/conf te deja elegir la fuente
que quieras).

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Re: Xwindows con xdm

1998-06-18 Thread Agustin Martin Domingo
Doctor Panic wrote:
 
 ¿Como puedo configurar xdm para que arranque una sesión que pida el login?
 Actualmente uso startx pero queria modificar el inittab para que arrancase un
 xdm pero no consigo hacer que funcione. Cuando ejecuto xdm no pasa
 absolutamente nada.

Yo no lo utilizo, pero ahí va, recopilado de las news:

 Si quieres arrancar directamente a XWindows, tienes que configurarte un 
 arranque de nivel 5 en /etc/inittab, cambiando el 3 por un 5 en la primera 
 linea: 
 
 id:5:initdefault:
 
 En este caso se ejecuta automáticamente 'xdm' (display manager), y no hace 
 falta 
 teclear nada, o sea directo a XWindows.0


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Re: Xwindows con xdm

1998-06-18 Thread Enzo A. Dari
Agustin Martin Domingo wrote:
 
 Doctor Panic wrote:
 
  ¿Como puedo configurar xdm para que arranque una sesión que pida el login?
  Actualmente uso startx pero queria modificar el inittab para que arrancase 
  un
  xdm pero no consigo hacer que funcione. Cuando ejecuto xdm no pasa
  absolutamente nada.
 
 Yo no lo utilizo, pero ahí va, recopilado de las news:
 
  Si quieres arrancar directamente a XWindows, tienes que configurarte un
  arranque de nivel 5 en /etc/inittab, cambiando el 3 por un 5 en la primera 
  linea:
 
  id:5:initdefault:
 
  En este caso se ejecuta automáticamente 'xdm' (display manager), y no hace 
  falta
  teclear nada, o sea directo a XWindows.0
 

OJO, en Debian esto no funciona. El XWindows no tiene nada que ver con
los
runlevels.
El arranque del xdm se controla con el archivo /etc/X11/config
según se explica en:
/usr/doc/X11/debian.README

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Re: Xwindows con xdm

1998-06-18 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Agustin Martin Domingo decía:
 Doctor Panic wrote:
  
  ¿Como puedo configurar xdm para que arranque una sesión que pida el login?
  Actualmente uso startx pero queria modificar el inittab para que arrancase 
  un
  xdm pero no consigo hacer que funcione. Cuando ejecuto xdm no pasa
  absolutamente nada.
 
 Yo no lo utilizo, pero ahí va, recopilado de las news:
[método para red hat]

Esto en debian no funciona así. Lo que tienes es que editar el fichero
/etc/X11/config y quitar no- de las líneas que dicen no-xdm-start-server y
no-start-xdm

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Re: OpenLinux lite and Debian?

1998-06-18 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Shanta McBain wrote:

 hi
 
 I just got a book The Complete Reference Linux second edition and it
 contains a cd. OpenLinux Lite is this disk compatible with the debian
 core that I have installed?

 Not exactly. Actually, Debian includes a lot more stuff than OpenLinux.
OpenLinux has some Novell software that Debian doesn't have (I think) but
that's about it.

 Generally, any Linux CD you get in a book is automatically out of date.
It's just a function of publishing deadlines. The information in the book
will probably be helpful, though.

 Do I have to install the OpenLinux to take advantage of the programs on
 the CD?

 Probably not. There's a program called alien that will let you install
packages from most other systems. I *think* OpenLinux uses the .rpm format
which is supported.

 If you can't, you can install the Debian versions and most of the
information in the book should still be useful.

 Sincerely,

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you know how to create a OS?

1998-06-18 Thread Eliezer Figueroa

There is someone who know how to create a basic OS, if that the case 
please mail me your mail address.

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Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 12:08:49PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can you give me or point me to 1.1 to 1.2 to 1.3, or 1.1 to 1.3, upgrade
 instructions? Thanks.

I don't think there were a lot of instructions for those upgrades
at the time, unlike the 1.3 - 2.0 upgrade.

There is a file README in the bo subdirectory at the debian mirrors,
eg ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/bo/README, which gives instructions
for the 1.2 to 1.3 upgrade. I *think* (but cannot confirm) that there
should be no additional instructions for 1.1 to 1.3; it should work.
After you have upgraded those few packages by hand, run dselect
to upgrade everything else.


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Re: Trying to get a 1542C working.

1998-06-18 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Jim Lynch wrote:

 I'm getting the following error message upon boot:
 Unable to determine Adaptec IRQ level
 
 I had this card installed in a VLB system a while ago and replaced it
 with a pci scsi adapter when I upgraded.  I'm now putting a second
 machine together and am trying to get this working in a pci mother
 board.  There are no settings on the board for IRQ, just base address. 
 I've got it jumpered for 0x334, no floppy, etc.  What have I missed?  I
 searched the net for that error message and all I found was the message
 in the source code.
 
 Can anyone suggest a solution?  I don't recall having this problem with
 it in the vlb  box.

Probably an IRQ conflict, use the bios (ctrl-a) to configure the IRQ.

Jason


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Re: A must read for all Linux and computer lovers

1998-06-18 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 11:11:11AM -0700, Andrew Leonard wrote:
  
  I think it appeared some time ago on http://www.slashdot.org/.  The
  motto of this site is: `News for nerds.  Stuff that matters.'
  
  One word of warning here: it's addictive.
 
 No kidding. I'm a reporter/editor for Salon, and started to pay serious 
 attention to slashdot.org when they linked to Ellen Ullman's piece and 
 started sending us referalls by the bushload. So I wrote a story about 
 slashdot, and now find myself installing Linux. Wow.
 
 Andrew
 

More than that, you're also lurking on Debian. Bienvenue la compagnie :)
Great articles BTW! I like the to read you.
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Install disks for Debian/PowerMac?

1998-06-18 Thread Tor Slettnes

The Debian Hamm tree contains binaries for i386, alpha, m68k, sparc
and powerpc; but only install disks for the first four of these
architectures.  

How does one obtain install disks or a pointer to an install procedure 
for Debian on PowerPC/PowerMac?

Thanks
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Re: Desperate for Optical Character Recognition

1998-06-18 Thread Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
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 Does anyone know of any OCR software available for Linux? Preferably
 something that will plug into gimp with SANE and xscanimage - but anything 
 will
 do, console mode or X - I'm dying never to have to reboot to Windoze again! 
 :).

http://members.aa.net/~jtaves/linux.htm
http://www.serve.com/dstilwell/page3.html

Good luck!

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Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-18 Thread Robert Wilderspin
On 17 Jun 98 05:10:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Oh yeah? On my hamm-bo DOWNGRADE, I had to UPLOAD more than that.

Goddamn!  You win.  :-)


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as vs. as86

1998-06-18 Thread Chris R. Martin
I noticed that I have both as (GNU assembler provided by binutils) and as86
(provided by bin86).

What is the difference between these assemblers?

I have a seperate machine where I've compiled the lastest GNU binutils and
I would like to compile as86 as well, but I've been unable to figure out
where the source comes from.. can anyone tell me?

Thanks,
Chris


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Re: passwd

1998-06-18 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Chris wrote:

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Enlightenment problem

1998-06-18 Thread Patrick O'Brien
I thought I loaded all the necessary libs to run Enlightenment,
but when I try to run it I get a warning message that says it
can't load libIm1.so.1.

Any ideas as to which package will generate libIm1.so.1?

Thanks,
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Re: Enlightenment problem

1998-06-18 Thread Shaleh
Patrick O'Brien wrote:
 
 I thought I loaded all the necessary libs to run Enlightenment,
 but when I try to run it I get a warning message that says it
 can't load libIm1.so.1.
 
 Any ideas as to which package will generate libIm1.so.1?
 
 Thanks,
 Pat
 
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allo, where did you get your Enlightenment??  libIm is a VERY VERY VERY
old Imlib (like .4 or .6 and we are at 1.6).  Imlib and all needed libs
are in hamm and slink.  I packaged them and E soon (when .14 is out).


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Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

  Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and
  superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly
  through every version, even major version changes.

 The success varied and that mostly all users can upgrade
 easily...to hamm *without* reinstall also states that there were
 failures and that there will be users who cannot uprgrade w/o a
 reinstall.  There is no need for a re-install is an aboslute.  In
 your own words you have conceeded there will be cases that there will
 be a need for a reinstall.

while it is theoretically possible that a dselect/dpkg upgrade will
fail, i haven't seen it happen yet in several years of using and
upgrading debian.

i've done dozens of bo to hamm upgrades (using autoup.sh) without a
problem. i've done a handful of rex to hamm upgrades without a problem
(also using autoup.sh)

(i know that people have done buzz to hamm upgrades with autoup.sh too -
but i haven't done any myself)

also, over the last few years i have done literally hundreds of debian
upgrades on dozens of machines. i keep most of the machines i am
responsible for in sync with the latest stuff in unstable - most
machines get upgraded every week or two...some get upgraded every six
months or so.

in all of these upgrades i have not once run into any really serious
problem - one which corrupted dpkg's package status info...the majority
of problems encountered were minor, easily solved with a few minutes
work (editing config files or resolving dependancies manually by
installing/removing stuff with dpkg). occasionally an updated version of
a package is extremely buggy and i have to revert to an earlier version.

the only time i have ever had to reinstall from scratch was the result
of hardware failure. dpkg isn't proof against a dead hard disk.


so, to reiterate what i said earlier: in theory, you might occasionally
need to re-install rather than upgradebut in practice that will only
be necessary if your hardware fails. invest in a tape backup system and
a UPS.

in other words, empirical evidence supports the assertion that There is
no need for a re-install 


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Re: A must read for all Linux and computer lovers

1998-06-18 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:

  
  Shaleh writes:
   
[snip]
 
 I think it appeared some time ago on http://www.slashdot.org/.  The
 motto of this site is: `News for nerds.  Stuff that matters.'
 
 One word of warning here: it's addictive.

Thats two words. :) Or is it three?


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Re: Top doesnt work on a terminal

1998-06-18 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, W Paul Mills wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
 
  
  I am trying to use top on an old wyse terminal, but it will not display
  the processes below the column header. Also, when quitting, the prompt
  appears in the middle of the system info at the top of the screen, and
  when using commands such as u, the prompt appears with $xx sequences.
  the xx being a number.
  
  Can anyone help?
 
 ldd /usr/bin/top 
   libproc.so.1.11 = /lib/libproc.so.1.11 (0x4000b000)
   libncurses.so.3.0 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 (0x4001b000)
   libc.so.5 = /usr/lib/libc.so.5 (0x40058000)
 
 top uses ncurses, therefore you need to properly set the TERM 
 environment variable. See man ncurses.

Thanks... 

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Re: Mysterious frequent crashes at the same interval on three ma

1998-06-18 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Autumn wrote:

  Sorry I didn't make that clear.  It is the latter.  The first machine goes, 
  and
  six hours later the next machine goes, and ten minutes later, the last one 
  goes.
  The interval between machines stays the same to within a minute.
 
 Whoops!
 
 It's not six hours, it's one hour.  That was the new machine: System clock 
 set to
 EST, timezone set to GMT-5... not that it matters, a miss being as good as a 
 mile.
 


This is probably not possible, but can one/two/all be removed from the
network temporarily to see if that makes a difference?


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Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:30:26 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

Yes, but it is not the time to install hamm yet for an end user. I don't
think it is appropriate for Debian to switch over to Microsoft release
schedule (another extreme statement I'm happy to weak).

Rats, I'm not an end user?  *Steve looks at his hamm/slink system* 
Hrm...

What I wanted to say is similar to what Hamish said: The possibility to
update (most of the time even without reboot) Debian in place is a release
goal, and we are actually very good in achieving it.

I don't doubt that.

 Nah, just leave it at There are times when a reinstall is needed.

I would prefer There are times when a reinstalled may be preferred by the
user.

There we go.  Perfect.  Stamp it on the bumper sticker and ship it.



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Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can you give me or point me to 1.1 to 1.2 to 1.3, or 1.1 to 1.3,
 upgrade instructions? Thanks.

imo, you'd be better off waiting for hamm (2.0) to be released - or
order a pre-release hamm CD (there are several people who sell them...i
think netgod - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - burns unstable CDs on request).

hamm isn't released yet, but it is stable and high quality.  it works.

anyway, the autoup.sh script should be able to upgrade you from 1.1 to
2.0 without a problem...i know it was used to do that a few months ago,
but i don't think a buzz upgrade has been tested since then (not many
people are still running 1.1)

craig

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Re: as vs. as86

1998-06-18 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
* Chris R. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| I have a seperate machine where I've compiled the lastest GNU binutils and
| I would like to compile as86 as well, but I've been unable to figure out
| where the source comes from.. can anyone tell me?

See /usr/doc/bin86/copyright.

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Re: serving a win95 box

1998-06-18 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 02:19:58PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 16 Jun, Robert Wilderspin wrote:
  However, I'm not entirely sure if you can run programs directly from
  those drives
 Yes, you can run programs from the shares.
This is particularily useful for setup programs that install a (Windows)
package. Just copy the CD-ROM to the linux box and install over the network.

There is one notable exception however: If there are any components in the
path and filename to a 16-Bit executable that are not MS-DOS compatible
(i.e. with more than 8+3 characters, etc) the executable must be copied to
the computer where it will be run, otherwise you get a confusing error
message.

Nils

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Re: (oops) loading pcmcia eth0 II

1998-06-18 Thread Micha Kersloot
Michael Roark wrote:
 
 /lib/modules/2.0.30/pcmcia/3c589_cs.o: unresolved symbol . . .
 snip (there are several lines of this)

Looks like you've got diverent versions of the Kernel and the pcmcia
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Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1

1998-06-18 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 11:15:01PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
 dpk wrote:
  I,... what are people switching to?  Any recommendations for a fast,
  slick, and easily configurable wm?
 
 WindowMaker. As a bonus, it's similar to afterstep in look  feel. 
 
 To be fair, the config file for wmaker hasn't quite settled down yet,
 either. But you can do a lot of config stuff interactivly.

You can supposedly do a lot of config stuff interactively with AS 1.4 as
well, all the look/feel changing...  In fact I could ONLY do it
interactively which sounds bad if you ask me.  I've figured out with wmaker
how to run programs which happen to be in the Debian menu (which generally
annoys me) and dock the running program's tile to dock or fiend.  Dock
appears to do nothing but be a place to dock things to.  Fiend does this
too, but it's not glued to a side and I can't get the window manager to move
it to an out of the way place.  Fiend either needs to become docked or
replace the dock icon or something if it's not going to annoy me
significantly.

Essentially, it doesn't feel right to me and it doesn't help that I have no
idea how to do anything I haven't described here with it.  The config files
looked more like a C program or a sh script than a file with settings and
the like.

I want easy to use.  Something I can set up the way I want and be able to
change as the rest of my system does quickly and easily.  It's hard enough
using X as it is with my vision (anyone got a cheap and big monitor by
chance?  heh)


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PANIC! cant open cache /etc/ld.so.cache

1998-06-18 Thread Kent
tried to install the TCL and for some reason computer locked up
now system cannot open /etc/ld.so.cache

done e2fsch /dev/hda1 but still get error message.

What do I do to fix this problem
Why did it happen???

Need a soulution fast, I am afraid this will make it die

PANIC

thanks
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Questions - nic ident and stuff

1998-06-18 Thread John C. Ellingboe
Hello to the list,

Hopefully someone on the list will be able to identify a couple of
network cards I have and recomend what drivers to use for them.

1.  Novell Inc.  ISA card  (designed by Novel manufactured by Microdyne)
major chip is DP83905AVQB  AT/LANTIC   ( 3COM 905 )
Jacks for RX/AUX/BNC  no jumpers

2.  SMC  ISA card
major chips 83C690LJ P  83C694LJ P
jacks for AUI/BNC
jumpers for - software setup
- 280,3,D
- 300,10.CC000
- rom addresses  software/none and D8000


Where can I find the installer (.deb) package for Staroffice 4.

Is there a Debian package that will access twain compliant devices.  I
am interested in using the Play Inc. Snappy video capture device.

I guess that is enough for now.  I don't wont to overload things.

TIA

John


Now 100% MSF-1 compliant.


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fork: Resource temporarily unavailable

1998-06-18 Thread Guido Bozzetto
I've e Debian 2.0 frozen host with X windows and fvwm95.
Now when I run a program and some windows are opened often I'm
obtainig:
  xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable
or when I attempting to run xterm: 
  bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
and so on...
when the problem appear persist also with normal tty.

With few windows the problem don't exist.

Someone know where is the problem ? What I can to see ?

Some installed packages:
||/ NameVersion
+++-===-==-
ii  libc6   2.0.7pre1-4
ii  bash2.01.1-3
ii  xbase   3.3.2.1-1

The kernel is the 2.0.33.
Thanks Guido.
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Re: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable

1998-06-18 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 I've e Debian 2.0 frozen host with X windows and fvwm95.
 Now when I run a program and some windows are opened often I'm
 obtainig:
   xterm: Error 29, errno 11: Resource temporarily unavailable
 or when I attempting to run xterm: 
   bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
 and so on...
 when the problem appear persist also with normal tty.
 
 With few windows the problem don't exist.
 

It looks as though your system runs out of pid's (unlikely), or you hit
your maximum number of processes (not impossible).  What does ulimit -a
say about your max user processes?  How many processes are running?
(try top, or `ps ax').

ps ax | wc -l

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Re: Startup files disappeared [Urgent!]

1998-06-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 03:31:07PM +, Jay Barbee wrote:
 
 I did not want it installed, I prefer the sym-links myself aswell.  All seems 
 normal now that it is removed.  I guess I will know when it is time to reboot 
 (hopefully in another 93 days g).

Somewhat unrelated, but worth noting in this context:

I had once my whole /etc directory disappear into lost+found. After booting
from a rescue disk and fixing about three files (passwd, login.defs and
something I don't remember), I was able to boot in single user mode and fix
the system.

What I want to say is, even if the symlinks would be missing, the system
would still be able to boot in single user mode (maybe with only partly
support for certain hardware/partitions etc).

Marcus

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Problems with installing Debian 1.3.1 from CD on a Digital 5000 PC

1998-06-18 Thread Nils Inge Lilleheie
I'm trying to install linux on a Digital PC 5000 from a Debian 1.3.1 CD,
but
all it does is to start loadlin and then it hang

Have anyone experienced the same problem ?

Nils Inge Lilleheie


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Squid

1998-06-18 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
Hi All,

I am using Squid as my web cache and I have been playing reound with the
cachemgr script that come with Squid, but I can't seem to get it to work
properly, for some of the functions that can be selected when using this cgi
script it seems to want a password but everyone I try seems to be incorrect,  I
have lookes at the docs for squid and they say to create a user called cache
and use the password you assign to that user, but that doesn't seem to work.. 
Any ideas??

Regards

Graham


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Re: PANIC! cant open cache /etc/ld.so.cache

1998-06-18 Thread Ulisses Alonso
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Hi Kent!

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Kent wrote:

 tried to install the TCL and for some reason computer locked up
 now system cannot open /etc/ld.so.cache
 
 done e2fsch /dev/hda1 but still get error message.
 
 What do I do to fix this problem
 Why did it happen???
 
 Need a soulution fast, I am afraid this will make it die

I'm not sure what caused that but you could try to rebuild that file with
the command ldconfig (run it as root)

If your system does does not have /etc/ld.so.conf copy my attachment to
it, it may issue some warning errors if you don't use hamm... that will
not be a problem

regards,

Ulisses

PD: You can mount /dev/hda1 as rw, isn't it?
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Re: Startup files disappeared [Urgent!]

1998-06-18 Thread sjc
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 12:29:15AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 03:31:07PM +, Jay Barbee wrote:
  
  I did not want it installed, I prefer the sym-links myself aswell.  All 
  seems 
  normal now that it is removed.  I guess I will know when it is time to 
  reboot 
  (hopefully in another 93 days g).
 
 Somewhat unrelated, but worth noting in this context:
 
 I had once my whole /etc directory disappear into lost+found.

I hate it when that happens

 After booting
 from a rescue disk and fixing about three files (passwd, login.defs and
 something I don't remember), I was able to boot in single user mode and fix
 the system.

ahh yes..been there and done that...always FUN.

 What I want to say is, even if the symlinks would be missing, the system
 would still be able to boot in single user mode (maybe with only partly
 support for certain hardware/partitions etc).

well that depends on the problem..the fil;esystem corruption that I saw was 
unfixable. even fsck couldn't save it. It was bad...I could acess files
(sorta) and create files (which got their data promptly corrupted)
but I couldn't ever delete files. (it would try and fail)
(I made tarballs and sent them off to a win95 machine on an SMB share
all of them had corrupt data...only 2 of them could I get any useable
data from at all)

as always the moral is...backup, backup, backup
(but yes 90% of the time you can restore using lost+found and all the
cool neat tricks)

Of course... THEN my hardware startedto go bad...but thats another story 
-Steve


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Alpha architecture: stable?

1998-06-18 Thread Lutz Kotoll
Hi,

is the alpha architecture release of debian already stable enough for a
production machine?

Bye,
Lutz Kotoll

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Debian Linux TV System Card

1998-06-18 Thread Michael Acklin
Some one was asking about getting a TV Card to work on their Debian System,
last week, I think. Anyway ran accross this from Freshmeat and thought I would
share it with the list and maybe the person asking about getting the TV to
work
on Debian

===

subject: kwintv 0.4.3 
added by: dabman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
date: 06/17/98
kwintv 0.4.3 has been released. Changes in this version include:

o additioal setup dialogs for snap shots, aspect ratio and general options. 
o snap shots can be saved as jpeg or pnm files. 

kwintv is a KDE application based on the bttv-driver by Ralph Metzler. 
kwintv allows you to watch TV in a window on your PC screen. It has 
more or less the same abilities as xtvscreen which is included in the 
bttv-driver package, but it is based on Qt, a C++ GUI application 
framework by Troll Tech and it's integrated in the K Desktop Environment. 

o Download Source
(ftp://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/pub/Sources/misc/programs/kwintv-0.4.3.tgz
ftp://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/pub/Sources/misc/programs/kwintv-0.4.3.tgz) 
o Download Binary
(ftp://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/pub/Sources/misc/programs/kwintv-0.4.3-stat
ic.gzftp://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/pub/Sources/misc/programs/kwintv-0.4.3
-static.gz) 
o Screenshot
(http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wenk/tvss10.jpghttp://www.mathematik.uni
-kl.de/~wenk/tvss10.jpg) 
o Homepage
(http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wenk/xwintv.htmlhttp://www.mathematik.un
i-kl.de/~wenk/xwintv.html) 
o Appindex Record
(http://freshmeat.net/appindex?mode=viewitem=898078762http://freshmeat.ne
t/appindex?mode=viewitem=898078762)





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Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-18 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 10:15:07AM -0700, Nick Moffitt wrote:
  On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
  
   Yes, but *there is no need for a re-install*! Debian has a great and
   superior upgrading mechanism, and your system will update cleanly through
   every version, even major version changes.
  
 I was told that there was a way to auto-upgrade.  That is, my
  debian system would mirror or sense an update on the net somehow, and then
  download all appropriate packages and install them.  Is this a myth, work
  in progress, or reality?
 
 This is reality, often tested and works on many systems.
 
 The script is called autoup.sh, and is available from Craig Sanders, but
 also via Debian. I don't have an adress handy, please look at the
 website/ftpsite/in the mailing list archives. If you don't find it, anybody
 else knows?

 The autoup.sh is ment to be used in bo-hamm upgrade, AFAIK.
 Normal updates are easy, just point dselect/apt to a mirror, get
 updates and let it install. Just fire up and tap enter a few times.

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Re: Mesa

1998-06-18 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 Does anyone have any idea how long until Mesa3.0 libraries will be 
 debianized?
 (Appararently it is req'd by the latest version of Blender. :(. ).

 When they are out of beta, I guess. It's pretty easy to compile them 
 yourself though, just put them in /usr/local/lib and put a 
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib before executing Blender.

 About Blender: it has far too many buttons  widgets and needs
 some serious studying, I find C much easier to lear ;)

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Re: Please clarify...

1998-06-18 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
j:
 
  The autoup.sh is ment to be used in bo-hamm upgrade, AFAIK.
  Normal updates are easy, just point dselect/apt to a mirror, get
  updates and let it install. Just fire up and tap enter a few times.

It is usually a good idea to upgrade dpkg first with dpkg, in case there
have been enhancements of the package system.

Eric

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how to make an intermediate machine receive mail while the destination is down?

1998-06-18 Thread Carlos Carvalho
I need to shutdown our main mail server for hardware changes, and I'd
like that another machine in our department receives the mail and hold
it until the main server is up again, and then sends the stored mail
to the server. How can this be done? The temporary holder can be our
gateway/dns, for example, so that packets already travel through it.

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Tutor on bit and bitmasks

1998-06-18 Thread servis
Hi all,

I need some tutoring on bit and bitmasks.  I am playing around with
the new joystick kernel driver(ver. 1.2.3) and it requires some
kernel options to specify the joystick configuration.  This is what
part of the info file says:

---Documentation/joystick.txt

  For other joystick types (more axes, hats, and buttons) support you'll
need to specify the types either on the kernel command line or on the module
command line, when inserting joy-analog.o into the kernel. The parameters
are:

js_an=p0,m0,n0,p1,m1,n1 ...

  Where 'p' is the port number, eg. 0x201, which is the standard address.
'm' and 'n' are joystick 0 and joystick 1 bitmasks for the specified
joystick port. The bits in the bitmasks mean:

Bit | Meaning
-
 0  | Axis 0
 1  | Axis 1
 2  | Axis 2
 3  | Axis 3
 4  | Button 0
 5  | Button 1
 6  | Button 2
 7  | Button 3
 8  | CHF Buttons 4 and 5
 9  | CHF Hat 0
10  | CHF Hat 1
11  | FCS Hat

  An example that would confugure the driver to use two two axis, two button
joysticks connected to port 0x201, a single four button four axis joystick
connected to port 0x202, a four axis, six button and two hat CHF compatible
joystick on 0x203, and a two axis four button FCS compatible joystick with a
single hat on 0x207:

js_an=0x201,0x33,0xcc,0x202,0xff,0x00,0x203,0x7ff,0x00,0x207,0x83f,0x00

--

I need to set bits 0,1,4,5,6,7,11 for port 0x201.  I have NO IDEA how
to calculate the bitmask!  Obviously I need to learn this stuff so were
can I read up on this.

Thanks,
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RE: 8 GB limit on cfdisk?

1998-06-18 Thread Richardson,Anthony

 Mark H. Mabry wrote:
 I'm having a problem partitioning my 9.6 GB harddrive on my Dell P-II
 400.  This is an EIDE drive.  When I use cfdisk, it sees only 8 GB.
 I believe that this is due to a limit in cfdisk which sets the max
 number of sectors to 1024.  Mine should have 1227 (approx).

 When I boot Linux it identifies my hard drive and says it has 9.6 GB.
 Also, when I used Partition Magic to reformat my windoze 95 area, it
 saw all of my disk.

 I am running linux 2.0.34, cfdisk 0.8l (from util-linux-2.8), on
 Debian 1.3.1r8.

 Is this a program limitation?  Is there a workaround?  Is there
 another program for Linux that I could use?

 Any and all help is much appreciated.

 Mark Mabry
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1024 is the maximum number of cylinders that may be stored
in a partition table entry (10 bits). 1024 is also the
maximum cylinder that can addressed using the standard
BIOS routines. (With a tranlating BIOS this limits you
to 8 GB, with an old BIOS the limit was 504 MB). Fortunately
Linux doesn't use the BIOS functions to talk to the disk
or use the CYL/HEAD/SECT addresses in the partition table
to locate partitions. You can tell Linux that you've got more
cylinders with the hd=cyls,heads,sects boot option. (cfdisk
will ask the kernel for the disk geometry. You can also tell
cfdisk that you've got more than 1024 cylinders with the -c
option. See the man page.) Make sure the number of heads and
sectors match the numbers used by the BIOS.

One note: Since most (all?) boot managers use the BIOS
to load the OS, you should make sure the kernel stays
under the 8 GB limit by having your root partition
lie entirely under the 8 GB limit. (With an old, non-
translating BIOS this limit is only 504 MB.) How do you
know if you have a translating BIOS? If you can make a
partition greater than 504 MB under DOS, you've got one.

See the following for detailed info:
1) Large-Disk mini HOWTO
2) cfdisk man page
3) BootPrompt HOWTO for info on hd=cyls,heads,sects

Good luck!
Tony Richardson


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Mysterious frequent crashes due to incompetence, lies, and hardware.

1998-06-18 Thread Autumn
Eureka!

The problem is solved through the combined application of Drake's, Ted's and
Eric's solutions.

Eric: You were correct.  To my chagrin, there was in fact an NT administrator
loose in the building, gnawing at the wires, and telling me lies.  He told me,
for example, that the three machines in question were _not_ on the same UPS, and
that other non-linux machines _were_ on the same UPS as some of the rebooting
machines.  As I should have suspected immediately, he was lying to cover some
more heinous scheme.  His evil plan has been exposed, and the people are all
following the most excellent path once again.

Ted and Drake: You are correct.  The reboot time shown in the logs reflects 
the
CMOS clock, as xntpd has not yet taken over.  The machines were in fact all
rebooting at roughly the same time (believe it or not, one machine really does
take 3-5 minutes longer to reboot than do the others).  Having realized that, I
decided it was time to get my knees dirty and crawl around in the server room.
Whaddya know?  They were all on the same [faulty] UPS.  I'm such an idiot.

Many thanks to y'all for your help and patience.

Autumn

P.S.
The intern has accused me of pessimism.  He feels that I should call it an IPS,
rather than a faulty UPS.


 Are the machines rebooting simultaneously (i.e. at the same absolute clock
 times, allowing for system clocks differing), or at quite different absloute
 times (but with matching inter-reboot intervals)?

 If the former, consider your power supply.

 If the latter, then the Society for the Investigation of Paranormal Phenomena
 would like to hear from you.

 Best wishes,
 Ted.

 
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Re: Desperate for Optical Character Recognition

1998-06-18 Thread Don Berkich
Does anyone know of any OCR software available for Linux? Preferably
something that will plug into gimp with SANE and xscanimage - but anything will
do, console mode or X - I'm dying never to have to reboot to Windoze again! :).


Me too!  

There is an old project, xocr (located at sunsite under apps/graphics). 
I don't know how good it is, because I haven't be able to get it to
compile.  There are evidently some libraries required I don't have.  If
anyone has gotten xocr compiled let me know, I'd be interested in
finding out how you did it.

There is another old project, OCRchie at 

http://http.cs.berkeley.edu/~fateman/kathey/ocrchie.html
  
that is basically the result of a class project.  I haven't looked at it
yet.

There is the startup of a project at
http://starship.skyport.net/crew/amk/ocr/, but that doesn't help us any.

Another project that looks interesting is SOCR at

 http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~singlis/ocr/

This is a university supported project to create a GPL'd OCR.  It's
still in it's infancy, however.

The only OCR I've found which is reasonably functional is from the
scanshop people (Vividata at www.vividata.com)

Their product is called OCRShop and it's built using Caere's Recognition
Engine.  It does fairly well.  The downside is that it is commercial
software.  Their asking price for it is something like 750.00.  Gulp. 
They do give you a free thirty day trial on it, which I'm currently
using.  But even with the educational discount (25% off) it's still
entirely outside my budget.  Heck, I built my last computer for less.  

It's not a GIMP plugin, of course.  What I do is scan in using SANE +
GIMP and save as a tiff file.  Then I pass the tiff file on to OCRShop. 
Guess I should get back to scanning and rendering because I've only got
three more days left on the trial license...

Oh, I did ask them if they consider giving me a significant discount on
the software (better to earn 100 than nothing, right?) But they replied
that they are under a licensing agreement with Caere which is evidently
pretty pricey for them. 

On the other hand, OCRShop is beta and often, about once per session,
chokes on a tiff file and segfaults.  It also isn't quite as
configurable as one might want--duh, like commercial software ever is...

Once I get done with the prospectus for my dissertation I'm going to
volunteer to help out with one of the two ongoing GPL projects.  If
anyone knows of any other projects let me know...  There really is a
need for a good GPL'd OCR, particularly for academics like myself in the
humanities.  

That's all I've got, Timothy.  Good luck!

--Don


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retract PPP Peer Question (oops!) Everything's OK now

1998-06-18 Thread Chip Grandits
I posted a message the other day on a problem pinging the DNS for my ISP.  The 
problem ended up being inaccurate documentation from my ISP on the nameserver 
addresses - can you believe it?! (Actually you probably can).  When I actually 
checked the DNS entries on my windows machine at work they didn't jibe with the 
documentation I was working from at home.
  
I'm now wired up to the rest of the world on my Linux box - All is well!  Next 
- Netscape installation!  Does anyone have an opinion on using the mail package 
that comes with Netscape communicator? 

-Thanks again to all those who helped.
Chip Grandits


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LATCP anyone?- an idea

1998-06-18 Thread sjc
[I tried to send a message like this last night but accidently 
screwed up...so I apologize if the old version shoots out of my home
mail system at some point to this list]

Ok...I have been digging around here at work, and we seem to have a problem.
All of us techs ocasionally need to fix Terminal server settings on a 
LAT (terminal server). The problem is that the program we do this with
(TSM) is a little screwed. 

First of all it is on a VAX. Secondly on one of the main VAXs it complains of
a Licence issue. Also on the only other VAXmost of us can use, that VAX
is on its last legs.

My thought: Linux can do so many things...why not talk LAT?

I am interested in working on a package to allow a linux box to talk
LAT. The problem is that LAT is a DEC proprietary protocol.
From what I understand from talking to people, it is not a terribly
complex protocol (and its a very old protocol). The main problem is
I can't find any documentation on this protocol.

DOes anyone know this protocol? Is there any good info on it (I found
nothing searching the web)? 

If no such information is available...could it be possible to log raw
ethernet packets (LAT is layered right on top of Ethernet it is its own
protocol like IP) and possibly be able to work towards making a filter
to filter out uninteresting data?
Are there any programs for doing this (as I imagine it is possible)?

I know all of this is probably beyond my capabilities...but I figure
it can't hurt to investigate and see if something can be done. I would
love to find out its possible and make a nice package allowing
debian boxes to Speak LAT. 

Anyone else interested (possibly someone who has a better idea of exactly
what is involved)? am I crazy? (no don't answer that)

-Steve


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Re: how to make an intermediate machine receive mail while the destination is down?

1998-06-18 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Carlos Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I need to shutdown our main mail server for hardware changes, and I'd
 like that another machine in our department receives the mail and hold
 it until the main server is up again, and then sends the stored mail
 to the server. How can this be done? The temporary holder can be our
 gateway/dns, for example, so that packets already travel through it.
 
 Carlos

Well, you'll need to modify your MX dns record to point to the new
destination - you'll then need to tell the gateway machine that's
holding the mail explicitly how to route it, or else the machine
holding the mail will try to send it to itself, and mail will get
caught in a loop.  How to do this depends on what mail software is on
your gateway/dns machine.

But why bother?  If your main server is only going to be down for one
or two days, then there shouldn't be any problem in simply not having
something to hold the mail - if the sites sending the mail can't get
through to your mail server, they'll just hold it until they can get
through.  Typically, what will happen is that people trying to send
mail to your site will only even notice that something's odd if your
server is down for three days (in that case, the person who sent the
mail will get something from their mail server saying This message
has been undeliverable for 3 days; we'll keep trying for another 9
days), and all the mail will get through if your main server is down
for less than twelve.


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The juggernaught expands?

1998-06-18 Thread Rift
My father is a beta tester for Microsoft products.  On his mailing list 
recently he recieved yet another call for testers. This one, however seemed out 
of place to him, so he called me about it.

Microsoft is seeking testers registered in our Beta Test program who 
are experienced in, and have access to, the Linux operating system (Redhat or 
Debian distributions preferred) and are able to run XFree86 reliably.  Please 
respond to


Anyone heard of this yet? what are they testing?  He responded, but it'll be a 
while before he hears anything [typically 3-4 weeks.]



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XServer error. Please Help!

1998-06-18 Thread David Miner
I recently installed DEBIAN Linux and downloaded some packages.  My problem
is when I try to start X it wont start and I get this message back.

Fatal server error:
No valid modes found.

_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver
xinit:  No such process (errno 3): server error.

Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

Thanks


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Re: XServer error. Please Help!

1998-06-18 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, David Miner wrote:

 I recently installed DEBIAN Linux and downloaded some packages.  My problem
 is when I try to start X it wont start and I get this message back.
 
 Fatal server error:
 No valid modes found.

What server are you using (vga16, svga etc.)? Did you run XF86Setup or
XF86Config? (as root)

It sounds like you haven't.

HTH,

Matthew 

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Re: how to make an intermediate machine receive mail while the destination is down?

1998-06-18 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

[ snip ]

: something to hold the mail - if the sites sending the mail can't get
: through to your mail server, they'll just hold it until they can get
: through.  Typically, what will happen is that people trying to send
: mail to your site will only even notice that something's odd if your
: server is down for three days (in that case, the person who sent the
: mail will get something from their mail server saying This message
: has been undeliverable for 3 days; we'll keep trying for another 9
: days), and all the mail will get through if your main server is down
: for less than twelve.

While I agree that it shouldn't be a big deal for a mailhost to be down
a few days, I feel obligated to point out that sendmail at any rate
defaults to 5 day timeouts for undeliverables.  I see very few machines
in this part of the world which queue mail for much longer than that.

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FW: XServer error. Please Help!

1998-06-18 Thread David Miner


I recently installed DEBIAN Linux and downloaded some packages.  My problem
is when I try to start X it wont start and I get this message back.

Fatal server error:
No valid modes found.

I'm running the SVGA server and ran XF86Setup.  I also had to edit
/etc/X11/Xserver  because it originally had None for the server


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SMTP mail

1998-06-18 Thread Brian Morgan
I can now send and receive mail on my Debian box, but only to addresses
within our local domain (greenville.edu).  It doesn't seem to be sending
stuff off-site.  Is there a sendmail or SMTP type package that I need to
install to get this going right?

Brian


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Re: 8 GB limit on cfdisk?

1998-06-18 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Mark H. Mabry wrote:

   Even though my BIOS is using LBA, and the kernel sees all
 9.6 GB of my disk, the fdisk and cfdisk seem to use the C/H/S
 settings.  

I could be wrong about this; I'm no expert.

I have a PD-CD drive, and early Linux drivers would detect and use it (I
could mount it and read/write), but fdisk couldn't handle it (to change
partitions for example).  The fix was to pass the gemeotry as a boot
parameter.  I added this to lilo.conf:

append=hdc=634,64,32 
#append=hdc=cylinders,heads,sectors 

(For device /dev/hdc obviously)

Maybe this would help?
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Re: SMTP mail

1998-06-18 Thread Will Lowe
 I can now send and receive mail on my Debian box, but only to addresses
 within our local domain (greenville.edu).  It doesn't seem to be sending
 stuff off-site.  Is there a sendmail or SMTP type package that I need to
 install to get this going right?

can you resolve names outside greenville.edu (try pinging one or
netscaping to one like www.debian.org or sunsite.unc.edu)?

are you using a smarthost?
Will


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Re: Questions - nic ident and stuff

1998-06-18 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
John C. Ellingboe wrote:

 Hello to the list,

 Hopefully someone on the list will be able to identify a couple of
 network cards I have and recomend what drivers to use for them.

 1.  Novell Inc.  ISA card  (designed by Novel manufactured by Microdyne)
 major chip is DP83905AVQB  AT/LANTIC   ( 3COM 905 )
 Jacks for RX/AUX/BNC  no jumpers

Use driver NE2000

 2.  SMC  ISA card
 major chips 83C690LJ P  83C694LJ P
 jacks for AUI/BNC
 jumpers for - software setup
 - 280,3,D
 - 300,10.CC000
 - rom addresses  software/none and D8000

Use driver... I believe WD80x3.

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Re: 8 GB limit on cfdisk?

1998-06-18 Thread Mark H. Mabry
 AR == Richardson,Anthony  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote the following on Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:52:00 -0400

  AR 1024 is the maximum number of cylinders that may be stored in a
  AR partition table entry (10 bits). 1024 is also the maximum
  AR cylinder that can addressed using the standard BIOS
  AR routines. (With a tranlating BIOS this limits you to 8 GB, with
  AR an old BIOS the limit was 504 MB). Fortunately Linux doesn't use
  AR the BIOS functions to talk to the disk or use the CYL/HEAD/SECT
  AR addresses in the partition table to locate partitions. You can
  AR tell Linux that you've got more cylinders with the
  AR hd=cyls,heads,sects boot option. (cfdisk will ask the kernel for
  AR the disk geometry. You can also tell cfdisk that you've got more
  AR than 1024 cylinders with the -c option. See the man page.) Make
  AR sure the number of heads and sectors match the numbers used by
  AR the BIOS.

Okay, now we are getting to the meat of the problem.  As you say,
Linux doesn't use the BIOS functions or C/H/S addresses to locate
partitions.  That is why the kernel can see all of my disk at boot.
So why does cfdisk see only 8 GB?  Why doesn't it get its info the
same way the kernel does?  Why does cfdisk have to ask the BIOS for
this info?  

Good to know about the -c option to cfdisk, I missed that one.  

Last night I set the cylinders in cfdisk.  I had two choice on what to
set:  

C/H/S:  16383/16/63  (what my harddisk label says)
  or
C/H/S:  1229/255/63  (the shifted equivalent.  Very close to what
  cfdisk reported.  What Partition Magic reported.)

I chose the latter so that my Linux partition might line up with my
Win95 partition.  But after I had made all my partitions, written the
partition table, and rebooted (arghh) so that cfdisk could re-read the
partition table, cfdisk would not come up because it said I had a Bad
Partition Table.  Probably due to my last partition extending beyond
the 1023 cylinder boundary.  So I tried fdisk and it let me in fine
and then allowed me to re-set the cylinder number.  I'll try cfdisk
-c tonight.

  AR One note: Since most (all?) boot managers use the BIOS to load
  AR the OS, you should make sure the kernel stays under the 8 GB
  AR limit by having your root partition lie entirely under the 8 GB
  AR limit. (With an old, non- translating BIOS this limit is only
  AR 504 MB.) How do you know if you have a translating BIOS? If you
  AR can make a partition greater than 504 MB under DOS, you've got
  AR one.

Thanks, I did this.

  AR See the following for detailed info: 
  AR 1) Large-Disk mini HOWTO 

I read this and found it did not explain this problem very well.  It
seemed geared toward the 504 MB limit.  Only under SCSI does it
reference the 8 GB problem and there it give no solution.  

Mark Mabry
Avici Systems
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Re: (oops) loading pcmcia eth0 II

1998-06-18 Thread Ian Stuart
Micha Kersloot wrote:
 
 Michael Roark wrote:
 
  /lib/modules/2.0.30/pcmcia/3c589_cs.o: unresolved symbol . . .
  snip (there are several lines of this)
 
 Looks like you've got diverent versions of the Kernel and the pcmcia
 modules
That would tie in with my experiences - you need to redo both the pcmcia
modules and the kernel at the same time - no idea why...

I use make-kpkg for both, then dpkg -i with the resultant .deb files -
it even sorts out lilo for me ;-)

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Re: The juggernaught expands?

1998-06-18 Thread Shaleh
Rift wrote:
 
 My father is a beta tester for Microsoft products.  On his mailing 
 list recently he recieved yet another call for testers. This one, however 
 seemed out of place to him, so he called me about it.
 
 Microsoft is seeking testers registered in our Beta Test program who 
 are experienced in, and have access to, the Linux operating system (Redhat or 
 Debian distributions preferred) and are able to run XFree86 reliably.  Please 
 respond to
 
 Anyone heard of this yet? what are they testing?  He responded, but it'll be 
 a while before he hears anything [typically 3-4 weeks.]
 
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coming our way.


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Re: Tutor on bit and bitmasks

1998-06-18 Thread Shaleh
Any of your good C books show how bits and bitmasks work.  That example
is a bad one and the driver is rather ugly if it makes people work in
bits.


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The juggernaught expands?

1998-06-18 Thread Glenn Amerine
 Rift == Rift  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Rift   My father is a beta tester for Microsoft products.  On
Rift his mailing list recently he recieved yet another call for
Rift testers. This one, however seemed out of place to him, so he
Rift called me about it.  Microsoft is seeking testers
Rift registered in our Beta Test program who are experienced in,
Rift and have access to, the Linux operating system (Redhat or
Rift Debian distributions preferred) and are able to run XFree86
Rift reliably.  Please respond to

Rift Anyone heard of this yet? what are they testing?  He
Rift responded, but it'll be a while before he hears anything
Rift [typically 3-4 weeks.]

They might be checking to make sure Windows98 cleanly wipes out Linux
as it installs. ;-}

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Re: 8 GB limit on cfdisk?

1998-06-18 Thread Mark H. Mabry
 Mark == Mark H Mabry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote the following on Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:44:29 -0400

 AR == Richardson,Anthony  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote the following on Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:52:00 -0400


  Me Okay, now we are getting to the meat of the problem.  As you
  Me say, Linux doesn't use the BIOS functions or C/H/S addresses to
  Me locate partitions.  That is why the kernel can see all of my
  Me disk at boot.  So why does cfdisk see only 8 GB?  Why doesn't it
  Me get its info the same way the kernel does?  Why does cfdisk have
  Me to ask the BIOS for this info?

I guess what I am asking is why doesn't (c)fdisk use LBA which is what
the kernel uses?

Mark Mabry
Avici Systems
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RE: Mysterious frequent crashes due to incompetence, lies, and h

1998-06-18 Thread Ted Harding
On 18-Jun-98 Autumn wrote:
 Eureka!

Well done! It looked pretty mysterious in the first instance.

 Eric: You were correct.  To my chagrin, there was in fact an NT administrator
 loose in the building, gnawing at the wires, and telling me lies.  He told
 me, for example, that the three machines in question were _not_ on the same
 UPS, and that other non-linux machines _were_ on the same UPS as some of the
 rebooting machines.  As I should have suspected immediately, he was lying to
 cover some more heinous scheme.  His evil plan has been exposed, and the
 people are all following the most excellent path once again.

This looks like Let's sabotage Linux by plugging the Linux machines into the
dodgy PS and pretending they all crash while NT machines on the same PSs
keep going. Please attach said person to the faulty PS (I think we want a bit
of on/off here) and report his crash rate ...

Anyway, good detective work, in spotting the synchrony. We're all glad to have
been of some help in resolving this threat to world peace.

Best wishes,
Ted.


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Can't get X to Run, Please help!

1998-06-18 Thread David Miner
I recently installed DEBIAN Linux and downloaded some packages.
My problem is when I try to start X it wont start and I get this message
back.

Fatal server error:
No valid modes found.
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver
xinit:  No such process (errno 3): server error.

I'm running the SVGA server and ran XF86Setup as root.  I also had to
edit
/etc/X11/Xserver  because it originally had None for the server

The contents of /etc/X11/Xserver are
 /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA
 Console
  EOF 

The is an older COMPAQ computer here at work that I thought I would test
LINUX on.  I believe it is a Cirrus Logic with .5 meg video ram.  I used
640x480 for monitor resolution standard VGA in the XF86Setup.  I'm not
sure what color mode?

When I startx after it kicks me back to a prompt my screen text is red.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dave


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need help

1998-06-18 Thread Wiria A Kusuma
Hi all.., its me again asking for your help, I had my isp running, I use
debian linux as authentication server, my problem is that I do not know how to
limit one login session per user, I had tried to write a script to do that job 
with expect, but I do not know how to do it correctly, can you please help me? 
I need a script to monitor my terminal server for multiple connections and 
disconnect them, or is there a better way? I had radiusd installed but the tech
person down here do not know how to do it as well, please help me

TIA
kusuma

ps. I had attached the telnet session from my TS.

U.S. Robotics
Total Control (tm) NETServer Card

login: login: 
Password: 
Medan-1sh ses
Port UserHost/Inet/Dest   TypeDir Status Start   Idle
 ---  --- --- - -- --
S0   !root   -Log/Net In  USERNAME   -  10:25
S1   razalil ppp4-mdn.indosat Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED 1:00  0
S2   elwinosmppp17-mdn.indosa Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED 2:27  0
S3   robertipppp26-mdn.indosa Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED1  0
S4   surya067ppp42-mdn.indosa Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED   22  0
S5   hilinic ppp10-mdn.indosa Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED 1:59  0
S6   hp20153 ppp46-mdn.indosa Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED 1:41  0
S7   -   -Netwrk  In  IDLE   0  0
S8   glguru  ppp38-mdn.indosa Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED0  0
S9   andych  ppp61-mdn.indosa Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED   27  0
S10  sumada  ppp18-mdn.indosa Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED 2:05  0
S11  mediatm ppp36-mdn.indosa Netwrk  In  ESTABLISHED6  0
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Re: Can't get X to Run, Please help!

1998-06-18 Thread Michael B. Taylor


On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, David Miner wrote:

 I recently installed DEBIAN Linux and downloaded some packages.
 My problem is when I try to start X it wont start and I get this message
 back.
 
 Fatal server error:
 No valid modes found.
 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
 giving up.
 xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver
 xinit:  No such process (errno 3): server error.
 
 I'm running the SVGA server and ran XF86Setup as root.  I also had to
 edit
 /etc/X11/Xserver  because it originally had None for the server

Are you sure that you installed this server?  For every Debinized Xserver
that I have installed, the post-install script has asked something like
Do you want to make this your defalut Xserver?  Answering yes causes
the script to make the proper entry in /etc/X11/Xserver.

Mike


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Re: The juggernaught expands?

1998-06-18 Thread sjc
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 10:12:02AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Shaleh wrote:
 
  Well. I like that we are mentioned (-:  Looks like IE for Linux is
  coming our way.
  
 
 I hope they are not wasting their time with a program like IE that most
 will never use, I hope they are porting Word, Excel, and Power
 Pig^H^Hoint.

Oh gee just what we need. I will admit, I could use a good word processor
LIKE Word...but please NOT word!

I mean really...its a word processor...nice to have but...come on...
they can't even keep it compatible with older versions of itself!
and just think of all the benefits of having word... Word Macro Viruses,
a completely asinine file format. 
(I believe I told the story on this list before of when I was called to 
look at a MS Word file that was corrupt when a grant was pending at 
the hospital)
 
 The only way IE gets users is by forcing the browers down their throats
 like Mac and Win do. Given an equal choice, 85% choose Netscape and 15%
 choose Exploder.


Definitly. And lucky for us...it will be impossible for Uncle Bill to force 
Linux users to install IE. Oh and another great Feature that comes with IE
ActiveX.

 
 Microsoft! Which end of the stick do you want today?

Exactly! And thats exactly why I wont use their products, even if they come
out for linux. I mean I understand that they are a buisness and it is their
job to make money...not to make people happy.

What they do is good buisness in the most pure sense but...there are limits
They take good buisness to the most apauling level...I personally 
find it disgusting.

They will not see a dime from my wallet as long as I can help it.

-Steve


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Re: The juggernaught expands?

1998-06-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:33:36 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Definitly. And lucky for us...it will be impossible for Uncle Bill to force 
Linux users to install IE. Oh and another great Feature that comes with IE
ActiveX.

The Mac version doesn't have AX, something tells me a Linux version
wouldn't either.

Exactly! And thats exactly why I wont use their products, even if they come
out for linux. I mean I understand that they are a buisness and it is their
job to make money...not to make people happy.

Why is it that people always assume that making money and making people
happy are always mutually exclusive?


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1021 cylinders(?), 8.4GB, and FreeBSD

1998-06-18 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

I've been trying to add a freebsd to a spare partition, but I'm running into a 
bit of oddness.

I have an 8.4gb maxtor.  I have an initial partition of something like 100Mb 
for /boot, so that it could be boot from.  After this partition, I am 
attempting to put a freebsd.  Which is where it gets odd.

During starup I get a report of 16k or so cylinders.  But when I head into the 
bios, or fdisk under either bsd or debian, I get a report of 1021 cylinders, 
255 heads, 63 sectors.  (hmm, that's debian; i think bsd said 999 sectors).

The bios offers a couple of options for the geometry of the disk.  LSB, 
normal, and something else.  It also notes that some OS's such as SCO require 
normal; would this be the case for FreeBSD as well?

I don't recall changing to the 1021 format, and the sizing of the /boot as 
well as another long-gone partition was set so that they'd both end up 
(entirely) within the first 1023.

Can I change my disk geometry now?  Or will this kill everything?  Or is there 
another way to boot FreeBSD?  as near as I can tell, even with the floppy, it 
wants it's root partition in the first 1023, even when using the boot 
diskette; and in spite of my alleged geometry, it gives a report of C 1023 
exceeded or some such.

hmm, I suppose I could put / onto the scsi zip . . . 

rick
 

Or does someone know another way 
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Re: SMTP mail

1998-06-18 Thread Brian Morgan

Yes, I can resolve outside names (pinging and "netscaping"). I'm
not familiar with a smarthost. Does that have to do with SMTP or
sendmail? Isn't there some other sort of SMTP services I need to
be running?

Brian Morgan


can you resolve names outside greenville.edu (try pinging one or
netscaping to one like www.debian.org or sunsite.unc.edu)?

are you using a smarthost?
> I can now send and receive mail on my Debian box,
but only to addresses
> within our local domain (greenville.edu). It doesn't seem to
be sending
> stuff off-site. Is there a sendmail or SMTP type package that
I need to
> install to get this going right?



Can't get X to Run, Please help!

1998-06-18 Thread David Miner

I recently installed DEBIAN Linux and downloaded some packages.
My problem is when I try to start X it wont start and I get this message
back.

Fatal server error:
No valid modes found.
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver
xinit:  No such process (errno 3): server error.

I'm running the VGA16 server and ran XF86Setup as root.

The contents of /etc/X11/Xserver are
 /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_VGA16
 Console
  EOF 

The computer is an older COMPAQ 486 DX 50 here at work that I thought I
would test LINUX on.  I believe the video card is a Cirrus Logic with .5 meg
video ram (it is built into the motherboard), however I selected unsupported
VGA just to be safe.  I used 640x480 for monitor resolution standard VGA
in the XF86Setup.  XF86Setup seems to run fine but after saving to
XF86Config and exiting startx returns the above error.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dave


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Re: Can't get X to Run, Please help!

1998-06-18 Thread Jens Ritter
David Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I recently installed DEBIAN Linux and downloaded some packages.
 My problem is when I try to start X it wont start and I get this message
 back.
 
 Fatal server error:
 No valid modes found.
 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
 giving up.
 xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver
 xinit:  No such process (errno 3): server error.
 
 I'm running the SVGA server and ran XF86Setup as root.  I also had to
 edit
 /etc/X11/Xserver  because it originally had None for the server
 
 The contents of /etc/X11/Xserver are
  /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA
  Console
   EOF 

Check the settings of your Monitor in XF86Setup. X checks all modes it
is able to start wether it would harm your monitor. If a mode exceeds
the limits of your monitor set by XF86Setup, it discards the mode. You
may end with no valid modes. If you scroll back with Shift+Pg UP
(if it is possible), you might see why the modes are discarded.

Choose 8bpp for a starting point (you can always change that later).

HTH,

Jens
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Re: Can't get X to Run, Please help!

1998-06-18 Thread Brian Morgan
Sounds like your symbolic link for X isn't pointing to a valid server.  Try 
this:

Go to the /ur/X11R6/bin directory
type:  ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_VGA16 X

That will set your symbolic link for X to point to the VGA16 server.  Hope this
helps.

--thanks to Steve Mayer for helping me solve this problem a few days ago.  Give
credit where it's due.

Brian Morgan

David Miner wrote:

 I recently installed DEBIAN Linux and downloaded some packages.
 My problem is when I try to start X it wont start and I get this message
 back.

 Fatal server error:
 No valid modes found.
 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
 giving up.
 xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver
 xinit:  No such process (errno 3): server error.

 I'm running the VGA16 server and ran XF86Setup as root.

 The contents of /etc/X11/Xserver are
  /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_VGA16
  Console
   EOF 

 The computer is an older COMPAQ 486 DX 50 here at work that I thought I
 would test LINUX on.  I believe the video card is a Cirrus Logic with .5 meg
 video ram (it is built into the motherboard), however I selected unsupported
 VGA just to be safe.  I used 640x480 for monitor resolution standard VGA
 in the XF86Setup.  XF86Setup seems to run fine but after saving to
 XF86Config and exiting startx returns the above error.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Dave

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Re: Desperate for Optical Character Recognition

1998-06-18 Thread Jens Ritter
Don Berkich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know of any OCR software available for Linux? Preferably
 something that will plug into gimp with SANE and xscanimage - but anything 
 will
 do, console mode or X - I'm dying never to have to reboot to Windoze again! 
 :).
 

Let me add this links:
http://starship.skyport.net/crew/amk/ocr/

HTH,

Jens

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crypt problems

1998-06-18 Thread Michael Merten
Greetings, all!

A few years ago I downloaded a package called Circlemud from the net and
(after much playing around with signal handling routines) got it up and
running on a SCO system.

A bit more recently, (couple of weeks ago) I again downloaded Circlemud 
and
successfully compiled it on a bo system (with no errors whatsoever).

Now, after upgrading to hamm (read that: reinitializing the hd and
installing hamm from scratch), attempts to compile Circlemud fail with
errors about undefined references to crypt function.

My question: what has changed, and what do I need to do to work around 
it?
(I've fiddled with C a bit, but am definitely not a C programmer!)

Thanks in advance!
Mike Merten ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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Re: crypt problems

1998-06-18 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 02:39:46PM -0500, Michael Merten wrote:
   Now, after upgrading to hamm (read that: reinitializing the hd and
 installing hamm from scratch), attempts to compile Circlemud fail with
 errors about undefined references to crypt function.

crypt() isn't in libc, but is in libcrypt, so you have to pass -lcrypt to
the link line (gcc -o foo foo.o bar.o -lcrypt).

HTH,
Ray
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Re: need help

1998-06-18 Thread amos-debian-isp
On Fri, June 19 1998, Wiria A Kusuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|Hi all.., its me again asking for your help, I had my isp running, I use
|debian linux as authentication server, my problem is that I do not know how to
|limit one login session per user, I had tried to write a script to do that job

It's pretty easy - basically you should install the latest
radiusd-cistron which lets you specify a per-user somultaneous-use
limit with something like the following:

# Let users login only once simultenously
DEFAULT Simultaneous-Use = 1,
Fall-Through = 1

# I let myself login up to 10 times
amosSimultaneous-Use = 10,
Fall-Through = 1

That's it.

Radiusd-cistron is maintained by Miquel van Smoorenburg, who's also a
Debian maintainer (among many other things...:), so you can build a
debian package stright from the upstream source.

Cheers,

--Amos

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smarthosts and sendmail or whatever

1998-06-18 Thread Brian Morgan
Yes, I can resolve outside names (pinging and netscaping).  I'm not
familiar with a smarthost.  Does that have to do with SMTP or sendmail?
Isn't there some
other sort of SMTP services I need to be running? (read transcript
below)

Brian Morgan

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can you resolve names outside greenville.edu (try pinging one or
netscaping to one like www.debian.org or sunsite.unc.edu)?

are you using a smarthost?
 --Will Lowe

   I can now send and receive mail on my Debian box, but only to
addresses
   within our local domain (greenville.edu).  It doesn't seem to be
sending
   stuff off-site.  Is there a sendmail or SMTP type package that I
need to
   install to get this going right?


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a few more questions

1998-06-18 Thread Mark Panzer
Could you help me with the following:

1. how can I, using Linux and X11 read e-mail from other people who send it
to me via my ISP (uses POP)

2. What is a good soundcard which is  $40-$50 that works well in Linux and
Win95?

3. Does Netscape 4 install correctly under Hamm? I would like to try to
install the .deb file containing this program but I know that it is an
installer, and when I had BO it complained about not being in some temp
dir.  What if any, is the special config for this?

Thanks 

Mark Panzer  


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Re: a few more questions

1998-06-18 Thread Shaleh
The netscape is an installer, yes.  What you do is download the 4.05
tar.gz from Netscape and put it in /tmp (owned by root).  Then you
install the installer package and it will set up Netscape.  I use
Netscape for my e-mail and have no problems with it.  I get about
400-600 e-mails a day.  As to a soundcard, I have always liked
SoundBlaster and the used ones w/ jumpers work good and are cheap.  The
plug-n-play ones are also rather easy to config and work fine.  I have
one of each (in two different systems).


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fvwm2: seems to be reading some hook files twice?

1998-06-18 Thread Branden Robinson
Package: fvwm2
Version: 2.0.46-BETA-3
Severity: normal

After a recent upgrade of fvwm2, the window manager seems to be processing
at least some of my $HOME/.fvwm2/*.hook files twice.  Used to be, the
attached main-menu-pre.hook file did the expected thing.  Now, the menus
I custom-made get doubled up (see the attached X window dumps in PNG format).

I am cc'ing this message to debian-user in case I have done something dumb.

Also, the BTS's primitive brain cannot comprehend MIME, so this message
will have to be manually assigned to the fvwm2 package.

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#
# Configuration file for fvwm2
# by Lars Wirzenius
# @(#):$Id$
#
# This file can be used both as the system.fvwmrc and the per-user ~/.fvwm2rc.
# It uses certain `hooks' (files stored in /etc/X11/fvwm2 or ~/.fvwm2) to allow 
# the system administrator and user to modify menus, colors, and so on without 
# having to change this file.
#
# The defaults that this file sets up follow my own taste.  They attempt to set
# up a nice, easy, comfortable environment for the ordinary user.  However, 
# using the hooks, it should be possible to change anything.
#
# Please read /usr/doc/fvwm2/README.sysrc for more information.
#
# Hopefully, you will never have to modify this file.
#

#
# Section: pre.hook
#
# Use pre.hook for things that need to be done before anything else.
# For example, a PixmapPath might be defined here.
#

Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/pre.hook
Read .fvwm2/pre.hook


#
# Section: Various global settings
#
# These settings are personal.  If you need to modify them, do so in post.hook.
#
#
# DeskTopSize sets the size of the desktop in units of physical screen
# `pages'.  I prefer to use a single desktop with multiple pages,
# but many people like having multiple desktops.  I thinks its confusing.
#

DeskTopSize 3x3

#
# I don't like to be able to move between pages or desks simply by 
# moving the mouse against the screen border.  I find it very 
# confusing.  The following command disables it.
#

EdgeScroll 0 0

#
# When moving a window against the edge of the screen, it is
# nice to have a small resistance before the window is moved outside
# the screen.  This makes it easier to line windows against the
# edges.
#

EdgeResistance 0 100


#
# Section: Styles, colors, fonts, and related things
#
# This section defines the looks, behavior, and other attributes of windows.
# These are also quite personal.  Modify them in post.hook.
#
#
# The following sets window colors.  This is highly personal,
# of course.
#

# Put the defaults in a separate decor so decor users can ignore them
DestroyDecor default-decor
AddToDecor default-decor
+ HilightColor white steelblue
+ WindowFont -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12-*

#
# The following sets the window decorations: the window title, borders,
# and the handles in the corners.
#

+ ButtonStyle Reset
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Style default-style UseDecor default-decor, Color black/darkgrey
Style * UseStyle default-style

Style * BorderWidth 6
Style * HandleWidth 6
Style * MWMBorder
Style * MWMDecor
Style * DecorateTransient
Style * SmartPlacement
Style * RandomPlacement
Style * IconBox 0 0 50 -1

Style Fvwm* NoTitle
Style Fvwm* WindowListSkip
Style Fvwm* CirculateSkip

Style FvwmButtons Sticky
Style FvwmIconMan Sticky
Style FvwmPager   Sticky, StaysOnTop, Handles, HandleWidth 5

Style FvwmIdent Title
Style FvwmIdent WindowListHit
Style FvwmIdent CirculateHit


# Add icons to some common programs
Style emacs   Icon gnu-animal.xpm
Style xterm   Icon xterm-linux.xpm
Style ghostview  Icon gv.xpm
Style Gnuplot Icon graphs.xpm
Style xcalc   Icon xcalc.xpm
Style xbiff   Icon mail1.xpm
Style xmanIcon xman.xpm
Style xmagIcon mag_glass.xpm
Style Mosaic Icon Mosaic.xpm
Style xpaint Icon xpaint.xpm
Style Manual Page Icon xman.xpm
Style xedit  Icon textedit.xpm
Style *   Icon default.xbm


#
# Section: Init and restart functions
#
# This section defines the functions InitFunction and RestartFunction.
# InitFunction is executed automatically when fvwm first starts.
# RestartFunction is executed automatically when fvwm restarts itself.
# They share a common hook, init-restart.hook, and two specific hooks,
# init.hook and restart.hook.
#
# init-restart.hook should be used for 

RE: crypt problems

1998-06-18 Thread Michael Merten

Ray,

Thanks for the information!  I added a line in the Makefile for 'libs
= -lcrypt' and everything compiled without error.  A rather simple solution
for a problem that was driving a simpleton (me) up the wall ;)

Mike Merten


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xfce segfaults

1998-06-18 Thread Micha Feigin
I down lowded the binary for the xfce toolbar.
I ran the xfce_setup, and then when i tried to run
xfce it segfaulted (no other error message).
I'm using Hamm (dip freeze or whatever)
If anyone has sugestions


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